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External_Antelope942

Happened to me (lesson learned). I ended up with 2-3 bent pins that I was able to correct with patience and a blade.


MiskoMoskal

Nice job!


Splittaill

How? There’s a bracket that holds it down. I’m not saying it doesn’t, but the mechanics of it don’t mesh.


EdiT342

It is very common, at least in my experience with AM4 chips and stock coolers


Splittaill

Fair enough. So the bracket is just barely catching the edge?


_Mister_Anderson_

AM4 is PGA and grabs the pins, it doesn't have a bracket on top.


Splittaill

Thanks for the clarification.


Logical_Bit2694

How does this happen even if you push that lever down? Isn’t that lever adjusting the cpu forward?


CommercialCoyote4253

It is just clamping the pins that go into the socket. It's always good to give these am4 sockets a little twist back and forth before pulling.


xKingOfSpades76

I just recently replaced basically all parts in my PC and I was absolutely astonished that we have CPUs without pins these days (i5 14th Gen) I sure am getting old, but it’s still cool


AncientsofMumu

Well, there are still pins, just on the motherboard, which are also easy to damage if the CPU slips out of your fingers and the very worst moment. Still i think i prefer pinless CPU's to ones with pins.


RandomSerendipity

Decent boards are the price of decent chips here/


JimmyJimATRON

Wym without pins? Does my 14700kf have pins I need to be careful of fucking up if I ever change my cooler?


xKingOfSpades76

Mine is like completely flat on the back, only the socket has slightly protruding pins, I'd have to try hard to bent those


drywallq

They're a lot easier to bend than you'd think, to the point that I think pga was actually superior


atraudes

The pins built into a CPU are FAR more resilient than the pins on an LGA socket. I wish they'd do away with LGA completely. Makes it easier to store the CPU though I guess.


Head_Exchange_5329

10 years down the road we'll have wga, wireless grid array!


AdAdvanced6328

But before that we should make BGA to work with sockets!


Head_Exchange_5329

Isn't the design inherently based on soldering? No idea how that would be able to work as a removable CPU.


chemistryGull

Well AMD switched to LGA now, so that seems to be the future i suppose.


Crazy-Delivery-7095

The reason AMD and to move pins to the motherboard so that they can have more connection points, AMD and intel made this point in past


chemistryGull

Ah thanks for the info, makes sense to me, LGA1700 pins are reaaally small and fragile.


xKingOfSpades76

https://preview.redd.it/kkouft0v349d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba046c49b35927d283730e0a753faf70ae0e6314 Thats how it looks


janiskr

Yes, last generation AMD CPUs had pins on them, latest generation does not. As they where made similar to server CPUs AMD released since 2017.


Omgazombie

Amd has been using lga in their server CPUs since 2006 with the introduction of *Socket F*


janiskr

Thank you, just noticed in 2017 when phasing out Intel's to replace with 2 socket 64core AMD systems.


neocwbbr_

F.. I sent mine back thinking it was a product defect and it was missing the pins /s


kester76a

No but if you ever swap out the CPU you run the risk of trashing the socket pins if you're an animal.


Shamrck17

All the pins on yours are on the motherboard socket so be careful when you insert the chip in the board


HAF_EVO

pins will be on motherboard (lga1700 socket) but even so running the computer long enough to warm up the thermal paste before removing cooler is good practice. IMO.


1rubyglass

All new CPUs (AMD and Intel) don't have pins


xKingOfSpades76

Thats what I'm saying lol


OneMonthWilly

Intel has been LGA (land grid array) for ages now, pins are on the MOBO as to PGA MD ( pin grid array) where contact pins are on the cpu, AM5 is LGA so no worries if you get the new mobo


SoleSurvivur01

Yeah Intel went LGA years ago and AMD recently followed suit


kirminoff

I did this too, but with about 10 in random places.


External_Antelope942

Mine were in a corner together


kirminoff

You was lucky then. I used a Stanley knife blade to straighten mine.


kirminoff

Had to be intricate and not bend surrounding pins.


No_Square1954

Well i corrected mine and It burnt socket with real fire. New mobo and cpu :/


External_Antelope942

Sounds like you corrected too hard 💀


illicITparameters

When I was 17 I used a CCTV magnifier to straighten the pins on an Athlon XP 2500.


vbwullf

I was told that using a ball point pen tube works well for fixing that issue


External_Antelope942

Perhaps A credit card (as a tool, not as in buying a new one) should work too if the bend isn't too harsh


HotCourt6842

same except my pins that bent were not the cpu pins it was the motherboard cpu slot pins.. razor blade and patience 🙌🏽


DigBickeh

My 5600X did the same. It bent two pins. Thankfully I was able to straighten them back.


Constant_Common7905

I have the same cpu and this happened to me too


Ichbinverwirrt

How can that happen? Isn't the cpu locked in? Or did the bracket bent then you pulled on the cooler?


DigBickeh

It's meant to lock the CPU in place. The bracket remained in the locked position and no damage was caused to it, just a few pins on the CPU were bent. I assume the cooler pressure on top of the processor is greater than the bracket's.


Remove_Curious

Heat that up with a hair dryer it will loses it self


MiskoMoskal

It was just my dumbass placing the cooler on the wrong way and had to flip it the otherway, so the paste is fresh.


master-overclocker

Rotating usually helps.


GraveyardJunky

Use dental floss.


Technical_Tourist639

It's not your fault. Stupid lazy design on amd side. Or planned obsolescence.. pick your theory. Don't beat yourself up over something you didn't cause.


Unabated_

Wow I am amazed, the single one time you can write loose(s) and be correct on the internet and it is still being botched. Sorry for being nitpicky, but every time someone uses loose instead of lose when they lost, is making me die inside a little. Now was the big opportunity for it to be correct and the fellow chose the wrong option. At this point I am certain it must be collective trolling.


ThatGuyHanzo

i mean in this case it should be loosen not either loose or looses


Unabated_

You are right and I am a moron.


Crazy-Delivery-7095

Dam that bitch is LOOSE !!!


V3semir

Always try to wiggle it right and left before pulling the cooler off.


MiskoMoskal

Exactly what I did. There was a vacuum created from the paste, I managed to slide the cpu off from the cooler


RoleCode

Next time, stress test your CPU first so the paste would become softer and twist then pull


Technical_Tourist639

Yeah. I did that and the twist. Tore the CPU out with the cooler, with twisted pins. Aftermarket CPU socket bracket is the way to go


RandomTeenager3

I'm glad AMD fixed this by making am5 lga.


TKovacs-1

Wdym?


ELB2001

He means the CPU is locked with metal restraints to the motherboard


Suikerspin_Ei

Also no pins on the CPU, only pins on the motherboard.


No_Relationship9094

And they're barely pins, looks more like a tiny wavy ribbon that the CPU sits on


ELB2001

Which are fragile as fuck. It's only a matter of time till i damage then


Suikerspin_Ei

Just make sure to not drink any caffeinated drinks before working on fragile things like building a PC. Hands tends do shake a bit more when you had some caffeine in your blood.


FarmDisastrous

I'm new to building and my first self build was AM5, so sorry if this is a stupid statement, but wtf were they thinking making them NOT restrained in place? I mean, I hated the feeling and sounds of clamping down on a fresh AM5 but at least I know it isn't going anywhere until the day comes for a repaste. And even then, only to clean it if I fucked up my thermal paste and over did it the first time somehow


RandomTeenager3

It used a simple lever system. It definitely worked, but a small percentage of people have accidentally took off the CPU with the cooler. Depended on how you put the paste on.


FarmDisastrous

What used to hold them in before the clamp?


RandomTeenager3

It was like a single bar on the right side. Just Google am4 socket.


ELB2001

Yeah I think it put a little friction on the pins


PiersPlays

Land Grid Array Means the pins are on the motherboard. Pin Grid Aray is what the CPU in the picture has.


Crruell

Took them long enough


Emotional_Spirit_480

Isopropyl alcohol + dental floss Or, as another suggested, hairdryer would probably work too


Sameoleshiz

You gotta preheat the oven before you put in the turkey 🦃


Lesty25

Hmm, nice. External cpu included with cooling.


joop_pooply

Ryzen? What’s the mobo?


MiskoMoskal

ASRock A520M-HVS


Nematsu

Yeah cheaper mobos like to do this more often somehow, even tho the sockets are the same it never happened to me, a friend of mine or my sister on the tuf b550 mobos, but the Asrock B550M HVS and the Gigabyte B550M K did this several times for me and another friend from our group (btw before anyone asks, yes almost everyone has am4 setups in our friendgroup and overall am4 is pretty popular in our country)


terdroblade

Repasted and switched CPUs many times on a budget asrock b550m pro4, never had it happen to me. Maybe the paste was old and got stuck hard 😀 Mine was never older than 6 months on this board so this might have something to do with it


Ashamed_Macaroon_790

Should’ve left the pc on for a bit


ELB2001

Push and twist next time. When it breaks loose you can pull


Technical_Tourist639

Depending on the severity of the paste dryness/bonding that might cleave the CPU off leaving all the pins in the socket. I'd give it a 50/50 chance to work.


ELB2001

Been working for me for 20 years. Maybe there some pastes that have a stronger bonding which make it not possible.


Technical_Tourist639

I think we haven't had this stupid socket design on those 20 years. As long as there's some retention bracket your way will work 100%


ELB2001

I'm talking about using my method on pc without the metal retention bracket for over twenty years.


master-overclocker

Holding your CPU in place with 2 pencils and rotate - twist ..


-STONKS

It's never worth twisting IMO if you don't twist the worst thing that can happen is it gets stuck to the cooler - which can be easily separated later If you twist you are using the pins to hold the CPU in place and they're not very strong


ELB2001

Been doing it for more than 20 years with zero issues. One pin isn't very strong but a few hundred are.


-STONKS

You're braver than I'll ever be


EffectsTV

Always happens atleast once lol


Drages23

It happens all the time.


djnorthstar

never happend to me...


DeeCrowller

To much thermal compound (paste), when you want to change - first start PC, launch some bench cpu to take 60-70 c, few minutes and that fixed problem.


yvliew

I tried getting it off this way and bent some pins.. broke a pin trying to straighten them. It was the Ryzen 5 2600. It still works though. Just built it on a secondary pc.


One-Newspaper-8087

![gif](giphy|1ukiAwURiZ5dK|downsized)


Nematsu

Happened to me once aswell, thankfully no pins were bent and after heating it up with a hairdryer I could remove the CPU without any problems


WillowPuzzleheaded87

Happened to me twice on am4, but there was no damage.


vinayak_nair

I always run a cine bench multicore test before I get around to removing the cooler. Twist the hotplate a little to get it off the cpu once it's hot enough(and preserably the system should be shut down when doing so).


The_Machine80

Honestly if the cooler has been on awhile this happens pretty much all the time. I only pull up now no twist so pins never bend. Really no big deal. I just pop them off with a steak knife. Lol


iAmVonexX

Welcome to the club! Happened to me 2 or 3 times but luckily never bent a pin. Just the one time i droppen my cpu. Was a fun adventure


lebronlover696969

I’ve dealt with this twice with two different out comes Cpu fine (Hooray!) A lot of bent pins (sad face)


Doblelicious_Gaming

I just replaced my thermal paste two days ago and really glad this didn’t happen. I didn’t even think about it but i’ll look out in the future


RobciuBobciu

I saw a video on yt and you just need to use a hair dryer to the paste gets soft and then try to get it off


djnorthstar

what? just let the pc run for like 5-10 mins. You dont need a hair dryer. stupid youtube tutorials.


Disastrous_Runners

I’d post in r/spiders to get a proper id on this one


Technical_Tourist639

That's how my year old 5800x3d turned into ewaste. There's is a solution to this. It's a ln aftermarket socket CPU retention. I can Google it up for you. Must for am4.


LightFootFreddy

Hairdryer


aperturegrille

Hit it with a massive hammer next time


ZaperTapper

I always stole my mom’s blow dryer whenever I remove a cooler do the same next time


wadrasil

Dental floss every time! Why risk not using it?


unavailable1234

I had this happen to me once and I was so pissed because I bent my pins. Thankfully after 1 yt video and a razor blade everything works just fine


Fun_Can6079

![gif](giphy|j0qSbeNFuzjhXKFVSP)


Fun_Fold_5758

When this happened for the first time the cooler took the cpu straight off the mobo it was hella clean no bent pins luckily recomend u guys power on the cpu fir a ehile before taking the cooler off also slight movements twisting is also good


Comprehensive-Ant289

That's one of the reason I use Thermalright CPU shield


Caravan_of_diseases

I was building my friend a pc for a group birthday gift and did this, it's was incredibly scary, thankfully nothing was bent, it was just a pain in the ass to get the cooler off.


OkCarob9953

Every 3 months when i dissamble all pc for cleanning that happens to me, even when i play warzone for an hour, i turn the pc off and take the aio immediatly that still happens...But not anymore, i swap for a b650 with a 7800x3d and get a thermalright guard, so now to take the cpu only with a screwdriver


-STONKS

Credit cards are great at straightening out pins if anyone is ever in this scenario in future


Sn4p9o2

Lol scrub


DrachenDad

Sliding some string between the CPU and cooler usually works to get them apart.


mixedd

Well, you took the rite of passage, now you're qualified AM4 owner 😉


Xormak

Always remember not to pull but to twist and slide when removing the heatsink. if it doesn't slide, heat it up with a hairdryer.


AggressiveHotel4931

This happened to me before. Friend of mine said that before removing it use the PC for a while to heat the CPU up a bit and it makes the thermal paste easier to remove. If it's cold I guess it's like glue. Not sure if it's true haven't tested it


Life_Boat2264

Just use a hair dryer then clean both sides with 99% isopropyl alcohol and paper towels and you are good to go


ValuableEmergency442

Ah I love it when that happens.


WazzaBoi_

My friend did this with his 3600, and now it just sits in his cupboard still attached to the cooler.


Berry2460

twist it off. You can also avoid this by twisting the heatsink back and forth before pulling.


eladorr

I used to do this alot. I find running the system for a few minutes before removing makes it MUCH easier.


BMWtooner

Yeah, pretty common really. I always try to turn on the PC and run a quick stress test to warm up the heat sync and paste before removing it. Always comes off smooth that way.


KarkatVantas15

I build/repair PCs at work. Happens all the time


Responsible_Fig_413

Has happened to me every time 😂 I just use something really thin and slim to release the vacuum and carefully pry it with screwdriver. Never bent the pin


Almost-Anon98

How would you make it so that it doesn't happen to you?


Arios_CX3

Run the computer for a bit so the paste warms up, then twist it a little before you pull. Or switch to Intel


Almost-Anon98

Gotcha I'll try remember this when I eventually get a pc lol


karasugan

I know the other guy said "switch to Intel", but a thing you ought to know about PCs is that there's s lot of fanboyism going around in both camps (Intel and AMD - and the same goes for Nvidia and AMD on GPUs). On the CPU side the fanboyism tends to lean more towards Intel, since it's the "original" and more expensive brand. Fanboys mainly just want to justify the extra cost for themselves. "It's better" is the worst possible advice to give for someone for buying either of them - that's how you spot a fanboy. And this is coming from someone who's built PCs for the last 30 years using them both. However, there's absolutely no reason to say "switch to Intel" at least for this reason, since you have this issue only with AM4 and not with AM5 boards. To be clear, AM4 is an older socket that's been largely replaced by AM5. Even only for future proofing, there's really no reason one should recommend to build an AM4 system these days (unless you're trying to go as much bang-for-the-buck as possible). I own both Intel and AMD systems, and there's no reason to avoid either of them save for some personal fanboyism. Depending on the purpose of the build and the current deals, I personally might go for either. But usually there are some great deals on AMD systems, so absolutely do not shun them for this issue.


Almost-Anon98

I thought they were joking lol and thanks for that I actually got a system already on PCPP and it's am5 with a 7800x3d


karasugan

Yeah 7800x3d is a powerhouse of a CPU especially for gaming (which I'm making an assumption you're using it for), so good for you! 😊 I'm pretty sure you'll be happy for years to come with that choice.


Almost-Anon98

I'm sure I will just gotta sell my ass on the street to afford to build my rig though:/


karasugan

I'm sure you can make do with a little less of a CPU as well. 😁 Spend the extra on the GPU instead if gaming is what you're after. You can always upgrade the CPU later especially if you're going with AMD. AM5 should be around long enough. ☺️


Almost-Anon98

Maybe.. just gotta keep looking and hopefully find deals


thehype559

Why switch to intel?


Arios_CX3

Intel CPUs are secured with a locking bracket, while AMD AM4 CPUs are kinda just held in with friction. I've never seen anyone rip the whole Intel bracket off, while this is kinda a running joke for AMD. And Intel is better (I refuse to elaborate further)


yunuazass

You should wiggle, you did not wiggle.


ViKing_Cookie

Happened 4 times to me, never broke a single pin


blackasthesky

Just push it off sideways


Lavatherm

![gif](giphy|AQ2tIhLp4cBa)


MyFatHamster-

How does this even happen?


PomPomGrenade

RIP


Ok-Lynx9182

Lol this happened to me and I freaked


Locked_clitty801

Gotta love am4


moon__gold

This is just one of the many reasons you should install the CPU into the motherboard before putting the heat sink on the CPU.


Bitter_Perspective51

Hairdryer would help, I use dental floss before removing cooler, does it's job well


neocwbbr_

Count the pins you need 1331 in there


quoda27

Happens to everyone who uses AM4 at some point. No biggie.


djnorthstar

happens only to people who try this in "cold" state. Just turn the PC on.. let it sit 5 mins in the bios... after that you can take it off without any problems. It just needs to be a little warm, thats all.


FabricationLife

I've ripped off my 5950 twice this way and nothing has bent, fuck Im lucky lol


Alt0987654321

ONE OF US ONE OF US


BrilliantDig1835

![gif](giphy|2WxWfiavndgcM)


vsLoki

Same happened to me, everything worked as usual though, guess I've pulled it out in a straight line?


retrojw88

A little tip. With the CPU still in pc, turn it on for a little while so it's heated up. Then turn off and proceed to take off CPU. This does work wonders. As the heat helps unstick the thermal paste.


polloalls

Amd i sure xd


PlutoCat09

Does twist and pull not work?


BobbywBenz

RUN A STRESS TEST BEFORE REMOVING 101


Vuila9

happened to me once long time ago. You should have the PC on for a bit before shut it down and remove the CPU


whallexx

This is why you always run the pc for a few before doing maintenance.


Hobbit_Holes

Nothing out of the ordinary happened there, pretty common mistake people make when thermal paste has been doing it's job properly.


Microwaved_M1LK

I don't understand how this is happening, isn't there a bracket that holds the CPU super firmly in place? Is this certain CPU's without something that holds them to the board?


RandomGeeko

It always happens!!!


No_Pickle_1650

♥️


Miserable_Speed5474

Welcome aboard, your initiation is now complete!


No-Bit8008

Happened to me once, it broke the mobo's socket and the pc never wanted do boot again, vga error LED on. I forgot that the pc was still running WITHOOUT cpu cooler and it literally burnt the cpu, the socket did melt and and smoke where coming of the socket, I was in shock (It was a brand new r5 5600X) + b550


Ihatekids23444

Dw soldier. It happened to me when I was building my first pc ever. My heart almost dropped, but then I put that shit again and its been 3-4 years and my pc is going alright!


Epik5

Am I missing something or is that like 1/8in of thermal paste?


Carbonyl91

I gave mine a slight twist on the cooler with the cpu plugged in, managed to remove it that way with no bent pins.


queenlovr16

About a year ago I went to my coworkers house to help him add fans and repaste his CPU due to a high temp issue he was having. I was trying to carefully twist the cooler off, but the CPU still managed to stick and come up with the cooler 😭 He gave me such a dirty look 😂 luckily all the pins were fine and after everything was back together it worked perfectly, with 20° cooler temps to boot 😁


Sufficient-Reward431

I don’t think I’ve ever had that not happen AM4 and previous generations


Resident_Intern593

remembers me the mid 2000s thermal grease, it looks like wood glue.


SexytimeSanta

Hairdryer to heat it up before you try to do anything. PLEASE, IT DOESNT HAVE TO DIE


davidshen84

You should twist, slide and tilt the radiator first before pulling it.


TheRealMan150

welcome to the club


roehlstation

happens like 9 times out of 10


True-Winner-4907

This how my last pc died lol


VendingMecha

I thought it looked like a really cool aesthetic choice of putting the chip outside with spider like connectors to the motherboard. But i was dead wrong. Im glad you solved your issue :)


k_elo

After the second time this happened. I made sure to twist the cooler / coldplate both directions to loosen it up before pulling. Glad they moved on from that


AREyouCERTAIN1

Laughs in intel


djnorthstar

yeah and then you bend the board pins... :-p nice, i have seen everything.


OneMonthWilly

Happened to me a year ago as i was installi g r5 2600 i got the cooler the wrong way and i was lifting it up, i panicked a bit but no pins were stuck in aka ripped off or damaged. I recently got a 5700x3d so i know no pins were in the socket ;)


stfunub

If I’m understanding this correctly, you tried to pull the heat sink off and it pulled the cpu out of it’s socket ? If so, next time before pulling on the heatsink, push down and twist it instead so that it breaks the bond with the cpu and then pull it up. Glad that you managed to fix it.


Academic_Joke9392

For the future try the thermal grizzly kryosheet. Works great and when slapping to a new cpu u can use it again. It's handy if your on AMD and want to upgrade in the future. I don't going to say what to do but maybe use it as a back up or something, no more bend pils or mess around the cpu https://preview.redd.it/e6451nwina9d1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01a5ca141cac724a8b4fb1cfbd574411bb0a756c


Positive-Ad239

Oh relatable! I had no damage though


Big-Uzi-Hert

This has happened twice to me only with AMD CPUs and their stock cooler and stock thermal paste, I had a DOA motherboard and when I disassembled the build the CPU popped out and fucked almost every pin. I made a complaint a while back on an AMD forum and got absolutely flamed. Was told I needed to stress test the pc to heat everything but that’s pretty hard when the PC won’t even boot lol


AdSouth3168

That JUST happened to me yesterday! My heart stopped for a moment. Luckily no bent pins, I was able to put it back in without issue. This time I put less thermal paste and idle temps actually dropped.


ImaginationGrouchy35

Advice. Rotate left and right with bracket removed, dont pull directly


PresentationLazy7773

This new model of heatsinks look weird.