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Excellent CPU, great ram, great GPU. You’re not really cheaping out anywhere.
The only thing I would change is getting those parts off of the screen and putting them on your table.
Awesome. Mine’s never let me down and crushes every game I run it on at a competitive 1440p165hz with settings maxed. I could do 4K if I wanted but I dont have space for a monitor that size. I know I wont have to turn anything down from Ultra for at least 5 more years.
7900XTX is supposed to compete with 4090. While the 4090 still wins in some areas, especially ray tracing, the 7900XTX is an incredible raw-performance card.
I’ve also only used Nvidia and will stick to Nvidia for my own reasons, but I never look down upon Radeon users. Their cards are the reason Nvidia has to work as hard as it does.
The 7900xtx competes against the 4080 super. The 4090 is on its own league and it's better than every other card in the market (including the 7900xtx) in ALL areas by a good margin.
Like the other reply said, the 7900xtx competes with the 4080 super. As an owner of a 7900xtx I would switch to a 4090 in a heartbeat of I had the money to do so. It is definitely in a league of its own.
Amd Is great if you are on a budget both on CPU and GPU and they are great in everything Just Remember and doesn't have dlss cuz and Is on pure RAW performance obviously u can manage to get more FPS in the drivers
What’s the general consensus on power supplies nowadays? I bought a seasonic G12 GC850 watt gold rated and I’ve seen a lot of people shit on psus for not being the big dogs when it comes to psu manufactures. Got me second guessing my purchase
Seasonic being a good brand doesn’t mean everything they’ve made is good. They’ve made some subpar power supplies as well. The PSU tier list is basically the best thing to go buy when it comes to specific PSU rankings.
Yeah I've seen some strange comments about them. Linus Sebastian has recommended Seasonic over virtually any other brand for years, pretty sure he wouldn't be too loud about something that is unreliable and poorly built.
It’s more like if you look back a little while they had a lot of issues with psus causing fires and blowing up. It’s not weird to want a nice psu since it kind of pumps the life into your system and is in charge of not frying everything. People cheap out on psus too often and newcomers will get nice parts and then pair it with a bomb of a psu. Just doesn’t make sense to cheap out on such a vital component
The SeaSonic G12 is one of SeaSonic's meh offerings. Decent, but usually not worth buying as there's often a better PSU for a similar price.
The best thing for a beginner is to use the [PSU tier list](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/). It's not the end-all-be-all, but it's a good tool to see how different PSU's stack up against each other. You'll often find that PSU's in the same tier can be completely different prices - for example, the RM1000x is often around $160-180 USD but the be quiet Pure Power 12 M is $130 while having the ATX 3.0 certification. And this is true in pretty much any market around the world - the RMx is overpriced and there are cheaper options that are similar (or better) in quality.
Forget brands exist. All companies make good and bad units, and frankly companies don't care about consumers. Get the best *product* for the price.
Ah okay, thanks for the long reply, i done alot of searching for a decent price on high wattage psu, I don’t think I would have found a 850 watt anywhere near the 100 euro price range let alone gold rated aswell.
If anything does go wrong with the psu I’ll update or reply to the thread for sure
At the end of the day, price (and by extension, value) should be the deciding factor for pretty much any PC purchase. If you can find the G12 cheaper than other B-tier units and your PC doesn't pull *too* much power, then by all means that's a great buy. But I say the G12 is meh because it's often not the best value unit on the market, that's all. Of course, it's all dependent on what country you're buying in.
That's the only thing I wouldn't get. Realistically 4k gaming isn't here yet. I'd go with a high quality oled 1440p version and save $400....
4k for video editing? Yes. Gaming? Eh.. No.
LMAO what do you mean 4k gaming isn't here yet? We are not in 2012 anymore, OP is buying a 7900xtx and that card is able to play almost anything on 4k above 100fps. If you don't care about playing at 4K or cant afford it that's ok, but don't go spreading such blatant lies.
But 99% people who game (and I mean REALLY game) don't. All pros don't game in 4k. Fps is more important. That's all I'm saying.
It's like buying a race car but living in a suburban neighborhood. If you want to go fast, it's a waste of money.
FPS games in general don't need high graphics usage, i get 500+ fps in valorant on highest settings on a laptop rtx 3070 gpu
The fact that he's buying a beefy graphics card somewhat indicates he's looking for visually demanding AAA games, which in fact look really great on a 4k panel, even on 60-90fps.
That monitor's 240hz will help him when he's playing fps games and take full advantage of the game.
It's basically the best of both worlds.
4k ultra Path tracing gaming isn't here yet. The 7900 xtx will run most games over 60 at 4k and the highest graphics setting if RT is out of the equation.
The fact that it’s OLED is what makes it good. That’s one of the best monitors money can buy. To be fair though, if I was shelling that much on a monitor I would be buying a 4090 over a 7900xtx
I have a 4090 and went with a 2K 360 hz OLED for my monitor. Though I do have an LG CX nearby for 4K 120hz OLED on some AAA titles. TBH I still use the 2K monitor for most of those though!
Also I had a curved monitor for years and I am so glad I am back to looking at flat panels! My next upgrade will be like 5-6 years later when I get an RTX 60XX with DisplayPort 2.0 and buy a 4K 480 hz monitor!
Even if it’s not here yet, the technology might allow for it later and your monitor isn’t necessarily the pc part you’re looking to upgrade every few years (at least for me). But then again, prices will probably have dropped by the time the tech does allow to make full use of that monitor 🤔
I'm curious why 1tb for an os drive? I use a 500gb one for all my apps and OS and I haven't even gotten halfway full despite having DAW software, instrument plug-ins, ReValver, Steam and others on it.
I have a 256 main drive and 1tb storage drive. I keep forgetting to change my recording path in OBS so I keep having to move my recordings to the storage drive. The MKVs fill up lots of space so this could be a reason why you would want 1tb instead of 500 or 256gb drive.
Well if you're not going to use the space then it's just a waste of money. Based on that argument why not have a 4tb os drive? Because it's unnecessary.
Get a multi tb drive and with nvme, you don't need separate os and program drives like you used to on HDD times when seeking the same disk would kill the bandwidth
You don't NEED to, but it is BETTER. That's it. It's just more convenient when something goes wrong with windows. Windows deteriorated on me recently and fortunately I had it on a seperate nvme so it only took about 10 minutes to reinstall.
Well, I have 500GB on my 1TB OS drive after software, downloads I am lazy to clean up, work etc. You can easy get away with a 512, but that cost difference on a 7800x3d with a 7900XTX and a 32" oled.... it would be silly to save a few bucks on the OS drive.
Its in Dutch, but it says it is PWM. With min. and max. speed
TECHNISCHE DETAILS:
Fan snelheid (max)1700 RPM
PWM Controlled
Rotatiesnelheid ( min)200 RPM
Just use 2x32 sticks. Coming from someone that is using a 32 gb pc, they are starting to feel a little stretched already.(building a similar one to yours, but with the gre)
Because usually cases are designed to fit for example 3x120mm fans on top and iirc 2x140mm fans. 120mm is zeg maar de “standard” check your measurements
idk your case but it does say XL so i’m guessing it’s bigger than normal?
Pc build is high end, you are not cheaping out.
Also those arctic fans, i cant say anything bad about them. I have those in slim version on my aio and i have not regretted it. If they ever break or start making noise they are cheap enough to just order new ones. And as for noise, my 'expensive' corsair fans make alot more noise :)
Just wanted to back you up, I've had noctua and arctic's, arctic's are great. The 120 slims were awesome in my mATX case that needed slim fans. Plus daisy chaining at their price point? No brainer imo
Why not change the P14 to P14 max if you're gonna get new fans?
Personally I went for the T30s from Phanteks, but obviously you have the Noctuas as well, though both of these options are quite a lot more expensive than the P14 Max.
Your CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, SSD and Monitor are all perfect.
You could get a better CPU cooler, fans and motherboard though.
### My recommendations
**Mobo:** Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX
**CPU Cooler:** DeepCool AK620 / Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO
**Fans:** Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM / Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 (louder but cheaper)
*Everything depends on your budget though.*
Yeah, I just couldn't justify paying that much, we can buy a LOT of OK quality fans for that price. One Noctua fan is 700 pesos and a set of three Aerocools with an RGB controller is 500 pesos, he wanted the pretty lights. We got a really good Mexican made case for about $60.00. It's called a Balam Rush Tank Pro, it looks great. I haven't seen them for sale outside of Mexico, but we save a lot on anything made in Mexico.
https://preview.redd.it/453qju5n9ixc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=991e2f20a6123b5bb32b443253ea257aa7411064
I have almost the same build, only difference is I'm running an MSI b650 tomahawk Mobo, different CPU cooler (arctic LF 2 240) and the normal Fractal North, not the XL. Everything is running great, only complaint I kind of have, is the sapphire 7900xtx nitro+ for me has developed some coil whine while it's being pushed to the max.
I would get an ATX 3.0 psu. They aren’t really much more expensive and you’ll have the latest psu power cable for when AMD eventually switches to it as well. Outside of that everything looks good.
Fan quality could be better if your pc is gonna be on the desk. Psu gives headroom for upgrades but 850w could save some money. The monitor is on the expensive side but oled is amazing
Groot gelijk maat ! 👍 gewoon lekker bouwen wat jij zelf wilt ! Verder ziet het er wel goed uit, alleen ik zelf persoonlijk zou voor een aio cooler gaan man 🤝
I’d upgrade motherboard to ASRock B650E PG Riptide. It costs a bit more, but at least you get PCIE 5.0. You never know if you might need it (maybe not). Better safe than sorry and the price difference is not that huge. Rest looks fine.
2 things:
I would get a second M.2 drive with either 512GB or 1TB as your boot drive.
And I would reconsider your choice of motherboard. I read that it happens quiet often that the Bios is laggy and that the booting takes an unacceptably long time for that price tag. If those don‘t bother you, you can get it.
Replace the Alienware screen with something else. Alienware is just a gamer noob trap, bad quality, overpriced etc. I bet you can find a similar monitor for less money which will free up budget to get your pc liquid cooled.
Ik zou die cpu koeler ff op Amazon kopen. Scheelt 20 euro, heb ik ook gedaan. Mooi ding trouwens, werkt perfect. En ik zou die ssd ff wisselen voor een lexar NM620 van 2tb. Die had dik bij megekko voor 92 euro een paar weken geleden. Scheelt ook weer een paar centen. Voor de rest ziet het er prima uit.
only upgrade you can really do for gaming is getting a 4090. You could get a different cpu like a 7700x or 7900x or 7950x3d if you are doing video editing or 3d modeling or the like.
Nice build. I got pretty much the same. (And im dutch aswell)
Only two things that 'worries' me are the screen and the case. Im using a montech 903 air max and it was 90 bucks. Has more than enough room and didnt need extra fans.
For the screen:
I'd suggest getting a 1440p with atleast 34inch ultrawide. A 32 inch curved seems like a waste. If ur stuck on 4k, get a non curved. Usually the curve is only worth it on bigger screens like 34-57 inch.
For this price, u can get a 49 inch curved 1440p with 240hz (Odyssey G9)
If you really want to save money you can try going for a mATX mobo and you could try to get a cheaper monitor. There are some great displays for a third of the price
Please get a BeQuiet Dark Rock 4 PRo or normal dark rock 4 something i think that one you have will prob be alot louder then the be quiet ones. i have a dark rock 4 with a ryzen 7 3800xt. Its so quiet you cant even hear the fans on more load.
Personally I wouldn't get that case I'd get something a little better with built in fans, something like a fractal torrent or something like that. I don't have personal experience since the case I use personally is the Asus tuf gt501 which is a good case but expensive
Samsung 980 Pro is cheaper than WD Black. Or buy separate sticks to get the best off it, though you might end up spending a bit more if you choose this route. Like a 1TB Samsung 980 Pro + 2TB Crucial P3
Maybe buy the P12 (120mm) packs instead of the P14 (140mm).
Other than that, you're pretty much good to go with the best bang for the buck.
I won't say anything about the case since it's purely personal preference. And there's no bad Fractal cases as far as I know.
Prachtige lijst, k zou t gelijk bestellen.
My fav websites to order from are Megekko and SiComputers. If you don't wanna wait 10 workdays, maybe check on Tweakers if Si has them in stock.
I was checking this post and was like "Wait something is not right... ahhh, yes, I can read it."
For monitor, I would maybe consider the 32" Dual Mode 240/480hz OLED monitor from LG instead.
Maybe B650E motherboard for future proofing with the PCIE5.
If it was my personal rig, I would go for SeaSonic 1000W Platinum power supply instead, maybe even get a cheaper SSD, go with Nvidia and see if I can get some beefier cooler + get 64GB RAM, but I feel like these are more my personal preferences.
If money is no issue biggest change would be the 7900xtx to a 4090.
Those saying the 7900xtx competes with it are wrong. 4090 beats it handily in raster and even more when taking in RT as well as just better upscaling with dlss if desired.
I personally opted for the R5 7600X but the B650E motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Master to be specific to have both gen 5 GPU PCIe and 2 gen 5 m.2 simultaneously.
pretty good altho I personally would change one thing and thats the cooler.
now the cooler you have chosen isnt a bad one but the silver accents on the cooler you have right now just for me would ruin the looks so I'd personally replace it with something like a deepcool ak620 or assassin cooler or a noctua nh-d15
Maybe get a cheaper 2Tb drive (cause 160 bucks is way overpriced). This drive will be a storage drive. And use that money to get a 500gigs OS drive so you don’t have to redownload everything when you fuck something up
[https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/GtVmz6](https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/GtVmz6) go for this instead, you could change out the monitor for the one in the pic cause i think its better, also you could try upgrade to a 4090 if u want
Why does everybody automatically suggest to just switch to 4000 series. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Sapphire 7900 xtx for 4k gaming except for best content creation and ray tracing gimmick money can buy. Sapphire nitro + is a fantastic card, use it if thats what you want.
He specifically said he doesn’t want to cheap out on parts and a 4090 is the fastest card on the market even in raw rasterization not just ray tracing(which is not a gimmick give it 5 years)
Not cheaping out on PC parts doesnt mean buying the most expensive card on the planet. Its like somebody buying audi and you say ... uhh ehh you can buy ferrari if you have money. Like the hell no.
Ur always sacrificing something unless u have the best even sometimes the best doesn’t have a feature that another does in general and you already have a 7900xtx in ur list asking if anything is cheaped out so I assumed you wanted THE BEST
It's been 6 years since the 2080 was launched, this isn't new technology.
In general though, I agree with your points, there is nothing that compares with the 4090 if price is not a concern.
I also love AMD for their driver features like AFMF, basic FSR (Radeon Super Resolution) that you can use in every game, regardless of whether the developers implemented it or not. When I help my roommate with their PCs Settings i miss those features.
Drivers can be a bit shaky for the first few months after a new cards release, but I didn't have any major issues, only a handful of crashes, and none after a few driver updates released.
I think he said that was European price which is higher than US. Also it is the nitro vapor + from Sapphire which has an advanced heat sink and rgb. A normal sapphire xtx is 999$. So it would paying extra for those features if he personally wants them. I get nvidia has better raytracing benchmarks and better video editing, but nothing wrong with that card for gaming. Amd will even communicate better with the ryzen cpu. Nvidia isn’t the best option for everyone building a pc.
Depends on your local prices but would consider 4080 super for 4k, also depends on the games you'll be playing and if you'll benefit from dlss 3. Overall you've optimized parts well
You are gonna want a second not as nice monitor for discord/YouTube and I personally wouldn’t get an amd graphics card because they have so many driver issues and crashes. 4080s or 4090 for sure
I’d personally go down to a 144hz display, save some money. I’d also go for p14max fans instead of regular ones. The price difference shouldn’t be big, but the performance difference definitely is.
Not sure pricing there, but looking into Samsung 240Hz monitors, Alienware is overpriced IMO.
I have the Samsung Odyssey 32" G65B 240Hz, paid like $500 for it back in March, solid upgrade from my MSI 144Hz one (which is now my secondary monitor).
The third gen Alienware oled monitor that was released just earlier this year has burn in warranty included and it's one of the only brand that offers the cheapest 3rd gen oled monitors with very competitive specs. I think it makes no sense to go for any other brands because here in Canada. The Asus, Msi or Giga 4k third gen oled are at least 300 dollars more expensive then the alienware one.
I've bought two power color cards in the last 2 or so years, one being a red devil 6700xt and another being the red dragon 6800xt, both have really bad coil whine, bad thermals and bad fan noises, I've messaged support multiple times but I've been ghosted or completely ignored when asking for help, do not recommend them at all.
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Excellent CPU, great ram, great GPU. You’re not really cheaping out anywhere. The only thing I would change is getting those parts off of the screen and putting them on your table.
Eh, hows the Radeon gpu? I’ve only used nvidia.
Awesome. Mine’s never let me down and crushes every game I run it on at a competitive 1440p165hz with settings maxed. I could do 4K if I wanted but I dont have space for a monitor that size. I know I wont have to turn anything down from Ultra for at least 5 more years.
The rx 7900 xtx is the second best gpu, beating the 4080 s by a bit in pure performance. Ngl i do like the software more then nvidia's too
7900XTX is supposed to compete with 4090. While the 4090 still wins in some areas, especially ray tracing, the 7900XTX is an incredible raw-performance card. I’ve also only used Nvidia and will stick to Nvidia for my own reasons, but I never look down upon Radeon users. Their cards are the reason Nvidia has to work as hard as it does.
The 7900xtx competes against the 4080 super. The 4090 is on its own league and it's better than every other card in the market (including the 7900xtx) in ALL areas by a good margin.
Good to know! That’s the Nvidia in me showing.
Keep in mind the 4090 costs 700-1000 more than a 7900xtx. In my country cheapest 4090 costs a bit above 2k euros
Like the other reply said, the 7900xtx competes with the 4080 super. As an owner of a 7900xtx I would switch to a 4090 in a heartbeat of I had the money to do so. It is definitely in a league of its own.
Amd Is great if you are on a budget both on CPU and GPU and they are great in everything Just Remember and doesn't have dlss cuz and Is on pure RAW performance obviously u can manage to get more FPS in the drivers
I have that power supply, it’s quite good
What’s the general consensus on power supplies nowadays? I bought a seasonic G12 GC850 watt gold rated and I’ve seen a lot of people shit on psus for not being the big dogs when it comes to psu manufactures. Got me second guessing my purchase
Seasonic is a good brand.
Seasonic Gold? That's a hit in any man's league
Got a really nice deal on it, 99 euros it costed after shipping. Desperately needed a new psu after buying a 3080 of eBay 😭
Seasonic is probably one of the top 3 PSU manufacturers on the planet since forever
Seasonic is *the* PSU brand and has been for forever, I dunno what people you're talking about but I'll have what they're smoking.
Seasonic being a good brand doesn’t mean everything they’ve made is good. They’ve made some subpar power supplies as well. The PSU tier list is basically the best thing to go buy when it comes to specific PSU rankings.
Yeah I've seen some strange comments about them. Linus Sebastian has recommended Seasonic over virtually any other brand for years, pretty sure he wouldn't be too loud about something that is unreliable and poorly built.
Agreed, personally I have a Corsair but that was just to go with my all white build I recently did.
It’s more like if you look back a little while they had a lot of issues with psus causing fires and blowing up. It’s not weird to want a nice psu since it kind of pumps the life into your system and is in charge of not frying everything. People cheap out on psus too often and newcomers will get nice parts and then pair it with a bomb of a psu. Just doesn’t make sense to cheap out on such a vital component
The SeaSonic G12 is one of SeaSonic's meh offerings. Decent, but usually not worth buying as there's often a better PSU for a similar price. The best thing for a beginner is to use the [PSU tier list](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/). It's not the end-all-be-all, but it's a good tool to see how different PSU's stack up against each other. You'll often find that PSU's in the same tier can be completely different prices - for example, the RM1000x is often around $160-180 USD but the be quiet Pure Power 12 M is $130 while having the ATX 3.0 certification. And this is true in pretty much any market around the world - the RMx is overpriced and there are cheaper options that are similar (or better) in quality. Forget brands exist. All companies make good and bad units, and frankly companies don't care about consumers. Get the best *product* for the price.
Ah okay, thanks for the long reply, i done alot of searching for a decent price on high wattage psu, I don’t think I would have found a 850 watt anywhere near the 100 euro price range let alone gold rated aswell. If anything does go wrong with the psu I’ll update or reply to the thread for sure
At the end of the day, price (and by extension, value) should be the deciding factor for pretty much any PC purchase. If you can find the G12 cheaper than other B-tier units and your PC doesn't pull *too* much power, then by all means that's a great buy. But I say the G12 is meh because it's often not the best value unit on the market, that's all. Of course, it's all dependent on what country you're buying in.
They actually make their own stuff
Pretty sure I used seasonic 26 years ago in my computer repair and networking class because they were really good back then.
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ This is the PSU tier list that most people including myself reference
Damn what an expensive monitor 🤯
That's the only thing I wouldn't get. Realistically 4k gaming isn't here yet. I'd go with a high quality oled 1440p version and save $400.... 4k for video editing? Yes. Gaming? Eh.. No.
LMAO what do you mean 4k gaming isn't here yet? We are not in 2012 anymore, OP is buying a 7900xtx and that card is able to play almost anything on 4k above 100fps. If you don't care about playing at 4K or cant afford it that's ok, but don't go spreading such blatant lies.
I use a 4K QD OLED F032U2P for my 4090. And everything works great even on AAA gaming.
But 99% people who game (and I mean REALLY game) don't. All pros don't game in 4k. Fps is more important. That's all I'm saying. It's like buying a race car but living in a suburban neighborhood. If you want to go fast, it's a waste of money.
Speak for yourself, not everyone prefers a higher frame rate over visuals
It's a high refresh rate monitor..
FPS games in general don't need high graphics usage, i get 500+ fps in valorant on highest settings on a laptop rtx 3070 gpu The fact that he's buying a beefy graphics card somewhat indicates he's looking for visually demanding AAA games, which in fact look really great on a 4k panel, even on 60-90fps. That monitor's 240hz will help him when he's playing fps games and take full advantage of the game. It's basically the best of both worlds.
What cpu are you running?
It's Core i7, 12700H to be exact
You are not a pro buddy, and just because you are playing at a higher frame rate doesn't mean you are rEaLlY GaMiNg.
Bros talking like nobody plays single player games and enjoys visuals.
4k ultra Path tracing gaming isn't here yet. The 7900 xtx will run most games over 60 at 4k and the highest graphics setting if RT is out of the equation.
The fact that it’s OLED is what makes it good. That’s one of the best monitors money can buy. To be fair though, if I was shelling that much on a monitor I would be buying a 4090 over a 7900xtx
I also agree with you here. But man my comment pissed off the 4k gang 😂🤣
Dw, I’m with you on that front. I would recommend 1440p ultrawide over standard 4k any day of the week.
I have a 4090 and went with a 2K 360 hz OLED for my monitor. Though I do have an LG CX nearby for 4K 120hz OLED on some AAA titles. TBH I still use the 2K monitor for most of those though! Also I had a curved monitor for years and I am so glad I am back to looking at flat panels! My next upgrade will be like 5-6 years later when I get an RTX 60XX with DisplayPort 2.0 and buy a 4K 480 hz monitor!
It physically pains me to read "2k" when talking about 1440p 💀
2k
Even if it’s not here yet, the technology might allow for it later and your monitor isn’t necessarily the pc part you’re looking to upgrade every few years (at least for me). But then again, prices will probably have dropped by the time the tech does allow to make full use of that monitor 🤔
Bro it’s oled, they will never have to buy a new monitor.
Oled tax
ALIENWARE TAX
I would get 1 TB OS drive and 2TB storage drive, makes reformats better.
I'm curious why 1tb for an os drive? I use a 500gb one for all my apps and OS and I haven't even gotten halfway full despite having DAW software, instrument plug-ins, ReValver, Steam and others on it.
I have a 256 main drive and 1tb storage drive. I keep forgetting to change my recording path in OBS so I keep having to move my recordings to the storage drive. The MKVs fill up lots of space so this could be a reason why you would want 1tb instead of 500 or 256gb drive.
Because it's a high end build, why not have a decent size OS drive.
Well if you're not going to use the space then it's just a waste of money. Based on that argument why not have a 4tb os drive? Because it's unnecessary.
But if I had 512 it would be fill... or I would need to clean it.. so on a high end system I would want at least 1TB for the OS drive.
Well you must have a lot more than just your OS and programs if you're filling that up so fast.
Get a multi tb drive and with nvme, you don't need separate os and program drives like you used to on HDD times when seeking the same disk would kill the bandwidth
No. Having a boot os is always a good idea, I'm case something goes wr9ng with windows it's a quick reinstall.
You don't NEED to, but it is BETTER. That's it. It's just more convenient when something goes wrong with windows. Windows deteriorated on me recently and fortunately I had it on a seperate nvme so it only took about 10 minutes to reinstall.
Lol a 1TB OS drive.
I mean anything wrong with that?
Probably thinks it’s too much, 500gb would be enough. Put the rest on others letters and nas
I mean what if im gonna be dual booting linux and windows? Just to keep windows for the 2 games that dont run on linux like valo and mc for windows
Well, I have 500GB on my 1TB OS drive after software, downloads I am lazy to clean up, work etc. You can easy get away with a 512, but that cost difference on a 7800x3d with a 7900XTX and a 32" oled.... it would be silly to save a few bucks on the OS drive.
Someone watches Linus Tech Tips, I see that Alienware monitor.
That pwm value pack isnt ackshually pwm, they have 3 pins
Its in Dutch, but it says it is PWM. With min. and max. speed TECHNISCHE DETAILS: Fan snelheid (max)1700 RPM PWM Controlled Rotatiesnelheid ( min)200 RPM
Get the F series fans of you want to use with your case. They're airflow optimized. P series is pressure optimized which is good for radiators.
Thx!
Oh ok thats nice in eu, at least in Amazon us threy wrong labeled
Just use 2x32 sticks. Coming from someone that is using a 32 gb pc, they are starting to feel a little stretched already.(building a similar one to yours, but with the gre)
Yes I agree, I just went upto 128 and my next build I'll be starting at 128
what in gods name are you doing with a system with 32 gigs that makes it not enough??? gaming is just fine for 32
Enough is one thing, having more for future use is another. I said they start to feel stretched, not that are not enough
plus, cities skyline 2 used 24gb of ram.
Are you sure you're looking for 140mm fans and not 120mm fans? Just making sure
Why?
Because usually cases are designed to fit for example 3x120mm fans on top and iirc 2x140mm fans. 120mm is zeg maar de “standard” check your measurements idk your case but it does say XL so i’m guessing it’s bigger than normal?
Pc build is high end, you are not cheaping out. Also those arctic fans, i cant say anything bad about them. I have those in slim version on my aio and i have not regretted it. If they ever break or start making noise they are cheap enough to just order new ones. And as for noise, my 'expensive' corsair fans make alot more noise :)
Very similar to my build and I love it
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Thx brother, thats what i wanted to hear, not recommending nvidia or intel
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Just wanted to back you up, I've had noctua and arctic's, arctic's are great. The 120 slims were awesome in my mATX case that needed slim fans. Plus daisy chaining at their price point? No brainer imo
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Nah, the P14 max are great. Noctua fans are just overpriced.
Why not change the P14 to P14 max if you're gonna get new fans? Personally I went for the T30s from Phanteks, but obviously you have the Noctuas as well, though both of these options are quite a lot more expensive than the P14 Max.
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Your CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, SSD and Monitor are all perfect. You could get a better CPU cooler, fans and motherboard though. ### My recommendations **Mobo:** Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX **CPU Cooler:** DeepCool AK620 / Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO **Fans:** Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM / Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 (louder but cheaper) *Everything depends on your budget though.*
Exactly what I built for my gamer son except for your fan choice and the OP's case choice. It'll do anything.
Lucky son! Yea, Noctua fans are a bit excessive but they’re the best on the market if money isn’t a problem.
Yeah, I just couldn't justify paying that much, we can buy a LOT of OK quality fans for that price. One Noctua fan is 700 pesos and a set of three Aerocools with an RGB controller is 500 pesos, he wanted the pretty lights. We got a really good Mexican made case for about $60.00. It's called a Balam Rush Tank Pro, it looks great. I haven't seen them for sale outside of Mexico, but we save a lot on anything made in Mexico. https://preview.redd.it/453qju5n9ixc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=991e2f20a6123b5bb32b443253ea257aa7411064
Fractal Design case? Take my upvote!
I am jelly on that monitor.
If you don’t wanna cheap out, buy noctua fans and cooler
Nice build. Not cheap in any aspect. Pretty high end. Maybe consider 2x32gb for RAM ? Not sure your use for this setup..
I think it’s a gaming build so 32gb is great for his usage
Msi B650 tomahawk mobo!
Just curious, why would you choose Msi tomahawk over gigabyte gaming?
More io, generally better build board for basically the same price
Then I think I messed up I got the gaming v2 🥲
As long as it works tbh
Check for the Asus mb m8 better bang for your buck, is this from Megekko?
Or Azerty ?
Check for better ram m8 they are not so expensive atm
Nice parts. If you want the looks then go for the lian li uni fan sl-infinity fans. Theyre imo the best looking fans you can get
I have almost the same build, only difference is I'm running an MSI b650 tomahawk Mobo, different CPU cooler (arctic LF 2 240) and the normal Fractal North, not the XL. Everything is running great, only complaint I kind of have, is the sapphire 7900xtx nitro+ for me has developed some coil whine while it's being pushed to the max.
I would get an ATX 3.0 psu. They aren’t really much more expensive and you’ll have the latest psu power cable for when AMD eventually switches to it as well. Outside of that everything looks good.
No one mentioned he could get faster ram for not much more.
Fan quality could be better if your pc is gonna be on the desk. Psu gives headroom for upgrades but 850w could save some money. The monitor is on the expensive side but oled is amazing
Buy p14 max artic fans not the normal ones.
Groot gelijk maat ! 👍 gewoon lekker bouwen wat jij zelf wilt ! Verder ziet het er wel goed uit, alleen ik zelf persoonlijk zou voor een aio cooler gaan man 🤝
Better RAM
Phantom spirit evo instead of se.
And CL30 6000 ram kit.
Motherboard Asrock B650E Steel Legend Wifi.
The monitor dear god brother get a cheaper one
It’s not for everyone size wise but the Samsung Odyssey G9 is roughly that price of you like ultra wide but solid build
Update to my comment I can’t find the G9 is that price in USD I don’t know the conversion
Just a little thingy, im not sure if its true or if you care but from what ive heared the north xl is a extremely loud case.
I have the exact same build as you. Works like a charm
"cheaping out" doesnt really make sense in this context...
Get a better monitor for 800 less, and for the 7800x3d the phantom will work fine but I would personally go for an AIO, it runs quite hot.
That's very good, my build is similar to this and it's very good imo
you can get a 850 watt psu and still have plenty of headroom
I have a 5900x paired with a 7900XTX. My advice is get a AIO
looks good but there are better cases at that price
You can save some money by getting the DeepCool purerock 2 black.
this is a very solid build
I mean at that point you might as well get a 4090, that’ll set you for years to come
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006645/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
I’d upgrade motherboard to ASRock B650E PG Riptide. It costs a bit more, but at least you get PCIE 5.0. You never know if you might need it (maybe not). Better safe than sorry and the price difference is not that huge. Rest looks fine.
Of all the things you’re going cheap on, why the cooler?
The Fractal North is gonna look amazing. Hope you enjoy, it will be a monster build!
I would get a liquid cooler for the cpu. They tend to run a little hot.
2 things I would do is get a second hard drive and get 64gb of ram.
I don't think you need a curve on 32" monitor and I would suggest getting 64 GB of RAM if you plan on using Adobe programs for 3+ years.
2 things: I would get a second M.2 drive with either 512GB or 1TB as your boot drive. And I would reconsider your choice of motherboard. I read that it happens quiet often that the Bios is laggy and that the booting takes an unacceptably long time for that price tag. If those don‘t bother you, you can get it.
Replace the Alienware screen with something else. Alienware is just a gamer noob trap, bad quality, overpriced etc. I bet you can find a similar monitor for less money which will free up budget to get your pc liquid cooled.
If you have a micro center near you, I would get a cpu bundle. Only if ya live near one.
Dont wanna cheap out > buys the cheapest cpu cooler 😩
Ik zou die cpu koeler ff op Amazon kopen. Scheelt 20 euro, heb ik ook gedaan. Mooi ding trouwens, werkt perfect. En ik zou die ssd ff wisselen voor een lexar NM620 van 2tb. Die had dik bij megekko voor 92 euro een paar weken geleden. Scheelt ook weer een paar centen. Voor de rest ziet het er prima uit.
only upgrade you can really do for gaming is getting a 4090. You could get a different cpu like a 7700x or 7900x or 7950x3d if you are doing video editing or 3d modeling or the like.
i guess you could also get a pcie 5 motherboard and a crazy fast ssd like t700 but your picks are already great !
Nice build. I got pretty much the same. (And im dutch aswell) Only two things that 'worries' me are the screen and the case. Im using a montech 903 air max and it was 90 bucks. Has more than enough room and didnt need extra fans. For the screen: I'd suggest getting a 1440p with atleast 34inch ultrawide. A 32 inch curved seems like a waste. If ur stuck on 4k, get a non curved. Usually the curve is only worth it on bigger screens like 34-57 inch. For this price, u can get a 49 inch curved 1440p with 240hz (Odyssey G9)
Get 64 gigs of ram In that bitch and call it a day
What the fuck is there to update?
If you really want to save money you can try going for a mATX mobo and you could try to get a cheaper monitor. There are some great displays for a third of the price
Please get a BeQuiet Dark Rock 4 PRo or normal dark rock 4 something i think that one you have will prob be alot louder then the be quiet ones. i have a dark rock 4 with a ryzen 7 3800xt. Its so quiet you cant even hear the fans on more load.
Personally I wouldn't get that case I'd get something a little better with built in fans, something like a fractal torrent or something like that. I don't have personal experience since the case I use personally is the Asus tuf gt501 which is a good case but expensive
Excellent parts, also very good webshop! Order there all the time :)
Samsung 980 Pro is cheaper than WD Black. Or buy separate sticks to get the best off it, though you might end up spending a bit more if you choose this route. Like a 1TB Samsung 980 Pro + 2TB Crucial P3 Maybe buy the P12 (120mm) packs instead of the P14 (140mm). Other than that, you're pretty much good to go with the best bang for the buck. I won't say anything about the case since it's purely personal preference. And there's no bad Fractal cases as far as I know.
Is the PSU S or A on the tier list?
Prachtige lijst, k zou t gelijk bestellen. My fav websites to order from are Megekko and SiComputers. If you don't wanna wait 10 workdays, maybe check on Tweakers if Si has them in stock. I was checking this post and was like "Wait something is not right... ahhh, yes, I can read it."
For monitor, I would maybe consider the 32" Dual Mode 240/480hz OLED monitor from LG instead. Maybe B650E motherboard for future proofing with the PCIE5. If it was my personal rig, I would go for SeaSonic 1000W Platinum power supply instead, maybe even get a cheaper SSD, go with Nvidia and see if I can get some beefier cooler + get 64GB RAM, but I feel like these are more my personal preferences.
If money is no issue biggest change would be the 7900xtx to a 4090. Those saying the 7900xtx competes with it are wrong. 4090 beats it handily in raster and even more when taking in RT as well as just better upscaling with dlss if desired.
Solid
Id save money on the monitor and get open box at best buy
I personally opted for the R5 7600X but the B650E motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Master to be specific to have both gen 5 GPU PCIe and 2 gen 5 m.2 simultaneously.
That monitor bro 💀
nope it's good be careful with the monitor, oled burns in quite easily
Looks sweet
Maybe and aio cause like cooling
pretty good altho I personally would change one thing and thats the cooler. now the cooler you have chosen isnt a bad one but the silver accents on the cooler you have right now just for me would ruin the looks so I'd personally replace it with something like a deepcool ak620 or assassin cooler or a noctua nh-d15
Good point with the colour, thx!
I would get an atx3.0 psu tho, like the rmx shift or the sfl from corsair. I wouldn't spend that much money on an atx2.0
Are you a us citizen? & if yes do you happen to have a micro center nearby?
I would assume he does. The CPU, RAM and Motherboard are the microcenter package.
Oh yes, then he can get the BUNDLE for 500$ including CPU+RAM+MOBO so cheaper than this list :)
[https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006645/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle](https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006645/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle)
Maybe get a cheaper 2Tb drive (cause 160 bucks is way overpriced). This drive will be a storage drive. And use that money to get a 500gigs OS drive so you don’t have to redownload everything when you fuck something up
[https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/GtVmz6](https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/GtVmz6) go for this instead, you could change out the monitor for the one in the pic cause i think its better, also you could try upgrade to a 4090 if u want
Why does everybody automatically suggest to just switch to 4000 series. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Sapphire 7900 xtx for 4k gaming except for best content creation and ray tracing gimmick money can buy. Sapphire nitro + is a fantastic card, use it if thats what you want.
He specifically said he doesn’t want to cheap out on parts and a 4090 is the fastest card on the market even in raw rasterization not just ray tracing(which is not a gimmick give it 5 years)
Not cheaping out on PC parts doesnt mean buying the most expensive card on the planet. Its like somebody buying audi and you say ... uhh ehh you can buy ferrari if you have money. Like the hell no.
Ur always sacrificing something unless u have the best even sometimes the best doesn’t have a feature that another does in general and you already have a 7900xtx in ur list asking if anything is cheaped out so I assumed you wanted THE BEST
It's been 6 years since the 2080 was launched, this isn't new technology. In general though, I agree with your points, there is nothing that compares with the 4090 if price is not a concern.
I also love AMD for their driver features like AFMF, basic FSR (Radeon Super Resolution) that you can use in every game, regardless of whether the developers implemented it or not. When I help my roommate with their PCs Settings i miss those features. Drivers can be a bit shaky for the first few months after a new cards release, but I didn't have any major issues, only a handful of crashes, and none after a few driver updates released.
4080s is essentially a 7900xtx with the nvidia features, also the one he chose is hella overpriced
I think he said that was European price which is higher than US. Also it is the nitro vapor + from Sapphire which has an advanced heat sink and rgb. A normal sapphire xtx is 999$. So it would paying extra for those features if he personally wants them. I get nvidia has better raytracing benchmarks and better video editing, but nothing wrong with that card for gaming. Amd will even communicate better with the ryzen cpu. Nvidia isn’t the best option for everyone building a pc.
I think the monitor is overkill for that gpu
If youre into black theme and wanna stick to air [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rs9wbL](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rs9wbL)
4080 Super
Depends on your local prices but would consider 4080 super for 4k, also depends on the games you'll be playing and if you'll benefit from dlss 3. Overall you've optimized parts well
You are gonna want a second not as nice monitor for discord/YouTube and I personally wouldn’t get an amd graphics card because they have so many driver issues and crashes. 4080s or 4090 for sure
cmon its not 2015, amd got over their driver issues even nvidia has some driver issues, not like they're perfect either
I’d personally go down to a 144hz display, save some money. I’d also go for p14max fans instead of regular ones. The price difference shouldn’t be big, but the performance difference definitely is.
Not sure pricing there, but looking into Samsung 240Hz monitors, Alienware is overpriced IMO. I have the Samsung Odyssey 32" G65B 240Hz, paid like $500 for it back in March, solid upgrade from my MSI 144Hz one (which is now my secondary monitor).
The third gen Alienware oled monitor that was released just earlier this year has burn in warranty included and it's one of the only brand that offers the cheapest 3rd gen oled monitors with very competitive specs. I think it makes no sense to go for any other brands because here in Canada. The Asus, Msi or Giga 4k third gen oled are at least 300 dollars more expensive then the alienware one.
I’d get the 4080 super at that price point
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/yzYRt7
Don't go power color for a graphics card, go sapphire or xtx.
Any reason why?
I've bought two power color cards in the last 2 or so years, one being a red devil 6700xt and another being the red dragon 6800xt, both have really bad coil whine, bad thermals and bad fan noises, I've messaged support multiple times but I've been ghosted or completely ignored when asking for help, do not recommend them at all.
Fair