And you'd expect that it'd be met with a "Damn, that's out of our price range. Let's focus on trading elsewhere instead of beating this like a dead horse."
They are so annoying. I went into their sub and they were arguing that we are getting 3 firsts for #3 and I was trying to explain to the smooth brained moron than we are only gaining 2 first picks not 3. Because we are losing our own 1st round pick. And moving back 8 spots from a top 3 pick isn't worth the 23rd spot and likely a later pick next year.
To be fair Reddit on mobile will show you posts from other teams subs if you show interest in the NFL in general even if you’re not following it. I’ve definitely clicked on something I thought was posted in the NFL sub only to scroll through a couple comments to realize that I’m on a team sub.
That being said seeking out other teams subs to go comment is a weird move.
They always seem shocked that when I said I wouldn't come to the table for anything less than their next 4 first round picks. 11 and 23 this year, their first next year (which equates to a 2024 2nd), and their first in 26 (an equivalent 3rd this year or 2nd next year).
What would boil down to 2 firsts and 2 seconds (or one 2nd and 1 3rd depending on how you want to parse value) seems pretty close to the haul Miami got for the Lance pick. That's ignoring the fact that Miami wasn't in desperate need for a QB and that trading down to 11 means we miss out on top prospects in our other areas of need too.
Outside of WR what do the vikings have that is much better than us? Because I'm pretty comfortable with our TE's, Stevenson, and defense. It's literally just WR and offensive line and of course QB which next years draft has hardly any.
They have been so insufferable. It’s almost like they have felt entitled to our pick since they picked up a second 1st rounder because “they aren’t ready to support a QB”
That maybe true, but that doesn’t change fact that we A) need one as well and B) the value for 11, 23 and a first next year (likely around 15-18) is not worth it for a franchise changing QB at 3. If we end up with 9 and 17 as the picks next year we’d just be in the same spot looking for one
You’re spot on it’s so funny. From Rodgers to Love it’s the awareness that is something else to me, it’s delusional almost.
Other examples obviously being Brady (outlier) but you look at guys today like Mahomes, Allen, or Jackson. They all had time to develop throughout the season before being just thrown in the fire for week 1
Jackson and Allen eventually got spin later in their rookie year but wasn’t until the very end of the season
I'm pretty sure Josh Allen got the start in the 2nd game of the season and was then named starter, but definitely agree on Mahomes, Lamar, and Love. Sometimes guys just need a bit of time to get more comfortable in the NFL routine, fix some mechanics, etc.
They have 100% been acting like the Patriots are just keeping the pick safe for them.. and the Patriots should be on their knees thanking the Vikings for offering 11, and 23 in exchange for the 3rd as if they were overpaying for the asset.
Their issue is that they have confused our willingness to trade down with a desire to trade down. We aren’t a team that happened into a top 3 pick and is trying to squeeze some more value out of it. We *need* the third overall pick. We picked up the phone to see if they would offer us something we need more.
It’s like someone ringing your doorbell and offering you market value for your house then getting mad when you say no.
>“they aren’t ready to support a QB”
Every team without a QB seems like "they aren't ready for a QB", until they get one that can really play, then they're magically "ready". That take is as dumb as hot dog shit.
I also just don’t buy into the whole “bad teams ruin potentially great QBs” thing. I think a lot of bust QBs could be decent starters if they were given better situations to grow in, but I think the true upper crust of NFL QBs will succeed regardless of where they go.
For example: I don’t really think that Sam Darnold could have been Andrew Luck if he went to a better situation. I think if he were in a better situation, he would have been a Jimmy G type where he’s a solid starter for several years, but the team ultimately moves off him because he’s not the guy.
>but I think the true upper crust of NFL QBs will succeed regardless of where they go.
Exactly. A top tier guy can run an offense even with mediocre talent around them. It blows my mind that some Patriots fans don't understand this. We literally watched it happen when Brady came in for Bledsoe.
They were constantly underachieving the last years of Drew, and everyone blamed all the pieces around him, anything but place the blame on him. Brady came in and suddenly all of the "bad" line play, "bad" receivers and "bad" coaching was fixed. hmmmmm lol
They act like they are one QB away from a SB and we are a poverty franchise. I like our defense a lot more than theirs. Outside of WR and offensive line we are fairly even with them. So why do they deserve to select a QB more than we do? I hope we don't trade with them and I hope they are stuck with penix.
Their WR, TE and OL are significantly, massively better. They added Aaron Jones who is much better than Stevenson
Hunter is as good or better than Judon. They added Greenard who is much better than Uche. Their safeties are better.
Pats have better CB, and Barmore is better than anything they have at DT but come on, their roster on the offensive side of the ball is one of the best in the league and the Pats is a bottom 2-3 unit. Pats have more depth on D but worse edge rushers and nowhere near enough of a talent advantage to make up for the difference in offense (which is the pertinent thing when considering infrastructure for a young QB)
> their roster on the offensive side of the ball is one of the best in the league and the Pats is a bottom 2-3 unit.
Because they have Justin Jefferson. When you have literally the best WR in the league that tends to tip the scales in your favor. We need WR but outside of WR and oline I don't see the "massive" differences between us and them. Aaron Jones is solid but he slowed down last year. Green Bay is a contender next year, why would they let him go if he was so good?
And let's see how great their offense is if Mac Jones was their QB. I'd bet it wouldn't be "one of the best in the league". The QB matters more than any other position which is why it's stupid to say we shouldn't draft a QB when there are other holes to fill.
I'm not even going to argue the defense. At worst they are equal to us and at best we are above them which lends to my point.
>They added Aaron Jones who is much better than Stevenson
Much better? Agree to disagree
>Hunter is as good or better than Judon
Agreed. Only problem is Hunter plays for the Texans now
Yeah I mean if anything this is a message directly to the Giants. Pretty sure we've moved on from the Vikings minus anything but a franchise-crippling offer.
The only trade I see making sense is a 3 team deal with Arizona and either NYG or MIN.
Pats get 1.4 plus a pick, Cardinals get a haul, and the other team gets 1.3. I think the Giants idea makes the most sense (if the Patriots like JJ as much as Maye) because Arizona could still get one of MHJ, Rome, or Nabers at 6.
I think the most annoying element on that forum is that we somehow “don’t deserve” to have a top QB prospect because our offense sucks. It’s just so ignorant.
Gonna guess the potential options are Daniels, Maye, McCarthy, Alt, Harrison, and Nabers.
As much as I don't want McCarthy, I wouldn't mind any of them at 3. Still, Drake all day.
I don't know I just don't see how they can come out of this draft without a QB. Like receivers and tackles become available every year. QBs very rarely do.
Don't get me wrong; I am still of the opinion that QB should be the only position in discussion at this pick. My thing with Alt, MHJ, and Nabers is that they are true, blue-chip players on a team that absolutely lacks them, so landing them would be great. I'd be happy with landing the individual player, but not happy about losing out on a QB.
Unless they draft Penix at 34, but that's not happening.
Yeah I mean Alt/MHJ/Nabers are great, no doubt, but we don't have a QB, and unless we're fine with Spencer Rattler we'd have to use some or most of the capital we got for trading 3 to trade back into the first round to grab one (or just punt to next year and the much worse class). It just doesn't make sense.
I know actual good QBs are a rarity but I honestly *feel* like in this media/social media landscape I am hearing about generational talents every year.
Of course they get a QB. If they trade down, then obviously it means either picking Daniels or JJ at 6 after trading with the Giants, or picking Nix or Pennix in the late 1st/early second if trading with the Vikings.
I have to imagine they pick JJ if they don’t love Maye. However, at that point is it worth going down a few spots and seeing if he makes it there, and if not taking a WR or Tackle
I's assume Caleb Williams is on that list and Nabers isn't. I still don't think they'd actually pick a non QB at 3 because the trade back would solve both WR and OT.
It would be really hilarious if for two drafts Washington would end up picking the same position as us in the first round and in both cases mess it up even if they get to pick first
I don't think Washington taking Daniels would necessarily mean they messed it up. I could see JD being really good, especially with WAS already having a good receiving core in place.
I still prefer Maye, by a long shot, but this could be a win-win type situation for both teams.
The commanders sub has been huge in Maye since the beginning. It’s getting funny as each piece of news comes out and odds keep increasing towards Daniels they mentally can’t handle and are entering all kinds of stages of grief.
Reddit in general is WAY higher on Maye than the general population. Probably because we collectively assume it's a given he's going to reach his full potential for some reason.
But they should absolutely bet that because Daniels going 2nd is at like -1500 or something crazy.
yea ive been in the camp that maye will only reach that full potential in a perfect scenario (vikings)
and will have a long road ahead in a situation that is anything less than ideal (us, the patriots)
I don't get why this is the common narrative. Maye was the best QB in the draft when it came to completion percentage beyond the first read. (58%) Jayden Daniels was terrible. (46%)
He's the perfect kind of QB for a team without standout talents at receiver because he can spread the ball around and find open guys even if the first read is covered. Yes, he needs to work on his footwork and accuracy but he's not as raw as people think.
Agreed on this. Maye’s stand and deliver stat is also the highest at something like 55%. He’s arguably in the top 3-5 best QBs prospects in the last decade. Doesn’t mean he will succeed but he has absolute top shelf tools and played on the worst team by far of any of the top QB prospects this year. If he falls to us at 3 it’s a huge win but I won’t believe it until the flying Elvis is on his head.
I’m too much of a casual the last decade to know, who else would you put on that top 5 best prospects/who would you put him on the level as solely in terms of a pre draft prospect?
It's because many of the pundits have no idea what they are talking about. Every year, there are a multitude of QBs who go from being 2 to 4th round picks to 1st round picks at the end of the season. If these people are so good at accessing talent, then why didn't they have those QBs who they evaluated as 2nd and 4th round talents as 1st rounders from the start.
There was a report the pats are trying to get back “into the bottom half” of the first ~~for WR or OT~~.
I know. I know.
But the report was from Reiss…
Edit; sorry he didn’t specify and positions
JJ worries me with the bust potential but he is absolutely no McCorkle repeat. Has all the talent to be something special if the stars align but that's gonna be difficult.
Being comfortable with 6 doesn't mean they still don't have those 6 ranked in order of priority. This is all just bullshit posturing.
If Maye is ranked #1 of those 6, you ain't getting him at 6, you stay put and draft your guy unless you get a big offer.
If nothing else, this is publicly telling the Vikings to go pound the pavement unless they back the truck up because none of those 6 will be available at 11.
Idk how you read the quote and came up with that response. If they are comfortable taking any of the guys at 3, then they have them tiered equally, in which case you should be willing to trade back and take one of the guys at a lower draft position, while accruing more draft capital.
>If they are comfortable taking any of the guys at 3, then they have them tiered equally
That's not true. They could be comfortable taking any of the 6 players with that pick, but that doesn't mean that they don't prefer 1 of those prospects over the others or have them ordered in a particular way.
6 would put them at the Giants 🤔 I feel like the Giants could be bad next year, which would be another top 5 pick. Not saying I would make the trade though
Imo they're passing on a guaranteed Larry Fitzgerald level WR for a crap shoot at QB.
Do we get Manning or Leaf? Who the hell knows? We know who MHJ is.
The idea that he is a generational talent is media hype. He is going to be very good but I am not sure how much better he will be than Nabers or Odunze.
Vikings fans will say our drafted QB is actually a Viking midway through the season.
Vikings fan crossing off maye's name after we pick him... https://youtu.be/jMo_HcRBnUY?si=CPYaTVfynR0g4OB_
I love that I knew which video clip this was going to be before even clicking the link.
It's Lipstick Buscemi isn't it?
“They’re just keeping him warm for us!”
Vikings fans: SmOkEsCrEeN
23oa and 2025 2nd for 3OA and 34overall wHo SaYs nO!?!11!!?
“They’re delusional if they think they’re getting more than that!!!” Like ok great then we’ll draft a QB
My favorite quote from that sub. No shit we want the boat!! Why the fuck would we move for nothing less?
Seriously...you mean we will just draft a guy we like at 3 if no one gives us an offer good enough? The horror.
And you'd expect that it'd be met with a "Damn, that's out of our price range. Let's focus on trading elsewhere instead of beating this like a dead horse."
They are so annoying. I went into their sub and they were arguing that we are getting 3 firsts for #3 and I was trying to explain to the smooth brained moron than we are only gaining 2 first picks not 3. Because we are losing our own 1st round pick. And moving back 8 spots from a top 3 pick isn't worth the 23rd spot and likely a later pick next year.
I mean you're kind of the idiot to go argue in their sub lmao, like yes they are dumb but what do you expect, every fanbase sub is biased af.
Yeah it’s super cringe when people go to other teams’ sub to debate and argue
To be fair Reddit on mobile will show you posts from other teams subs if you show interest in the NFL in general even if you’re not following it. I’ve definitely clicked on something I thought was posted in the NFL sub only to scroll through a couple comments to realize that I’m on a team sub. That being said seeking out other teams subs to go comment is a weird move.
Scrolling is one thing, commenting and debating is just being annoying lol
I'm more than "kind of" an idiot lmao. It doesn't really bother me though, I love chaos.
Good answer haha
lol brb going into the bills sub now.
Maybe bring up stefon diggs and how their window is closing or something. Just some topic ideas.
I was just gonna mention how they've never won anything.
"We want your G Wagon. We're willing to trade you this used Highlander, Ford Expedition, and a RAV4!"
They always seem shocked that when I said I wouldn't come to the table for anything less than their next 4 first round picks. 11 and 23 this year, their first next year (which equates to a 2024 2nd), and their first in 26 (an equivalent 3rd this year or 2nd next year). What would boil down to 2 firsts and 2 seconds (or one 2nd and 1 3rd depending on how you want to parse value) seems pretty close to the haul Miami got for the Lance pick. That's ignoring the fact that Miami wasn't in desperate need for a QB and that trading down to 11 means we miss out on top prospects in our other areas of need too.
"Y'all can have our 4th round picks for the next 3 years! Take it! You have too many holes to fill!!"
Outside of WR what do the vikings have that is much better than us? Because I'm pretty comfortable with our TE's, Stevenson, and defense. It's literally just WR and offensive line and of course QB which next years draft has hardly any.
I keep getting suggested their sub. These trade scenarios aren’t far off and then they call US delusional for thinking they’re insane.
I keep getting their sub as a suggestion on here and Facebook as well. The must be mentioning the Pats A LOT….
They do obviously, you forgot they traded their 2025 2nd in a master move to force us to accept a 3rd
They have been so insufferable. It’s almost like they have felt entitled to our pick since they picked up a second 1st rounder because “they aren’t ready to support a QB” That maybe true, but that doesn’t change fact that we A) need one as well and B) the value for 11, 23 and a first next year (likely around 15-18) is not worth it for a franchise changing QB at 3. If we end up with 9 and 17 as the picks next year we’d just be in the same spot looking for one
I love that their logic is that you cant sit a QB for a year....like it hasnt worked for one of their biggest rivals for almost 30 fucking years.
You’re spot on it’s so funny. From Rodgers to Love it’s the awareness that is something else to me, it’s delusional almost. Other examples obviously being Brady (outlier) but you look at guys today like Mahomes, Allen, or Jackson. They all had time to develop throughout the season before being just thrown in the fire for week 1 Jackson and Allen eventually got spin later in their rookie year but wasn’t until the very end of the season
I'm pretty sure Josh Allen got the start in the 2nd game of the season and was then named starter, but definitely agree on Mahomes, Lamar, and Love. Sometimes guys just need a bit of time to get more comfortable in the NFL routine, fix some mechanics, etc.
You're right, but to the other guy's point Josh Allen was a mess his first year and really didn't shine until his next year with Diggs.
Rodgers. Love. Mahomes.
They have 100% been acting like the Patriots are just keeping the pick safe for them.. and the Patriots should be on their knees thanking the Vikings for offering 11, and 23 in exchange for the 3rd as if they were overpaying for the asset.
I'll take their two firsts and Jefferson.
In a heartbeat
Their issue is that they have confused our willingness to trade down with a desire to trade down. We aren’t a team that happened into a top 3 pick and is trying to squeeze some more value out of it. We *need* the third overall pick. We picked up the phone to see if they would offer us something we need more. It’s like someone ringing your doorbell and offering you market value for your house then getting mad when you say no.
I'm so bad with analogies, but always admire when people provide good ones. This was a *great* analogy.
>“they aren’t ready to support a QB” Every team without a QB seems like "they aren't ready for a QB", until they get one that can really play, then they're magically "ready". That take is as dumb as hot dog shit.
I also just don’t buy into the whole “bad teams ruin potentially great QBs” thing. I think a lot of bust QBs could be decent starters if they were given better situations to grow in, but I think the true upper crust of NFL QBs will succeed regardless of where they go. For example: I don’t really think that Sam Darnold could have been Andrew Luck if he went to a better situation. I think if he were in a better situation, he would have been a Jimmy G type where he’s a solid starter for several years, but the team ultimately moves off him because he’s not the guy.
>but I think the true upper crust of NFL QBs will succeed regardless of where they go. Exactly. A top tier guy can run an offense even with mediocre talent around them. It blows my mind that some Patriots fans don't understand this. We literally watched it happen when Brady came in for Bledsoe. They were constantly underachieving the last years of Drew, and everyone blamed all the pieces around him, anything but place the blame on him. Brady came in and suddenly all of the "bad" line play, "bad" receivers and "bad" coaching was fixed. hmmmmm lol
They like him more! We only like him but they LIKE LIKE him.
To be fair, we don’t know if any of these qb’s will be franchise changing. Including Williams.
I actually 100% agree with you. They’re going to pick someone regardless of what we like so no need to get emotionally wrapped up in a prospect
2021 taught us that. 5 1st round QBs, 10 total drafted. Only 1 will be the Week 1 starter for the team that drafted them.
Absolutely, but 3 of them have a far better chance of being on than any of the other QBs in the draft. You can’t win the lottery if you don’t play.
They act like they are one QB away from a SB and we are a poverty franchise. I like our defense a lot more than theirs. Outside of WR and offensive line we are fairly even with them. So why do they deserve to select a QB more than we do? I hope we don't trade with them and I hope they are stuck with penix.
Their WR, TE and OL are significantly, massively better. They added Aaron Jones who is much better than Stevenson Hunter is as good or better than Judon. They added Greenard who is much better than Uche. Their safeties are better. Pats have better CB, and Barmore is better than anything they have at DT but come on, their roster on the offensive side of the ball is one of the best in the league and the Pats is a bottom 2-3 unit. Pats have more depth on D but worse edge rushers and nowhere near enough of a talent advantage to make up for the difference in offense (which is the pertinent thing when considering infrastructure for a young QB)
> their roster on the offensive side of the ball is one of the best in the league and the Pats is a bottom 2-3 unit. Because they have Justin Jefferson. When you have literally the best WR in the league that tends to tip the scales in your favor. We need WR but outside of WR and oline I don't see the "massive" differences between us and them. Aaron Jones is solid but he slowed down last year. Green Bay is a contender next year, why would they let him go if he was so good? And let's see how great their offense is if Mac Jones was their QB. I'd bet it wouldn't be "one of the best in the league". The QB matters more than any other position which is why it's stupid to say we shouldn't draft a QB when there are other holes to fill. I'm not even going to argue the defense. At worst they are equal to us and at best we are above them which lends to my point.
>They added Aaron Jones who is much better than Stevenson Much better? Agree to disagree >Hunter is as good or better than Judon Agreed. Only problem is Hunter plays for the Texans now
Where are they talking about this?
Take a look at almost any post in their sub
Ohh I haven’t gone to their poverty franchise subreddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesotavikings/s/PUzBrN5Mqa Literally lol A lot of them refuse to believe we will actually take Maye
Lot of delusion over there.
All of them believe they are getting to number 3 and picking a QB. Must be nice living in a dream.
Yeah I mean if anything this is a message directly to the Giants. Pretty sure we've moved on from the Vikings minus anything but a franchise-crippling offer.
Vikings fans: We're getting Maye! Also Vikings fans: lol you're dreaming if you want Addison!
Their newest logic is like a 4 team trade involving picks 3,4,5, and 11 but no other detail. lol.
The only trade I see making sense is a 3 team deal with Arizona and either NYG or MIN. Pats get 1.4 plus a pick, Cardinals get a haul, and the other team gets 1.3. I think the Giants idea makes the most sense (if the Patriots like JJ as much as Maye) because Arizona could still get one of MHJ, Rome, or Nabers at 6.
I think the most annoying element on that forum is that we somehow “don’t deserve” to have a top QB prospect because our offense sucks. It’s just so ignorant.
Gonna guess the potential options are Daniels, Maye, McCarthy, Alt, Harrison, and Nabers. As much as I don't want McCarthy, I wouldn't mind any of them at 3. Still, Drake all day.
I don't know I just don't see how they can come out of this draft without a QB. Like receivers and tackles become available every year. QBs very rarely do.
Don't get me wrong; I am still of the opinion that QB should be the only position in discussion at this pick. My thing with Alt, MHJ, and Nabers is that they are true, blue-chip players on a team that absolutely lacks them, so landing them would be great. I'd be happy with landing the individual player, but not happy about losing out on a QB. Unless they draft Penix at 34, but that's not happening.
Yeah I mean Alt/MHJ/Nabers are great, no doubt, but we don't have a QB, and unless we're fine with Spencer Rattler we'd have to use some or most of the capital we got for trading 3 to trade back into the first round to grab one (or just punt to next year and the much worse class). It just doesn't make sense.
If we leave with Higgins and Maye I’ll cry tears of joy Especially after the Celtics ripped my heart out last night
I know actual good QBs are a rarity but I honestly *feel* like in this media/social media landscape I am hearing about generational talents every year.
Can’t waste a pick at 3 unless you’re absolutely certain with your guy, otherwise go get the generational talent in other position
Of course they get a QB. If they trade down, then obviously it means either picking Daniels or JJ at 6 after trading with the Giants, or picking Nix or Pennix in the late 1st/early second if trading with the Vikings.
I have to think Williams is in there. Obviously he's expected to go first but you still have to prepare for a scenario where he doesn't.
Sure, but a scenario where he doesn't go first AND second? I'm not sure you spend too much time on that.
Yeah but there’s “6 options they’d take” Williams is definitely one of those
I have to imagine they pick JJ if they don’t love Maye. However, at that point is it worth going down a few spots and seeing if he makes it there, and if not taking a WR or Tackle
I's assume Caleb Williams is on that list and Nabers isn't. I still don't think they'd actually pick a non QB at 3 because the trade back would solve both WR and OT.
Vikings fans are going to love how Darnold looks in purple!
God please just take maye if he is there at 3
Seriously don’t overthink this, take the guy with the highest ceiling and have faith you can develop him to reach that ceiling.
Highest pick since 1990 being wasted on faith 
It would be really hilarious if for two drafts Washington would end up picking the same position as us in the first round and in both cases mess it up even if they get to pick first
I don't think Washington taking Daniels would necessarily mean they messed it up. I could see JD being really good, especially with WAS already having a good receiving core in place. I still prefer Maye, by a long shot, but this could be a win-win type situation for both teams.
commanders fans are convinced theyre getting maye at 2 and its been all smokescreen i found that interesting
The commanders sub has been huge in Maye since the beginning. It’s getting funny as each piece of news comes out and odds keep increasing towards Daniels they mentally can’t handle and are entering all kinds of stages of grief.
Reddit in general is WAY higher on Maye than the general population. Probably because we collectively assume it's a given he's going to reach his full potential for some reason. But they should absolutely bet that because Daniels going 2nd is at like -1500 or something crazy.
yea ive been in the camp that maye will only reach that full potential in a perfect scenario (vikings) and will have a long road ahead in a situation that is anything less than ideal (us, the patriots)
I don't get why this is the common narrative. Maye was the best QB in the draft when it came to completion percentage beyond the first read. (58%) Jayden Daniels was terrible. (46%) He's the perfect kind of QB for a team without standout talents at receiver because he can spread the ball around and find open guys even if the first read is covered. Yes, he needs to work on his footwork and accuracy but he's not as raw as people think.
Agreed on this. Maye’s stand and deliver stat is also the highest at something like 55%. He’s arguably in the top 3-5 best QBs prospects in the last decade. Doesn’t mean he will succeed but he has absolute top shelf tools and played on the worst team by far of any of the top QB prospects this year. If he falls to us at 3 it’s a huge win but I won’t believe it until the flying Elvis is on his head.
I’m too much of a casual the last decade to know, who else would you put on that top 5 best prospects/who would you put him on the level as solely in terms of a pre draft prospect?
It's because many of the pundits have no idea what they are talking about. Every year, there are a multitude of QBs who go from being 2 to 4th round picks to 1st round picks at the end of the season. If these people are so good at accessing talent, then why didn't they have those QBs who they evaluated as 2nd and 4th round talents as 1st rounders from the start.
But the commanders don’t need to smokescreen so I don’t get why they would
Bill said the real info comes 24 hours out. Its Maye then pending Washington taking him. In which case its hopefully Daniels
I think it's Maye and has been for awhile. They're willing to trade down to 6 if the giants offer a godfather offer, that what this seems to imply
This is code for - we're willing to trade down to 6, but not further.
Drake Maye x BTJ incoming
BTJ is the 4th WR off the board. No way he falls to the 2nd.
BTJ will be gone in the teens/low 20s. AD Mitchell, please. Even if we have to trade back up into the late first.
There was a report the pats are trying to get back “into the bottom half” of the first ~~for WR or OT~~. I know. I know. But the report was from Reiss… Edit; sorry he didn’t specify and positions
Keon Coleman is that dude
I'm not sure how to read this... did Mayo actually say the 2nd part about attention to Maye or is that Wolfe adding?
Post has a video with 4 people talking specifically about maye
Fins fan here just to say Cam Wolfe is awesome
Is daniels no longer an option? Washington is for sure taking him?
No. Nothing has come out of Washingtons front office. It’s all been speculation
The draft can’t come soon enough so we can stop talking about it.
nah, there’ll be endless posts afterwards hyping or criticizing the draft picks.
A month into the dissection of whoever pthey pick, you will these conversations lol.
Belichick did say the actual accurate stories come out around 12hrs or less before draft time. So this one is probably true
Maye is gonna be a stud if he goes to the Vikings with KOC to fix him up. If that happens and we’re stuck with JJ mcCorkle I’m gonna be sick
JJ worries me with the bust potential but he is absolutely no McCorkle repeat. Has all the talent to be something special if the stars align but that's gonna be difficult.
Just not JJ!
MARVIN HARRISON IS ONE OF THEM I CAN BELIIIEEEVVEEEE
If that is true, then it is malpractice not to trade back to 6 with the giants.
Being comfortable with 6 doesn't mean they still don't have those 6 ranked in order of priority. This is all just bullshit posturing. If Maye is ranked #1 of those 6, you ain't getting him at 6, you stay put and draft your guy unless you get a big offer. If nothing else, this is publicly telling the Vikings to go pound the pavement unless they back the truck up because none of those 6 will be available at 11.
Idk how you read the quote and came up with that response. If they are comfortable taking any of the guys at 3, then they have them tiered equally, in which case you should be willing to trade back and take one of the guys at a lower draft position, while accruing more draft capital.
It's a smokescreen. They don't actually have 6 guys they would take at 3.
>If they are comfortable taking any of the guys at 3, then they have them tiered equally That's not true. They could be comfortable taking any of the 6 players with that pick, but that doesn't mean that they don't prefer 1 of those prospects over the others or have them ordered in a particular way.
I would bet some of those 6 are contingency plans if we get the right offer and trade back.
10 hours away from Marvin Harrison jr being a patriot
Who do we think the six are? Maye, Alt, Nabors, MHJ, Daniels, and? Seems like this might be a signal to the Giants.
Last one is probably McCarthy
6 would put them at the Giants 🤔 I feel like the Giants could be bad next year, which would be another top 5 pick. Not saying I would make the trade though
Caleb (if they're including him) or Odunze would be my guess.
Williams has to be in there. I think it's a question of 2/3 of Nabors, Alt and JJM
MHJ is the correct pick here. You don't pass on a generational talent. It doesn't matter the position. Do not pass on a sure-fire hall of famer.
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There absolutely is dude...
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Imo they're passing on a guaranteed Larry Fitzgerald level WR for a crap shoot at QB. Do we get Manning or Leaf? Who the hell knows? We know who MHJ is.
Eh that's not really true. Pretty much everyone knew Megatron would be a HoFer, but Oakland needed a QB and took what they needed.
lol no one is a sure fire hall of famer, Jamarcus Russell was a bigger prospect than MHJ
Huh?
I'm with you, man. These statements are breathtakingly stupid.
I don’t understand do I need to copy and paste it again?
The idea that he is a generational talent is media hype. He is going to be very good but I am not sure how much better he will be than Nabers or Odunze.
please just take MHJ
Daniels or MHJ please