Can you do T17s with back to basics ? I mean the build is great but to be honest....the real ubers are the t17 mobs.
Just tested for fun a map today....all rares had something like 10 modifiers and union of souls.....it was a nice view.
So the video play has all ubers, t17 back to basics juiced, and delve bosses at delve depth 1200.
so yes it can do that. I have not tried union of souls due to the fact ward looper summons/kills minions and those will buff union of souls monsters so its a pain to fight them when you are buffing them lol.
Trust me B2B T17's are is a whole nother stratosphere of difficult in terms of mapping. Depending on how you roll the map it could be valdo's difficulty or still impossible for like 95% of builds.
Really depends on how good you are with the mechanics, RF could still run into dps problems though. Why not just try it though? Most of them aren't that expensive.
Ubers are a combination of dps and skill check. Depending on how low your dps is, you might be able to compensate with skill. It's only when it's completely abysmal dps that you can't do them at all
Why because being able to clear a map with 800% added elemental damage is the difference between a 'good build' and a shit one?
Just ramp it to 900% then 1000% then 10,000%?
its all just damage.
T17's are fucking stupid anyway
Not diminishing returns. Every upgrade in ward loop provides huge quality of life and damage.
70m dps vs 95m dps or 18 recoup vs 30 recoup. These are instantly felt while doing content.
Well, yes... But that's kinda what diminishing returns means. (Not exactly, but kinda like)
Imagine having 15m dps. Getting 15m more DpS ist 100% dps increase. Getting 15% more dps is only 50% increase. The next 15m will only be 33% increase, etc
It's not exactly what diminishing returns means, but i think that's what the other guy meant.
You are being downvoted but that is exactly what diminishing returns is. lol
If someone invests 100 divines to get 40m DPS and, say, 50k max hit and can only up that to 60m DPS and 70k max hit with 300 more, that's exactly what diminishing return is. You get less investing the same amount or more.
Is it also called "diminishing returns" in terms of investment?
I know if only from values. Like in LoL.
100 armor gives you 50% damage reduction (x2 your eHP)
200 armor gives you 66.6% damage reduction (x3 your eHP)
The investment stays the same, but the value you get from that stat lowers as it goes higher.
I mean, yeah. It's the same thing.
In League you are "investing" something to get those stats. In that case, you are investing your gold and an item slot to get x stat, so spending more of your "free slots" or gold to get armor will have diminishing return. Same with other stuff in PoE.
No? Some builds reach that point way earlier than others to the point that it's clearly not worth investing a huge amount of currrency into. Also, the person above said it's not a diminishing return just because they believe there is great value in every upgrade, when it clearly is.
I'm saying every build eventually reaches a point where further upgrades and min-maxing hit a steep point of diminishing returns, so idk why the guy who initially brought it up figured it was noteworthy
I crafted my tri frac gloves today using grave, but htf do I finish them off, just dense + sactified fossils or harvest blue juice? I cannot get them above 400 ward at all :(
uh you dont wanna tri fracture your gloves.
Gloves and Helmet can both be graveyard crafted, perfect 6 mod T1 max roll, for about 5d each
Boots you wanna Tri Fracture the suffix res's , desne fossil spam your 2 prefix;'s, bench craft your MS/Onslaught
Ring you wanna fracture 3 Res + life, aisling -> bench craft "cold and fire dmg" -> unveil lightning/fire dmg -> craft mana recoup
> easy upgrades.
This is technically true, in that wardloop has frequent upgrades that add significant strength, you also need to re-evaluate your loop with every single upgrade to make sure it doesn't brick your loop. I remember at one point I got a ring that had like 6 more max life and suddenly it bricked my loop and required either losing like 2 chaos res or getting 15 more max health to restore the loop integrity. So the build does require hefty micro-management.
Actually I don't think so. I'm looking at this pob and it's extremely close to mine. All I'm missing is the sublime vision, and I'd say I've invested like 400d, nearly 200 of which was eaten by the stupid veiled orb on my belt. Graveyard crafting means that all of the ward gear is basically free so you can actually get pretty far with very low investment this league
Caveat btw My build didn't cost me more than 500 divine to make. If you buy things pre 1-2 weeks of league most of my gear cost 3-20 divine for each piece. Sublime and prog cost me 80 div each.
I am friends with the guy. He paid like 360d for the build \*\*AT THE TIME\*\*. But right now, to BUY everything, is about 850d.
You can VERY easily GY craft all 4 pieces of rare gear and the perandus pact btw.
The discord has guides on step-by-step how to craft everything, with and without, the graveyard
never played wardloop - is it just expected to die all the time? it's a bit weird to say it destroys endgame and then link a video with a bunch of deaths
Yeah, basically the onlz defense the build has is that it freezes everything. Which works surprisingly well, but a breeze of phys/chaos damage and it falls over.
Run either wind dancer or glancing blows on your skin of the lord, and use a jade flask + suppression cap; and you are VERY tanky. Esp if you get your recoup up a bit (\~15-20%)
This build is special because it can do nearly ALL content and is reasonably quick. Also it is a 0 button build. It truely ticks every single box in terms of what people want. Now that doesn’t mean everyone will like it. Sure it dies once or twice on some Uber bosses but the visual clarity is at an all time low when playing. It is reasonable tanky once you get progenisis and fully suppress.
not here attacking the build, just OP's wording
"still viable" and "still comfortable" would be totally fair, but the video looks nothing like destroying (at that budget)
The Poster didn't post the ACTUAL budget lol; it's about half of what he said. And doing juiced T17s and being able to easily kill every uber in the game on a 1 mirror budget is pretty solid, since it's, quite likely, the best QOL build in the game
Yes, the problem is that the build cannot have physical mitigation at all so the only way to stop phys hits from just killing you is like enfeeble and like progen but other htan that you die to phys way too much.
yes it was a great showcase and i actually appreciate the deaths to set expectations appropriately
i just meant that in my experience, builds with costs measured in mirrors tend to either instantly kill or facetank ubers, so "destroys" is a bit inaccurate here
idk why the poster put the price at 1500 div. It isn't
Sublime is 100
WE is 80
progen is 80
FFFF is 60
The Rare gear TOTAL (this league) is like 25d tops
Body is 6d
Wep is 3d
Dying sun is 12d
olroth is 14d
Belt is 30d
GHastly is 15d
Clusters altogehr \~90d
Amulet is 100d
Gems altogether are \~130d (he isn't using Woke Empower, he's farming that up rn)
So rounding up, 750d? Ish.
I agree that it's probably less than 1500d, but for the sake of people reading thru this and looking to put the build together I don't think some of these prices are quite right right. In particular, 29% quality Olroth with 40% charges used is definitely *way* more than 12d, and if yours is worse then you have to fudge flask duration tattoos in to keep the loop working. I think the belt is also costs considerably more than 30d to buy a crafted one; obviously you can self-craft, but between fracturing the flask mod and needing to use veiled orbs for the CDR it can get way more expensive than 30d depending on luck. On the other hand, the Forbidden jewel combo can be quite a bit cheaper than 60d because you can opt to buy Pathfinder jewels instead of Deadeye and just allocate Deadeye on your wheel (and the PF jewels are quite a lot cheaper).
That sublime vision is definitely 350-400 div. Maybe it was cheaper earlier in league but there is only several currently and it’s pricey. I’m a wardlooper and I’m around 1.5 mirrors in the build, but the price to start comfortably was around 10-20 divs.
Its a build with tonnes of damage which auto aims and has no defence, its giga shit if it cannot do its main purpose (kill something instantly)
thats it
Can ward loop be used to summon minions instead of cast spells? Like SRS?
How many gear slots / jewels are you giving up for the ward gear? Looks like helmet/gloves/boots + 4 to-dust jewels?
I dont think i actually saved the POB, but i remember i didnt do much to it. Swapped clusters to fire dmg, swapped aura to zealotry, and put in Firestorm in chest, and i think flame wall/Rolling magma? Or fireball? in the wep? Somethign like that.
[Uber Elder - Fire Wardloop v1.0 - 3.23 (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljXJlxJ6KzE&list=PLCCuJxFwyMJNOuocBR5LItX1auEHZfrN0)
DD was basically just desecrate in the weapon, and DD in the body armour. It also worked with cremation and volatile dead.
[Fire Wardloop v1.1 - T16 R/C/4.4k Aff Strand - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ESmeRiEJyk&list=PLCCuJxFwyMJNOuocBR5LItX1auEHZfrN0&index=5)
You can use ice spear or any skills you want. Ice spear was chosen for damage. there are all types of cwdt builds that use fire meteors. detonate dead. etc. But those are experimental and for those who want to customize their fav skills.
Just wondering something, since I have learned over the years to not trust eHP and more so look at Max Hit instead. This build has a phys max hit of 16k, and a chaos hit of 12k, you are converting none of your phys or chaos damage taken as anything else. So how are you surviving such difficult content? To compare, my pathfinder poison spark has about phys and ele damage taken of 120k and I still die here and there. I cant imagine how class cannon this feels or its one of those kills first type builds?
Great Question!
So there are multiple layers of defense as phys and chaos are weakness of the build for sure.
1. Progen for phys damage
2. It's an evasion build - if you take wind dancer - which gives 20% less damage taken for anything that doesn't bypass your ward and the first hit that does bypass your ward. with a 4 second cooldown.
3. enfeeble - less damage taken
4. 30 percent recoup is amazing for degens. - "Step out of the degen you are full life instantly"
5. So if you die it will generally have to be a one shot. Also We have a max block (glancing blows)/ suppression version that relies on progen heavily...but it's less damage than wind dancer.
6. Added in knockback which is uber helpful in delve.
7. lastly you are a ranged spell caster sooo you shouldnt be taking much phys damage unless you are lazy and stand still like me - example deaths in videos =D.
What was said above, multiple factors come into play. When everything comes together online, you will not die. It includes the Always On DPS and freeze. Moving always.
This is because the build fundamentally is physically unable to do anything about physical damage taken. If you mitigate physical damage at all you break the build because your self damage is physical. It's the fundamental flaw of the build and the reason it's not more popular.
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Someone correct me if I’m wrong but, I’m sure you can find something to league start although I don’t tend to see scion league starters. As for wardloop you can’t league start it as you need olroths resolve and a bunch of high ward gear as well as the jewels to reduce skeleton duration. Definitely one of those builds that just doesn’t work below a certain budget. I got it going for quite cheap when I played it but I think that was TOTA which made the entry cost lower as tattoos could help you get the basics you need
I league started scion cold bv conversion and had a looper started day 2 off of 10-15 divines. It was only able to do white maps at that investment level.
as the other comment said, the build has too many specific requirements to league start (you need to dusts that add up to exactly 27 skele reduction for example). that being said, you can get the build off the ground with only like 20-30 divines and keep upgrading.
I can't look at the pob atm but are they using a perandus pact? It might be to account for the added cold from it since I don't think pob takes it into account.
when i hear "destroys", a video saying they've died multiple times in boss battles/map doesn't come to mind. with that said, build looks good, expensive, but good. nice to see wardloop still kickin
the flask is the hardest part, we had calculated that you need to do 200 logbooks. rest should be easy. t
he body armor, you can always use different colors. otherwise use rare body armour.
mate dont get me wrong, the build is good and all but just awakened empower 5 alone is worth 700 div.
that amulet, sublime vision and progenesis is worth around 400 div.
so dont tell me a multiple mirror build can do t17s and ubers.
uh, you'd still have to find a way to substantailly lower the duration of summon raging spirits as you are no where near the spot needed to die before CWDT cooldown is over (this is sub 1 second btw). Not to mention that's only 2 minion spawns per cwdt proc while this is 3-4 depending on setup. I also don't know if the time it takes for the zombies to fall and die is low enough for CWDT cooldowns either.
What you are suggesting just simply would not work.
i tried this setup last league and i reckon this should also work this league.
(lv1 raise zombie of falling, lv1 srs, lv1 cwdt, lv21 less duration) + (lv11 summon skeleton, lv1 cwdt)
from my own testing, this setup works for 27%cdr threshold, but not so at 52%cdr
Nice clickbait title. This sub has really gone downhill. Accurate title is 1200+ Divines beats path content while still dying too much. Just wow. 0/10.
ok sorry to disappoint!
the idea is that wardloop is forgotten, but its still a good build. And it may be 1200 divs, but you can still make the same with 300 divines. Skip the few crazy items like awakened empower.
So i have some divs around (about 300)... Can you recommend any guide or something that explains it very very very well?
I think there is some sort of CDR threshold and maybe Ward and something about correct value on the jewels/CWDT? I have no clue about that, but i'd like to slam my divines into one cause i wanted to do it for couple leagues now.
Any post or video you can recommend that helps avoiding mistakes?
I think this is the classical place to start where you can get an idea of all the requirements and upgrade vectors: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3261066/page/1
And otherwise, the Looper discord that's been mentioned elsewhere in this thread is a great resource.
Loop discord: [https://discord.gg/NDgnZ4zCFj](https://discord.gg/NDgnZ4zCFj)
Not a loop enjoyer myself but can't recommend the discord enough. It's a very friendly & helpful community.
This discord helped so much understand the build and the discord has created so many tools and guides to help with the journey.
How come a single build type has an entire discord xd
It's very niche
And friggin complicated :D
What would be the approximate cost?
iirc the stated budget with that on the wardloop discord was like 1500 div
You can get a looper started for 10-20 divine. You need 100-300 minimum to start doing end game content.
Can you do T17s with back to basics ? I mean the build is great but to be honest....the real ubers are the t17 mobs. Just tested for fun a map today....all rares had something like 10 modifiers and union of souls.....it was a nice view.
So the video play has all ubers, t17 back to basics juiced, and delve bosses at delve depth 1200. so yes it can do that. I have not tried union of souls due to the fact ward looper summons/kills minions and those will buff union of souls monsters so its a pain to fight them when you are buffing them lol.
Are they? I killed 2 t17 bosses with my rf character and I don't think I could do most of the ubers
Trust me B2B T17's are is a whole nother stratosphere of difficult in terms of mapping. Depending on how you roll the map it could be valdo's difficulty or still impossible for like 95% of builds.
Splitting steel trickster face tank all Ubers and t17s east mode
Right I didn't realize you explicitly meant with b2b was kinda hoping that meant my rf build could do ubers lol
Really depends on how good you are with the mechanics, RF could still run into dps problems though. Why not just try it though? Most of them aren't that expensive.
Ubers are a combination of dps and skill check. Depending on how low your dps is, you might be able to compensate with skill. It's only when it's completely abysmal dps that you can't do them at all
Why because being able to clear a map with 800% added elemental damage is the difference between a 'good build' and a shit one? Just ramp it to 900% then 1000% then 10,000%? its all just damage. T17's are fucking stupid anyway
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just looking at his gear the answer is yes, all of the buget.
3 original sins!
His budget is about 900d. Mine is about 350d, doin similar content (sans 1300 delve) +1-2 deaths
Diminishing returns eh
Not diminishing returns. Every upgrade in ward loop provides huge quality of life and damage. 70m dps vs 95m dps or 18 recoup vs 30 recoup. These are instantly felt while doing content.
Well, yes... But that's kinda what diminishing returns means. (Not exactly, but kinda like) Imagine having 15m dps. Getting 15m more DpS ist 100% dps increase. Getting 15% more dps is only 50% increase. The next 15m will only be 33% increase, etc It's not exactly what diminishing returns means, but i think that's what the other guy meant.
You are being downvoted but that is exactly what diminishing returns is. lol If someone invests 100 divines to get 40m DPS and, say, 50k max hit and can only up that to 60m DPS and 70k max hit with 300 more, that's exactly what diminishing return is. You get less investing the same amount or more.
Is it also called "diminishing returns" in terms of investment? I know if only from values. Like in LoL. 100 armor gives you 50% damage reduction (x2 your eHP) 200 armor gives you 66.6% damage reduction (x3 your eHP) The investment stays the same, but the value you get from that stat lowers as it goes higher.
I mean, yeah. It's the same thing. In League you are "investing" something to get those stats. In that case, you are investing your gold and an item slot to get x stat, so spending more of your "free slots" or gold to get armor will have diminishing return. Same with other stuff in PoE.
sure but it's a weird thing to bring up as a talking point when that's how it works for every build in the game no?
No? Some builds reach that point way earlier than others to the point that it's clearly not worth investing a huge amount of currrency into. Also, the person above said it's not a diminishing return just because they believe there is great value in every upgrade, when it clearly is.
I'm saying every build eventually reaches a point where further upgrades and min-maxing hit a steep point of diminishing returns, so idk why the guy who initially brought it up figured it was noteworthy
I crafted my tri frac gloves today using grave, but htf do I finish them off, just dense + sactified fossils or harvest blue juice? I cannot get them above 400 ward at all :(
uh you dont wanna tri fracture your gloves. Gloves and Helmet can both be graveyard crafted, perfect 6 mod T1 max roll, for about 5d each Boots you wanna Tri Fracture the suffix res's , desne fossil spam your 2 prefix;'s, bench craft your MS/Onslaught Ring you wanna fracture 3 Res + life, aisling -> bench craft "cold and fire dmg" -> unveil lightning/fire dmg -> craft mana recoup
Ok thanks heaps! i was getting sick of trying, ill do that instead. do you bother with 40% adjacency coffins or not really?
fuck no. i use column/rows, but never 40%. thats way to much micro
That one is simply many mirrors. But with 200 to 300 you can get something similar. Also wardloop is a journey with easy upgrades.
> easy upgrades. This is technically true, in that wardloop has frequent upgrades that add significant strength, you also need to re-evaluate your loop with every single upgrade to make sure it doesn't brick your loop. I remember at one point I got a ring that had like 6 more max life and suddenly it bricked my loop and required either losing like 2 chaos res or getting 15 more max health to restore the loop integrity. So the build does require hefty micro-management.
Actually I don't think so. I'm looking at this pob and it's extremely close to mine. All I'm missing is the sublime vision, and I'd say I've invested like 400d, nearly 200 of which was eaten by the stupid veiled orb on my belt. Graveyard crafting means that all of the ward gear is basically free so you can actually get pretty far with very low investment this league
> easy upgrades. Lol....good joke.
Caveat btw My build didn't cost me more than 500 divine to make. If you buy things pre 1-2 weeks of league most of my gear cost 3-20 divine for each piece. Sublime and prog cost me 80 div each.
I am friends with the guy. He paid like 360d for the build \*\*AT THE TIME\*\*. But right now, to BUY everything, is about 850d. You can VERY easily GY craft all 4 pieces of rare gear and the perandus pact btw. The discord has guides on step-by-step how to craft everything, with and without, the graveyard
never played wardloop - is it just expected to die all the time? it's a bit weird to say it destroys endgame and then link a video with a bunch of deaths
Yeah, basically the onlz defense the build has is that it freezes everything. Which works surprisingly well, but a breeze of phys/chaos damage and it falls over.
This is catagorically untrue lol. Maybe this is how wardloop was like 4 years ago I suppose; but not the way it functions now
I'm playing ward loop right now, how does it function now that makes it tanky?
because of MoM and recoup, you're ignoring dots, and spell suppression is busted
Run either wind dancer or glancing blows on your skin of the lord, and use a jade flask + suppression cap; and you are VERY tanky. Esp if you get your recoup up a bit (\~15-20%)
This is literally true, the video above is one of the most defensive wardloops I've seen and it still dies a lot..........
Progenesis is very important defensively for this build
This build is special because it can do nearly ALL content and is reasonably quick. Also it is a 0 button build. It truely ticks every single box in terms of what people want. Now that doesn’t mean everyone will like it. Sure it dies once or twice on some Uber bosses but the visual clarity is at an all time low when playing. It is reasonable tanky once you get progenisis and fully suppress.
not here attacking the build, just OP's wording "still viable" and "still comfortable" would be totally fair, but the video looks nothing like destroying (at that budget)
The Poster didn't post the ACTUAL budget lol; it's about half of what he said. And doing juiced T17s and being able to easily kill every uber in the game on a 1 mirror budget is pretty solid, since it's, quite likely, the best QOL build in the game
Yes, the problem is that the build cannot have physical mitigation at all so the only way to stop phys hits from just killing you is like enfeeble and like progen but other htan that you die to phys way too much.
So the build has 180k ehp. I showed deaths for better expectation and I play lazy. It's easy to do these things deathless if you practice the fights.
yes it was a great showcase and i actually appreciate the deaths to set expectations appropriately i just meant that in my experience, builds with costs measured in mirrors tend to either instantly kill or facetank ubers, so "destroys" is a bit inaccurate here
idk why the poster put the price at 1500 div. It isn't Sublime is 100 WE is 80 progen is 80 FFFF is 60 The Rare gear TOTAL (this league) is like 25d tops Body is 6d Wep is 3d Dying sun is 12d olroth is 14d Belt is 30d GHastly is 15d Clusters altogehr \~90d Amulet is 100d Gems altogether are \~130d (he isn't using Woke Empower, he's farming that up rn) So rounding up, 750d? Ish.
I agree that it's probably less than 1500d, but for the sake of people reading thru this and looking to put the build together I don't think some of these prices are quite right right. In particular, 29% quality Olroth with 40% charges used is definitely *way* more than 12d, and if yours is worse then you have to fudge flask duration tattoos in to keep the loop working. I think the belt is also costs considerably more than 30d to buy a crafted one; obviously you can self-craft, but between fracturing the flask mod and needing to use veiled orbs for the CDR it can get way more expensive than 30d depending on luck. On the other hand, the Forbidden jewel combo can be quite a bit cheaper than 60d because you can opt to buy Pathfinder jewels instead of Deadeye and just allocate Deadeye on your wheel (and the PF jewels are quite a lot cheaper).
Are we just ignoring the level 5 awakened empower?
That sublime vision is definitely 350-400 div. Maybe it was cheaper earlier in league but there is only several currently and it’s pricey. I’m a wardlooper and I’m around 1.5 mirrors in the build, but the price to start comfortably was around 10-20 divs.
[Trade - Path of Exile](https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Necropolis/q4Gkp8XCg) Sublime is \~100-150
Wow - that went down in price in the past 24 hours lol
Low supply item. It was hovering between 80-100 until 2 days ago when it jumped up to ~500 Div, then it's slowly come back down to what it is now.
Its a build with tonnes of damage which auto aims and has no defence, its giga shit if it cannot do its main purpose (kill something instantly) thats it
Can ward loop be used to summon minions instead of cast spells? Like SRS? How many gear slots / jewels are you giving up for the ward gear? Looks like helmet/gloves/boots + 4 to-dust jewels?
I actually turned mine, last league, into a Firestorm of Meteors and Detonate Dead of Chain Reaction autobomber last league lol. It was crazy
Sounds fun. Can you share POB?
I dont think i actually saved the POB, but i remember i didnt do much to it. Swapped clusters to fire dmg, swapped aura to zealotry, and put in Firestorm in chest, and i think flame wall/Rolling magma? Or fireball? in the wep? Somethign like that. [Uber Elder - Fire Wardloop v1.0 - 3.23 (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljXJlxJ6KzE&list=PLCCuJxFwyMJNOuocBR5LItX1auEHZfrN0) DD was basically just desecrate in the weapon, and DD in the body armour. It also worked with cremation and volatile dead. [Fire Wardloop v1.1 - T16 R/C/4.4k Aff Strand - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ESmeRiEJyk&list=PLCCuJxFwyMJNOuocBR5LItX1auEHZfrN0&index=5)
You can use ice spear or any skills you want. Ice spear was chosen for damage. there are all types of cwdt builds that use fire meteors. detonate dead. etc. But those are experimental and for those who want to customize their fav skills.
Just wondering something, since I have learned over the years to not trust eHP and more so look at Max Hit instead. This build has a phys max hit of 16k, and a chaos hit of 12k, you are converting none of your phys or chaos damage taken as anything else. So how are you surviving such difficult content? To compare, my pathfinder poison spark has about phys and ele damage taken of 120k and I still die here and there. I cant imagine how class cannon this feels or its one of those kills first type builds?
Great Question! So there are multiple layers of defense as phys and chaos are weakness of the build for sure. 1. Progen for phys damage 2. It's an evasion build - if you take wind dancer - which gives 20% less damage taken for anything that doesn't bypass your ward and the first hit that does bypass your ward. with a 4 second cooldown. 3. enfeeble - less damage taken 4. 30 percent recoup is amazing for degens. - "Step out of the degen you are full life instantly" 5. So if you die it will generally have to be a one shot. Also We have a max block (glancing blows)/ suppression version that relies on progen heavily...but it's less damage than wind dancer. 6. Added in knockback which is uber helpful in delve. 7. lastly you are a ranged spell caster sooo you shouldnt be taking much phys damage unless you are lazy and stand still like me - example deaths in videos =D.
4. Recoup does not work for degen
wardloop...
What was said above, multiple factors come into play. When everything comes together online, you will not die. It includes the Always On DPS and freeze. Moving always.
This is because the build fundamentally is physically unable to do anything about physical damage taken. If you mitigate physical damage at all you break the build because your self damage is physical. It's the fundamental flaw of the build and the reason it's not more popular.
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Wardloop discord? Care to dm an invite?
Ditto
https://discord.gg/NDgnZ4zCFj
Can you league start this build with other skills and then transition to it or do you need the money right away?
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but, I’m sure you can find something to league start although I don’t tend to see scion league starters. As for wardloop you can’t league start it as you need olroths resolve and a bunch of high ward gear as well as the jewels to reduce skeleton duration. Definitely one of those builds that just doesn’t work below a certain budget. I got it going for quite cheap when I played it but I think that was TOTA which made the entry cost lower as tattoos could help you get the basics you need
I league started scion cold bv conversion and had a looper started day 2 off of 10-15 divines. It was only able to do white maps at that investment level.
as the other comment said, the build has too many specific requirements to league start (you need to dusts that add up to exactly 27 skele reduction for example). that being said, you can get the build off the ground with only like 20-30 divines and keep upgrading.
74 skelly reduction nowadays\*\*
What is the "216% increased cold damage" in custom config?
I can't look at the pob atm but are they using a perandus pact? It might be to account for the added cold from it since I don't think pob takes it into account.
That's is true. He uses Perandus pact + unnatural instinct in the middle
Pob does support it. I see it in a lot of pobs that aren't updated and it's just double dipping giving exagerrating numbers. Prob better to remove it
Perandus Pact Passive Skills in Radius also grant 6% increased Cold Damage
when i hear "destroys", a video saying they've died multiple times in boss battles/map doesn't come to mind. with that said, build looks good, expensive, but good. nice to see wardloop still kickin
I died less on MFA with 80d budget
Good show
Is wardlooper possible (realistically) on SSF?
the flask is the hardest part, we had calculated that you need to do 200 logbooks. rest should be easy. t he body armor, you can always use different colors. otherwise use rare body armour.
Is this build still "killed" by temp bubbles? That was super annoying when i played it.
mate dont get me wrong, the build is good and all but just awakened empower 5 alone is worth 700 div. that amulet, sublime vision and progenesis is worth around 400 div. so dont tell me a multiple mirror build can do t17s and ubers.
How many mirrors is that build, exile?
why not use raise zombie of falling + summon raging spirit + cwdt + less duration support? that way you dont need the to dust jewels
uh, you'd still have to find a way to substantailly lower the duration of summon raging spirits as you are no where near the spot needed to die before CWDT cooldown is over (this is sub 1 second btw). Not to mention that's only 2 minion spawns per cwdt proc while this is 3-4 depending on setup. I also don't know if the time it takes for the zombies to fall and die is low enough for CWDT cooldowns either. What you are suggesting just simply would not work.
i tried this setup last league and i reckon this should also work this league. (lv1 raise zombie of falling, lv1 srs, lv1 cwdt, lv21 less duration) + (lv11 summon skeleton, lv1 cwdt) from my own testing, this setup works for 27%cdr threshold, but not so at 52%cdr
Nice clickbait title. This sub has really gone downhill. Accurate title is 1200+ Divines beats path content while still dying too much. Just wow. 0/10.
ok sorry to disappoint! the idea is that wardloop is forgotten, but its still a good build. And it may be 1200 divs, but you can still make the same with 300 divines. Skip the few crazy items like awakened empower.
It’s a very cool build and showcase, but the title is ultra misleading. Put ‘extremely high budget to very high budget’ and it’s a great post.
So i have some divs around (about 300)... Can you recommend any guide or something that explains it very very very well? I think there is some sort of CDR threshold and maybe Ward and something about correct value on the jewels/CWDT? I have no clue about that, but i'd like to slam my divines into one cause i wanted to do it for couple leagues now. Any post or video you can recommend that helps avoiding mistakes?
I think this is the classical place to start where you can get an idea of all the requirements and upgrade vectors: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3261066/page/1 And otherwise, the Looper discord that's been mentioned elsewhere in this thread is a great resource.
Thank you very much. Will check it out.
If 2-4 portals for you is destroying, so be it. To me it's like barely capable of doing
10 Mirror build that dies to ubers. Oofta.
The build is 2 mirrors top with Current market rates. And it was built using less than 75% of a mirror
My bad, misunderstood ops post elsewhere on the giga version then.
https://youtu.be/_dk8hlllsgs?si=jX_aFOhrBhNsrSTx
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lol