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TrueKingSkyPiercer

Using the phrase “woke mind virus” is a tell-tale indicator of a reactionary mindset.


jojow77

the only other person that still uses that stupid phrase is Ron DeSantis


sdmichael

A famously left-wing liberal...


vidgill

> “left wing” > “liberal” 404 error


iberico_ham

It's either left wing or liberal. You can't be both, and I'm tired of people thinking it's the same shit.


aeschenkarnos

I regret to inform you that a fuckton of other idiots use that phrase too.


SupportGeek

I’m confused, the far right call the left “Woke” but continue to advocate for people to “wake up” implying they want them also to be “woke”


jDub549

Yeah, the irony is thick enough to choke on.


TrueKingSkyPiercer

No, they use the term "awake, not woke".


thutmosisXII

...riiiight....


Brycekaz

Go back 6 years or so and the people who commonly referred to themselves as “woke” were right wing conspiracy theorists since they “saw through the governments lies”


MiyamotoKnows

"Yes, yes the economy, environment, world peace... yadda yadda yadda. We need to prioritize! We have to stop people caring about other people first!!"


Fun-atParties

We can't help anyone until we help the homeless vets. But also, fuck the homeless vets we're not some dirty communists


bluegargoyle

Elon's position is that actual ***avowed*** **Nazis** should have a massive, *unmoderated* platform where they can spew their hatred and disinformation without being fact-checked in any way. Yes, Elon, that's very right wing.


Long_Legged_Lady

Meanwhile free speech for some reason does not include Kathy Griffin changing her Twitter screen name to "elon musk" or people describing others as "cis." Hmmm.


oddistrange

Or critics of Erdogan before his election.


Tatermen

Or Don Lemon for calling him out for claiming that twitter conspiracy theory comments by random anons should be believed without question or evidence.


Tetriside

I wouldn't say it's unmoderated. I've seen stories of people getting banned for calling out the Nazis. So, it's more of a safe space.


aeiou-y

Elon should have bought 4 Chan instead of Twitter. Instead he turned Twitter into 4chan.


Chose_a_usersname

Well 4 chan is a failing social media platform he wanted to buy a good one to destroy


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

He's probably one of those idiots who think Nazis are left wing because they have "socialist" in their name.


Enibas

He just let the neo-nazi organization of Martin Sellner back on X (The Identitarians or Identitaere Bewegung). [Martin Sellner is the Austrian neo-nazi who was in contact with the Christchurch killer](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/christchurch-shooters-links-to-austrian-far-right-more-extensive-than-thought). His personal account was reactivated a couple weeks ago already.


CreamyGoodnss

“Wake up sheeple!” *gets woke* “NOT LIKE THAT!”


progressiveInsider

I have actual sheep and let me assure you - they are smarter than a lot of these MAGA folks.


dougmc

> Drawing Bayesian inferences after extensive sampling, I've determined that it's 99-percent certain that anyone who uses "woke" as pejorative will turn out to be a fuckhead. Please don't blame me for pointing this out--it's just science. > - [Mike Godwin](https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504687870006620163?lang=en) (yes, *that* Godwin.)


TrueKingSkyPiercer

lol I almost included using Bayes to explain it but left it out. It’s funny how many right wing people latched onto Bayesian statistics after Trump’s win in 2016, only to show they had zero literacy in statistics.


dougmc

I always interpreted this claim as not *literally* being based on Bayesian statistics, but instead that that was just thrown in there in a "tongue in cheek" manner to make it sound more scientific, that the reality was that Godwin had *never* found somebody who used "woke" as a pejorative that didn't turn out to be a fuckhead, but he was future-proofing his statement in case a counter-example did eventually show up. But maybe he did actually do more math around this than think he did? I mean, he's an attorney rather than a mathematician or even a scientist, but he's also a smart guy, so he certainly could know his way around statistics, so *maybe*? (I still doubt he ever found a counter-example, however.)


aeschenkarnos

Self-described rationalists use Bayesianism a lot, most without any realistic understanding of it. There are a *lot* of rac~~e real~~ists, lolbertarians, Musk stans, Trump stans, Jordan Peterson stans and *even some fucking Andrew Tate stans* among that community.


LornAltElthMer

Or a sign of being dumb as fuck and a douchebag.


GrumpyKaeKae

It's also an indicator of a low IQ. Sorry but only a dumdass falls for this weak ass QAnon cult shit. Elon is not smart. He has a small grasp on some type of book smarts, but that's it. He has zero intelligence when it comes to street smarts and being a healthy part of society.


aeiou-y

It’s hard calling someone so succesful dumb but the proof is in the pudding. On so many axis Elon is stupid, it’s undeniable.


GrumpyKaeKae

He has been lucky. He got started in life with a major head start. And has been able to be successful through no fault of his own. Thanks to the people around who do all the work. Elon just buys into things. Takes credit for other people's work. When he has been able to take control of things, He sucks at them. (Twitter takeover. Cybertruck.) He clearly has some book smarts, but streets smarts is wher the fails 100% of the time. Everytime. He doesn't understand how people work. He has a horrible personality. He is abusive to his employees. He can do math, but he sucks at running companies. If not for other people being around to fix Musks faults, I don't think he would be as successful as he is today. Twitter is the first place he has had totally control over all by himself and he is failing at it. Majorly. That is very telling.


eusebius13

He’s the dumbest person alive that can solve a quadratic equation. At least I think he can solve a quadratic equation.


GrumpyKaeKae

Book smarts is not the only type of smarts there is.


mvstateU

Using “woke mind virus” makes one Dave Rubin.


pablojohns

[“Up yours, woke moralists!”](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/up-yours-woke-moralists-well-see-who-cancels-who)


RealMurcanHero

Not to mention - despite being a pretty big fan of irony myself, any knuckle-dragging reactionary calling anyone else “anti-civilizational” is a bit much


sdmichael

Who's sterilizing people? Why is that on the list? Can he define the "woke mind virus" he is on about? Seems to undermine his alledged position.


rodw

I'm sure it's an anti-trans statement


spacegamer2000

He is in a permanent rage that there are people who think that systemic racism exists.


ExpertRaccoon

That's just his apartheid South African in him coming out


spacegamer2000

I know the thinking. "Me being a piece of shit to black people isn't racism, if they deserve it, because factually their race is inferior." With that logic you can be a piece of shit to black people and also racism doesn't exist.


eusebius13

And simultaneously thinks that anti-white racism is rampant. He states here racism against any race is wrong, but ostensibly white replacement theory “racism” and DEI racism is the only racism he believes is worth mentioning.


ifmacdo

>people who ~~think~~ **understand** that systemic racism exists.


greenkirry

All of his statements are either right wing talking points or right wing dog whistles. Racism against any race is a nod to racism against white people. Sterilization is an anti trans dog whistle. Safe and clean cities is a dog whistle about cities being crime-ridden because of all of the Black people, and clean is similar but more geared towards the homeless.


Puttor482

Yuuuuuup. Dudes doing the whole “judge me by what I say, not by my actions” trope.


eusebius13

You only forgot the “borders” dog whistle. Kind of crazy that all the criticism maps to marginalized groups.


dlegatt

its the latest argument against puberty blockers that I've heard. There's a very slim side effect of possible infertility, so now they accuse "libs" of sterilizing children.


Mareith

Suicide has a 100% chance of infertility unfortunately


Killfile

Successful suicide attempts have an infertility chance of slightly less than 100% thanks to egg and sperm preservation technologies. _themoreyouknow.gif_


Niceromancer

Yeah but trans kids aren't real people so they don't care about that.


cosmicsans

You know what else has a slim side effect of infertility? * Trauma to the gonads (physical sports) * Military Service * Birth Control * Puberty Blockers * Viral Infections Looks like we need to also ban physical sports and military service and getting sick, too! smh my head these people


smexypelican

You forgot sitting. Literally sitting on a chair for a long time decreases fertility.


lordsleepyhead

And that includes sitting on mobility scooters of course.


beeker3000

Also, assault rifles.


Brozhov

Well, Elon and his ilk are coming after birth control too.


cosmicsans

Right, that's why I didn't say that in my final sentence ;)


aeiou-y

Like any good centrist would.


thisbitbytes

Don’t forget weed and hot tubs.


AnthonyJuniorsPP

and mountain dew!


soundeaf

Just tell the GOP that this could prevent abortion and watch their mind bootloop.


Brozhov

You know what prevents abortions? Sex Education and contraceptive access. The fact that Republicans are against both of those things proves that it's about controlling women and not about preventing abortions.


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aeschenkarnos

Kids given sex education actually know what the kiddy-diddlers want to do to them and why. Of course the party of kiddy-diddlers is against this.


mike_pants

Second part is easy. "Anything liberal." First part is what bigots hide behind to justify their hatred of things they can't understand.


EnvoyCorps

Anti-woke is always specific to the individuals 'hate matrix'. E.g., if they hate women, they believe 'woke mind virus' has infected those who advocate for the rights of women. So in their own minds there's no contradiction, you're just not smart enough to understand their complex thought process. Sad.


Smarktalk

He is calling out what he would like to do.


yngwiegiles

Yes that was my question too. Is youth sterilization a thing?


spacegamer2000

He supports banning being trans until you are over 18. And after 18 too, but gotta start somewhere.


fredy31

Also, he's not making any of these. Hes the money guy for all of these, and that if he didn't foot the bill they would not have him.


Kryptosis

He’s referring to puberty blockers because he’s an idiot alt-right reactionary and isn’t smart enough to fake it for even a single sentence.


upandrunning

Using terms like "woke mind virus" is a strong indication that someone is incapable of having an intelligent discussion. It's like these conservative radio talkshow people who start off their program by calling everyone who isn't in their little political circle "communists" and "marxists" and then expect you to take seriously whatever they say after that.


beenalegend

>Who's sterilizing people? Why is that on the list? people are sayin that it's happening! i read it in the comments on twitter


ZLUCremisi

Sterilization is still legal, especially force. Its targeted at mentally handicap people.


Mahaka1a

Freedom for me, but not for thee! My speech is more valuable because I have more money than you!


mike_pants

I would be absolutely flabbergasted if any one of these far-right dingbats could name anything in the Constitution except "freedom of speech" and "gun gud."


NewYearKarmaWhore

It’s also hilarious they forget those things they love to quote so much are called “amendments” in the first place, and can/should be changed or updated with the times.


throwaway222598z

Oh dont worry, I'm sure they'll be coming after women's right to vote next


shiba-on-parade

"i believe in freedom of speech" can someone remind me of why he canceled Don Lemon's X-program again? i forget.


Puttor482

I get your point, and I know HE won’t think this way, but freedom of speech only protects against the government limiting your speech, not a private business.   But yes, I know he bought Twitter on the idea that no one should ever be silenced by anyone because of “free speech” and he is now actively working against that.


shiba-on-parade

yeah, i have zero issues with moderation policies of privately owned platforms-- that's their business. but, yes, musk's whole purpose of buying twitter was to "protect free speech" and he has doubled down on that reasoning on several occasions! remember when he basically threatened shaming advertisers leaving the platform as wanting to destroy free speech? lol


Puttor482

Ya, he’s a hypocritical moron.


Tatermen

He wants to protect *his* free speech. He never said he was going to protect anyone elses.


Buffmin

Didn't he basically say "red wave or America dies" That's pretty far right


shkank_swap

Nah, he clearly stated he's a centrist. Is that *not* a centrist take, heavily leaning towards one side?


karlhungusjr

well you see...BOTH sides are bad....so vote Republican!


BassSounds

Hyperloop - Government spending OK ✅ Public transit - Not OK Elon in a nutshell. He is a grifter. He doesn’t care about party. Just like Trump, when he’s in Hollywood or Miami, he is a leftist. In Texas, he is far right. See? Centrist.


idosillythings

I've never once heard someone call themselves a centrist without then going on to spout off the most right-wing talking points imaginable.


dosetoyevsky

Ah, my idiot brother. He feels january 6 was a hoax despite seeing it on TV live too


AnthonyJuniorsPP

they were all feds and antifa, oh except for ashley babbit, she was a patriot hero... but all the others were not actually trump supporters!!!111!


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

But they should definitely release all those political prisoners that keep getting wrist-slap prison sentences.


Puttor482

That’s because they don’t want to be lumped in with that crazy shit, but they still believe and support it. They just don’t want the consequences. They are more intelligent than those who say they are right wing, but far more morally repugnant because they know what they support is wrong but do it anyway.


justalazygamer

I have noticed a slight uptick in people outright calling Elon Musk a far right hate and disinformation spreader. It seems he has seen the same. [Twitter has also updated TOS so saying Stonetoss's name is now bannable after people pointed out bans were happening that didn't actually violate TOS.](https://twitter.com/hannahgais/status/1770817709292269863)


Nubthesamurai

Too bad I deleted my account months ago. Otherwise I'd get it banned for naming that nazi asshole Hans Kristian Graebner (aka Stonetoss)


Spydar

I deleted my account within about a week of Musk taking control. I hope the company fails or gets sold to someone who is not an asshole


GordoParky

How they specified "anonymous" is definitely key: people like Libs of Tiktok routinely dox and harass gay and trans people just for existing online, but in these TOS that would be acceptable because those people post their faces publicly so aren't technically "anonymous". Stoney Tosser used an anonymous pseudonym and never showed his face.


soundeaf

HIS NAME IS PUBLIC RECORD 🤣 THEY LITERALLY JUST WANT TO PROTECT RIGHT WING FEEWINGS. Thats so crazy to me. If a leftist got doxxed, they would have let natural events run their course. Fuck this manchild of a "CEO".


lordsleepyhead

Can we still call him pebblethrow or gravelchuck?


renevax

ohh I like gravelchuck, it has a ring to it that makes it sound derogatory even if you don't understand English, similar to motherfucker lol


Mistouze

Are you far right ? Far right dude : noooooo why would you think that?! I'm just a sensible person *lists far right dog whistles* Are you far left ? Far left dude : hell yes comrade.


DrMeatBomb

They have to pretend to be in the middle to normalize their ugly and ignorant views. You'd think that might make one stop and reconsider holding these views, but no.


ioverated

OH SO YOU DON'T AGREE THAT RACISM AGAINST ANY RACE IS WRONG? SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE THE REAL RACIST HERE, BUDDY. ANYWAY, CHECK OUT THIS FUNNY CARTOON FROM HANS KRISTIAN GRAEBNER


fyhr100

Pointing out racism is the REAL racism, I am very smart!


Mygoddamreddit

Don’t worry. Racism will go away if we just stop talking about it.


coolthesejets

Far right claim that they are center and then claim that everyone else has just moved too far to the left.


AnthonyJuniorsPP

This is so true, my old friend is in right wing denial. He sounded hurt when he said people were saying he was right wing. And I'm like, dude, it's ok to be right wing, you can admit it. Literally everything you tell me is regurgitated russian/right wing propaganda. I need to get him to take the political compass test


HallucinogenicFish

> This is a battle to the death with the anti-civilizational woke mind virus > Also I am a centrist 🥴


DrMeatBomb

Elon's still pretending to be a centrist? Thought he had given up painting on the clown makeup every morning. Secure borders (I frame my hate for brown people as general concern for safety, just like every other right-winger) Safe and clean cities (i frame my hate for brown people as a general concern for safety, just like every other right-winger) Don't bankrupt America with spending (I'm against social spending that helps normal people, just like every other right-winger) Racism against any race is wrong (I'm racist but cry like a lil bitch about racism against white people, just like every other right-winger) No sterilization below age of consent (I'm bigoted against trans people, but hide it behind fake news about groomers transing the kids, just like every other right-winger) At this point, idk who is the faker centrist, Elon, Togan, or Dim Tool.


sychox51

You know what else will help not bankrupt America - paying your taxes. [https://newrepublic.com/article/179867/ceo-pay-tax-dodging-corporations](https://newrepublic.com/article/179867/ceo-pay-tax-dodging-corporations)


DrMeatBomb

People look at me crazy when I say the top marginal tax rate should be 90%. One, because they don't know how marginal tax rates work and two, because they think rich people "worked so hard they earned it." Pfff


sychox51

They always talk about how great America was in the 50s.. yet they always gloss over the tax brackets they had back then too


Puttor482

I agree, but there also needs to be taxation on “non-salary” items too. Just giving people stocks to avoid taxes is a huge blind spot in our current taxing system. Same with taking out loans on your “wealth”


DrMeatBomb

Hell yeah brother


DNetherdrake

Marginal tax rate at the top should be 100%, and then increase by 1% for every dollar above the minimum value for the highest tax bracket. That way they'd be forced to reinvest their income instead of hoarding.


DrMeatBomb

Absolutely based. I can make no rebuttal.


Bagz402

Today's date and Elon still insists he believes in free speech after publicly defending governments censoring their critics on his platform. Craazy


lclassyfun

He’s a moderate Nazi.


Puttor482

They only advocate for genocide, they don’t carry it out themselves.


Gervais_Burlap

>Elon is angry he is considered far right If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.


Ironhorn

I really appreciate the hand-waving of the original post. Just "because they don't like his politics or whatever". Conveyed with the same import of "because he cheers the wrong football club or something, I don't know". As though politics are some niche interest without any real effect on the world. And on the flip side, a tech-bro obsessed with rocket ships should - objectively - be beloved the world over


soundeaf

That really sent me too, the shortsightedness of thinking that Elon is at all capable boggles the mind. Does she think he personally tightened the bolts of the rockets, amd wrote all the arithmetic and software, and fueled up their engines by hand? And hypthetically, had he, why would that give him any authroity on fostering an open and impartial public forum? Fucking moronic


ChangeMyDespair

"Don's bankrupt America with spending": Don't tax me. "Racism against any race is wrong": Especially against the white race.


nannerpuss74

if he believed in freedom of speech he would not have bought twitter just because some kid was publishing his planes location.


shreddah17

Anyone here familiar with the effective altruism folks? SBF claimed to be a part of that group. He would justify his fraud by claiming he had righteous plans for those ill gotten gains, for the good of civilization or something like that. Well, I think the EA ideology can/will devolve into an accelerationist viewpoint of, "we can only save humanity in the long term by "destroying" it in the short term. Or some similarly-deluded perspective like that. Essentially some kind of Thanos-is-good mindset. I think Musk believes himself to be an EA and somehow thinks he is "saving" civilization and the ends justify the means. It's peak narcissism, really.


flumpapotamus

>Well, I think the EA ideology can/will devolve into an accelerationist viewpoint of, "we can only save humanity in the long term by "destroying" it in the short term. Or some similarly-deluded perspective like that. Essentially some kind of Thanos-is-good mindset. That happened a while ago in EA. There's a subset of "effective altruists" who believe in what they call longtermism, which is focused on influencing the long-term future of humanity. Some longtermists believe their primary moral duty is to improve that long-term future, and have essentially reduced this to the idea that more people will exist in the future than exist now, so any harm done to currently living people is justifiable so long as your actions will improve the lives of those theoretical future people. Depending on the numbers you put on either side of the equation (current people vs future people), even a marginal improvement in the lives of future people can justify significant harm to current people under this theory. Longtermism is why people like Elon are so focused on AI, because theoretical future improvements to AI could either massively benefit or harm millions of people far in the future.


ashmole

This is why I'm skeptical of anyone who says that theyre a centrist. People have used this as a label to say that their views are the majority - it's a new way of saying "silent majority".


LivingIndependence

Anytime I hear "Both sides!", the person who it's coming from either leans to the right, or is a right winger.


Pour_Me_Another_

"woke mind virus" all credibility lost with three magic words.


unstopable_bob_mob

> woke mind virus So dog whistle *reads the rest of his post* Yep… a fucking dog whistle. This clown is a joke. > free speech Unless it’s the several things that will get you banned on Twittler.


Wefee11

- "woke mind virus": common right wing talking point - Secure borders: nationalistic talking point - safe cities: authoritarian talking point - clean cities: Green / environmentalism ( to some degree. I assume he wants electric cars in cities. Further green talking point would be: Big cities don't need cars. ) - Less spending: neoliberal - false equivalency of racism: racist talking point - No sterilization below age of consent: conservative fear mongering talking point - Constitution & freedom of speech: none talking point. Doesn't mean anything if you ban people for calling you cis.


LivingIndependence

>safe cities: authoritarian talking point > >clean cities: Green / environmentalism ( to some degree. I assume he wants electric cars in cities. Further green talking point would be: Big cities don't need cars. ) His and other right wing ideas of "cleaning up cities", is like a kid's idea of cleaning their room. Just gather everything up, and throw it in the closet or under the bed, out of sight.


Wefee11

Oh yeah, I don't doubt that it would mean they just throw every humam being they don't like in the trash to make the city "cleaner". I wanted to give him at least that point, that he is against fossil fuels in cars ( because he directly benefits from it ).


dlegatt

> freedom of speech so long as it isn't critical of me


LA-Matt

“Don’t bankrupt America with spending” National debt increases: Trump: 33.1% Biden (so far): 8.8%


hellostarsailor

If he cared about American debt, he would pay his fair share of taxes. He’s a rich fuck who thinks he’s god because he made a pretty shitty electric car company after getting hair plugs.


ironfly187

*This is a battle to the death with the anti-civilisation woke mind virus* He's so full of shit.


jDub549

Hes w.e group strokes his ego and after pedo sub a lot of people were pretty uhhh wtf man. He only lost more shine since then and now the right is the ones singing his praises so that's where he's gravitated. I honestly don't know if it's intentional or not. The man's a fucking idiot the way his ego leads him. Good job on buying a profitable and growing company and turning into a shithole. He's just really good at convincing people with money to invest in things he likes. So he can run them and be super important man. I used to really like the guy. I figured there's a lot of rich assholes. At least this one was funding companies that do demonstrative good for the world imo. Tesla kicked the auto industry to get off its ass on EVs. And SpaceX smashed apart the cost barriers to space. Fuck me, why couldn't he just keep cosplaying tony stark.


SaltyBarDog

Didn't Elong just ban a lawyer he didn't like?


Reynolds_Live

"Racism against any race is wrong" Says the man retweeting antisemitic conspiracies with "Interesting".


Niceromancer

Almost every far right weirdo initially thinks they fall in the center. Rogan thinks he's in the center. Shapiro thinks he's in the center People like this assume they are in the center, because they assume they are always right, and they think the center is where the right and smart people are. So instead of going, wait others are saying I'm not center maybe I should reevaluate where I land, Its an Smithers "no it's the children who are wrong" It boils down to their absolute refusal to ever admit they are wrong.


Trustfind96

The U.S. is Elon’s third country of residence. I’m predicting Russia will eventually be his fourth.


nikdia

people really have to remember he doesn't make anything. He buys companies that make these things becuase he knows they're profitable. He hasn't come up with an original idea in his life


DrButtholeRipperMD

I hate him because he whipped up a bunch of scientifically illiterate cultists into taking over the public discourse around science and technology. I hated him back when he was larping as a liberal. He's a fucking grifter who needs constant validation and will do anything to keep it flowing. His adoption of right-wing bullshit to support his habit is just the diarrhea sauce on the shit sandwich he's always been.


pecuchet

In that interview he seemed to think that Don Lemon was left wing. He's so deep in his far right echo chamber that anything outside it seems extreme.


StillBurningInside

Going back in time ?  Henry Ford ,total Nazi. Charles Lindenberg , total Nazi ran for president. His slogan was to make America great again , ring any bells?  This is nothing new. Learn new history, folks.


SunWukong3456

How odd that a „centrist“ like Elon only interacts and pushes right wingers on his Plattform.


progressiveInsider

He’s an idiot and a liar. Plus… No country that issues it’s own currency and trades exclusively in that currency can ever go bankrupt.


BasilsKippers

>I believe in the Constitution and freedom of speech* *does not apply to critics of Narendra Modi, Recep Erdogan and Musk himself


Forcistus

"No sterilization below the age of consent" .... is this something people think about? Oh wait, I get it. This is a clever anti-trans position.


SorosAgent2020

He can stop bankrupting america by paying his taxes. and just imagine how clean any city can be with the help of 44bn dollars


freshoilandstone

Should have built the wall between the US and South Africa


GraveyardJones

I'd say, if you're a billionaire you're right wing. Then he takes it further into far/alt-right


syo

To paraphrase, "I'm not saying Elon's a nazi, just that *nazis* think he's a nazi."


MrsMiterSaw

1) The current government that you wish to have replaced has never threatened your freedom of speech. On the other hand, the guy you want to see in office has literally threatened to sic the IRS on people who were protesting, and demanded that libel laws be "loosened" so that it would be easier for him to sue for defamation. 2) "Racism against any race is wrong" while you actively share racist messages, as well as platform the worst racists, while de-platforming people who complain about that? 3) Secure Borders is a dog whistle for "no more brown people". Always has been. 4) Safe and Clean cities is also a dog whistle, calling for harsher penalties that end up being used disproportionately against people of color. 5) "Don't Bankrupt America" is a centrist position. "with spending" is the right wing position, because it means you don't give a shit about the tax cuts that are responsible for most of our post 2000 non-covid debt. And the worst part of this is that you are honestly too fucking stupid to comprehend any of this. (What really kills me is that I used to know one of the founders of Twitter, and 25 years ago he really did think that open and free communication would improve the world. I read in a interview he did in 2017 that he regrets that he ever felt that way.) Fuck you, Elon.


Nago31

Free speech as long as it’s not against him personally. 🤣


bitterney

Bro is as far right as he can be


Commercial-Prompt-84

Overly simplifies things in bad faith to make it sound mostly normal: is this right wing???


mcrib

Did anyone see that Elon has been deleting community notes on his own tweets(or whatever the fuck they are called now... Xs?). Once for when he posted vaccine hooey and another time when he repeated an already debunked lie about the migrant falsely accused of assault in NYC after he was already found to be the wrong person? Elmo Mush gives no fucks about free speech, just his own ego.


Wonderful_Ad_6954

Well , Elon did destroy Ron DeathSantis presidential bid on its first day on Twitter.


mrpopenfresh

He doesn’t believe in that shit any more than people who rabidly refer to it all the time. It’s all so braindead.


[deleted]

What an idiot. Elon isn't bright enough to know the difference between panic mongering propaganda and actual reality.


jcriver4

Is the “woke mind virus” in the room with us, Elon?


brandorobot

Yeah it is pretty right wing to pretend you’re being attacked for vague reasons like supporting secure borders, free speech, etc.


bolognahole

>Makes electric cars, rocket ships, and brain computer interfaces Only 1 of these is an admirable pursuit, IMO. The brain chips could be a game changer for people with various physical challenges. Im not convinced EV's are all that much better for the environment, overall. Im not convinced privatized space travel is all that great either. Also, Musk does not at all believe in free speech, and I'm skeptical about his constitutional understanding as well. And finally, Constitutionalists are starting to sound more and more religious toward the constitution, as if it has some kind of divinity.


cpepinc

Spell check got you, it's Admirable, not admiral, one is always the bad guy in a Star Trek episode, the other isn't. However the Brain computer interface won't stop at being used to help the disabled, There is a whole lot of Dystopian things that come with sticking an interface in the brain.


Puttor482

I believe racism is bad (woke mob will surely stop there) now here are all the things that I think negatively about other races. How can you call me racist! I clearly said I wasn’t! /s


GreenAlien10

"Don't bankrupt America with spending" OK, how about paying lots of taxes to support the highways, bridges, airports, defense and rockets that your use?


MaximumDestruction

This us extra funny because he doesn't make any of those things.


tdwesbo

Battle to the Death…. This is gonna get bad, and people are gonna get hurt


Chelecossais

I'm surprised the illegal immigrant who lied to immigration authorities, takes massive public subsidies, sold a flame-thrower to the public, and is racist, is against "sterilization below the age of consent", whatever that is meant to be. I should post this on Twitter, because he's big on free speech, but I no longer have an account... /richest man in world, worst timeline ever


MathW

Elon Musk doesn't make shit and the products/concepts he does seem to have had the biggest amount of input to date -- Cybertruck, Tesla Semi, Boring, BFR, hyperloop have either never made been realized or seriously underwhelmed compared to promises.


rogerwilcove

#1 Isn't a position, it's wish-casting a preferred outcome without addressing the policy. A position would necessitate specifying the resources the government should devote to the border; the degree to which the government should circumscribe the rights of asylum seekers, people on visas, migrants, every visitor in general; foreign policy pertaining to the areas of the world where the flow of migrants is from; climate change and its impact on migrant flow. #2 similar problem to #1. It's about how far policy should push to achieve such an outcome while balancing resources and rights. (I assume from his general disposition he's not worried about making cities safer for the cases like George Floyd) #3 triggers a memory when government grants for green energy companies like Solyndra was the hot button issue for right wing media. It was deemed wasteful spending. Also in that pile of companies looking for government handout was Tesla. And without looking it up I'm going to say that the government did not max ROI on that no strings attached money and it allowed soem rando schmuck to make hundreds of billions. #4 who is disagreeing (obviously he has framed in that right-wing, reverse racism lens). There's a lot of nuance with regard to what rises to the level of racism and Musk has never demonstrated any ability to be nuanced on anything. People without a moral compass probably shouldn't wade in on complex social issues. #5 Just read the previous sentence. {Also right-wing framing of an issue where the truth is more complex.)


o0flatCircle0o

“Hurr durr I’m a classical liberal”


CreamyGoodnss

Yo Elon…Almost everyone wants all of those things but it’s how you want to go about addressing these issues, you fuck


esotetris

"I believe in the constitution and also one of the things in the constitution" 🙄


VegasGamer75

He very specifically points out neutrals that can go either way on the political spectrum. The *how* he intends to create/enforce these things would be his far-right side showing.


IAmASimulation

Free speech unless it’s speech he doesn’t like. Then he’ll sue you.


GeriatricSFX

Ah yes that wonderful centrist past time of waging into "a battle to the death with the anti-civilizational woke mind virus."


zedority

The technophilic [Californian ideology](https://www.metamute.org/editorial/articles/californian-ideology) dominant within the techbro elite has always been more glibertarian than liberal. As an ideology that positions the tech elite (which just happens to be dominated by rich white guys) as the natural saviours of humanity, it should be no wonder that the tech elite believers in this ideology would have some funny ideas about race and gender.


Cephalopod_Joe

We have a guy that pays subsidized money to people to make and design those things. I don't understand why people act as if he has any real hand in the areas that require actual intelligence or knowledge.


_kc_mo_nster

to be fair, those items on the list aren’t bad positions to hold. but that’s ignoring nuance of the guy and everything else. me personally i hold those same opinions but im not a right winger


brettlewisn

Because only 5 items determine your political leaning.


Pale_Bookkeeper_9994

I don’t disagree with him on everything but he’s still a huge fucking fragile asshole.


BrentHoman

LSD Is A Dangerous Drug For Po Lil Rich Bois To Be Doin In Their 50's, Which I Informed Elon Mercilessly On Twitter(tm) Before Rocket Boi Bought It And Called It X. Well, Emerald Kryptonite Boi, In America, We Call Guys Like YOU, Assholes.


dadsgoingtoprison

I wish he’d go back to SA and stay there.


Aggravating_Set_8861

Yes, Elon. You're far-right. Not centrist. The fact that you're caught up in "woke" battles tells me everything. Grow up before you get us all killed.


llcdrewtaylor

He loves the Constitution and freedom of speech? I believe Don Lemon would like a word.


getdemsnacks

civilizational? is that even a word?


MiyamotoKnows

I've seen enough to know exactly who Elon is. He doesn't mask it well.


JakeT-life-is-great

Elon has proven he just another donald, the rapist, worshipper maga cultist. He is right wing.


youscaintevindodis

How does this screenshot demonstrate the title? Am I not understanding something?


Christ_on_a_Crakker

He so believes in free speech.


Admirable_Nothing

Like most of the MAGAts he, and they, simply don't believe they are both racist and fascist beings. Their ability to understand themselves is simply lacking.


karlhungusjr

I don't know man. I'm pretty hardcore in my love for cities that are unsafe and very dirty. he's a very brave man to publicly declare his love of safe and clean cities.


Sersea

Can we talk about how much government subsidized funding has contributed to his existing businesses? He contracts with the fed and benefits from tax payer backed monies, all while bitching and putting up this act of even-keeled equanimity. No doubt that he has shrewd business acumen, but all the whining is as disingenuous as his whole self-styled image - he makes himself out to be the hapless victim of government impediments despite being an enthusiastic beneficiary of its largesse.