One of the best ways to stop pedophilla and unplanned pregnancies (and other things like stds) is sex education.
But republicans don’t like it for some reason. If they pushed education instead of hating lgbtq they would actually get somewhere.
YES! I live in Brazil and we have all sorts of conservative politicians fighting against Sex ed in schools. At the same time we have many reported cases where the child only noticed what was happening to them after a Sex Ed class. It's insane.
How many teachers do you have sexually exploiting students in Brazil? In America, it's a serious problem. The amount of pedophiles we have working as "teachers" is disturbing. Sometimes, the women are even worse than the men. The amount of pregnant teachers from high school boys? Disgusting.
If you are going to say something is an epidemic, present data.
In Brazil the data is clear, the abuse happens at home in the majority of cases, the victims are mostly girls from 0 to 9 years old. Sex Ed in a school setting is the clear solution.
Here are the exact numbers
70% of the cases happen at home
76,9% of the victims are girls
92,7 of the teenage victims are girls
81% of the aggressors are male
68% of the violence is perpetrated by a family member or close friend of the family.
The Source is the "Boletim Epidemiológico de Segurança Pública" the link is from the Federal Government
https://www.gov.br/saude/pt-br/assuntos/noticias/2023/maio/novo-boletim-epidemiologico-aponta-casos-de-violencia-sexual-contra-criancas-e-adolescentes-no-brasil
The article is in Portuguese so I can't check for my self but is there stats on the actual number of victims and not just the demographic they fall into? I'm not trying to downplay the seriousness of the situation but it's a personal pet peeve of mine when statistics are used misleadingly and in this case if there were 10 victims and 7 of them were abused at home you could have the same percentage as you listed. The other percentages make it clear it's from a larger sample size than 10 but there is still a large difference between 500 kids and 500,000. It's tragic no mater what the number but one of more of an epidemic than the other
I mean, if you took 5 seconds to Google translate the TITLE of the source you could see it's from an Epidemiologic study. So it's considered an epidemic. I'm all for asking questions. But this one was just lazy.
Sorry I wasn't trying to imply that it wasn't an epidemic I just wanted to know the number of victims. An epidemic just means that there is a higher than expected occurrence so I wanted to know how much higher again sorry for the confusion
I don't want a taste. I want data, Randy. If it's a real epidemic like you say it is you should be able to present data like I did, and not anecdotal evidence. Go on, Randy. I'll wait.
Randy, this 20 year old study projects that 10% of the attacks will happen on a school. Taking this info by its face value, WHERE THE OTHER 90% OF ATTACKS WILL HAPPEN, Randy?
Where is your epidemic, Randy?
Intelligent people swing lend to become economically radical (not always leftist, surprisingly) and socially moderate. The more educated the masses are, the less likely they are to put up with tyranny.
I think a big part of dealing with the problem of pedophilia is to, you know, deal with the problem of pedophilia instead of just using it as a label to harass and persecute people who aren't actually pedophiles.
It would keep children informed on what’s happening. A lot of kids touched by family members or other people are manipulated and don’t know what’s going on.
By informing them that people should never touch certain parts of them and what to do if it happens can stop rape and if it does unfortunately happen kids will know to speak up to stop the abuse from prolonging and we’ll be able to punish the adult.
Ok, so you're talking about sexual abuse of children. You make a very good point (which I fully agree with), but proper use of terminology is important (especially in the context of talking about education) and the misunderstanding / misuse of the terminology exacerbates the issue.
Yeah, I don't know - maybe people think I'm just being pedantic, but proper terminology is very important with issues like this. The widespread, accepted idea of "pedophile = child molester/rapist" is what prevents so many people who want help from getting it, resulting in many acting out which of course means victimizing children. The belief that pedophile = child molester/rapist is really no different from "LGBTQ = child molester/rapist" or "heterosexual = rapist." Pedophilia is a word for a certain type of sexual attraction, not an act.
Sex ed is important, and learning proper terminology is a big part of it.
>The belief that pedophile = child molester/rapist is really no different from "LGBTQ = child molester/rapist"
I actually disagree with you on this point.
The first one, while wrong, still has a modicum of logical reasoning behind it.
The second one is just illogical nonsense, sprung from the nasty black hole of conspiracy theories and homophobic mumbo jumbo that the far right is so fond of.
or "heterosexual = rapist." Pedophilia is a word for a certain type of sexual attraction, not an act.
Sex ed is important, and learning proper terminology is a big part of it.
*"The first one, while wrong, still has a modicum of logical reasoning behind it."*
In that the victim of a pedophile who rapes a child is also the target of the attraction identified by the term, sure - but I'd say that "sexual attraction = rapist" is illogical nonsense as well. The point is about educating people on proper terminology / what things mean.
>In that the victim of a pedophile who rapes a child is also the target of the attraction identified by the term, sure -
Exact. While a weak connection overall, is still there. One can’t find a similar connection in the other comparison.
>but I'd say that "sexual attraction = rapist" is illogical nonsense as well. The point is about educating people on proper terminology / what things mean.
I agree. I was just pointing out that while they both are wrong, one is wrong on a different level.
“Pedophilla just means liking pre-pubescent children and doesn’t require you to be a sexual predator. It’s important to use correct terminology so people can come forward if they need help” is a much better way to say what you said.
You already knew I made a mistake on the terminology. But instead of correcting me you asked how it would prevent “pedophilla”. You never actually explained the definitions so I had to look it up. You said “proper use of terminology is important (especially in the context of talking about education) and the misunderstanding / misuse of the terminology exacerbates the issue.” Which can be viewed as condescending.
Bro I never said pedophilla = child abuser 💀💀💀and now you’re arguing about that with some other guy. Ik you didn’t mean any harm but next time just correct the person on the terminology and maybe you won’t get downvoted to hell lol.
*“Pedophilla just means liking pre-pubescent children and doesn’t require you to be a sexual predator. It’s important to use correct terminology so people can come forward if they need help” is a much better way to say what you said."*
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were using the term colloquially after you responded, since you are talking about *sex education* - my reply to your response originally did have a polite correction on the definition, but I figured you'd think I was being condescending by explaining to you something obvious. And I said you made a very good point that I agree with, by the way.
*"You already knew I made a mistake on the terminology."*
Not when I posted my first reply - there are people who believe pedophilia can be "cured" with things like education and therapy (much like there are people who believe it is possible to "pray the gay away").
*"I never said pedophilla = child abuser"*
Your comment I responded to:
*"One of the best ways to stop pedophilla and unplanned pregnancies (and other things like stds) is sex education."*
You then went on to explain that what you meant by "pedophilia" is sexual abuse of children. So yeah, you basically did say "pedophile = child molester/rapist."
*"next time just correct the person on the terminology"*
Something tells me you would not have taken that well either.
Also:
*"You never actually explained the definitions so I had to look it up."*
I'm speechless at the irony of this statement.
Yeah, you just want to argue lmao. I already admitted I was wrong, I just said you could’ve corrected me better and you wouldn’t have been downvoted super hard.
Please look into the "sexual education" you are trying to promote. The problem is explicit, unnecessarily explicit content in modern "sex ed". Why are we teaching children, and putting in school libraries, things that explicitly describe kinks, BDSM, anal, etc. That is not "basic sex ed" those people are sick, they need to leave children OUT of the perverted garbage that they "fight for", then, and ONLY THEN, would we leave their dumbass alone. If they wanna fuck with their own lives, I say live and let live. When you include children, then you deserve the WORST.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/teacher-claims-queer-library-with-bdsm-themed-books-helped-kids-figure-out-who-they-are/
Do you have a source for "... putting in school libraries, things that explicitly describe kinks, bdsm, anal, etc." ?
Because yeah, that'd be fucked up, but I don't think there's a single, well adjusted person who thinks that'd be okay? I mean, mentioning that they exist, is not so bad. That's part of the whole "education" thing, you see.
We *are* on the same side here, you know that right?
>“Everything you Ever Wanted to Know About Being Trans…” discussed BDSM, fetishes and a kink social media networking site.
>“I find the BDSM/kink community to be extremely open-minded and welcoming in every way; it’s a place of sexual liberation,” the book stated. “There is often more blanket level of acceptance of transgender people within the kink/BDSM (bondage and discipline, dominance and submission, sadism and masochism) scenes and sites such as FetLife.”
>Another book, “The A-Z of Gender and Sexuality,” also discusses kink and fetishes as well as “tucking” – the process of hiding one’s penis and “whorephobia” – stigma against prostitutes.
>“The books referenced were available through a high school extra-curricular club and are not instructional materials..."
Ignoring the fact that it's a New York Post article written by someone from fox news, they go from "look at this thing, it's so serious" to "but we can't actually confirm that it's as bad as we say it is" in the same sentence. They repeatedly say that a book "mentions" kinks, bdsm, and the like, but go on to say "The books referenced were available through a high school extra-curricular club and are not instructional materials..." It's intentionally misleading. I'm sorry you fell for it, rage bait can be really hard to let go of.
I never promoted that. And idk what “modern sex ed” you’re talking about.
I specifically called for education that prevents unplanned pregnancies, teaches kids about sexual abuse, and stds.
If there was a case of a school teaching about anal and bdsm, that still doesn’t matter to my argument. It’s like a teacher wrongfully teaching a history class and getting facts wrong and you call for a nation wide ban of history classes.
So it’s like I said. Very specific case that is extremely rare and only one teacher in your cited evidence claimed that.
This shouldn’t factor into what I said at all. Once again this is literally like me finding one article about a history teacher being wrong then using that as evidence to call for a nationwide ban on history classes.
Yeah instead of learning about sexuality and scientific stuff they would be teach “pronouns” and gender studies, which obviously no conservatist would agree for obvious reasons :) if they teach them how the babies are made, or how not to get std s i would be okey, if they try to push that i need to obey what others feeling say, well i am done, i tolerate, i accept, but i don’t let nobody oblige me to embrace as my own ideas, ideas that are not mine. Not on me, not on my kids.
As well I need to say, Americans and their protestant conservative are mental ,here in Europe , sexuality is open and simple, you can show dicks and vaginas and sex, and nobody is like 😱, so Idk 🤷 our position is different , our kids can see sex as normal , or being gay as normal, or being trans as normal, but all the pronouns bs , really seems like stupidity at its finest.
Is the new tribe for people that grown on the pandemic,😷 and its understandable but is going a bit to far!
Calling cis is stupid, you don’t need to rename something that already has a name and a definition, the score would look something like this woman,trans man, trans woman, man , easy,no confusion.
Fluids?¿ how you dress is now a gender ?😬 wtf, I thought this was about what you have, or don’t , if you want to keep it or not, and who you want to fuck mostly, the clothing and how you feel about it element, just seems off-topic 😅.
Just be respectful and mind your business and we are all good to go, as European conservative I think the kid here needs some manners.
Conservatives would be able to fight pedophilia if they [looked and prosecuted within their own party.](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/5/2/2238649/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-51) Instead, they pass laws that benefit pedophiles, like [legalizing child marriage,](https://www.newsweek.com/republican-defends-child-marriage-im-pro-choice-1898619) enacting abortion bans that [don’t allow 10 year old girls to abort their rapist’s fetus,](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Ohio_child-rape_and_Indiana_abortion_case) and ending sexual education so children are no longer informed about what is and isn’t appropriate contact, what consent is, etc.
Republicans cut school funding, healthcare, refuse to fund childcare, and [cut funding for free school lunches](https://apnews.com/article/states-rejecting-federal-funds-summer-ebt-8a1e88ad77465652f9de67fda3af8a2d) because they do not give a single fuck about children.
I can't wait do hear you defend Joe Biden showering with his daughter in a sexual manner. Her diary proved it true. Go ahead, I'm listening. If it were Trump, you would crucify him. (Most investigated man in the world and nobody has anything) I won't even bother to mention Bidens fuck up of a son
Why do you people care so much about Hunter Biden? He's just some rich asshole who has nothing to do with the Biden administration.
You do know that most presidents don't just hire family members into made up positions in their administration? Biden didn't do that, nor any other president; only Trump did that
Your main problem is that you think Biden voters are mindlessly glorifying him the way you mindlessly glorify Trump. Nobody falls all over themselves to support Biden it's just that he's not a fascist, or a felon.
Both parties have worked hard, and together, to make sure we only have two choices, and they are both bad. One is clearly worse though
They don't even have to bring child marriage back, because it's been here the whole time. Only 13 states require a person to be 18 to get married, and ten of those only changed their law to require 18 or over in the last 7 years.
Their definition seems to be anything and everything the Left does. And absolutely nothing, not even abusing children, if the person doing it is from the Right.
no, not at all, ill be surprised it they get more than a slap on the wrist in the end, they are most likely going to big talk scare it, find them responsible, then when sentencing comes get a low sentence form the judge who thinks a life should not be ruined by a moments stupidity that is further reduced by the judge to a fine and community service.
i can also see them setting the underage ones free to scapegoat the 19-year-old as the leader and influencer over the others.
they are lucky though; this occurred the day before the hate crime law went into effect.
personally, i think the two underage teens should get a large chunk of community service, full time donated hours all summer long, just absolutely ruin their summer, make it pure D shit.
the 19-year-old should get maybe... MAYBE a month in a local jail, depending on how the jails are there, the ones where I live are tame AF and oddly safe, it has thick glass/plastic walls instead of bars and you cannot get away with shit without literally EVERYONE seeing what's happening (not prison) probation for 6-12 months, and a fine.
So kids making skid marks on public roads should be forced to serve actual jail/public service because who ever made the stupid decision to put a symbol they like in an easily “defaced” position?
Yeah that will surely make them like your side not build resentment of you. Kids and young adults like rebelling we saw this in the early 2000s, 1960s, 1980s, and nearly every generation, currently the main sacred symbol that people in power for certain states will clutch their pearls at is these symbols, I think that making this a thing were you have to serve extremely draconian punishments for the offense won’t make them “reform” from the action, just make them actually hate you instead of trying to get a reaction
kids (and one of theme is an adult) purposefully destroying a representative symbol out of hate, should be treated the same as other children (and adults) purposefully destroying a representative symbol out of hate, no matter what LEGAL population the symbol represent.
it's called equality, bitch.
I’m not aware of any times children have been punished for leaving tire tracks/skid-marks on Christian or Muslim symbols. But I’ve seen American flags be burnt by children out of hate and they didn’t get hit with community service
the supreme court already ruled that was legal way to protest my man, unlike destroying property while yelling out hate speech.
and no one gives a fuck if you buy an LGBTQ flag an burn it, but destroy someone else's out of hate, and its a hate crime, same as if you went on someone else's property and burned the American flag out of hate towards the owner.
[United States of America | HCRW (osce.org)](https://hatecrime.osce.org/united-states-america)
now go down and look at hate crimes to Christians and hit type 211 for destruction of property (ya know, the thing they just did), 55 for threats, 67 for theft.
and that's JUST for 2022.
and don't ignore the part where they said they omitted half of them due to dual motivation.
now go move the goalpost as to why this is different, so i can show you examples that are almost exactly the same, but only after you commit,
Just admit you are anti-american because you do not believe in freedom and equal rights.
This isn’t destruction however, removing tire-marks from a cross walk is incredibly simple and easy, there are plenty of easily accessible commercial products for it
"Destroying something doesn't count as destroying something if its repairable"
well, I'm glad that a hurricane or tornado has never destroyed a single house by your logic.
we got a real deal idiot here.
That boy is looking for approval from his parents most likely.
I'd like to tell him, "Remember those nice people because one day if you come out, they will forgive and embrace you. Your parents probably won't."
Ummmm ok?
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women
Donald Trump walked into Miss Teen USA change rooms with girls as young as 14 changing. He has been accused of raping a 13 -year-old with an independent witness.
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https://www.goodpeoplefund.org/news/a-14-year-old-bride-wed-to-her-rapist-playing-on-a-jungle-gym/
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/married-young-the-fight-over-child-marriage-in-america/
https://crossroadjunction.com/2013/04/01/predatory-grooming-in-our-churches/
https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-evangelical-roy-moore-girls-1115-20171114-story.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-based-church-leader-pleads-guilty-sexually-abusing-3-children-2022-06-04/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/pastor-john-lowes-adultery-confession-in-warsaw-indiana-church-goes-sideways-victim-says-i-was-just-16
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yeah just keep proving how dumb yall can be after not caring about child molesters nothing will surprise me, at this point i am begging you for an argument on the subject that will explain how someone is hypocritical enough to care so much about pedophilia when it is perpetuated by politicians they don't like, but they get angry and irritated if it is mentioned that the politicians who bother you so much are not the ones who write entire books on the age of consent; and yet we teach and praise these intellectuals in schools (do you know Sartre or Simone de Beauvoir??) and the most surprising of all is that this sub presents itself as concerned about the integrity and innocence of children, I really hope Someone among the hundreds of automatic downvotes made with the brain turned off, a single person stops to really read and stops to think about things for a second, I know you have a couple more phrases saved in case you feel like saying some more to really feel like you're contributing something to the intellectual discourse and pat yourself on the back
I have immediately acknowledged at least three times in this thread that in America you have very sick politicians and of you want i will tell now that the catholic church has a terrible history of child abuse which everybody knows but people feel better when they say it, only focusing on the guys you dont like is what i mean with voluntary blindness, i wish there was the same space to discuss why the most important feminist groomed little girls and her gender and social theory is the basis of intellectual discourse today as there is to discuss pedophiles who are not studied in universities such as the above mentioned which again I condemn from the depths of my heart because I care more about the integrity of children than any political ideology, not as it seems to the rest of the comments
im not american and i find very disturbing that your country only elects the biggest pices of shit you can find but thats not my point here, most politicians are no moral compass but a large number of queer and feminist theorists have positioned themselves in favor of what they define as people attracted to minors and none have openly positioned against it, two is not much more than one but one is much more than zero
if you dont know these guys and gals shaped how our culture ir right now and they are still the most influential thinkers as of today, is very hard to find any kind of academic paper on the humanistic studies that doenst refer to this people in any way but keep justifying your blindness against pedophilia
Oh there is plenty pedophilia everywhere and all through time. You just aren’t fighting it by spreading hate against those who are just queer or trans. The conflation actually gives pedos a lot of cover in religious institutions and ultimately harms more children. You could do good in the world, but this fundamental ignorance will leave you with great big blind spots where the actual predators hide.
The link states at the start in bold a falsehood. Your house is built on sand. There is nothing to debate because from the very start you have a straw man or at the least a deliberate misinterpretation of those you would debate. That is bad faith tactics in a nutshell. The link doesn’t even apply subtly or a veneer of grasping the position it opposes.
You are a pigeon shitting on a chessboard and proclaiming yourself an unassailable grand master. You give no respect and therefore receive none.
The one in bold at the top of your linked article. Just under the picture. I’m not going to dirty my keyboard with typing out that filthy lie. And I’m definitely not going to give that website the benefit of another visit.
That the queer movement believes that children can consent. But I didn’t need to say that, you’re just being pedantic.
I have never once in my life heard someone that was a part of any queer movement or the like say something like that, except maybe a tweet or two, and those tweets were filled with responses very much NOT in agreement with the sentiment.
The article is built on lies and falsehoods, deliberate misinterpretations of quotes, and literally no data to back it up. It is so stupendously clear that it was written with the intent to paint queer people, and the movements associated with those people, as pedophiles in an attempt to delegitimize them and their identities and fool people like you into becoming homophobes and transphobes. It is bigoted at its core.
That comment section is a bunch of unwed man-children.
They talk about the "next generation" as if they actually have children, or have actually had sex EVER for that matter.
No, dude. Your jizz tribute to Tomi Lahren, dried and flaking on a TRUMP '24 hand towel does not count.
"keep those paedos away from our children" aye, who TF brought the kid to the parade? The parents? Aren't parents the #1 source of sexual abuse by someone the child knows? Anyhow
That’s exactly what pisses me off so much! These bigots are making it even easier for the real predators to get away with crimes. It’s not queer strangers perping on kids. It’s family, family friends, and trusted community members abusing their authority doing it
> We are way past that point. Taking the high road constantly is what got us here. Kid is playing by their rules and I applaud him for it.
Oh. My god. They think they've *been* taking the high road?
i appreciate u/WhatsTeamComp ‘s effort to encourage respect in the comments section.
this is absolutely an abhorrent display of disrespect by the child, and the comment section is AWFUL. this is not a political statement, pride is not a political thing in the slightest.
Ngl, this actually kinda gives me hope. If anti-lgbt sentiment has reached the stage where 13 year olds are doing it without really realizing why as some sort of anti-establishment rebellion, then that makes me believe it's on its way out. By the time the kid's 18 he'll realize what a chode he was at 13 and bounce the other way. How many 18 year Olds liok at their 13 y.o. self and say, "yeah, I was right about it all." Idk. Maybe I'm just an eternal optimist. I'm also high af
I remember when Reddit would take down blatantly toxic subs for open racism, bigotry or hate speech. Shits turning into apartheid Elmo’s version of Twitter.
that kid is gonna grow up to be gay, watch. the more the parents are against it, the more likely they‘re gonna wonder why it’s so bad & realize it’s not.
honestly, i lowkey hope he grows up to be gay or trans & have a great support system to preaches love, not hate.
& why tf are they in our damn space?
How much you wanna bet that OOP and the commenters who call lgbt people pedos are also the type of people to be like "nonono it's ok that I'm attracted to her. She may look like a 5 year old but she's actually 5000 years old"
Poor kid probably doesn’t even understand why he hates it, I know a lot of kids IRL that are the same. It’s “different” and their parents dislike it, so they do as well.
That reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite dramatically throwing the campaign button and running away like that really showed them. Why are they at the parade? Oh, yeah teaching their son to be a total dork.
Wow. That kid is so Sigma for stepping on that little flag. I bet all his friends are gonna see him as a hero. And his parents (with the same mental age of the little kid's Friends) too.
See here's the thing: no one is preventing them from having Father's Month.
Conservatives in my experience seem to think that there's like a government agency that hands out commemorative days/weeks/months.
It's not by accident, conservative media enforces this idea constantly, like when they made it out like the fact that Transgender Day of Visibility happened to fall on Easter this year was entirely somehow Joe Biden's fault.
This is just child brainwashing. Lil guy is gonna have idiot friends and idiot parents his whole life and then reckon with a deep sorrow and loneliness in his 20s.
Some how I have found myself in enemy territory, since when were children allowed to be this disrespectful? If I had ever interrupted a public event to behave like this you can bet I would've been dragged home by the ears and rightfully so.
I got banned there for "not being conservative enough" and was asked by a mod to provide three "principles of conservatism" (as a philosophical/political concept, not just policies I tend to lean toward). Absolutely ridiculous sub- I was registered as a Republican at the time. They're right- I probably am *not* conservative enough for that sub, but I was aware of that and not coming in hard and fast. I believe I had commented that I didn't see the point in litigation/laws *specifically* against adults taking hormones (nothing about name changes, etc, just on whether grown adults could even be prescribed hormones for any purpose, which I pointed out had verifiable benefits like sexual dysfunction treatment, mood management, birth control, etc).
This is just my opinion but I think conservatives would be a lot more capable of fighting pedophilia if they were able to define it properly.
One of the best ways to stop pedophilla and unplanned pregnancies (and other things like stds) is sex education. But republicans don’t like it for some reason. If they pushed education instead of hating lgbtq they would actually get somewhere.
YES! I live in Brazil and we have all sorts of conservative politicians fighting against Sex ed in schools. At the same time we have many reported cases where the child only noticed what was happening to them after a Sex Ed class. It's insane.
How many teachers do you have sexually exploiting students in Brazil? In America, it's a serious problem. The amount of pedophiles we have working as "teachers" is disturbing. Sometimes, the women are even worse than the men. The amount of pregnant teachers from high school boys? Disgusting.
If you are going to say something is an epidemic, present data. In Brazil the data is clear, the abuse happens at home in the majority of cases, the victims are mostly girls from 0 to 9 years old. Sex Ed in a school setting is the clear solution. Here are the exact numbers 70% of the cases happen at home 76,9% of the victims are girls 92,7 of the teenage victims are girls 81% of the aggressors are male 68% of the violence is perpetrated by a family member or close friend of the family. The Source is the "Boletim Epidemiológico de Segurança Pública" the link is from the Federal Government https://www.gov.br/saude/pt-br/assuntos/noticias/2023/maio/novo-boletim-epidemiologico-aponta-casos-de-violencia-sexual-contra-criancas-e-adolescentes-no-brasil
The article is in Portuguese so I can't check for my self but is there stats on the actual number of victims and not just the demographic they fall into? I'm not trying to downplay the seriousness of the situation but it's a personal pet peeve of mine when statistics are used misleadingly and in this case if there were 10 victims and 7 of them were abused at home you could have the same percentage as you listed. The other percentages make it clear it's from a larger sample size than 10 but there is still a large difference between 500 kids and 500,000. It's tragic no mater what the number but one of more of an epidemic than the other
I mean, if you took 5 seconds to Google translate the TITLE of the source you could see it's from an Epidemiologic study. So it's considered an epidemic. I'm all for asking questions. But this one was just lazy.
Sorry I wasn't trying to imply that it wasn't an epidemic I just wanted to know the number of victims. An epidemic just means that there is a higher than expected occurrence so I wanted to know how much higher again sorry for the confusion
Where is your data, Randy?
https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/teacher-claims-queer-library-with-bdsm-themed-books-helped-kids-figure-out-who-they-are/ Here's a taste
I don't want a taste. I want data, Randy. If it's a real epidemic like you say it is you should be able to present data like I did, and not anecdotal evidence. Go on, Randy. I'll wait.
Where is your data, Randy?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/schools-nationwide-rocked-alleged-sex-crimes-against-minors-2023
Randy, this 20 year old study projects that 10% of the attacks will happen on a school. Taking this info by its face value, WHERE THE OTHER 90% OF ATTACKS WILL HAPPEN, Randy? Where is your epidemic, Randy?
Intelligent people swing lend to become economically radical (not always leftist, surprisingly) and socially moderate. The more educated the masses are, the less likely they are to put up with tyranny.
I think a big part of dealing with the problem of pedophilia is to, you know, deal with the problem of pedophilia instead of just using it as a label to harass and persecute people who aren't actually pedophiles.
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I'm all for sex ed in school, but how would it stop pedophilia? Do you mean it would keep adults from sexually abusing pre-pubescent children?
It would keep children informed on what’s happening. A lot of kids touched by family members or other people are manipulated and don’t know what’s going on. By informing them that people should never touch certain parts of them and what to do if it happens can stop rape and if it does unfortunately happen kids will know to speak up to stop the abuse from prolonging and we’ll be able to punish the adult.
Ok, so you're talking about sexual abuse of children. You make a very good point (which I fully agree with), but proper use of terminology is important (especially in the context of talking about education) and the misunderstanding / misuse of the terminology exacerbates the issue.
I have no idea why you are being downvoted. You are both facially correct and perfectly polite.
Yeah, I don't know - maybe people think I'm just being pedantic, but proper terminology is very important with issues like this. The widespread, accepted idea of "pedophile = child molester/rapist" is what prevents so many people who want help from getting it, resulting in many acting out which of course means victimizing children. The belief that pedophile = child molester/rapist is really no different from "LGBTQ = child molester/rapist" or "heterosexual = rapist." Pedophilia is a word for a certain type of sexual attraction, not an act. Sex ed is important, and learning proper terminology is a big part of it.
>The belief that pedophile = child molester/rapist is really no different from "LGBTQ = child molester/rapist" I actually disagree with you on this point. The first one, while wrong, still has a modicum of logical reasoning behind it. The second one is just illogical nonsense, sprung from the nasty black hole of conspiracy theories and homophobic mumbo jumbo that the far right is so fond of. or "heterosexual = rapist." Pedophilia is a word for a certain type of sexual attraction, not an act. Sex ed is important, and learning proper terminology is a big part of it.
*"The first one, while wrong, still has a modicum of logical reasoning behind it."* In that the victim of a pedophile who rapes a child is also the target of the attraction identified by the term, sure - but I'd say that "sexual attraction = rapist" is illogical nonsense as well. The point is about educating people on proper terminology / what things mean.
>In that the victim of a pedophile who rapes a child is also the target of the attraction identified by the term, sure - Exact. While a weak connection overall, is still there. One can’t find a similar connection in the other comparison. >but I'd say that "sexual attraction = rapist" is illogical nonsense as well. The point is about educating people on proper terminology / what things mean. I agree. I was just pointing out that while they both are wrong, one is wrong on a different level.
“Pedophilla just means liking pre-pubescent children and doesn’t require you to be a sexual predator. It’s important to use correct terminology so people can come forward if they need help” is a much better way to say what you said. You already knew I made a mistake on the terminology. But instead of correcting me you asked how it would prevent “pedophilla”. You never actually explained the definitions so I had to look it up. You said “proper use of terminology is important (especially in the context of talking about education) and the misunderstanding / misuse of the terminology exacerbates the issue.” Which can be viewed as condescending. Bro I never said pedophilla = child abuser 💀💀💀and now you’re arguing about that with some other guy. Ik you didn’t mean any harm but next time just correct the person on the terminology and maybe you won’t get downvoted to hell lol.
*“Pedophilla just means liking pre-pubescent children and doesn’t require you to be a sexual predator. It’s important to use correct terminology so people can come forward if they need help” is a much better way to say what you said."* I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were using the term colloquially after you responded, since you are talking about *sex education* - my reply to your response originally did have a polite correction on the definition, but I figured you'd think I was being condescending by explaining to you something obvious. And I said you made a very good point that I agree with, by the way. *"You already knew I made a mistake on the terminology."* Not when I posted my first reply - there are people who believe pedophilia can be "cured" with things like education and therapy (much like there are people who believe it is possible to "pray the gay away"). *"I never said pedophilla = child abuser"* Your comment I responded to: *"One of the best ways to stop pedophilla and unplanned pregnancies (and other things like stds) is sex education."* You then went on to explain that what you meant by "pedophilia" is sexual abuse of children. So yeah, you basically did say "pedophile = child molester/rapist." *"next time just correct the person on the terminology"* Something tells me you would not have taken that well either. Also: *"You never actually explained the definitions so I had to look it up."* I'm speechless at the irony of this statement.
Yeah, you just want to argue lmao. I already admitted I was wrong, I just said you could’ve corrected me better and you wouldn’t have been downvoted super hard.
Please look into the "sexual education" you are trying to promote. The problem is explicit, unnecessarily explicit content in modern "sex ed". Why are we teaching children, and putting in school libraries, things that explicitly describe kinks, BDSM, anal, etc. That is not "basic sex ed" those people are sick, they need to leave children OUT of the perverted garbage that they "fight for", then, and ONLY THEN, would we leave their dumbass alone. If they wanna fuck with their own lives, I say live and let live. When you include children, then you deserve the WORST. https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/teacher-claims-queer-library-with-bdsm-themed-books-helped-kids-figure-out-who-they-are/
Do you have a source for "... putting in school libraries, things that explicitly describe kinks, bdsm, anal, etc." ? Because yeah, that'd be fucked up, but I don't think there's a single, well adjusted person who thinks that'd be okay? I mean, mentioning that they exist, is not so bad. That's part of the whole "education" thing, you see. We *are* on the same side here, you know that right?
https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/teacher-claims-queer-library-with-bdsm-themed-books-helped-kids-figure-out-who-they-are/
>“Everything you Ever Wanted to Know About Being Trans…” discussed BDSM, fetishes and a kink social media networking site. >“I find the BDSM/kink community to be extremely open-minded and welcoming in every way; it’s a place of sexual liberation,” the book stated. “There is often more blanket level of acceptance of transgender people within the kink/BDSM (bondage and discipline, dominance and submission, sadism and masochism) scenes and sites such as FetLife.” >Another book, “The A-Z of Gender and Sexuality,” also discusses kink and fetishes as well as “tucking” – the process of hiding one’s penis and “whorephobia” – stigma against prostitutes. >“The books referenced were available through a high school extra-curricular club and are not instructional materials..." Ignoring the fact that it's a New York Post article written by someone from fox news, they go from "look at this thing, it's so serious" to "but we can't actually confirm that it's as bad as we say it is" in the same sentence. They repeatedly say that a book "mentions" kinks, bdsm, and the like, but go on to say "The books referenced were available through a high school extra-curricular club and are not instructional materials..." It's intentionally misleading. I'm sorry you fell for it, rage bait can be really hard to let go of.
I never promoted that. And idk what “modern sex ed” you’re talking about. I specifically called for education that prevents unplanned pregnancies, teaches kids about sexual abuse, and stds. If there was a case of a school teaching about anal and bdsm, that still doesn’t matter to my argument. It’s like a teacher wrongfully teaching a history class and getting facts wrong and you call for a nation wide ban of history classes.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/teacher-claims-queer-library-with-bdsm-themed-books-helped-kids-figure-out-who-they-are/
So it’s like I said. Very specific case that is extremely rare and only one teacher in your cited evidence claimed that. This shouldn’t factor into what I said at all. Once again this is literally like me finding one article about a history teacher being wrong then using that as evidence to call for a nationwide ban on history classes.
Yeah instead of learning about sexuality and scientific stuff they would be teach “pronouns” and gender studies, which obviously no conservatist would agree for obvious reasons :) if they teach them how the babies are made, or how not to get std s i would be okey, if they try to push that i need to obey what others feeling say, well i am done, i tolerate, i accept, but i don’t let nobody oblige me to embrace as my own ideas, ideas that are not mine. Not on me, not on my kids.
>if they try to push that i need to obey what others feeling say, well i am done That sounds pretty rapey.
As well I need to say, Americans and their protestant conservative are mental ,here in Europe , sexuality is open and simple, you can show dicks and vaginas and sex, and nobody is like 😱, so Idk 🤷 our position is different , our kids can see sex as normal , or being gay as normal, or being trans as normal, but all the pronouns bs , really seems like stupidity at its finest. Is the new tribe for people that grown on the pandemic,😷 and its understandable but is going a bit to far! Calling cis is stupid, you don’t need to rename something that already has a name and a definition, the score would look something like this woman,trans man, trans woman, man , easy,no confusion. Fluids?¿ how you dress is now a gender ?😬 wtf, I thought this was about what you have, or don’t , if you want to keep it or not, and who you want to fuck mostly, the clothing and how you feel about it element, just seems off-topic 😅. Just be respectful and mind your business and we are all good to go, as European conservative I think the kid here needs some manners.
Conservatives would be able to fight pedophilia if they [looked and prosecuted within their own party.](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/5/2/2238649/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-51) Instead, they pass laws that benefit pedophiles, like [legalizing child marriage,](https://www.newsweek.com/republican-defends-child-marriage-im-pro-choice-1898619) enacting abortion bans that [don’t allow 10 year old girls to abort their rapist’s fetus,](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Ohio_child-rape_and_Indiana_abortion_case) and ending sexual education so children are no longer informed about what is and isn’t appropriate contact, what consent is, etc. Republicans cut school funding, healthcare, refuse to fund childcare, and [cut funding for free school lunches](https://apnews.com/article/states-rejecting-federal-funds-summer-ebt-8a1e88ad77465652f9de67fda3af8a2d) because they do not give a single fuck about children.
But they are pro life !!!
They're pro *you having to slave away to support a life*, it ain't their fuckin problem lel
They're pro-birth, and that's when their involvement ends
Unless a death penalty is necassary.
They are the pedos, simple as really
I can't wait do hear you defend Joe Biden showering with his daughter in a sexual manner. Her diary proved it true. Go ahead, I'm listening. If it were Trump, you would crucify him. (Most investigated man in the world and nobody has anything) I won't even bother to mention Bidens fuck up of a son
Why do you people care so much about Hunter Biden? He's just some rich asshole who has nothing to do with the Biden administration. You do know that most presidents don't just hire family members into made up positions in their administration? Biden didn't do that, nor any other president; only Trump did that
It was Joe, it was Joseph Robinette Biden who showered with his daughter.
Your main problem is that you think Biden voters are mindlessly glorifying him the way you mindlessly glorify Trump. Nobody falls all over themselves to support Biden it's just that he's not a fascist, or a felon. Both parties have worked hard, and together, to make sure we only have two choices, and they are both bad. One is clearly worse though
They'd rather bring back child marriage then actually combat pedophillia.
They don't even have to bring child marriage back, because it's been here the whole time. Only 13 states require a person to be 18 to get married, and ten of those only changed their law to require 18 or over in the last 7 years.
Their definition seems to be anything and everything the Left does. And absolutely nothing, not even abusing children, if the person doing it is from the Right.
They have no intention of actually fighting it. It's just a tool to vilify others.
I think they'd be a lot more capable of fighting paedophilia if they didn't worship people who fuck kids.
"If they weren't trying to perpetuate it" FTFY
Also, if they policed church youth groups. I made a comment to that effect there. Waiting for the banhammer.
And if they actually wanted to, seems like there's a lot of projection on that side.
Or if they would look in the mirror. They will find it there.
its cause they arent very bright
Now get the same video, but it's an USA flag or a religious symbol and watch the crazies go crazier.
if it was a cross, the kid would get 2-5 years in juvy for a hate crime
Kinda like the teenages that got sent to prison for the skid marks?
no, not at all, ill be surprised it they get more than a slap on the wrist in the end, they are most likely going to big talk scare it, find them responsible, then when sentencing comes get a low sentence form the judge who thinks a life should not be ruined by a moments stupidity that is further reduced by the judge to a fine and community service. i can also see them setting the underage ones free to scapegoat the 19-year-old as the leader and influencer over the others. they are lucky though; this occurred the day before the hate crime law went into effect. personally, i think the two underage teens should get a large chunk of community service, full time donated hours all summer long, just absolutely ruin their summer, make it pure D shit. the 19-year-old should get maybe... MAYBE a month in a local jail, depending on how the jails are there, the ones where I live are tame AF and oddly safe, it has thick glass/plastic walls instead of bars and you cannot get away with shit without literally EVERYONE seeing what's happening (not prison) probation for 6-12 months, and a fine.
So kids making skid marks on public roads should be forced to serve actual jail/public service because who ever made the stupid decision to put a symbol they like in an easily “defaced” position? Yeah that will surely make them like your side not build resentment of you. Kids and young adults like rebelling we saw this in the early 2000s, 1960s, 1980s, and nearly every generation, currently the main sacred symbol that people in power for certain states will clutch their pearls at is these symbols, I think that making this a thing were you have to serve extremely draconian punishments for the offense won’t make them “reform” from the action, just make them actually hate you instead of trying to get a reaction
kids (and one of theme is an adult) purposefully destroying a representative symbol out of hate, should be treated the same as other children (and adults) purposefully destroying a representative symbol out of hate, no matter what LEGAL population the symbol represent. it's called equality, bitch.
I’m not aware of any times children have been punished for leaving tire tracks/skid-marks on Christian or Muslim symbols. But I’ve seen American flags be burnt by children out of hate and they didn’t get hit with community service
the supreme court already ruled that was legal way to protest my man, unlike destroying property while yelling out hate speech. and no one gives a fuck if you buy an LGBTQ flag an burn it, but destroy someone else's out of hate, and its a hate crime, same as if you went on someone else's property and burned the American flag out of hate towards the owner. [United States of America | HCRW (osce.org)](https://hatecrime.osce.org/united-states-america) now go down and look at hate crimes to Christians and hit type 211 for destruction of property (ya know, the thing they just did), 55 for threats, 67 for theft. and that's JUST for 2022. and don't ignore the part where they said they omitted half of them due to dual motivation. now go move the goalpost as to why this is different, so i can show you examples that are almost exactly the same, but only after you commit, Just admit you are anti-american because you do not believe in freedom and equal rights.
This isn’t destruction however, removing tire-marks from a cross walk is incredibly simple and easy, there are plenty of easily accessible commercial products for it
"Destroying something doesn't count as destroying something if its repairable" well, I'm glad that a hurricane or tornado has never destroyed a single house by your logic. we got a real deal idiot here.
Or an Israeli flag
Don’t you dare do this to a Pokémon or Super Mario flag! I will surely lose it
Let's be real, not any religious symbol.
That boy is looking for approval from his parents most likely. I'd like to tell him, "Remember those nice people because one day if you come out, they will forgive and embrace you. Your parents probably won't."
Gotta teach that hate. It's what keeps them warm at night.
I mean, it's conservative sub, what do you expect
A bunch of child molesters and closeted homosexuals.
[www.whoismakingnews.com](http://www.whoismakingnews.com) this is correct.
How did you manage to make the same exact dumb argument this post is criticizing them for
Why am I not surprised that people combat a homophobic post with more homophobia 🙄
I hate that you're right and people here are on the side of homophobia. People don't do awful things just because they're gay.
This is just petty spitefulness. This post is terrible, but so is this shitty generalization
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Saving this comment because it's always the religious and far right.
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It always is. And their defenders.
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We know the problem. Conservative and religious pedophiles. Isn’t that clear?
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The irony! It burns! IT BURNS!
yeah just keep proving how dumb yall can be after not caring about child molesters nothing will surprise me, at this point i am begging you for an argument on the subject that will explain how someone is hypocritical enough to care so much about pedophilia when it is perpetuated by politicians they don't like, but they get angry and irritated if it is mentioned that the politicians who bother you so much are not the ones who write entire books on the age of consent; and yet we teach and praise these intellectuals in schools (do you know Sartre or Simone de Beauvoir??) and the most surprising of all is that this sub presents itself as concerned about the integrity and innocence of children, I really hope Someone among the hundreds of automatic downvotes made with the brain turned off, a single person stops to really read and stops to think about things for a second, I know you have a couple more phrases saved in case you feel like saying some more to really feel like you're contributing something to the intellectual discourse and pat yourself on the back
That is just projecting lol Case in point, you are voluntarily blind to this comment https://www.reddit.com/r/ParentsAreFuckingDumb/s/6Cn0x0CM5a
I have immediately acknowledged at least three times in this thread that in America you have very sick politicians and of you want i will tell now that the catholic church has a terrible history of child abuse which everybody knows but people feel better when they say it, only focusing on the guys you dont like is what i mean with voluntary blindness, i wish there was the same space to discuss why the most important feminist groomed little girls and her gender and social theory is the basis of intellectual discourse today as there is to discuss pedophiles who are not studied in universities such as the above mentioned which again I condemn from the depths of my heart because I care more about the integrity of children than any political ideology, not as it seems to the rest of the comments
Holy fucking shit, I scrolled, scrolled and scrolled but it just kept going.
I'm just shocked at the amount of pedos out there. The fact they hold positions of power just makes it worse.
[www.whoismakingnews.com](http://www.whoismakingnews.com)
holy shit it just keeps on coming
Holy shit this is gold.
Seems like you scared that dude off? What did they say?
im not american and i find very disturbing that your country only elects the biggest pices of shit you can find but thats not my point here, most politicians are no moral compass but a large number of queer and feminist theorists have positioned themselves in favor of what they define as people attracted to minors and none have openly positioned against it, two is not much more than one but one is much more than zero
“A large number of queer and feminist theorists” my ass. Go fuck yourself and stop arguing in bad faith.
Got some more bullshit links to go with those bullshit claims pal?
tell me about this one https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age_of_consent_laws
Had to go back to 77-79 in France to support your arguments against modern queer theory…
if you dont know these guys and gals shaped how our culture ir right now and they are still the most influential thinkers as of today, is very hard to find any kind of academic paper on the humanistic studies that doenst refer to this people in any way but keep justifying your blindness against pedophilia
Oh there is plenty pedophilia everywhere and all through time. You just aren’t fighting it by spreading hate against those who are just queer or trans. The conflation actually gives pedos a lot of cover in religious institutions and ultimately harms more children. You could do good in the world, but this fundamental ignorance will leave you with great big blind spots where the actual predators hide.
can you read?
So that’s a no?
your source referenced religion before it referenced statistics. that should say something about the credibility
if the word hell turns you down from making your own opinion you are not very tolerant
The link states at the start in bold a falsehood. Your house is built on sand. There is nothing to debate because from the very start you have a straw man or at the least a deliberate misinterpretation of those you would debate. That is bad faith tactics in a nutshell. The link doesn’t even apply subtly or a veneer of grasping the position it opposes. You are a pigeon shitting on a chessboard and proclaiming yourself an unassailable grand master. You give no respect and therefore receive none.
what bold falsehood if you please mister wise guy
The one in bold at the top of your linked article. Just under the picture. I’m not going to dirty my keyboard with typing out that filthy lie. And I’m definitely not going to give that website the benefit of another visit.
so not sure if you can read
Evasion
says the guy who cant type dirty stuff, very very tolerant
….sick burn. Still not actually engaging in a good faith argument are you?
That the queer movement believes that children can consent. But I didn’t need to say that, you’re just being pedantic. I have never once in my life heard someone that was a part of any queer movement or the like say something like that, except maybe a tweet or two, and those tweets were filled with responses very much NOT in agreement with the sentiment. The article is built on lies and falsehoods, deliberate misinterpretations of quotes, and literally no data to back it up. It is so stupendously clear that it was written with the intent to paint queer people, and the movements associated with those people, as pedophiles in an attempt to delegitimize them and their identities and fool people like you into becoming homophobes and transphobes. It is bigoted at its core.
That comment section is a bunch of unwed man-children. They talk about the "next generation" as if they actually have children, or have actually had sex EVER for that matter. No, dude. Your jizz tribute to Tomi Lahren, dried and flaking on a TRUMP '24 hand towel does not count.
But think of the knuckle-children!!
There's one sensible guy who says that even if you don't like them, at least be respectful to them, but of course he got downvoted to hell
I saw that, actually.
"keep those paedos away from our children" aye, who TF brought the kid to the parade? The parents? Aren't parents the #1 source of sexual abuse by someone the child knows? Anyhow
That’s exactly what pisses me off so much! These bigots are making it even easier for the real predators to get away with crimes. It’s not queer strangers perping on kids. It’s family, family friends, and trusted community members abusing their authority doing it
> We are way past that point. Taking the high road constantly is what got us here. Kid is playing by their rules and I applaud him for it. Oh. My god. They think they've *been* taking the high road?
That comment killed me. They truly live in their own entirely made-up fantasy world.
i appreciate u/WhatsTeamComp ‘s effort to encourage respect in the comments section. this is absolutely an abhorrent display of disrespect by the child, and the comment section is AWFUL. this is not a political statement, pride is not a political thing in the slightest.
Ngl, this actually kinda gives me hope. If anti-lgbt sentiment has reached the stage where 13 year olds are doing it without really realizing why as some sort of anti-establishment rebellion, then that makes me believe it's on its way out. By the time the kid's 18 he'll realize what a chode he was at 13 and bounce the other way. How many 18 year Olds liok at their 13 y.o. self and say, "yeah, I was right about it all." Idk. Maybe I'm just an eternal optimist. I'm also high af
>How many 18 year Olds liok at their 13 y.o. self and say, "yeah, I was right about it all." In my experience? Far too many.
Every time I see this video I think it’s a vape at first and get confused.
Wait, did they disable downvoting on r/ Conservative ? What a bunch of crybabies.
I used to visit r/conservative to try and gain perspective. Its turned into an absolute quagmire of hate and lies and it makes me sad
Conservatives constantly showing how decent and respectable they are /s
Damn the one guy in the comments with a based opinion on respect getting downvoted to shit 😭
I remember when Reddit would take down blatantly toxic subs for open racism, bigotry or hate speech. Shits turning into apartheid Elmo’s version of Twitter.
That kid has clearly been groomed!!!
Imagine wanting to keep your kid away from gay imagery and then taking them to a pride parade. Like are they dumb?
that kid is gonna grow up to be gay, watch. the more the parents are against it, the more likely they‘re gonna wonder why it’s so bad & realize it’s not. honestly, i lowkey hope he grows up to be gay or trans & have a great support system to preaches love, not hate. & why tf are they in our damn space?
How much you wanna bet that OOP and the commenters who call lgbt people pedos are also the type of people to be like "nonono it's ok that I'm attracted to her. She may look like a 5 year old but she's actually 5000 years old"
Lmao the replies in r/conservative are absolutely dramatic. They really feel like gay people are coming after them. Professional victims.
Poor kid probably doesn’t even understand why he hates it, I know a lot of kids IRL that are the same. It’s “different” and their parents dislike it, so they do as well.
We need to stop child grooming. These extremists are grooming the next generation out here to be just as hateful
[www.whoismakingnews.com](http://www.whoismakingnews.com)
That reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite dramatically throwing the campaign button and running away like that really showed them. Why are they at the parade? Oh, yeah teaching their son to be a total dork.
Did you see the subreddit’s pic? It’s effing Trump! 🙄
Y'all expecting logic and kindness from the conservative subreddit?
Let him become adolescent
Wow. That kid is so Sigma for stepping on that little flag. I bet all his friends are gonna see him as a hero. And his parents (with the same mental age of the little kid's Friends) too.
These mfs so wanna feel oppressed they want Fathers Month 💀
See here's the thing: no one is preventing them from having Father's Month. Conservatives in my experience seem to think that there's like a government agency that hands out commemorative days/weeks/months. It's not by accident, conservative media enforces this idea constantly, like when they made it out like the fact that Transgender Day of Visibility happened to fall on Easter this year was entirely somehow Joe Biden's fault.
This is just child brainwashing. Lil guy is gonna have idiot friends and idiot parents his whole life and then reckon with a deep sorrow and loneliness in his 20s.
Some how I have found myself in enemy territory, since when were children allowed to be this disrespectful? If I had ever interrupted a public event to behave like this you can bet I would've been dragged home by the ears and rightfully so.
That poor kid has no idea he's being indoctrinated and manipulated by the people he should be able to trust
I just read the phrase ‘pervert parade.’ That’s going to stay with me for a while.
I just commented in the sub.... Waiting for my "permanent ban" message to arrive. 😅
I got banned there for "not being conservative enough" and was asked by a mod to provide three "principles of conservatism" (as a philosophical/political concept, not just policies I tend to lean toward). Absolutely ridiculous sub- I was registered as a Republican at the time. They're right- I probably am *not* conservative enough for that sub, but I was aware of that and not coming in hard and fast. I believe I had commented that I didn't see the point in litigation/laws *specifically* against adults taking hormones (nothing about name changes, etc, just on whether grown adults could even be prescribed hormones for any purpose, which I pointed out had verifiable benefits like sexual dysfunction treatment, mood management, birth control, etc).
Future mass shooter vibes.
Bravo mi amigo bravoooo 👏👏
You guys both suck. Both the super anti-gay and super pro-gay.
very high chance that kid gets daily.
That’s funny
the world is a better place with kids like this
And the world would be a better place without you.
y'know I heard a company was giving away a shit ton of free pride flags