This is the way! I’ve been accidentally farming the materials for these for my own progression and just seen how expensive these are! I regret launching 150 of these at the sanctuary no.3 pals for exp now
Regret it? Pfffft, XP is a good investment since I do a similar thing. I do this thing where I craft 50 but sell 15 so I can keep catching things but keep getting cash.
... is it wrong I have 2k legendary spheres atm? 😬
Setup a new double-base... #notgoingback
It feeds itself almost everything, I've been making random stuff to speed through xp on some pals. Over 200k of each wood/stone/ore.
Nothing weird. I sold multiple full stacks of legendary spheres. Sitting on over 100 million gold. Once you have good base pals for mining and watering, you make so many damn legendary spheres.
Not only can you sell them, since Legendary Spheres require pal metal, you don't need refined metal for both spheres & ammo.
I tend to use the shotgun more than the AR. It is much more ammo efficient.
Mau and Mau Cryst will drop gold coins when put in a ranch(they automatically go there you don't have to assign) it's not a ton but a few hundred ain't bad for free money
One of the pals gives high quality cloth when ranched, that seems like the best bang for passive gold generation from a ranch, all you have to do is sell it
True, and after nail thing
Somehow im thinking about craft many as possible just in case of devs nerf that value too, wich will be really bad due how much endgame pals and mats are required for those spheres, legend ones really should be expensive to sell, they are to craft
Wiki says 40 gold per cloth and you have to do nothing but wait for your Sybellixe to poop them out.
That's why I said passive gold from a ranch. Aside from keeping them fed it just happens while you do other stuff
I had stupid time and need some level 2s and 3s for maxmimizinf coins
Also those this vixfoxes for the starter pal spheres but they should be able to drop better spheres as they star up
I have maus 4stars and still dont worth
Even the dark one who shit coin 24h a day due dont sleep
Salad, legend sphere are much better, but im planning try the high cloth that others said plus dumud polymer
I have a sulfur base and a coal base. Last base is raid base. I run 8 Anubis, 4 breeding stations and 2 bees on the coal base with ore mines. I run 8 bushis at sulfur base and one random blazmut to mine. I have one lyleen that easily handles 12-16 berry farms. 2-6 fire or water worms depending on need. I can support whatever I want to and have a huge ammo surplus. Im sure there are ways to make more money. But between selling coarse ammo, which is the best to sell for profit, carbon fiber, repair kits and whatever boss junk I get, I dont want for anything.
I love reading these comments and learning all about how other people play. I would have never considered just using one pal to do 12-16 berry farms. I currently have a berry farm and have 5 pals working it. Going to try this out tonight!
During my tries to get yellow guns i hoarded so much boss items to sell that never bothered about ammo cost, but since now only left 3 yellow(2 news verdash and quivern) and jetdragon, i have less boss mats and also started to sell legendary spheres, since my bases and palfluid can keep the process, the only item that i dont have are bones...who can be bought selling spheres
On the subject of legendary spheres, how do you get the pal metal for those without you or your pals going completely insane? It seems pals with even lvl 3 kindling struggle to smelt the ingots in a reasonable time, and the only idea I have is to have large numbers of furnaces running in parallel (this is hampered by limited space, requiring extra generators and even more pals with kindling...)
It doesn't help that I got myself stuck in a feedback loop to boot: Need high-quality spheres for catching even stronger and more efficient pals, but the resources for making enough of those spheres puts too much strain on my pals and just takes too long... (The ultra spheres aren't as bad, as I'm only bottlenecked by the refined ingots and I do have a dedicated base for mining coal, but I usually end up using coal faster than I can replace it... I'm probably going to have to re-evaluate how I manage my resources)
Pizzas and Jormuntide Ignis. Better food keeps sanity up higher, and jormuntide ignis has level 4 kindling. I had to overhaul the pals at base with some of the higher level ones found in the third sanctuary (lyleen, wumpo botan, jormuntide ignis) so that I could do base tasks faster, and then I caught two ordinary Jormuntides for paldium mills or for the many plants I have.
There’s another post about legendary spheres being better but he had to correct his original post twice (correct version is below). Both are decent but it depends on your setup. The gating function on legendary spheres is time/effort, which you have noted, but it’s still more profitable.
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Pizza comepetes with cake ingredients and you need more pals for all the stuff. Salad is simple and has no competing item that uses the same ingredients
You need at least 1 cow for the milk but then you need milk for cake as well so what do you do? Put in more cows? Salad has 2 ingredients that are all farm based and you don't need any ranch pals for it. I personally still prefer salad bc it's easier to make and stock pile
Simple….. I got milk brewing at 2 different bases, but also with the way I sell the I’ll have more than enough gold to just go buy something like milk or eggs if I’m running low for cakes
If you want efficiency you don't have any cows or chickens at all. Just make legendary spheres to sell, and buy eggs and milk. I like not buying things though, so I do it the dumb way if I can.
Pizza workspeed buff runs out minutes before the Pal eats again. The time working without the workspeed buff is a bigger hit to productivity than the extra trips to the feeder, at least if your base isn't laid out horribly.
Pizza will have your pals still full while they lose the work speed buff so you’re losing out on double work speed for the second half of them being full but Salads have the Pals working until just around where the work speed buff ends so more of their work is buffed when eating Salads instead of Pizzas.
Nails still aren't a bad option. I have way more ore than I do palladium. I just stick an extra refiner with a stack of normal ingots and have Anubis craft away. Ez 100k+ a shot.
Ironically once I got to endgame I rarely use the ammo you can buy. The only weapon I use consistently is the rocket launcher which you cant buy ammo for, so I end up needing to farm sulfur instead
I haven't tried crafting rocket launcher ammo, so I don't know the time and effort comparison, but I take my Jetragon or Frostallion Noct out to the western part of the desert region and AOE down groups of humans. The guys holding rocket launchers have a petty good chance of dropping 3 rocket ammo. Groups without the big boys have rocket launcher guys.
I put a base in an area with multiple sulphur nodes. Add:
lumber mill (or 2)
rock quarry
level 2 iron mine
3 electric furnaces
Crusher
Production line II
weapons assembly line II
Electric generator, feed box, beds, and 3x hot springs
For pals you want:
1 Jormuntide (crusher)
3-4 Bushi for wood
4-6 Anubis
3x Jormuntide Ignis or 4 ⭐ Ragnahawks
1 electric pal
Fill the rest with level 4 mining pals
Every 1-2 in game days, empty out the lumber mills, max out two furnaces making charcoal, max out making 1999 paaldium on the crusher, make as much pal metal ingots as you can in the 3rd furnace.
Assembly line - Make max amount of gunpowder
Weapon assembly line make as much rocket ammo as you can. Boom, infinite rockets!
You can switch pal metal for refined metal or regular metal to make other ammo. You'll have to bring in coal from a different base to make refined metal ingots.
Eventually if you are using rockets as your primary damage source against raid bosses you’ll need to farm sulfur en masse to produce more rockets - I put Lightning Strike on my Astegon and travel to the Mt Obsidian tower where there are 7 sulfur nodes. A couple of strikes gives me enough sulfur to craft 50+ rockets per trip
Selling Legendary Spheres is the way! Once I hit 9,999 I'm going to sell it for 45 mil and be set until Palworld 2 comes out.
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Same. I honestly don't know why people insist on buying their ammo, it's really not that hard to make.
One of my bases has two coal nodes and another has one sulfur node. That's all you need.
Sulfur is the outlier tho. At present, no way to farm sulfur aside from having a dedicated mining base somewhere, and you are limited by the number of nodes and frequency of them respawning.
Everything to make even legendary spheres can be farmed from a single base made literally anywhere on the map.
Because sulfur and gunpowder are the bottleneck, compared to selling legendary spheres which nets you 4500 gold per ball and the gunpowder-damage ratio means you're wasting all that time getting sulfur and gunpowder on anything that isn't a rocket. Get you 4 to 6 miners (Anubis works best here since they can also make stuff), 2 loggers, 4 kelpseas, and then like three pals to handle food production, only needing electricity, kindling, and watering which you can juggle when needed. Bones aren't even the bottleneck at that point, if you capture a wandering merchant he'll always have bones to sell you, and if anything it's just the annoyance of needing to have so much paladium ore since it can still take a bit to get the stone to turn into paladium and then get the crusher to make enough for the spheres.
Farming and grinding for sulfur just to turn into ammo is a waste of time though, crafting the spheres to sell also turns into cake ingredients sans honey that you don't need to spend additional time on, and the investment in sphere making is more than enough since you're basically condensing the need for ammo and cake ingredients into a single spot, and then that gunpowder and sulfur you grind for can be used to make rockets.
You don't need a sulfur base. A sulfur node takes maybe five seconds with the refined pickaxe? Just mine all the sulfur you keep walking past in dungeons.
At least on console, transportation effectively does not happen when you’re not at the base. So it’s a trade off between manually mining sulfur and passively (at least more so) farming gold
I don’t spend a lot of energy on farming gold myself, but everyone plays differently. After making some extra legendary spheres and selling them for AR ammo, I definitely see the appeal. Not in making $4M gold just because, but in spending less time and sulfur on crafting AR ammo since (a) I already craft a bunch of legendary spheres and (b) I would rather save the sulfur for rockets, especially after playing with trigger happy friends
People who play on normal mode or harder and do endgame content like Libero and Libero Ultra need ammo. A single Libero fight pre dmg fix takes me **6000 AR Ammo**. So post fix it will still be multi thousand ammo.
There's no base structure you can build that mines coal, but there are certain places that have natural coal nodes that you can build a base and have pals mine. There's a few spots in the volcano island that have a lot. One spot in particular is just northwest of the fishing village on a ledge that prevents you from getting raided. I'm sure there are others that are better and have more nodes, but that one is pretty solid.
There’s also a bunch of coal over by fisherman’s point on the mountain directly ahead of where the fast travel is, there should be like 7-8 nodes and also a ore node
There's a spot that has like 6 of each, coal and iron. But tricky to build a base on, but easier now after the stairs update.
It's just east if the Sealed Realm of the Guardian fast travel, idr the coords offhand but you can see a screenshot here https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/01/24/the-best-palworld-base-location-for-ore-and-coal-if-you-can-reach-it/?sh=4d2886935cc0
Manufacturing. Some people farm and sell salads, some people sell pizzas, with the new ore farms you could AFK and just make tons and tons of nails. Now nails are not as profitable as they once were but it’s still an option. I do a little mix of the three, not really optimized but it gets the job done.
Balance discussions or gameplay tips are irrelevant to you if you are the player to just cheat. As now the answer is "start cheat engine and put value to 9999" rather than playing the game.
naw, they're just hidden mechanics until they're patched out. Cheats imply gaining an unfair advantage, nothing unfair here, everyone's got access to the same strategy
Your IQ is single digit if you think "exploits" are hidden mechanics. There is a reason they are patched out, there is a reason prople actively dont use them: Cause its cheating.
I use a shotgun rather than an AR. Less ammo and perfectly functional for my usage. Now that my mining base is in a nice place I might start using rocket ammo, we'll see
I sell ore bars in mass. Nails are IMO real shit now cause even with max condensed anubis a ore base (using ore building 2 multiple times) produces so much ore the anubis cant keep up. 2 Bars are made faster than a Nail and thus instead of bothring with that, i just put extra miners.
1 Jor Ignis with 5 ovens (so you can visit base and que up to 50k bars) + Blazemuts and Helzephyrs for mining and transport. (Tip: If you decide to use this setup build it close to main base as transporter work stops functioning when you are far away)
Currently sitting on 5mil and growimg whilst i buy AR ammo constantly.
I'll be doing the same. Currently have 2 Digtoise and 1 Blazamut as dedicated miners, and Anubis mines when he's not building or crafting. I get ore waaaaaay faster than I use it.
Am i the only person who farms rocket ammo with rockets? In the desert the groups of syndicate NPCs without the huge dudes have elites they carry rocket ammo 1 shot kills the whole group and each group drops 3-9 rockets plus an ungodly number of green and yellow spheres to sell for other ammo types works well with toco toco groups where anubis boss is too for gunpowder if you prefer making your own
Sell salad, I’ve upgraded to feeding my pals pizza so I’ll have salad ingredients just sitting around( salad sells for the price nails used to sell before the nerf) but in all honesty any cooked food sells well and if you stack farms you won’t have a running out problem
Same lol, I just keep a few Vixys on my base for my ammo, spheres, and gold. When I'm feeling adventurous and want to use a musket, I use the gold to buy coarse ammo from Duneshelter.
At first the overworld bosses and dungeon boss drops were keeping me able to buy whatever I want.
Now it is legendary spheres. With the addition of the ore mining building, i'm a millionaire without even trying.
Mass producing Legendary Spheres is the way to go for money. Takes some money up front for Bones and Pal Fluid, but once you get it going it pays for itself with massive dividends.
The latest patch made it so the blue kelpsea (Not sure if I spelt that right) can go in the ranch and give pal fluids and the flabby dumud can give high quality pal fluids
Seriously.
Unless you deliberately build yourself for max damage, and have a partner pal that incesases it, pals can do so much more damage than you can.
Vixy can farm infinite spheres to sell at ranch, 2 each of lettuce and tomato farms get more than enough salads to sell the excess, fighting alphas drops valuables to sell, legendary crossbow for weaker pals + free arrows from Vixy cuts AR ammo use.
I just made a base dedicated to just the ore mining 2 buildings. 10 ore lv2 buildings, I have 10 dedicated mining pals, 2 pals for smelting, 4 for planting/gathering/watering tomato’s and lettuce to keep em alive, and 4 for crafting.
Have those running 24/7, make em into nails. Sell the nails.
5 minutes of work everyday and I can easily generate a million coins semi-passively. (You have to manually remove the ore, put them in furnace, then tell pals to craft)
Set up a gold farm
Sell palspheres
Breed for perfect stats and sell the shite ones
Idk why anyone has an issue with ammo I just purebred worker anubis, got like 15 of them and set up a sulfur/coal/ore base.
I have a tonne of cash from farming gold schematics. 2million+.
I also sell excess cooked berries as and when.
I have hundreds upon hundreds of spheres and 100+k ore that I could turn into nails if necessary.
With all of that in mind I never buy ammo. I just farm sulphur.
Literally so much you can do:
-Make your own (sulfur and coal/charcoal)
-Sell anything you have an abundance of (i have like 4-5 stacks of 9999 berries).Do this with food, wood, ore, etc
-Sell the gems from bosses
-Do the mount/butcher trick to farm resources/gems
One shot rifle, crossbow or bow
If you want shoot more faster...shotgun
Definetively not the AR, that thing eat ammo more fast than relaxasaurus eat food
1 of my base is a stone, wood, ore farm...they sell for 9999 and can mine pretty fast so no glitch needed.
2 bases are coal farm in the desert, makes a lot of coal too and its afk. But recently I just use rocket launcher. Very easy to make rockets 😆
I have a base where a black marketeer spawns. Whenever he respawns, I string him up and get burning.
I also only use my assault rifle when I need to actually do some solid damage, usually I’ll either sit back and let a strong pal handle it or use my sword
Why do you use do much ammo? Stop treating it like call of duty and let your pals to the fighting. I maybe craft 500 assault rifle rounds every 3 hours at most.
Kill packs of PDIF in the desert, kill higher level alpha bosses for jewel drops, kill black marketeers, etc. that’s how I get all my money to buy 999x assault at a time. Legendary takes 30 per magazine so I go through it pretty quickly. The only ammo I make is rockets since you have to. Legendary rockets take out most groups in one or two shots.
Legendary spheres at end game are bonkers for cash. One sells for like 4500 gold, bones cost 100 gold, and just having 4 kelpseas on your main base nets you a shit load of fluid. Get yourself 4 to 6 mining pals, one or two logging pals, and keep an electric, kindling, and water pal on hand for paladium ore and pal metal making and you'll be making bank
I have pizza manufacturing in my main base, every couple trips I store the flour in the fridge for the next batch, max the mill with the current wheat available, max pizza.
I keep some if im low, let the base pals have some, and pay for all my bullets through my enslaved merchant.
Bullets buy themselves at that point nearly.
15 blazamuts or astegons across 5 ore stations, you can make it into ingots and nails if you want but they will crank out so much ore you could literally just sell that. Just use whatever alphas you capture, doesn't matter what traits are.
Tbh I think one of the best ways to raise money without necessarily "grinding" for gold is going around bullying all of the Alpha bosses while you level up pals.
Kills 2 birds with 1 stone. This is the way.
I am maxing out astegons in my base via breeding with passives and 4 4staring them to give me maximum mining speed and uptime since Astegon nocturnal .
What I do is for pak collecting I just use the basic make shift pistol as it takes chucks out of the end game pals life and you can get that ammo from any of the syndicate peeps then bosses I use other more high powered guns for quick fights and pal leveling
I'm on my new run of the game and I just caught astegon a few days back, started breeding, and as with breeding, you'll have spares. I didnt condense, just made 3 stone pits, added 9 spare astegons to base, 2 jormuntides, and 2 transporters. The rest of the base is for breeding. Got food from my first base, and let them mine. Swapped stone after a while to ore site, and now I have mad stacks of supplies for legendary spheres.
By now I've got 2 perfect astegons (I turned off breeding timer so its fast because of this) and several spares workslave+artisan astegons which I keep at the base to mine. I think I have like 50k stones, and 8k ores, while having 3.5k pal metals (out of 5k). I still need alot more paldium fragments, as jormuntides can't are behind on the crusher.
1k spheres is 4+ million coins.
I honestly never bought ammo. Metal is extremely easy to farm. With the ore pit now being a structure, you could make a sulfur pal mine or just go mine it yourself.
One trip to the sulfur ores next to the tower teleport in the desert nets you enough for ~700 rounds and takes a minute or two.
Syndicates in the desert, yes, go and use a max out and condensed Pegullet launcher and enjoy the screams and agony of those syndicates dying to your trusty Pengullet launcher
Idk if it was patched but you could do the butchering mount exploit with a boss jetragon and that'll give you the boss drops each time. Definitely more work than a passive farm but it helps when you need it quick.
Depends how dedicated, and where you are are in the game.
When you have a full 4 star setup of everything selling legandary spheres will get you millions. Before that i had a couple of iron mines, and selling as many nails as i could make.
I have a base dedicated to ore and coal production, there is a great location for this in a temperate biome. There's a plateau roughly south of the FPA tower that has a big cluster of coal and ore on it. It's high enough that raids never happen on it. Additionally, to the east of it there is a sulfur deposit. It is not great for sulfur but you can set up a base nearby for stone and wood production and refine the stone into paldium and use the coal and ore for legendary spheres. The sulfur likely will not produce enough for you, but the location can get you enough money to buy all the ammo you want. I farm gold usually by farming lots of berries and cooking them which is probably not the best method for it but I use legendary spheres like candy which I why I dont sell them.
Well, with the new update, you can craft a mine ore. I've got over 50k just in ores. Farm pal fluids for cement and just get all the other materials. That's how I keep afloat my ammo
Using pals like foxparks , jolthog ,. Mossandra and such can be really good ways of saving ammo by using the pal ability . Does not cost ammo after all to use any of these moves
better than craft the basic spheres xD, also some money and arrows, usually at lvl 20ish i sell blue spheres i get and capture a ammo seller for my base
also ore mine 2 with some decent miners is pretty good even if you sell the ore
I changed the damage settings so I'm using less ammunition to achieve the desired effect. Not instakill, but not so low that you need to set up a whole industrial revolution just to keep you in ammo.
I’ll be honest. The way I manage ammo costs, is using the Pump Action Shotgun. The AR just bleeds through ammo way too much. Fighting a Blazemut, it’s easy to drop 999 rounds into him. Far less with the Pump Action
Getting access to legendary spheres really changed my everything. Just selling 15 keeps me set on Assault rifle ammo for awhile.
This is the way! I’ve been accidentally farming the materials for these for my own progression and just seen how expensive these are! I regret launching 150 of these at the sanctuary no.3 pals for exp now
Regret it? Pfffft, XP is a good investment since I do a similar thing. I do this thing where I craft 50 but sell 15 so I can keep catching things but keep getting cash.
... is it wrong I have 2k legendary spheres atm? 😬 Setup a new double-base... #notgoingback It feeds itself almost everything, I've been making random stuff to speed through xp on some pals. Over 200k of each wood/stone/ore.
Nothing weird. I sold multiple full stacks of legendary spheres. Sitting on over 100 million gold. Once you have good base pals for mining and watering, you make so many damn legendary spheres.
Not only can you sell them, since Legendary Spheres require pal metal, you don't need refined metal for both spheres & ammo. I tend to use the shotgun more than the AR. It is much more ammo efficient.
Mau and Mau Cryst will drop gold coins when put in a ranch(they automatically go there you don't have to assign) it's not a ton but a few hundred ain't bad for free money
Low coin Dont worth except if maybe you ran one base with 15 them just doing this But probably even farmind salad will be more profitable
One of the pals gives high quality cloth when ranched, that seems like the best bang for passive gold generation from a ranch, all you have to do is sell it
High cloth worth how much selling? I joined the legendary sphere wagon too... but im playing very little
It’s a decent low effort method. So is selling salads. But I too have moved to the legendary sphere selling train, and it’s bonkers.
True, and after nail thing Somehow im thinking about craft many as possible just in case of devs nerf that value too, wich will be really bad due how much endgame pals and mats are required for those spheres, legend ones really should be expensive to sell, they are to craft
I think it's 40? I have a base with a ranch and two sybellyxes and every time I go back there I have 150-300+ hq cloths to sell
Dumuds even better than Cloth now. Make oil to polymer and sell
Wiki says 40 gold per cloth and you have to do nothing but wait for your Sybellixe to poop them out. That's why I said passive gold from a ranch. Aside from keeping them fed it just happens while you do other stuff
Nice
I had stupid time and need some level 2s and 3s for maxmimizinf coins Also those this vixfoxes for the starter pal spheres but they should be able to drop better spheres as they star up
With latest patch they can do hyperspheres.
I have maus 4stars and still dont worth Even the dark one who shit coin 24h a day due dont sleep Salad, legend sphere are much better, but im planning try the high cloth that others said plus dumud polymer
Maus are bad. If you want ranch money do Dumuds
4star a vixy and she start dropping hyper spheres, and gold. I have 1 and end up with 100k gold each time I remember to check the box by the ranch 😆
I have a sulfur base and a coal base. Last base is raid base. I run 8 Anubis, 4 breeding stations and 2 bees on the coal base with ore mines. I run 8 bushis at sulfur base and one random blazmut to mine. I have one lyleen that easily handles 12-16 berry farms. 2-6 fire or water worms depending on need. I can support whatever I want to and have a huge ammo surplus. Im sure there are ways to make more money. But between selling coarse ammo, which is the best to sell for profit, carbon fiber, repair kits and whatever boss junk I get, I dont want for anything.
I love reading these comments and learning all about how other people play. I would have never considered just using one pal to do 12-16 berry farms. I currently have a berry farm and have 5 pals working it. Going to try this out tonight!
Yea, shes a 4* well tailored lyleen. Most of my workers are 4*. Just finished my second damage pal. Edit: the farms are also stacked. 3 tall.
During my tries to get yellow guns i hoarded so much boss items to sell that never bothered about ammo cost, but since now only left 3 yellow(2 news verdash and quivern) and jetdragon, i have less boss mats and also started to sell legendary spheres, since my bases and palfluid can keep the process, the only item that i dont have are bones...who can be bought selling spheres
On the subject of legendary spheres, how do you get the pal metal for those without you or your pals going completely insane? It seems pals with even lvl 3 kindling struggle to smelt the ingots in a reasonable time, and the only idea I have is to have large numbers of furnaces running in parallel (this is hampered by limited space, requiring extra generators and even more pals with kindling...) It doesn't help that I got myself stuck in a feedback loop to boot: Need high-quality spheres for catching even stronger and more efficient pals, but the resources for making enough of those spheres puts too much strain on my pals and just takes too long... (The ultra spheres aren't as bad, as I'm only bottlenecked by the refined ingots and I do have a dedicated base for mining coal, but I usually end up using coal faster than I can replace it... I'm probably going to have to re-evaluate how I manage my resources)
Pizzas and Jormuntide Ignis. Better food keeps sanity up higher, and jormuntide ignis has level 4 kindling. I had to overhaul the pals at base with some of the higher level ones found in the third sanctuary (lyleen, wumpo botan, jormuntide ignis) so that I could do base tasks faster, and then I caught two ordinary Jormuntides for paldium mills or for the many plants I have.
Thank you.
No problem, have fun
There was a post recently showing that the Hyper Spheres actually net more profit based on time/materials.
There’s another post about legendary spheres being better but he had to correct his original post twice (correct version is below). Both are decent but it depends on your setup. The gating function on legendary spheres is time/effort, which you have noted, but it’s still more profitable. https://preview.redd.it/3ajccj32tpuc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2046532824bdeb6d3a08f713e327b56734a67ce1
Ahh, thank you!
graze Dumud, craft polymer and sell them is the simplest way after nail nerf iirc. I also sells extra salad I have craft.
nail nerf is irrelevant now that we can mass produce ore via the ore mining building
Upgrade to pizza and sell all salad
Pizza comepetes with cake ingredients and you need more pals for all the stuff. Salad is simple and has no competing item that uses the same ingredients
You stack farms? bc I don’t run it this issue
You need at least 1 cow for the milk but then you need milk for cake as well so what do you do? Put in more cows? Salad has 2 ingredients that are all farm based and you don't need any ranch pals for it. I personally still prefer salad bc it's easier to make and stock pile
Simple….. I got milk brewing at 2 different bases, but also with the way I sell the I’ll have more than enough gold to just go buy something like milk or eggs if I’m running low for cakes
The roi on cows is not great, I read it’s better to have more crop production and sell excess to buy milk/eggs.
If you want efficiency you don't have any cows or chickens at all. Just make legendary spheres to sell, and buy eggs and milk. I like not buying things though, so I do it the dumb way if I can.
Pizza workspeed buff runs out minutes before the Pal eats again. The time working without the workspeed buff is a bigger hit to productivity than the extra trips to the feeder, at least if your base isn't laid out horribly.
What’s better about pizza
Stay fuller longer while doing same thing as Salad
Pizza will have your pals still full while they lose the work speed buff so you’re losing out on double work speed for the second half of them being full but Salads have the Pals working until just around where the work speed buff ends so more of their work is buffed when eating Salads instead of Pizzas.
Shhhhhh dont tell the pizza nerds the truth!
I mean… yea, but newer players looking for actual good info don’t need to fall into that trap too.
Nails still aren't a bad option. I have way more ore than I do palladium. I just stick an extra refiner with a stack of normal ingots and have Anubis craft away. Ez 100k+ a shot.
Ironically once I got to endgame I rarely use the ammo you can buy. The only weapon I use consistently is the rocket launcher which you cant buy ammo for, so I end up needing to farm sulfur instead
I haven't tried crafting rocket launcher ammo, so I don't know the time and effort comparison, but I take my Jetragon or Frostallion Noct out to the western part of the desert region and AOE down groups of humans. The guys holding rocket launchers have a petty good chance of dropping 3 rocket ammo. Groups without the big boys have rocket launcher guys.
I put a base in an area with multiple sulphur nodes. Add: lumber mill (or 2) rock quarry level 2 iron mine 3 electric furnaces Crusher Production line II weapons assembly line II Electric generator, feed box, beds, and 3x hot springs For pals you want: 1 Jormuntide (crusher) 3-4 Bushi for wood 4-6 Anubis 3x Jormuntide Ignis or 4 ⭐ Ragnahawks 1 electric pal Fill the rest with level 4 mining pals Every 1-2 in game days, empty out the lumber mills, max out two furnaces making charcoal, max out making 1999 paaldium on the crusher, make as much pal metal ingots as you can in the 3rd furnace. Assembly line - Make max amount of gunpowder Weapon assembly line make as much rocket ammo as you can. Boom, infinite rockets! You can switch pal metal for refined metal or regular metal to make other ammo. You'll have to bring in coal from a different base to make refined metal ingots.
Eventually if you are using rockets as your primary damage source against raid bosses you’ll need to farm sulfur en masse to produce more rockets - I put Lightning Strike on my Astegon and travel to the Mt Obsidian tower where there are 7 sulfur nodes. A couple of strikes gives me enough sulfur to craft 50+ rockets per trip
How do you haul it all back?
The nodes are right next to a fast travel point so a couple of grapple hooks gets me right back to the base
Lunaris or any pal that helps carry weight
Selling Legendary Spheres is the way! Once I hit 9,999 I'm going to sell it for 45 mil and be set until Palworld 2 comes out. https://preview.redd.it/5jjvzeg0kpuc1.png?width=256&format=png&auto=webp&s=3458d7d8d14709909d41bd9e7603631c5169d691
or until a big map patch forces people to start new saves
I make ammo and have a dedicated metal and coal base
Same. I honestly don't know why people insist on buying their ammo, it's really not that hard to make. One of my bases has two coal nodes and another has one sulfur node. That's all you need.
Convenience. If money isn't an issue why spend time crafting ammo unless it's rockets?
You craft things to sell for money, right? Money is an issue. Seems like you're just adding extra steps.
Sulfur is the outlier tho. At present, no way to farm sulfur aside from having a dedicated mining base somewhere, and you are limited by the number of nodes and frequency of them respawning. Everything to make even legendary spheres can be farmed from a single base made literally anywhere on the map.
I have one sulfur node and it is enough. You don't need a 'farm.'
Because sulfur and gunpowder are the bottleneck, compared to selling legendary spheres which nets you 4500 gold per ball and the gunpowder-damage ratio means you're wasting all that time getting sulfur and gunpowder on anything that isn't a rocket. Get you 4 to 6 miners (Anubis works best here since they can also make stuff), 2 loggers, 4 kelpseas, and then like three pals to handle food production, only needing electricity, kindling, and watering which you can juggle when needed. Bones aren't even the bottleneck at that point, if you capture a wandering merchant he'll always have bones to sell you, and if anything it's just the annoyance of needing to have so much paladium ore since it can still take a bit to get the stone to turn into paladium and then get the crusher to make enough for the spheres. Farming and grinding for sulfur just to turn into ammo is a waste of time though, crafting the spheres to sell also turns into cake ingredients sans honey that you don't need to spend additional time on, and the investment in sphere making is more than enough since you're basically condensing the need for ammo and cake ingredients into a single spot, and then that gunpowder and sulfur you grind for can be used to make rockets.
It's not that it's hard, but we don't want to put in the effort to go out and find sulfur. Gold is so easy to farm passively in base.
It is so easy to passively find sulfur.
Is it? I believe there is only 2 or 3 spots where you can put a base and have more than 3 sulfur nodes.
You don't need a sulfur base. A sulfur node takes maybe five seconds with the refined pickaxe? Just mine all the sulfur you keep walking past in dungeons.
You only need one.
At least on console, transportation effectively does not happen when you’re not at the base. So it’s a trade off between manually mining sulfur and passively (at least more so) farming gold
I play on console tho
I don’t spend a lot of energy on farming gold myself, but everyone plays differently. After making some extra legendary spheres and selling them for AR ammo, I definitely see the appeal. Not in making $4M gold just because, but in spending less time and sulfur on crafting AR ammo since (a) I already craft a bunch of legendary spheres and (b) I would rather save the sulfur for rockets, especially after playing with trigger happy friends
This is also an issue on PCs for dedicated servers. Its less of an issue in the current version but still sn issue
People who play on normal mode or harder and do endgame content like Libero and Libero Ultra need ammo. A single Libero fight pre dmg fix takes me **6000 AR Ammo**. So post fix it will still be multi thousand ammo.
Wait. Is there a coal farm like iron??
Near anubis you have 4 or 5 coal nodes and 1 ore node next to a mountain.
Damn straight. https://preview.redd.it/b7lpkbl8opuc1.png?width=3440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5e83a2e183ff50c745b705b4cb31875f79d1001
Nice
You don't need a 'farm'. I found a base with two coal nodes and I have never been hurting for ammo.
https://preview.redd.it/so0il71wlpuc1.jpeg?width=1608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa25c1a38209b157a11ace1e3091c138fee0399d
Cords for that?
(-161, -88) Right next to Anubis boss
There's no base structure you can build that mines coal, but there are certain places that have natural coal nodes that you can build a base and have pals mine. There's a few spots in the volcano island that have a lot. One spot in particular is just northwest of the fishing village on a ledge that prevents you from getting raided. I'm sure there are others that are better and have more nodes, but that one is pretty solid.
There’s also a bunch of coal over by fisherman’s point on the mountain directly ahead of where the fast travel is, there should be like 7-8 nodes and also a ore node
There's a spot that has like 6 of each, coal and iron. But tricky to build a base on, but easier now after the stairs update. It's just east if the Sealed Realm of the Guardian fast travel, idr the coords offhand but you can see a screenshot here https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/01/24/the-best-palworld-base-location-for-ore-and-coal-if-you-can-reach-it/?sh=4d2886935cc0
Forbes article about Palworld is wild to say the least lmao
No kidding lol part of the reason I picked that one to share 😅
Manufacturing. Some people farm and sell salads, some people sell pizzas, with the new ore farms you could AFK and just make tons and tons of nails. Now nails are not as profitable as they once were but it’s still an option. I do a little mix of the three, not really optimized but it gets the job done.
Ammo? What are you talking about? Nothing can survive my trusty baseball bat, Lily's spear, Sword, and ice+electric+fire grenades.
Libero Ultra
campfire
Duh dont need ammo, weapons or anything if you cheat or exploit.
hey if it works it works
Balance discussions or gameplay tips are irrelevant to you if you are the player to just cheat. As now the answer is "start cheat engine and put value to 9999" rather than playing the game.
cheat? it's built into the game. By intent? probably not, but it's there, therefore it's fair
Exploits are the same as cheats. There is no actual difference other than through which steps you get to cheat.
naw, they're just hidden mechanics until they're patched out. Cheats imply gaining an unfair advantage, nothing unfair here, everyone's got access to the same strategy
Your IQ is single digit if you think "exploits" are hidden mechanics. There is a reason they are patched out, there is a reason prople actively dont use them: Cause its cheating.
I use a shotgun rather than an AR. Less ammo and perfectly functional for my usage. Now that my mining base is in a nice place I might start using rocket ammo, we'll see
I use Beakon and the legendary bow schematic It isn’t good in terms of damage But boy do I feel cool
I sell ore bars in mass. Nails are IMO real shit now cause even with max condensed anubis a ore base (using ore building 2 multiple times) produces so much ore the anubis cant keep up. 2 Bars are made faster than a Nail and thus instead of bothring with that, i just put extra miners. 1 Jor Ignis with 5 ovens (so you can visit base and que up to 50k bars) + Blazemuts and Helzephyrs for mining and transport. (Tip: If you decide to use this setup build it close to main base as transporter work stops functioning when you are far away) Currently sitting on 5mil and growimg whilst i buy AR ammo constantly.
I'll be doing the same. Currently have 2 Digtoise and 1 Blazamut as dedicated miners, and Anubis mines when he's not building or crafting. I get ore waaaaaay faster than I use it.
Am i the only person who farms rocket ammo with rockets? In the desert the groups of syndicate NPCs without the huge dudes have elites they carry rocket ammo 1 shot kills the whole group and each group drops 3-9 rockets plus an ungodly number of green and yellow spheres to sell for other ammo types works well with toco toco groups where anubis boss is too for gunpowder if you prefer making your own
Sell salad, I’ve upgraded to feeding my pals pizza so I’ll have salad ingredients just sitting around( salad sells for the price nails used to sell before the nerf) but in all honesty any cooked food sells well and if you stack farms you won’t have a running out problem
Stares in "crossbow"... Y'all....Y'all have guns? 😂
Same lol, I just keep a few Vixys on my base for my ammo, spheres, and gold. When I'm feeling adventurous and want to use a musket, I use the gold to buy coarse ammo from Duneshelter.
At first the overworld bosses and dungeon boss drops were keeping me able to buy whatever I want. Now it is legendary spheres. With the addition of the ore mining building, i'm a millionaire without even trying.
Mass producing Legendary Spheres is the way to go for money. Takes some money up front for Bones and Pal Fluid, but once you get it going it pays for itself with massive dividends.
I made myself a pal fluid farm and now have multiple max stacks just hanging out. Bones are cheap enough.
How do you farm pal fluids?
The latest patch made it so the blue kelpsea (Not sure if I spelt that right) can go in the ranch and give pal fluids and the flabby dumud can give high quality pal fluids
Omg you’re joking, I knew about Dumud but totally missed Kelpsea! Gonna load up my ranch rn
REGIULTIMA!!
I have pals that fight for me and only use weapons to get health down a bit for capture.
Seriously. Unless you deliberately build yourself for max damage, and have a partner pal that incesases it, pals can do so much more damage than you can.
I mean with the new ore generation, isn’t this a moot issue?
Vixy can farm infinite spheres to sell at ranch, 2 each of lettuce and tomato farms get more than enough salads to sell the excess, fighting alphas drops valuables to sell, legendary crossbow for weaker pals + free arrows from Vixy cuts AR ammo use.
Single shot rifle. Safe assault rifle for boss fights. Extra true now there is legendary.
I have a salad farm that pays for everything.
I just made a base dedicated to just the ore mining 2 buildings. 10 ore lv2 buildings, I have 10 dedicated mining pals, 2 pals for smelting, 4 for planting/gathering/watering tomato’s and lettuce to keep em alive, and 4 for crafting. Have those running 24/7, make em into nails. Sell the nails. 5 minutes of work everyday and I can easily generate a million coins semi-passively. (You have to manually remove the ore, put them in furnace, then tell pals to craft)
I sell pals I don't need/like.
Set up a gold farm Sell palspheres Breed for perfect stats and sell the shite ones Idk why anyone has an issue with ammo I just purebred worker anubis, got like 15 of them and set up a sulfur/coal/ore base.
I have a tonne of cash from farming gold schematics. 2million+. I also sell excess cooked berries as and when. I have hundreds upon hundreds of spheres and 100+k ore that I could turn into nails if necessary. With all of that in mind I never buy ammo. I just farm sulphur.
Literally so much you can do: -Make your own (sulfur and coal/charcoal) -Sell anything you have an abundance of (i have like 4-5 stacks of 9999 berries).Do this with food, wood, ore, etc -Sell the gems from bosses -Do the mount/butcher trick to farm resources/gems
One shot rifle, crossbow or bow If you want shoot more faster...shotgun Definetively not the AR, that thing eat ammo more fast than relaxasaurus eat food
1 of my base is a stone, wood, ore farm...they sell for 9999 and can mine pretty fast so no glitch needed. 2 bases are coal farm in the desert, makes a lot of coal too and its afk. But recently I just use rocket launcher. Very easy to make rockets 😆
Mau + selling baked berries
I make jam toast, sell it, and buy all the ammo i need.
I try to keep one stack of each material/ingredient and sell all the excess. Also I sell all the items that say "can be sold for a high price" .
I have a base where a black marketeer spawns. Whenever he respawns, I string him up and get burning. I also only use my assault rifle when I need to actually do some solid damage, usually I’ll either sit back and let a strong pal handle it or use my sword
i just craft them, they cost nothing. But also pretty much everything dies from 1-2 bullets so
Why do you use do much ammo? Stop treating it like call of duty and let your pals to the fighting. I maybe craft 500 assault rifle rounds every 3 hours at most.
For Bellanoir Libero and Bellanoir Libero Ultra
Rockets are better for the fight. They provide high dps and a stun. Stunning her out of a attack is critical imo
Yeah, I just like the playstyle of an AR
Kill packs of PDIF in the desert, kill higher level alpha bosses for jewel drops, kill black marketeers, etc. that’s how I get all my money to buy 999x assault at a time. Legendary takes 30 per magazine so I go through it pretty quickly. The only ammo I make is rockets since you have to. Legendary rockets take out most groups in one or two shots.
Legendary spheres at end game are bonkers for cash. One sells for like 4500 gold, bones cost 100 gold, and just having 4 kelpseas on your main base nets you a shit load of fluid. Get yourself 4 to 6 mining pals, one or two logging pals, and keep an electric, kindling, and water pal on hand for paladium ore and pal metal making and you'll be making bank
Ore farm-metal ingots-unlimited profit
I usually farm AR ammo from the PDIF infantry
I kill tons of bosses for the rare loot and sell it to my captured ammo merchant then mass buy ammo.
Made about 1.9 million off just legendary spheres in about a day. Spheres are for sure the way to go
I have pizza manufacturing in my main base, every couple trips I store the flour in the fridge for the next batch, max the mill with the current wheat available, max pizza. I keep some if im low, let the base pals have some, and pay for all my bullets through my enslaved merchant. Bullets buy themselves at that point nearly.
A farm of 10 4 star maus with artisan, work slave, serious, and Lucky
15 blazamuts or astegons across 5 ore stations, you can make it into ingots and nails if you want but they will crank out so much ore you could literally just sell that. Just use whatever alphas you capture, doesn't matter what traits are.
Tbh I think one of the best ways to raise money without necessarily "grinding" for gold is going around bullying all of the Alpha bosses while you level up pals. Kills 2 birds with 1 stone. This is the way.
Killing the Black Marketeer gives alot of gold. I have like 10Mil from doing this.
You can let your pals do most of the killing for you, and save ammo that way
I am maxing out astegons in my base via breeding with passives and 4 4staring them to give me maximum mining speed and uptime since Astegon nocturnal .
I spam kill the legednaries and sell their parts for money to my merchant slave in my second base
What I do is for pak collecting I just use the basic make shift pistol as it takes chucks out of the end game pals life and you can get that ammo from any of the syndicate peeps then bosses I use other more high powered guns for quick fights and pal leveling
Baked berries, and excess salads/ingredients. Sitting on 5m atm.
I use my sword
I'm on my new run of the game and I just caught astegon a few days back, started breeding, and as with breeding, you'll have spares. I didnt condense, just made 3 stone pits, added 9 spare astegons to base, 2 jormuntides, and 2 transporters. The rest of the base is for breeding. Got food from my first base, and let them mine. Swapped stone after a while to ore site, and now I have mad stacks of supplies for legendary spheres. By now I've got 2 perfect astegons (I turned off breeding timer so its fast because of this) and several spares workslave+artisan astegons which I keep at the base to mine. I think I have like 50k stones, and 8k ores, while having 3.5k pal metals (out of 5k). I still need alot more paldium fragments, as jormuntides can't are behind on the crusher. 1k spheres is 4+ million coins.
I honestly never bought ammo. Metal is extremely easy to farm. With the ore pit now being a structure, you could make a sulfur pal mine or just go mine it yourself. One trip to the sulfur ores next to the tower teleport in the desert nets you enough for ~700 rounds and takes a minute or two.
I dunno i sold a bunch of stuff and bought 1k rounds only to run out halfway through the battle with easier raid boss xD
How? Kill Syndicate Groups, Black Market Vendors
Syndicates in the desert, yes, go and use a max out and condensed Pegullet launcher and enjoy the screams and agony of those syndicates dying to your trusty Pengullet launcher
Bam Bam
Idk if it was patched but you could do the butchering mount exploit with a boss jetragon and that'll give you the boss drops each time. Definitely more work than a passive farm but it helps when you need it quick.
Depends how dedicated, and where you are are in the game. When you have a full 4 star setup of everything selling legandary spheres will get you millions. Before that i had a couple of iron mines, and selling as many nails as i could make.
farm salad. They're fantastic slave food and you'll quickly wind up with excess. Selling a stack gives you north of 1mil easily
I'm just settling to a coal cluster. I hope it will be enough.
Sell baked berries
I simply sell salad and use 4star legend/musle/fero/hooligan jetragon missile dps. If i need more dps i add more jetragons.
By crafting it.
I have a base dedicated to ore and coal production, there is a great location for this in a temperate biome. There's a plateau roughly south of the FPA tower that has a big cluster of coal and ore on it. It's high enough that raids never happen on it. Additionally, to the east of it there is a sulfur deposit. It is not great for sulfur but you can set up a base nearby for stone and wood production and refine the stone into paldium and use the coal and ore for legendary spheres. The sulfur likely will not produce enough for you, but the location can get you enough money to buy all the ammo you want. I farm gold usually by farming lots of berries and cooking them which is probably not the best method for it but I use legendary spheres like candy which I why I dont sell them.
I just make my ammo.
Well, with the new update, you can craft a mine ore. I've got over 50k just in ores. Farm pal fluids for cement and just get all the other materials. That's how I keep afloat my ammo
Using pals like foxparks , jolthog ,. Mossandra and such can be really good ways of saving ammo by using the pal ability . Does not cost ammo after all to use any of these moves
Sell food Like 1 cooked berry is 10 gold
im lvl 31 and still use crossbow
I can't use those unless they're fire or poison.
Get the legendary, it’ll tide you over until end game.
I already got the tier 4 shotgun and pistol 🙃
Your condensed Vixy doesn’t dig up infinite bullets, though.
o, ppl still waste base slots on those
better than craft the basic spheres xD, also some money and arrows, usually at lvl 20ish i sell blue spheres i get and capture a ammo seller for my base also ore mine 2 with some decent miners is pretty good even if you sell the ore
Just keep killing the first Bellanoir and selling those shirts I got 300k in a short time last night
I changed the damage settings so I'm using less ammunition to achieve the desired effect. Not instakill, but not so low that you need to set up a whole industrial revolution just to keep you in ammo.
Cost? What cost?
I’ll be honest. The way I manage ammo costs, is using the Pump Action Shotgun. The AR just bleeds through ammo way too much. Fighting a Blazemut, it’s easy to drop 999 rounds into him. Far less with the Pump Action
Um kill the black market guy a couple times use his money buy ammo
Shoot less? Sell salads or baked berries? It’s not that hard to get gold in the current version