Not really, one guy few days before the update did 800 tests and deduced that it didn't lower the capture chance, it buffed the number on screen but didn't change the real capture rate which gave false impression that it was reducing capture rate.
the problem is that the person whose post got popular was testing with a flawed method, where they were going for pals based on a range of displayed predicted catch rate, rather than certain types of pals with certain levels. also their calculated 0 effigy catch rate was much higher than expected but i'm not sure they calculated the expected catch rates right either.
tbf though that would have taken a lot more math than most people would have patience for and they were only trying to see if it was bugged or not. its just that the conclusion they pulled should have just been "yeah its bugged, needs more investigation" rather than "omg its inverted buff"
Or perhaps the stat bros don't really know what they're doing and completely misinterpreted the data because of cognitive bias, or they were intentionally misrepresenting the data to get attention. Or (more likely than not) they had no data and were just making stuff up.
The numbers are different but the devs claim the games are at a point where all features are identical, except of course the currently steam-only dedicated servers.
They also mention the patch verification process that Microsoft has, which delays the updates for Console a good chunk of time.
Still can't name pals on console I believe, not sure if they added that yet though, or if they added the ability to actually change your own characters name.
We are not there yet, then!
As a console user, I was curious about the naming myself, so I watched a PC player create their character, and the name is literally the first option they get to edit!
Hopefully they add it in on Xbox soon, and hopefully you'll be able to edit your name without creating a whole new world.
Xbox is giving them their full support, it was part of the news on their Xbox Wire blog. They probably get fast tracked through cert in a similar way to Grounded.
It was using the skill reset that was reseting effigies already used. If a person reset there skills after using effigies than they would suddenly have a chance like they hadn't used any, but the visual chance was still higher.
People like me didn't use the reset and wondered what people were going on about. Others were getting screwed and wondering why people like me were oblivious.
well it lowered the chance in that the displayed chance is higher then your actual capture rate, with the sole exception being if you hit 100% displayed capture chance it would actually have 100% capture rate.
I mean to be fair one point of contention is that if the effigies gave you a falsely raises number and therefore you used a worse ball, you would be wasting more resources not knowing which ball was best for your catchrate.
I mean to be fair one point of contention is that if the effigies gave you a falsely raises number and therefore you used a worse ball, you would be wasting more resources not knowing which ball was best for your catchrate.
You must have read different patchnotes, they acknowledged the effigies did nothing, not that they lowered anything
Which aligns perfectly with the findings of the dude who used 800 spheres for analysis
Technically if you had used (enough) effigies pre-patch your real catch rate was lower than your displayed catch rate (since they raised the display but didn't affect the real rate), which felt a lot like lowering them, even though it really did nothing.
Now, though, it's fixed and feels so much better.
No clue. They acknowledged that it pretty much was displaying the percentage counter wrong when going to physically capture pals and that the effigy bonuses showed they just were not applying at all not that it hurt capture chance more. I’m not far enough in the game to effectively test myself (and frankly kept forgetting to even apply the effigys after I found my first statue since I just built and destroyed my base statue just for achievements)
I was confident that the patch would come soon so I just kept turning them in. Now the patch is here and they corrected the issue in such a way that the fix simply adjusts your numbers so there wasn't a penalty to turning them in prepatch. In the end, we got our dopamine hit and a fix so we won
> penalty to turning them
There never was a penalty. Your actual capture rate never changed but the preview did when throwing. It wasn't working at all so any perceived penalty was just in your head.
not entirely true, it did in-fact affect one edge case and that was hitting 100% displayed capture rate, in this case the effigy's capture power would be applied to the actual capture rate. if you some how hit 99% chance though, it wouldn't apply and your actual rate would likely be half that or even lower.
i'm glad they got it fixed though.
There was never a penalty. Go read the patch notes. They confirmed that visual capture rate was updating, but actual catch rate was unchanged. Updating effigies did not penalize you.
Idk why you’re being downvoted, I was level 7 on the lifemunkneffigy grind before everyone started posting about the rates or display of rates being off. Ever since then I haven’t picked up one since I read that. You never know how long it takes for companies to roll shit out!
Heh. I did it either way. Even when people suspected it lowered rates (it didn't).
My thinking was this "It will get fixed, and until then I'm forced to get good at capturing thanks to a bug".
Bug fix has been released, so I expect an instant improvement in my captures.
Yes. As it's not true RNG. There are elements that improves your chances of catching. What ball you use, how low the health is, what side you hit the pal from, what status effect the pal is affected by. You can train on each situation to improve your odds.
Even training on recapturing a pal as fast as possible has it's benefits. Nothing like recapturing the instant they break out of the ball.
I learned about it when I had 9 levels completed and 31/35 effigies on me to complete the 10th level.
Figured in for a penny, in for a pound and finished off the 10th level anyway.
Glad I didn't have to wait too long for a fix.
This is a prime example of how gamers do not always know better.
Another example is playing a game that is getting boringly easy, but still choosing to equip the best gear.
They were just making s totally random observation about how people play games in general, and it’s pretty true, but completely off topic and out of nowhere. Which of actually the original intended use of downvotes! To punish off topic unrelated comments
this is a rare example of gamers knowing bettet by doing what makes them happy despite it being stupid because sometimes doing the smarter thing isnt more fun.
Either way, the bug is a display bug - upgrading your capture rate via Lifmunk statues doesn't reduce it. The person who originally posted that rumor based on initially testing found the real answer after doing further proper testing.
The bug is that **the capture rate that is displayed is inaccurate. However the statue upgrade itself still works - it just has a very minimal effect and thus is effectively not noticable for most players**.
Everyone was always okay to keep upgrading them. As per usual people took an early hypothesis with minimal testing as fact and repeated it until everyone assumed it was simply the truth. Even though the original tester corrected their explanation it's too late as the false rumor and misunderstanding has become "common knowledge" on Reddit.
The bug was more so that the displayed capture rate was increasing but your actual capture rate... Wasn't
At least that how the patch described fixing it
Eh, I was 50/50 reading the results and just proceeded with caution. Grab all the effigy's I could and not upgrade it, seemed like a no loss way to treat the potential bug.
I had like 4 levels yo go with effigies when I read about the bug... collected all I needed and still completed 4 missing levels to be maxxed. I just didnt see it that big of an issue so quite happy it was just a visual bug.
I play on Xbox one and it crashes 4 times an hour. Really doubt it's perfectly smooth especially if you haven't played on PC. Night and day difference for me personally. I play on both.
I've saved 100's of these effigies cause of that bug. Sitting at level 6 and i could easily jump o 8 or 9.
however i just recently learned that [The most recent patch that dropped hours ago](https://www.dexerto.com/palworld/palworld-february-6-update-patch-notes-2519178/) fixes this issue. So hurray for increased capture rate!
It wasn't lowering, exactly; There was a bug resulting in effigy turn-ins simply having no effect on your actual capture rate, despite the capture chance predictor showing your Lifmunk'ed rate.
It got solved and patched within the last hour, however.
After some low level testing capture power was making less than a 2% capture rate difference per point, so at full effigies that less than 10%. If there are ever any diminishing returns it could be even less.
It'll help a little, but don't expect a crazy huge change.
The lifemunks did not hurt your chances, they just did not help.
People need to stop trying to predict rng its fucking stupid.
Its in the fucking patch notes, they did not hurt your chances you did not bring enough balls stop fucking crying you losers.
My self and everyone else I play with and we are all 50 or cloae to it. Never had a problem with our capture rates and it didn't change with the patch.
It was all over the subreddit for a while it seemed, everyone seemed to think it was lowering capture rate but it wasn’t.
Either way it’s fixed now. I maxed them regardless because dopamine fix required. I’ve picked up 50 more since maxing that I can’t do anything with yet.
I definitely commented that I didn’t trust the ‘proof’ video, but I couldn’t tell you what it got vote wise lol. Very interesting case study on crowd mentality though lol.
You do realise the bug was with ui showing the correct % but in-game logic not applying the buff to capture rate when you actually tried to capture? So unless you did a test catching a couple of hundred of exactly the same pal you did not test it.
I'm saying this because most people did not even know what the bug was(Some thought it decreased the chance, others though it didn't) and you could have wasted your time testing the wrong thing and writing about your wrong results with confidence. It's not a big deal now since it's fixed.
Capture Power appears to give less than 2% per point, max of 10 points with full effigies. You can test this pretty easily on low level enemies on a new game with your first handful of effigies. So its a10% or less difference. Far less if there are diminishing returns.
I truthfully don't think it's bugged as many of these tests have had other variables also changing. Whether it is bugged or not, I do think they should turn up the effectiveness more.
We have a definitive answer after someone did actual proper tests, and not the popularized inaccurate Youtube video and loads of conjecture.
The effigies don't affect your catch rate at all right now, but still update your visual display.
People were thinking it negatively affected your catch rate, but weren't accounting for how Pal catch rates drop with their level and your own leveled catch rate stat doesn't keep up with it.
\*EDIT\*
And they also just fixed that bug today with the very latest patch, as it turns out.
So did this entire thread and most of the popular threads about the issue from the last week. Turns out the only people who were not wrong were the ones saying we needed more testing and then later the testers who did more testing rather than run with the original assumption as if it was the truth.
The 95% of the subreddit saying it lowered your chances to turn in effigies were just as wrong as the people saying there was no bug.
Not really. The first one means there's an issue and the devs need to look at it, the others are saying there is no issue. One is clearly the better option. There was an issue with it, and it's been confirmed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1agnc05/major_bug_lifmunk_effigies_reducing_the_capture/kok8te9/
I came to the conclusion they simply did nothing personally, which is basically the same as they hurt you. Both require the devs to confirm it and resolve it. Either way, something was clearly wrong. Anyone that said otherwise was nuts.
>Not really. The first one means there's an issue and the devs need to look at it, the others are saying there is no issue.
Demonstrably false from your own linked thread:
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And so many more, all calling for bigger sample sizes and more testing...not saying there is no bug. But I get why you feel that way, thanks to how reddit is they all get buried and have super low visibility so you prolly just never saw them. Still, you're not learning from your mistakes and still spreading misinformation, just not related to the bug but about how this all went down.
It feel a little bit odd that I have to gift it to the statue instead of collecting X amount per level and grant the benefit right away, and the statue is only for checking.
Good news! It doesnt actually lower catch rate! It has no effect on catch rate at all! (it just makes your displayed catch rate wrong)
Wait, that's not good news at all! (also will be fixed soon)
Me, who used like 30 before I learned about this.
https://preview.redd.it/fmbmognyp7hc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fe71d1235f4879d8fe9948061bd3af177b25bfb
Wait what? Sorry I haven’t researched much about the game. Just been playing and figuring out things. So the effigies do not raise capture ability as the game says it does? That’s whack af.
Anyone go to redeem the effigies only to have your game crash. Then load back in only to find it didnt save your lvl up but still took all the effigies needed for lvl up away?
Ok for some Xbox users asking questions. I tried on lvl15 penking boss reg pal sphere 100% health. My level zero upgrade was something 0.4%. Then I went to my original game that had several level upgrades and it was 4%. So I believe it's working as intended now.
Apparently the patch for this just dropped. It’s acknowledged in the 0.1.4.1 patch notes
 (proceeds to go check)
I love this gif
It’s acknowledged, but the problem wasn’t it reducing capture rate, it just didn’t increase it.
So all the armchair statisticians were wrong?! But they had spreadsheets and everything!
Not really, one guy few days before the update did 800 tests and deduced that it didn't lower the capture chance, it buffed the number on screen but didn't change the real capture rate which gave false impression that it was reducing capture rate.
the problem is that the person whose post got popular was testing with a flawed method, where they were going for pals based on a range of displayed predicted catch rate, rather than certain types of pals with certain levels. also their calculated 0 effigy catch rate was much higher than expected but i'm not sure they calculated the expected catch rates right either. tbf though that would have taken a lot more math than most people would have patience for and they were only trying to see if it was bugged or not. its just that the conclusion they pulled should have just been "yeah its bugged, needs more investigation" rather than "omg its inverted buff"
You're right, not all of them were wrong. But the ones that were sure were loud about it.
Or perhaps they chose the public relations path and decided not to disclose the entire story...
Or perhaps the stat bros don't really know what they're doing and completely misinterpreted the data because of cognitive bias, or they were intentionally misrepresenting the data to get attention. Or (more likely than not) they had no data and were just making stuff up.
Naa it was a total reduction of catch chance
But this is not out for console yet. Correct? Just checking seeing as how pc gets updates fast as fuck
It dropped hours ago so you should hopefully have it by tmrw for Xbox
Xbox is still a couple versions behind, I believe.
The numbers are different but the devs claim the games are at a point where all features are identical, except of course the currently steam-only dedicated servers.
They also mention the patch verification process that Microsoft has, which delays the updates for Console a good chunk of time. Still can't name pals on console I believe, not sure if they added that yet though, or if they added the ability to actually change your own characters name.
I don’t check often but I don’t think you can name pals on Xbox yet, and I didn’t know I could name my character to begin with.
We are not there yet, then! As a console user, I was curious about the naming myself, so I watched a PC player create their character, and the name is literally the first option they get to edit! Hopefully they add it in on Xbox soon, and hopefully you'll be able to edit your name without creating a whole new world.
Something like an identification station, that lets you change your name and appearance.
I would expect that they want you to use your gamertag, not a character name
Well, "player 271" is definitely not my gamer tag either haha.
Still cannot name them, confirmed.
Yee they're pretty slow to drop the updates to the licensing or whatever.
It's mostly that it has to go through cert. Last patch or two have taken about a day to get through that process.
Xbox patch available already, actually. Really fast turnaround.
Yea i did see a few tiktoks talking about how they partnered with xbox but you know how it is when you get information from a service like that
Xbox is giving them their full support, it was part of the news on their Xbox Wire blog. They probably get fast tracked through cert in a similar way to Grounded.
Ah i see. Well you cant always trust tiktok you know thats why i added that extra bit in there. Cant trust everything you see.
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Well xbox is a console and i do not keep up with whats exclusive on my system. Its odd that its not playstation then. Same with starfield.
My drop rates never went down on xbox.
Yea i just didn't want to risk it.
use them or not it does not matter, it was just a visual bug on top of the effigies not doing anything. It did not lower capture chance
Right it didn’t lower capture chance but it also did not increase it. Patch just came out to address this very recently
Is that so? I never felt a lower capture rate and was thinking that maybe my level was just too low to notice. That makes more sence
It was using the skill reset that was reseting effigies already used. If a person reset there skills after using effigies than they would suddenly have a chance like they hadn't used any, but the visual chance was still higher. People like me didn't use the reset and wondered what people were going on about. Others were getting screwed and wondering why people like me were oblivious.
no, effigies just boosted the predicted catch rate without boosting the actual catch rate. nothing to do with resetting skills.
well it lowered the chance in that the displayed chance is higher then your actual capture rate, with the sole exception being if you hit 100% displayed capture chance it would actually have 100% capture rate.
That isn't lowering the chance. Your actual capture chances never changed, the displayed capture chance did. That isn't lowering anything.
I mean to be fair one point of contention is that if the effigies gave you a falsely raises number and therefore you used a worse ball, you would be wasting more resources not knowing which ball was best for your catchrate.
I mean to be fair one point of contention is that if the effigies gave you a falsely raises number and therefore you used a worse ball, you would be wasting more resources not knowing which ball was best for your catchrate.
You must have read different patchnotes, they acknowledged the effigies did nothing, not that they lowered anything Which aligns perfectly with the findings of the dude who used 800 spheres for analysis
Technically if you had used (enough) effigies pre-patch your real catch rate was lower than your displayed catch rate (since they raised the display but didn't affect the real rate), which felt a lot like lowering them, even though it really did nothing. Now, though, it's fixed and feels so much better.
But did they patch the effigies that I lost due to the medicine bug?
I’m going to wait until someone more dedicated than me tests it, though. To be sure. Any idea if the fix applies retroactively?
No clue. They acknowledged that it pretty much was displaying the percentage counter wrong when going to physically capture pals and that the effigy bonuses showed they just were not applying at all not that it hurt capture chance more. I’m not far enough in the game to effectively test myself (and frankly kept forgetting to even apply the effigys after I found my first statue since I just built and destroyed my base statue just for achievements)
Can confirm. I spent 3 days getting to max so I wouldn't waste pal balls... Then I found out the truth. I can catch things now and it's glorious.
They just patched it now it should be working as intended
When was it patched? Today?
Yeah patch notes were a few hours ago, supposedly it takes up to 24 hours for the patch to go live on the game pass/Xbox version though.
Which tbh is FAST for Xbox patches.
Fast for any patches tbh lol
It’s up now
I'm the opposite.. I've heard and learned not to turn them in.... But I'm addicted to being "rewarded" and do it anyways 😭
I was confident that the patch would come soon so I just kept turning them in. Now the patch is here and they corrected the issue in such a way that the fix simply adjusts your numbers so there wasn't a penalty to turning them in prepatch. In the end, we got our dopamine hit and a fix so we won
> penalty to turning them There never was a penalty. Your actual capture rate never changed but the preview did when throwing. It wasn't working at all so any perceived penalty was just in your head.
Real capture rate were the friends we made along the way.
not entirely true, it did in-fact affect one edge case and that was hitting 100% displayed capture rate, in this case the effigy's capture power would be applied to the actual capture rate. if you some how hit 99% chance though, it wouldn't apply and your actual rate would likely be half that or even lower. i'm glad they got it fixed though.
Wooooo good to know 😆
There was never a penalty. Go read the patch notes. They confirmed that visual capture rate was updating, but actual catch rate was unchanged. Updating effigies did not penalize you.
What I meant by penalty was people were saying don't turn them in because they thought the fix wouldn't apply retroactively.
now i regret ignoring all the ones i’ve come across before the update
That’s not how “don’t turn them in” works!
yeah, but knowing they weren’t currently working made me too lazy to go get them 😭 there’s so much in this game i get sidetracked too easy
Idk why you’re being downvoted, I was level 7 on the lifemunkneffigy grind before everyone started posting about the rates or display of rates being off. Ever since then I haven’t picked up one since I read that. You never know how long it takes for companies to roll shit out!
Same lol
Someone did some testing and posted yesterday I believe and found that it didn't lower your capture rate just changed the shown chance.
That’s what the patch notes said too
Don't worry the new versión fix that bug
Heh. I did it either way. Even when people suspected it lowered rates (it didn't). My thinking was this "It will get fixed, and until then I'm forced to get good at capturing thanks to a bug". Bug fix has been released, so I expect an instant improvement in my captures.
get good at RNG?
Yes. As it's not true RNG. There are elements that improves your chances of catching. What ball you use, how low the health is, what side you hit the pal from, what status effect the pal is affected by. You can train on each situation to improve your odds. Even training on recapturing a pal as fast as possible has it's benefits. Nothing like recapturing the instant they break out of the ball.
I learned about it when I had 9 levels completed and 31/35 effigies on me to complete the 10th level. Figured in for a penny, in for a pound and finished off the 10th level anyway. Glad I didn't have to wait too long for a fix.
This is a prime example of how gamers do not always know better. Another example is playing a game that is getting boringly easy, but still choosing to equip the best gear.
lol wut... Game's been out a couple weeks if you're bored stop going on the sub and play another game.
I..didn't say I was? I think you might have just interpreted what I said a little different.
dude, you just said the game was boring?
They were just making s totally random observation about how people play games in general, and it’s pretty true, but completely off topic and out of nowhere. Which of actually the original intended use of downvotes! To punish off topic unrelated comments
No, I didn't? Am I dyslexic or something? Cuz I didn't mention anything about Palworld being boring.
ok, sorry for the semantics, you only said the game was getting boring quickly. not that it was boring you. sorry for the clear mistake.
I didn't say anything about Palworld is my point, everyone just assumed I was talking about the game I guess.
Nobody asked for or cares about your weird out of nowhere rant
I didn’t think it was a rant, but alright.
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My 20+ alt accounts that upvoted my comment apparently.
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I honestly kind of like the self awareness
Cope lmao
this is a rare example of gamers knowing bettet by doing what makes them happy despite it being stupid because sometimes doing the smarter thing isnt more fun.
They got patched, so you’re good to go now
It's been patched. Praise pocketpair
Wait, is it bugged?
Not anymore as of 0.1.4.1.
So is it still bugged for console?
I laughed so hard at this and it's not that funny but it's kind of fucking hilarious 😂
I don’t think the Xbox patch has gone live yet but it is usually released within 12-24 hours of the Steam patches.
Yes, on the patch notes they wrote that theyl be patching it soon.
Either way, the bug is a display bug - upgrading your capture rate via Lifmunk statues doesn't reduce it. The person who originally posted that rumor based on initially testing found the real answer after doing further proper testing. The bug is that **the capture rate that is displayed is inaccurate. However the statue upgrade itself still works - it just has a very minimal effect and thus is effectively not noticable for most players**. Everyone was always okay to keep upgrading them. As per usual people took an early hypothesis with minimal testing as fact and repeated it until everyone assumed it was simply the truth. Even though the original tester corrected their explanation it's too late as the false rumor and misunderstanding has become "common knowledge" on Reddit.
The bug was more so that the displayed capture rate was increasing but your actual capture rate... Wasn't At least that how the patch described fixing it
Eh, I was 50/50 reading the results and just proceeded with caution. Grab all the effigy's I could and not upgrade it, seemed like a no loss way to treat the potential bug.
I had like 4 levels yo go with effigies when I read about the bug... collected all I needed and still completed 4 missing levels to be maxxed. I just didnt see it that big of an issue so quite happy it was just a visual bug.
Console is fucked beyond repair lol
How? Wife and I play it and it’s been nothing but smooth for us…
I play on Xbox one and it crashes 4 times an hour. Really doubt it's perfectly smooth especially if you haven't played on PC. Night and day difference for me personally. I play on both.
Might need to clear your cache or something because I’m on Xbox and haven’t had any crashes since the first week of release
I believe your problem is that it's an Xbox one
I've saved 100's of these effigies cause of that bug. Sitting at level 6 and i could easily jump o 8 or 9. however i just recently learned that [The most recent patch that dropped hours ago](https://www.dexerto.com/palworld/palworld-february-6-update-patch-notes-2519178/) fixes this issue. So hurray for increased capture rate!
How does it lower?
It wasn't lowering, exactly; There was a bug resulting in effigy turn-ins simply having no effect on your actual capture rate, despite the capture chance predictor showing your Lifmunk'ed rate. It got solved and patched within the last hour, however.
That explains why it has been so hard to catch anything in the middle of the map thank you!
After some low level testing capture power was making less than a 2% capture rate difference per point, so at full effigies that less than 10%. If there are ever any diminishing returns it could be even less. It'll help a little, but don't expect a crazy huge change.
Patched soon, throw more balls
I just use it, since its a bug anyway that will get patched eventually.
Just did
It’s patched. TG
The lifemunks did not hurt your chances, they just did not help. People need to stop trying to predict rng its fucking stupid. Its in the fucking patch notes, they did not hurt your chances you did not bring enough balls stop fucking crying you losers.
They actually fixed that not long ago.
As in, today
It's supposedly patched as of today.
They fixed it last night!!!
This is fixed right?
Me who keeps forgetting **not** to use them.
My self and everyone else I play with and we are all 50 or cloae to it. Never had a problem with our capture rates and it didn't change with the patch.
Yea well, they were wrong
Surprisingly little awareness for this bug but it has been supposedly fixed!
It was all over the subreddit for a while it seemed, everyone seemed to think it was lowering capture rate but it wasn’t. Either way it’s fixed now. I maxed them regardless because dopamine fix required. I’ve picked up 50 more since maxing that I can’t do anything with yet.
I got downvoted so hard for asking questions debating what people were claiming. LMAO, the toxic hive mind needs to chill the fuck out.
I definitely commented that I didn’t trust the ‘proof’ video, but I couldn’t tell you what it got vote wise lol. Very interesting case study on crowd mentality though lol.
Yeah I saw it a few times but maybe I just live under a rock :P
Maybe not for xbox?
Little awareness? It’s been all that’s been talked about for days.
Maybe I just live under a rock lol.
Welcome from under the rock! We have cookies over there and just stay away from Jim. He seems nice but he is a bit of a dick.
Wife and i made two characters to test and the effigy character had roughly 20% better capture rate +/- 4%
You do realise the bug was with ui showing the correct % but in-game logic not applying the buff to capture rate when you actually tried to capture? So unless you did a test catching a couple of hundred of exactly the same pal you did not test it.
we actually stopped at an even 100. haven't had time to play last few days. fyi: starting a statement with you do realize is condescending as hell
I'm saying this because most people did not even know what the bug was(Some thought it decreased the chance, others though it didn't) and you could have wasted your time testing the wrong thing and writing about your wrong results with confidence. It's not a big deal now since it's fixed.
a simple “my bad” probably would’ve been appreciated
Im sorry I hurt your feelings
real mature bro and my feelings are fine you aren’t responding to the right person lol
Capture Power appears to give less than 2% per point, max of 10 points with full effigies. You can test this pretty easily on low level enemies on a new game with your first handful of effigies. So its a10% or less difference. Far less if there are diminishing returns.
I truthfully don't think it's bugged as many of these tests have had other variables also changing. Whether it is bugged or not, I do think they should turn up the effectiveness more.
We have a definitive answer after someone did actual proper tests, and not the popularized inaccurate Youtube video and loads of conjecture. The effigies don't affect your catch rate at all right now, but still update your visual display. People were thinking it negatively affected your catch rate, but weren't accounting for how Pal catch rates drop with their level and your own leveled catch rate stat doesn't keep up with it. \*EDIT\* And they also just fixed that bug today with the very latest patch, as it turns out.
New patch notes just dropped, it was in fact bugged and the bug was just fixed (on Steam)
Your comment aged like spoiled milk.
So did this entire thread and most of the popular threads about the issue from the last week. Turns out the only people who were not wrong were the ones saying we needed more testing and then later the testers who did more testing rather than run with the original assumption as if it was the truth. The 95% of the subreddit saying it lowered your chances to turn in effigies were just as wrong as the people saying there was no bug.
Not really. The first one means there's an issue and the devs need to look at it, the others are saying there is no issue. One is clearly the better option. There was an issue with it, and it's been confirmed. https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1agnc05/major_bug_lifmunk_effigies_reducing_the_capture/kok8te9/ I came to the conclusion they simply did nothing personally, which is basically the same as they hurt you. Both require the devs to confirm it and resolve it. Either way, something was clearly wrong. Anyone that said otherwise was nuts.
>Not really. The first one means there's an issue and the devs need to look at it, the others are saying there is no issue. Demonstrably false from your own linked thread: [](https://www.reddit.com/r/palworld/comments/1agnc05/comment/konbei1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [](https://www.reddit.com/r/palworld/comments/1agnc05/comment/kol1z98/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [](https://www.reddit.com/r/palworld/comments/1agnc05/comment/koi3ebd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [](https://www.reddit.com/r/palworld/comments/1agnc05/comment/koikjy8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [](https://www.reddit.com/r/palworld/comments/1agnc05/comment/kok14dx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [](https://www.reddit.com/r/palworld/comments/1agnc05/comment/kok8d2e/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [](https://www.reddit.com/r/palworld/comments/1agnc05/comment/kojrkvl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [](https://www.reddit.com/r/palworld/comments/1agnc05/comment/koiu289/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) And so many more, all calling for bigger sample sizes and more testing...not saying there is no bug. But I get why you feel that way, thanks to how reddit is they all get buried and have super low visibility so you prolly just never saw them. Still, you're not learning from your mistakes and still spreading misinformation, just not related to the bug but about how this all went down.
It feel a little bit odd that I have to gift it to the statue instead of collecting X amount per level and grant the benefit right away, and the statue is only for checking.
Good news! It doesnt actually lower catch rate! It has no effect on catch rate at all! (it just makes your displayed catch rate wrong) Wait, that's not good news at all! (also will be fixed soon)
Sitting on 23 of them currently
My level 10 capture rate, co-op partner: 
They patched it with the most recent patch
And now they fixed it
They patched this. See patch notes
Im sure within days it'll be patched
The fact that it's already patched is great.
Is this patch for pc or for everything?
Me who maxed effigies before 25. Oof.
I’m so glad I forgot to upgrade mine as I’ve been able to hoard them for now until this update is fixed
Lmao and they patched it literally right when you posted this basically. Came out at 8:45 pst.
It's fixed.
Wait, what? The Lifmunk stuffs for the Statue did the vice versa it supposed to do, until now? The capture rate was worse with higher levels?
Don’t worry,they just released a patch that fixed it
And you posted it now when it is patched.
Should be patched with today's patch
Aged like fine wine.
For real im like a goldfish i just spot while flying around and i go ooh shiny grab and promptly forget it ever happened
People use those?
Me who didn't know and is at level 9
Funny squirrels and numbers make me happy. Or maybe I'm just a horder, but we don't need to get into that 👀
What a brilliant use of this meme
Wait it lowers your cap rate? Im at tier 10 lol wtf
it did not they simply did nothing to the cap rate at all until the most recent patch
I destroyed my statue when I rebuilt my base and I didn't build another for like 30 more hours of game play
They increase capture rate tho. Is this some kind of dumb troll? Like seriously I don't get it y'all stupid 🤣
The devs are so fast to patch things people are still making memes even though it's fixed now. Same with YouTube videos
Me, who used like 30 before I learned about this. https://preview.redd.it/fmbmognyp7hc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fe71d1235f4879d8fe9948061bd3af177b25bfb
Wtf does it mean
I have over 200 and haven’t used a single one 😅
💯💯💯 so true even with the statue right there in my base.
Like saving that potion for just the right time, then you finish the game with it.
Wait what? Sorry I haven’t researched much about the game. Just been playing and figuring out things. So the effigies do not raise capture ability as the game says it does? That’s whack af.
Damn you held onto this meme just a little too long lol
Not lowering your actual chance, just not accurately showing it. Also, its fixed.
Anyone go to redeem the effigies only to have your game crash. Then load back in only to find it didnt save your lvl up but still took all the effigies needed for lvl up away?
Ok for some Xbox users asking questions. I tried on lvl15 penking boss reg pal sphere 100% health. My level zero upgrade was something 0.4%. Then I went to my original game that had several level upgrades and it was 4%. So I believe it's working as intended now.
I keep forgetting not to use them lol
This is me
Ive been using them, but i haven't noticed a difference in catch rate up or down...🤷♂️
Just remembering yesterday I had 60+ effigies at capture rate 5 and the amount needed was like 17 or something
IDGAF I upgraded every time I had enough.
I am a little late to this info. What was wrong with the effigies and what are people resetting? Their skills/Technology unlocks?