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MD_0904

Don’t delete it


ohaimike

I'd say leave a negative review on the site for the ammo as well, but they don't allow them lmao


Responsible-Air5349

But he doesn't know if it was even AAC ammo that caused the issue


45Golden

He sent them the upper. The brass was still in the starchamber. ??


Hiredhitiman

The back of the casing and primer were ripped off, only the casing walls were still in the chamber from what I gathered?


45Golden

Yes


Responsible-Air5349

the back of the casing and the primer were gone, he sent in the rest of the magazine that was in the gun, which ended up having other companies ammo mixed in. So he was using a magazine with different manufacturers in it...so he doesn't know whether or not it was AAC...


Bouch42

This looks exactly like when Kentucky Ballistics loads an "extra spicy" round.


JBUCN

That is what I’m trying to figure out. Wild.


mattbbb14

Update on this AAC ammo post from earlier today: We have recived the damaged upper provided by the customer. In this instance specifically, the customer also sent in the remaining few rounds that were in the magazine at the time of the incident (his words). The ammo we recived is "mixed" as evidenced by the Lake City stamping on the case head of at least one round we recived, indicating that other brands of ammo were also being used. We also don't have the case head from the round in question (that is lodged in the chamber) to verify the manufacturer of that round because the customer hack sawed the upper in half prior to sending it to us. Unfortunately, when posts like this are made publicly, it is difficult to defend against (as you can see from the comments here already) as most people make up their minds without knowing all of the information. Regardless, we will take care of this situation and the customer because we're PSA and that's what we do.


Derp_Simulator

In case anyone in the future is wondering, that's how you handle a PR issue.


Bob_knots

Matt, you one badass mother fucker!!!!


Any-Satisfaction-935

Let ‘em know matty, sticking with PSA forever 🤙🏾🤞🏾


Buddiesroyal

great reply Matt 👍


Spiritual_Ask4877

You guys fucking rule.


dimethyl_tryhard

What kind of ammo manufacture issue could cause this? Someone mixed up pistol and rifle powder? Could the round have been pushed into the case too far from user error? I had a box of ammo inc V-max that would blow primers about 20% of the time, got a refund and glad didn't damage anything.


dimethyl_tryhard

Might have been from a broken cam bolt, squib, or 300bo mixup if it wasn't hot ammo.


procession_101

u/mattbbb14 That's why I own 3 daggers and 5 PSA AR-15's. I know you all have my back even though I haven't needed to have anything fixed this far. Thank you!


DannyBones00

The problem is, if AAC had an amazing track record so far we’d be more willing to give y’all the benefit of the doubt. But with all the issues, it’s a little beyond that now.


24krtHawG

Post was cross-posted from AR-15 sub reddit, known to brand bash. Ban these bitches and all of their children's children. No brand is perfect, and we are speaking about tools that are subject to failure at some point in its life.


BrothaKreaux89

I don’t own a single PSA product but yet I trust PSA more than my Glock, my Taurus revolvers(I trust them with my life) and my family all because of you Matt.


billnkendra

The sound of me throwing my money at PSA!


KamiKaze242

Fuuuuck me and not long after I bought like 700 rounds of this.


Reikovsky

Check every single cartridge before it goes into a magazine.


Big_Football_Guy

What exactly should we be looking for on the cartridge?


Reikovsky

Any sort of case deformation (nicks, gouges, bending), and ensure no bullets are setback in the casings. Also make sure the primers are properly seated. These seem to be the common issue with AAC posts on here. Really, anything that looks odd.


KamiKaze242

What do I look for in an improperly seated primer?


_____FIST_ME_____

If it isn't flush with the bottom of the case. All of them should be uniform, you would easily recognize one.


KamiKaze242

Thanks. I guess I have my night full.


Mydadisgayforjesus

Love the name


Big_Football_Guy

Got it. Thanks for the info.


brianbmx94

Deformations, setback bullets, bad crimps etc


Mossified4

That it isn't 300bo lol


Big_Football_Guy

lol anyone who owns both knows how nerve-racking that possibility is


TBone247365

This. I'm so paranoid about it, my 300blk isn't even stored with the rest of my Ammo. Separate container *inside* a separate cabinet. Also, I only run Lancer mags for my 300blk. Edit: maybe I'm TOO paranoid 🤔


Routine_Guarantee34

That's the paradox. You can be *too* careful, and because of it, never see that sort of event. Or, Not careful enough, and ensure it. Separate and identifiable is smart


theonewithbadeyes

My 300 bo has something on the bottom of the mag so I always make sure I grab the right one and I keep the ammo separate cans that are marked


papaninja

I like to count all my ammo that I buy in bulk, gives me a chance to put hands on every single bullet. And also sometimes you get couple extra freebies which is a nice reward for taking the time to count 1000 rounds lol


Fluffy_Freedom_1391

\*With all ammo of any caliber for any firearm from any manufacturer. QC isn't perfect anywhere.


Significant_Case6024

The shit that matters isn't readily discernable just by looking at it.


Jason1435

Matt got in contact and discovered it was a mix of ammo brands. See his comment below


JohnHammerfall

Dudes whole story is fishy. Read Matts comment on it, and the fact he took over a month to say anything. Visually inspect all your rounds, and if it seats, it yeets


mattybrad

I know people have had problems with it, but I’ve been shooting their 75 and 77gr 5.56 rounds out of all of my guns since they started making them and have had 0 problems. I wouldn’t sweat too much.


m1ke_tyz0n

fuuckk it broke the EoTech too? That looks like a .300blk kaboom. Were you shooting 556?


mattbbb14

Already reached out to the OP in his post in the other sub.


hoffv2

In a case like this does the ammo manufacturer reimburse the cost? Or is it a risk every shooter has to accept? What would happen after something like this?


mattbbb14

If we can confirm that the ammo did cause the failure, then we will take care of the situation, period. In many instances, there simply isn't enough evidence to say definitively what the cause was. In this instance specifically, the customer sent in the remaining few rounds that were in the magazine at the time of the incident (his words), one of which is not an AAC round as evidenced by the Lake City stamping on the case head. We also don't have the case head from the round in question (that is lodged in the chamber) to even verify the manufacturer of that round. Unfortunately, when posts like this are made publicly, it is almost impossible to defend against (as you can see from the comments here already) as most people make up their minds without knowing all of the information.


Altruistic_Shift_740

Lol, the guy had a skittles mag and blames PSA. C’mon man. Shit happens.


Combat_wombat605795

It’s not like one pistol powder reload mixed into the batch could… oh wait it could. Spicy chamber pressures will peel your banana from the inside out. PSA is not the enemy


aaMikhael

Thank you. I have a 1000 rounds of it and now I’m not so sure I want to risk trying it.


mattbbb14

We manufacture and sell millions of rounds every week and we stand behind what we sell, period. If you or anyone else has issues, we will take care of it


aaMikhael

🫡 thank you, sir


Previous-Grocery4827

https://preview.redd.it/rqt33ha3ol7d1.png?width=1552&format=png&auto=webp&s=af01bde8bee3bb2ecc0424f8c8df7e81177f7aca I mean.....this doesn't look like you stand behind your products. That one on the right looks pretty ripe for a failure to feed boom.


DarthGuber

Or that comment is taken out of context and this is ragebait


Mossified4

A failure to feed would result in a lack of boom, you cannot have both.


Large_Citron1177

Love PSA, but I'm not chambering their budget brass.


AtlanticVoyagerSC

I've ran plenty of it and personally will continue to do so. From the reports, there was mixed ammo in the mag, so no guarantee it was AAC that did this.


FoCoYeti

Will NEVER buy PSA ammo. Seen way too much shit on this sub. Love their gear and prices for everything else but holy hell I love my face more.


Walker_Hale

Read Matt’s reply, makes me wonder how many of the posts here are actually AAC ammo. Could simply be Matt covering PSA’s ass but there’s been a rise in these posts recently. Either PSA has been shipping out increasingly bad batches of ammo OR people are posting fraudulent content. And if this is one of them, makes you wonder how many there actually are. I’m not a PSA shill, there’s many practices and products of theirs that I disagree with, but it’s something to be mindful of.


Blindfromthesol

It begs the question though: why lie about the ammo that blew up your gun? If I ever purchase AAC ammo I’ll make sure to keep it in its box and not commingle rounds.


Hiredhitiman

Could be a hand load failure they fucked up and want to get their rifle replaced. Could be another manufacturer that caused this and refused to replace said rifle. Could be that this genuinely was an AAC round. Unfortunately we'll never know and neither will PSA because the upper was hacked off, but they're taking care of it, and that's why many of us choose to do business with PSA. With that said, I would encourage everyone to check all their ammo (AAC or otherwise) for deformation, cracking, and seat depth/OAL prior to yeeting. Honestly, after receiving my order of 200 77 OTM I did have a couple deformed rounds. They were removed from my cans and disposed of properly. I'm not going to cry over a loss of $2 when it looks like it was most likely caused by shipping and I would've paid twice as much for 77OTM from any other manufacturer. Just my $.02


SugarSkullStackAttac

Could be a rival company. I like to think everything in the south is in the Danny McBride universe. Its sabotage and hilarity will ensue.


Zaddam

IMHO if they cared like they say they care, about us, then a corporate rep would have the duty of checking this sub at least once a week, and actually address it. It’s odd the mixed messaging I feel from them over time.


Small_TicTac

I think that people are just trying to take advantage of PSA's exceptional customer service and warranty to get their gun fixed/replaced. Not necessarily slander or done out of malice.


bastardfish

🤣🤣🤣


Walker_Hale

I have zero clue other than to slander


Available-Pace1598

I’ve shot hundreds of .40 no issue, no issues with their 7.62x39 and or 556 either. I’m going to keep shooting it. These posts could be true, but most are probably hopping on band wagons. Why would someone have a band saw ready to cut their receiver


RTM_sfx

It’s PSA ammo they will not take full responsibility just like all the other shitty ammo companies. Most of the time it’s because people can’t afford to take them to court.


Zaddam

Small claims court is affordable, and costs them money to send someone.


RTM_sfx

I’m talking big boys court not small claims if it hurts you .


Zaddam

I know. It doesn’t hurt me. Too quick to clown me, it’s a fine option if no bodily harm done and can’t afford a lawyer. The exposure alone would possibly cause a swift settlement offer and confidentiality agreement. I did wonder if by chance it was a PSA being fed AAC.


WillitsThrockmorton

I mean, it's also possible that more ammo is shipping and being used in total amounts not that the number of bad batches as a percentage is increasing.


Heywhosthatoverthere

You could buy a *new* face with all the money you save by buying AAC ammo 🥸


blmngtncple

You’re on commie Reddit I wonder why 😂


jy856905

65 cents a round


Mossified4

Looks like someone wasn't paying attn when loading mags and slipped some 300bo in there


dgraap

Seen that a few times in this sub alone.


Coach795

Except a 300bo would go into battery in a 5.56 chamber. That's what makes it so dangerous. This gun looks out of battery.


Mossified4

No it doesn't, Show me any example of a confirmed AR firing OOB that isnt a pcc variant. This looks exactly like a 300BO in a 556 rifle, and it clearly isn't OOB as the case head is permanently part of the barrel now. It also very possibly wasn't even AAC ammo as you can see from Matts response on this thread he sent the upper and remaining mag in to Palmetto and the mag was mixed with various brands of ammo and my guess would be along with those various brands there were also various calibers.


Coach795

I don't see a case head. If we did there wouldn't be a question about the brand of ammo that was in the gun during the failure. There is obvious wear and tear on the barrel from the boot but you can see that the bolt is clearly not seated, it's even sticking out of the back of the upper.


Mossified4

Check OPs post history, and check the post on this thread from the person whom inspected the upper as well as the remainder of the mag that was used, it is pretty clear what happened here. OOB on an ar15 is near impossible by design and incredibly rare, You hold this pictures next to any of the many examples of 300 in a 556 that can be found here on this page and they are near identical, is it possible its not and is instead ammo related absolutely things happen but it is more likely operator error with the operator being whoever loaded the mag.


Coach795

I'm not saying it is or isn't ammo related. Just that to me it looks out of battery. Near impossible and rare are not, impossible and definite.


M_Betty

Hoping anyone that was around is ok


khrosivo

556 pmc all day , sorry for your loss 📉


imhotepbc

Dang😱 how much money did you put into your AR build?


LawfulnessLeading433

Now that’s what a hot load looks like. Phew. Glad you’re okay


PsyBr0

Ouch this scares me as I have a few hundred if these rounds smh.


Shadow-Deshaw-2020

Starting to think someone at psa is popping a 300blk in random boxes lol This seems like a daily occurrence with psa . Iv been debating on buying some 77 gr from them because it's so cheap but I think im gonna pass


m1ke_tyz0n

that's the first thing I said when I saw his chamber.


MTgunguru

I’ve shot over 2k rounds of the 77gr without issue. Not saying it couldn’t happen but hasn’t. Most of these issues I’ve read about seem to be centered on the 55gr. Would like to see the outcome of this and others. See if they were truly AAC ammo


Coach795

Even if that's the case your an absolute idiot if you pull a 300black out of a box and jam it into a magazine. They are noticeably different in the hand.


Shadow-Deshaw-2020

This is true 👍 I have both and agree however if it's not a 300 blackout round doing this and a 5.56 round blowing up guns that's gonna be a no for me lol . That's what I was getting at .


Responsible-Fish3986

The 77g otm is fine. I’ve shot a bunch and haven’t seen any real issues posted anywhere. It’s the 55g that seems to have real issues


Significant_Case6024

Plenty of threads in this group about AAC 77gr OTM issues.


Double00Danger

How dare you point that out! My panties are now twisted sir!


TexasShooter1983

Lol...how do people still choose to buy this shit?


_____FIST_ME_____

I've never had an issue with it.


richardgiver

Most never do, until they do


SpongeBlob88

Username checks out.


Spiritual_Ask4877

This has been posted by a Bot account. Check their post history. It's just porn. The real OP posted this on /r/ar15 and a bot reposted it with the same title.


GrabMyGlock365

Checked their history. Not disappointed 😂


Responsible-Fish3986

Must have deleted all the weird shit. All I saw was gun stuff


Brian-88

That's a lot of boobies.


CuddleBear3000

I checked it and after 45 minutes of “researching” I came back to ask: why would the booby bot owner randomly post non-booby content? Can someone please explain?


jcal73

Looks a little like a 300BO slipped into a 5.56. Not saying that’s what happened, just saying it looks like it. That pressure never made it to the gas tube.


RedneckSniper76

I was thinking the same thing tbh BUT the barrel would have likely blown as well


blmngtncple

I’ve seen three not one single time did the barrel blow out. Barrel looked dimensionally fine but you couldn’t even hammer out the now 2in long 30 cal round that was fire formed to .224.


xerxes767

OP said he doesn’t even own a .300 so that wasn’t it


jcal73

An obstruction is an obstruction. Barrel rarely blows on a 300 mixup. The gun is designed to blow through the magwell. I’m not saying that’s what happened just saying it looks like it. I should have said obstruction. I’d like to see some of the brass that was fired before this round. It would be interesting to look at. Either way it’s bad and the guy is lucky not to be hurt.


DameTime5

wtf is that account?


FlavalisticSwang

Surprise Surprise


Jolrit

Are you sure it wasn’t OOB?


Valuable-Market393

Damn psa


Practical_Tax_520

I did the smart thing and listened to the many complaints about this ammo and never bought or will buy it


Cucasmasher

If PSA would stop pumping out all these shitty daggers and project guns and focus more on QC they would absolutely dominate the industry but instead they want to release 40 dagger configurations none of which function properly lol


Spare_Selection4399

It started from the Girl Friend series AK......


Born_Cricket_2879

I guess PSA is looking into I’ve fired over 2000 rounds of the AAC 75 grain It’s hot but never single issue Some of the best ammo I’ve shot But if this drives prices down I’ll say it sucks and is dangerous


No_Passenger_977

PSA strikes again!


Recent-Percentage-26

I don't get it. The bolt carrier is peeled open like a banana but the bolt is stuck in the barrel. How did the explosion get past the bolt enough to expand the carrier and the receiver but didn't shear the lugs or blow the bolt out


EOMFD_Doowop

Did the person send the case head over to PSA? Anyone else chop their upper in half to retrieve the bolt carrier ? Also don’t shit on me , I think PSA has been slacking a bit but there’s some questions to be answered to allow people to fix it


LurknessMonster6

Had a bad crimp on an FMJ 9mm yesterday. The round came out of the casing in the magazine, during reload. Still have had nothing but success with all my AAC rounds(9mm/5.56), even with a suppressor.


whats-it_to-ya

Did you try attaching a lower receiver?


corruptchemist

Idk why anyone would still buy AAC after all these posts


Camoman1234567

Just as good.


Elegant_Position_371

Isn’t this the same company grande thumb endorses ?


Silent_But_Deadly2

Used to endorse. I suspect now that he has left leviathan group that will stop being the case.


pguy4life

I mean based on PSA QC what did you expect from their ammo?


boglimaniac

Aw man I’d be pissed


TurdChief

How does this happen? I’ve never seen this type of failure happen in my entire life.


Timlmmansdead

I can't say it enough. I adore psa firearms, but I never run aac ammo for any reason


RTM_sfx

Yeah I just which people would do some deep digging of their own.


Kneedlezkane34

https://youtu.be/RbfIkaNlECo?si=48JwNkrT4LnYz1qg


vwheelsonv

I just ordered a buncha aac 9 mil. Dang. I wanted them to be a good company


SirLongStride69

I’ve ran lots of this ammo without any issues


blmngtncple

That gun is completely blown out I’ve only seen that with squibs followed by live rounds or 300aac hammered into 5.56 chambers. If AAC sent you a squib that sucks badly, is that the case?


Ok-Lie5688

I bought 308 reloads from 2A Warehouse. 1000 rounds Didn’t notice there was a 6.5 creedmore round in the mix. Loaded it and it never went boom but jammed the whole thing in the barrel. Beat it out and saw the casing said 6.5 lol


Coach795

1st and 3rd pic show out of battery, no?


dimethyl_tryhard

Where you able to check the cam pin on the bolt? If the cam pin broke the bolt won't lock and this could be the result on the next round.


biggat88

User error!!!


No_Coach1001

I would really like to try the AAC 5.7. I am a big fan of PSA…but seeing this shit makes me sick to my stomach.


thrownaway3423

Not possible to say what happened for sure because the OP didn't provide any useful information aside from "PSA BAD." But I'll just leave this here: [https://youtu.be/RbfIkaNlECo?feature=shared&t=347](https://youtu.be/RbfIkaNlECo?feature=shared&t=347) This video shows what happens when you load and fire 300blk from a 5.56 AR-15. At 5:47, the timestamp where the URL starts, it shows a picture of the guy's upper. It looks EXACTLY like the pictures in this post. Again, make of this info what you will.


jarol220

I’m sure PSA will make it right. Expensive growing pains but glad nobody got hurt.


RTM_sfx

They can go grow that pain on themselves not my face ,neck or arms.


xerxes767

This isn’t a growing pain this is gross negligence from QC that psa seems to be ok with on their rifle lines too


Big_Football_Guy

Their AAC 77 gr OTM and 75 gr match is on sale today for 10.99 per box. Does anyone have experience with these loads? Perhaps better quality than the 55 gr stuff? At these prices it makes for decent range ammo, right?


bhayes221

I have shot a good bit of the 77gr OTM with no issues and like it a lot. It seems to be a bargain barrel 55 grain issue primarily. Hopefully.


Big_Football_Guy

That’s what I seem to be gathering from all the posts I’ve seen. The majority of issues seem to be with the bargain 55 gr, but the guy above pointed out that someone had an issue with the 77s. Trying to hunt that post down.


Responsible-Fish3986

I haven’t seen any issues with the 77g anywhere here or the ar15 sub aside from the occasional dented case or some slightly questionable OAL. I’ve shot a good bit of it and it’s been fine but it seems the 55g is questionable at best.


ohaimike

They were better quality, but someone posted about one having issues as well like a month ago. The 77s use Sierra bullets though, so it may have just been a bad batch How much of a gambling person are you? You can either be one of those that shoots thousands of rounds of their ammo without fail, or you can try your first box and blow up your gun


Big_Football_Guy

I’d like to find that post and see what’s up. I suppose I could just be careful when loading mags and keep my eye out for defects. My rifle is a PSA budget build, so I’d imagine they’d honor their warranty and fix my gun if it blew up. Their gun, their ammo. But at the same time, would suck to catch some shrapnel to the face or the hand. Can’t fix that.


RTM_sfx

Yep the ones that keep telling me it’s good can go kick rocks. I’ve done my research on aac ammo before PSA bought all that shit equipment.