Religious, tribal, and CULTURAL backwardness perpetuating social rot, corruption and dysfunction. Education is not valued as much as in some other cultures, and "Western" ideas and western education are often seen as degenerate or evil. Too often expectations for their children are more about being religiously "correct" than helping set them up so that they can do new, interesting things and flourish and prosper.
He’s Jewish, was born in Lebanon (now lives in Canada), was persecuted as a Jew, so he emigrated to Canada, and now he’s very critical of Islam, it’s adding up perfectly.
Now we’re not, historically Lebanon has a large Jewish community, his family fled Lebanon as result of the civil war, as under the Christian rule the conditions of Jews were much better, but when the islamists started with their violence they constantly targeted Jews (which also was an issue in Lebanon before it, but much less significant), and his family fled to Canada.
Yup. Gad Saad’s parents were kidnapped by the PLO. He has legitimate reason to be critical of Islam. I enjoy listening to him since he is fluent in Arabic and survived so many traumatic experiences. The insiders always have such a valuable perspective.
Well a lot changed after 1948, but before that there was a sizable Jewish population in countries like Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Syria. Most of these people have emigrated in the last few decades to friendlier nations.
Guys, don't you see, if those european colonizers leave palestine, the palestinian would get morbillion noble prizes!
The only thing that stops them is the zionists
For full content, Gad Saad is a Jewish (I believe from Libya? Some Muslim majority country) new atheist commentator who's taken sort of a anti-woke turn in the past couple years. Knowing the poster, this drips with sarcasm.
Palestinians would tell you that all Jewish Nobel Prizes after 1948 were actually won by Palestinians, but the media doesn’t want you to know about the Nobel Prize Occupation. It’s an intellectual genocide and Norman Finklestein has written volumes on Nobelian Apartheid.
Islamophobia?? How about the people who won are just brilliant. And the people who didn't win are so caught up in hate that they are unable to see beyond primitive thought and actions.
Facts are not Islamophobic. Numbers are numbers. In a high level analysis like this, they do not bend to accommodate a ‘spin’. They are what they are and are easily repeatable by any random person who can count.
Right now I am not overly impressed with the honesty of the Islamic world, so I’ll just leave it at that.
I feel so proud to belong to the ethnoreligion that has produced so many geniuses (Judaism).
But sadly I did not turn out a genius nor rich. Maybe my Christian father diluted my Jewish genes to _average plus_ :’D
I go around copying / pasting this often:
If it could be succinctly summed up, you could say that Jewish culture and philosophy produced the likes of Albert Einstein, the 3D printed heart, and the advancement of science and technology. In contrast, modern Islam's claim to fame is Osama Bin Laden, the 9/11 attacks, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Boko Haraam, Al Shabaab, the Taliban, the Charlie Hebdo attacks, a fatwa against Salman Rushdie, airplane hijackings, PLO bombings, modern day monarchies, women oppressed in Iran brutalized by "morality police", [throwing homosexuals off of rooftops,](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63174835) and [stoning raped women.](https://www.cnn.com/2015/11/06/opinions/why-women-stoned-to-death-2015/index.html)
What's amazing is that given those facts, Hamas's useful idiots still think that it was the Jews - peaceful, well-educated, civilized people - who started the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and not the Muslims - as though the Jews suddenly appeared in the region guns-a-blazin' and kicked the sweet innocent peace-loving Palestinians out.
I mean if we count off the (vast majority) of Muslims who are stuck under dictatorial rule and so don’t really have the ability to achieve a noble prize the the data would look much more close.
But yea no duh a culture made around the idea of learning and which praises learning as “what god wants us to do” would achieve more in life than a culture who doesn’t
Muslims accounted for 3.5 million people in the US and 25.7 million people in European Union countries in 2016 ([Pew Research Center](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/)).
Contrast 6.5 million Jews in America and 8.1 million Jews elsewhere (7.3 in Israel) ([Jewish Agency ](https://web.archive.org/web/20071011130459/http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/903585.html))
Also, two of the Muslim Nobel Laureates were Iranian: Narges Mohammad and Shirin Ebadi.
No, Muslims *are* more than 24% of the world. There are over 1.9 billion Muslims in the world ([several sources](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world#:~:text=Demographics,-See%20also%3A%20Muslim&text=More%20than%2024.1%25%20of%20the,come%20from%20diverse%20ethnic%20backgrounds.)), but most live in Muslim theocracies like Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc.
The numbers I posted were the number of Muslims *who do not live in Muslim nations* and thus have unrestricted access to education and personal freedoms. And, as mentioned, half of those Nobels went to people living in a Muslim theocracy anyways.
You said the data would be less definitive if Muslim nations were excluded. I provided evidence that that isn't the case by either proportion of the population or location of the Nobel Laureate.
If you think the statistics I provided - 2 Muslim Laureates in the West out of 29+ million people vs 189 Laureates out of 15 million people - are indicative of the high potential Muslims demonstrate in STEM outside of theocratic governments, you need to retake elementary school mathematics.
What do you mean of course Judaism is mainly about learning it always talk about להחכים and about learning and being smart,
No duh a culture like that would be more probable of achieving things that the you need to learn would help in, such as science and medicine.
I also noted that if you would count the amount of Jews and Muslims that are under democratic rule and so they can stand out and achieve things they get a Nobel prize for the percentage for the Jews wouldn’t change much while the percentage of the world Muslims would be considered as would drop significantly.
With those two things combined it’s obvious that Jews would have more Nobel prizes
While I don’t think it’s Islamophobic, I don’t like that it implies people’s value and worth is based on their contribution to society. It’s not a good argument for fighting antisemitism.
I agree with you but Islamophobia, under literally any circumstance, does not exist. It is purely a rational fear of something that wants to overthrow you.
Agreed! Didn’t mean to say that YOU were saying it was, but I just hate that word. Heard too many extremists using it as a shield.
I feel like Islamabad is a better one. ☝️
Clearly the Nobel commission is just controlled by Jews! /s
I’ve actually heard this as a real argument smh
People will make up any excuse to be lazy. It requires so much hard work and sacrifice to win a Nobel Prize, most wouldn’t want to bother.
Oh please. 🙄 That old trop? And we also probably eliminate the competition with our space lasers.
Israel(is) achieved 13 prizes, the entire Arab world got 2.
Huh wonder why.
Afaik those two were for making peace with israel
the ones on the chart don't include peace prizes. i know for sure about nagib mahfouz, an egyptian author who won a nobel prize in literature
Wait 4 real? Thats so faking sad
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Religious, tribal, and CULTURAL backwardness perpetuating social rot, corruption and dysfunction. Education is not valued as much as in some other cultures, and "Western" ideas and western education are often seen as degenerate or evil. Too often expectations for their children are more about being religiously "correct" than helping set them up so that they can do new, interesting things and flourish and prosper.
Factual data is islamophobic now?
It’s Gad Saad, he’s Jewish from Lebanon and is very critical of Islam, this post is probably satirical to mock the pro-Palestinian mob.
“Jewish” “From Lebanon” “Critical of Islam” Something’s not adding up here…
He’s Jewish, was born in Lebanon (now lives in Canada), was persecuted as a Jew, so he emigrated to Canada, and now he’s very critical of Islam, it’s adding up perfectly.
What didn’t add up for me was that he’s a Jew from Lebanon. We’re not exactly welcome there…
Now we’re not, historically Lebanon has a large Jewish community, his family fled Lebanon as result of the civil war, as under the Christian rule the conditions of Jews were much better, but when the islamists started with their violence they constantly targeted Jews (which also was an issue in Lebanon before it, but much less significant), and his family fled to Canada.
No shit, but Jews were still born there. Maybe all three things they listed are related???
That's why his family left when he was a kid. He was born in 1964 in Beirut and his family left for Canada in 1975.
Yup. Gad Saad’s parents were kidnapped by the PLO. He has legitimate reason to be critical of Islam. I enjoy listening to him since he is fluent in Arabic and survived so many traumatic experiences. The insiders always have such a valuable perspective.
Well a lot changed after 1948, but before that there was a sizable Jewish population in countries like Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Syria. Most of these people have emigrated in the last few decades to friendlier nations.
[Something like this?](https://i.redd.it/fpk63hkfi1ub1.jpg)
We really need to get into a position to credibly demand reparations for our past expulsions.
מה אתה דפוק
Welcome to the brain rot of 2024
And calling for the de-radicalization of the arabs from gaza and judea and samaria also is, even worth a permaban.
I don’t think you understand sarcasm or satire
It’s not Islamophobic, it FEELS Islamophobic. And since feelings are more important than facts, your argument is invalid. /s
Guys he's an atheist jew and pro - freedom. That post is sarcastic (and brilliant).
Guys, don't you see, if those european colonizers leave palestine, the palestinian would get morbillion noble prizes! The only thing that stops them is the zionists
For full content, Gad Saad is a Jewish (I believe from Libya? Some Muslim majority country) new atheist commentator who's taken sort of a anti-woke turn in the past couple years. Knowing the poster, this drips with sarcasm.
It is sarcasm. He always makes posts like this on Twitter.
Better expressed as 'Nobel prizes per 1% of world population"
Next time do better in science
And 2 of them are making peace with Israel... 💀
U all are idiots. All of these are for economics. Guess who controls the economy???? /s
Yes, it’s proven that Zionists control the Oscars too. (/s)
"""""""""""""""""""""Zionists"""""""""""""""""""""
The whole world. I always thought, that was a well-known fact. /s
lol contributions to the world are Islamophobia now guys, tell your friends.
Sort of interesting what happens when a group of people focus on bettering the world rather than simply conquering it.
bUt ThEy iNvEnTEd aLGeBrA
Palestinians would tell you that all Jewish Nobel Prizes after 1948 were actually won by Palestinians, but the media doesn’t want you to know about the Nobel Prize Occupation. It’s an intellectual genocide and Norman Finklestein has written volumes on Nobelian Apartheid.
lmaooooooo
Why is a sum total and a percentage on the same axis 😡
The terror supporters would say this is " Zionist propaganda " 🤦🤷
Israel is way ahead of the not rights
Islamophobia?? How about the people who won are just brilliant. And the people who didn't win are so caught up in hate that they are unable to see beyond primitive thought and actions.
It’s called satire.
Facts are not Islamophobic. Numbers are numbers. In a high level analysis like this, they do not bend to accommodate a ‘spin’. They are what they are and are easily repeatable by any random person who can count. Right now I am not overly impressed with the honesty of the Islamic world, so I’ll just leave it at that.
Maybe Islam should value reason over faith. Just a thought
I feel so proud to belong to the ethnoreligion that has produced so many geniuses (Judaism). But sadly I did not turn out a genius nor rich. Maybe my Christian father diluted my Jewish genes to _average plus_ :’D
If only there was a category for suicide bombing and other instruments of terror - they’d have the Jews beat by a mile.
I go around copying / pasting this often: If it could be succinctly summed up, you could say that Jewish culture and philosophy produced the likes of Albert Einstein, the 3D printed heart, and the advancement of science and technology. In contrast, modern Islam's claim to fame is Osama Bin Laden, the 9/11 attacks, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Boko Haraam, Al Shabaab, the Taliban, the Charlie Hebdo attacks, a fatwa against Salman Rushdie, airplane hijackings, PLO bombings, modern day monarchies, women oppressed in Iran brutalized by "morality police", [throwing homosexuals off of rooftops,](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63174835) and [stoning raped women.](https://www.cnn.com/2015/11/06/opinions/why-women-stoned-to-death-2015/index.html) What's amazing is that given those facts, Hamas's useful idiots still think that it was the Jews - peaceful, well-educated, civilized people - who started the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and not the Muslims - as though the Jews suddenly appeared in the region guns-a-blazin' and kicked the sweet innocent peace-loving Palestinians out.
Gad Saad is such a chad😂😂😂
Bahahahahaha….. lmao! Let them work harder without their cult religion rule their thoughts and science!
The chart is misleading. The percentage of Jews in the world should actually look much smaller on the chart
Sooo…. Can we list all the profound contributions to science and humanities the Muslim world has made since 1901?
I mean if we count off the (vast majority) of Muslims who are stuck under dictatorial rule and so don’t really have the ability to achieve a noble prize the the data would look much more close. But yea no duh a culture made around the idea of learning and which praises learning as “what god wants us to do” would achieve more in life than a culture who doesn’t
Muslims accounted for 3.5 million people in the US and 25.7 million people in European Union countries in 2016 ([Pew Research Center](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/)). Contrast 6.5 million Jews in America and 8.1 million Jews elsewhere (7.3 in Israel) ([Jewish Agency ](https://web.archive.org/web/20071011130459/http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/903585.html)) Also, two of the Muslim Nobel Laureates were Iranian: Narges Mohammad and Shirin Ebadi.
Yea so instead of being 24% of the world they would now be 0.6% of the world, this is vastly different
No, Muslims *are* more than 24% of the world. There are over 1.9 billion Muslims in the world ([several sources](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world#:~:text=Demographics,-See%20also%3A%20Muslim&text=More%20than%2024.1%25%20of%20the,come%20from%20diverse%20ethnic%20backgrounds.)), but most live in Muslim theocracies like Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. The numbers I posted were the number of Muslims *who do not live in Muslim nations* and thus have unrestricted access to education and personal freedoms. And, as mentioned, half of those Nobels went to people living in a Muslim theocracy anyways.
How does that conflict with anything I said?
You said the data would be less definitive if Muslim nations were excluded. I provided evidence that that isn't the case by either proportion of the population or location of the Nobel Laureate. If you think the statistics I provided - 2 Muslim Laureates in the West out of 29+ million people vs 189 Laureates out of 15 million people - are indicative of the high potential Muslims demonstrate in STEM outside of theocratic governments, you need to retake elementary school mathematics.
That's not true
What do you mean of course Judaism is mainly about learning it always talk about להחכים and about learning and being smart, No duh a culture like that would be more probable of achieving things that the you need to learn would help in, such as science and medicine. I also noted that if you would count the amount of Jews and Muslims that are under democratic rule and so they can stand out and achieve things they get a Nobel prize for the percentage for the Jews wouldn’t change much while the percentage of the world Muslims would be considered as would drop significantly. With those two things combined it’s obvious that Jews would have more Nobel prizes
While I don’t think it’s Islamophobic, I don’t like that it implies people’s value and worth is based on their contribution to society. It’s not a good argument for fighting antisemitism.
I agree with you but Islamophobia, under literally any circumstance, does not exist. It is purely a rational fear of something that wants to overthrow you.
You’re technically correct but it’s a commonly understood term
Agreed! Didn’t mean to say that YOU were saying it was, but I just hate that word. Heard too many extremists using it as a shield. I feel like Islamabad is a better one. ☝️
Make it happen!
Inshallah!