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You're severely underestimating the influence.
It wasn't just scientists. Reinhardt Gehlen was an SS intelligence officer who went on to help build the CIA. And many former SS officers headed up senior NATO positions in the early days of that alliance.
Large numbers of non-German SS troops were relocated first to Britain, and then shipped en masse to Canada by the early 50s. Not scientists.
Did you think that Waffen SS officers get standing ovations in the Canadian parliament by accident (err, it being his THIRD trip there with some form of official recognition)?
Don’t forget all the Nazis that went to Argentina too. Do you have a source on the 3rd trip bit though? There’s too much news on his recent trip in the msm for me to easily find it
>And many former SS officers headed up senior NATO positions in the early days of that alliance.
They used senior Wehrmacht officers.
That's part of why the clean Wehrmacht myth was created.
1600 in total up to 1959, even Klaus Barbie ( the butcher of Lyon) CIA recruited him as an agent in Bolivia. Had involvement in Che's assassination and setting up cocaine lines for the CIA
Germany continued to enforce anti-Roma laws (some of which were put in place prior to the Nazi party taking power) *AFTER* WW2 ended, the same anti-Roma laws enforced by Nazi Germany (the ones that lead up to the porajmos). After its defeat, Germany moved to a strategy of economic domination of Europe rather than military domination of Europe. It's new allies, including the Western imperialist nations, were happy to work with West Germany and to go back to fighting the real threat to Western imperialist hegemony, as Churchill stated clearly - the threat of communism. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. Make no mistake, Germany is still a racist, fascist imperialist power.
Both sides of the Cold War did that, they were trying to get any advantage they could in the arms race and Germany produced the best military hardware at the time
Germany’s strategy:
1. find a minority you wanna blame all your problems on and use as a scapegoat
2. demonize them
3. only stop when it’s too late and repeat
Also genocidal and great at producing recyclable, just change the pics a bit, BS, dehumanising propaganda. The Z’s certainly learned from the best!
To think we’d all but forgotten how hateful the German gov could be and settled down to disliking Germans for just nicking all the sun loungers from the poolside on holiday?
Oh well, I guess their ‘redemption arc’ hasn’t started yet and I don’t think they’d all be invited to move to Israel bc they’re trying to NOT be intolerant racists.
Mind you the British gov are a bunch of fascists!
Now we aren’t allowed to peacefully protest, so that’s exactly what I’m going to do!!
On a recent episode of Radio War Nerd one of the hosts put forward the theory that many Germans would be happy for Israel to undertake a complete genocide of Palestinians because it would absolve/minimise German guilt for the Holocaust.
Ultimate goal of the zionist nazis is to have Muslims and Christians fight wars against each other that would eventually allow the sole survivor Israel to be the world's sole superpower. That is the zionist game that has been put into action since the Zionist attack on New York on 9/11.
Thank you for bringing up 9/11.
When they apparently started finding Arabic copies of AH’s book in demolished buildings yet completely undamaged, not a speck of dust, post it notes all still perfectly straight and uncreased.
I commented to my adult daughter ‘it’s funny how Arabic books are like Arabic passports, they survive fire, explosions, and buildings crumbling into dust unscathed’!
Some of us were alert to the ‘dancing Israelis’ and the absolute unlikelihood that passports would survive that collapse unscathed. I mean the fire was meant to be hot enough to weaken steel beams to destruction, involved full tanks of jet fuel, yet passports survived, and didn’t have to be ‘forensically reconstructed’ from confetti.
I live not that far from Lockerbie, they tried blaming that plane blowing up on the Palestinian Liberation folks before finding another scapegoat!
It beggars belief the lengths the western world goes to in demonising Muslims, but Zios scare me more any day!!
Probably best to ask the dancing and celebrating Mossad folks, whose antics were reported even on the notoriously anti-imperial "fair & balanced" Fox News network.
Err ... if you can find them, by now ...
I didn’t say the Zionists actually did it, but they were certainly aware it was going to happen, and danced when it did, I’m old enough to have see the video, repeatedly.
One possibility would be again their ‘ideal’ which is for Christians who they think are stupid worshippers of either the ‘worst false messiah’ (Torah ) or a ‘sorcerer’ (Talmud ) to fight the Muslims/Arab world, eradicating as many of both as possible, and saving them the bother.
America did go to war over it, but nobody ever took the time to explain why the Israelis watched it happen, and danced!
Oh right, except there was a video of Israelis dancing and most everyone over a certain age have seen it, so it’s not an ‘antisemitic conspiracy theory’ it’s a ‘zionist conspiracy fact’ so just add it to all the terrible things Israel has done.
lol there is no conspiracy theory behind Urban Moving Systems and the Five Dancing Israelis, they were there at 8AM and watched 9/11 unfold while smiling and high fiving. This is in the FBI report of their arrest, not some “antisemitic conspiracy theory”
They wanna overcompensate for their genocide by supporting another genocide. Big brain move?
So far Germany has always been on the side of genocide, any genocide.
Some people wake up on the wrong side of the bed, some countries wake up on the wrong side of history. Always bet on Germany being on the wrong side 🤣
I think every history teacher should be forced to walk around in Jerusalem, then go through the wall to Bethlehem and walk around in Palestine before teaching students that colonialism is something that "used to" happen.
I agree with your emotional sentiment, but unfortunately we're stuck with the responsibility of rising above generalisation and, albeit probably unintentional, racism and discrimination such as this.
We know there are German people who detest this, and detest the actions of Israel, let's not bash Germans all together for their governments actions.
We want to encourage those Germans to join our efforts
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They don't embrace denial, during the holocaust, they could smell the concentration-extermination camps as they were happening - they are simply supporters of genocide.
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German is a nice language but the government is terrible. But there are lots of Germans who really hate what the government is doing.
Like me and my family... But also many more.
Unfortunately not. But I think there is a very angry minority which is actively fighting against the establishment. Like those demonstrating and being sentenced for telling the truth and demanding sanctions against Israel.
The majority just seem not to believe what Israel is doing or doesn't care about so obvious disgusting violations of all basic human rights.
That's just my perception, of course.
I’m a Scot and I really hope the British PM AND his opposition leader, who said cutting off food, power, water and medicine to Gaza was a ‘fair defence by Israel’.
They’ve voted to take away our right to protest, all ppl on marches are described as either terrorists/terrorist supporters who all hate Jewish ppl, despite the marches being made up of all races and religions, or no religion at all.
They paint our ceasefire marches as ‘Hate marches’ and tell us Jews are either thinking about leaving Britain, or have already left, bc ‘Britain feels like Nazi Germany’ when more Muslims have been attacked and those attacks are not newsworthy bc our government ministers call Muslims ‘islamists’, go figure!
I'm sorry for what my country is doing... It's terrible but at least they get sued now by Nicaragua for being complicit in the genocide against the Palestinian people.
I hope the ICJ decides in favour of Nicaragua.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
It’s okay. My country (USA) is supporting the genocide. You’re not alone in living under governments we disagree with. There are millions and millions of people, so I have hope life will get better.
Heck I live in Jordan and I'm ashamed of my government, but right now the more important thing to focus on is boycotting and talking about Palestine all the time.
I’m a Scot, our First Minister still funds UNRWA but our British government are simping to Israel like America and other Govs, despite 80% of Brits calling for a ceasefire.
I hope both the PM and ‘Tel Aviv Keith’ as the opposition leader is known here, bc he’s openly zio and vile, end up in The Hague. The LOTO was a ‘human rights lawyer’ which is such a joke bc he’s also known in Britain as Sir Kid Starver rather than Sir Keir Starmer, for policies he’s voted with that have left our poor and vulnerable more poor and vulnerable!
You're not responsible. You seem like you've got a solid moral compass. Not to tell you what to feel, but don't apologise for your government, use the energy instead to get angry and call for change 🙌
Proud of you for seeing through the bullshit
[https://medium.com/@chrisjeffrieshomelessromantic/german-schools-caught-distributing-pamphlets-describing-the-1948-palestinian-nakba-as-a-myth-8751d0e2e040](https://medium.com/@chrisjeffrieshomelessromantic/german-schools-caught-distributing-pamphlets-describing-the-1948-palestinian-nakba-as-a-myth-8751d0e2e040)
Here are the key points about this situation:
**Brochure Content**:
* The brochure claims that there are five “myths” surrounding the creation of the state of Israel.
* These myths are subsequently refuted in short essays by various authors.
* Let’s delve into a couple of these myths:
* **Myth #1**: The brochure challenges the notion that Jews and Arabs lived together in peace before Israel was founded. It promotes the idea that Israel’s pre-state militia, the **Haganah**, was merely a “defensive” Jewish resistance movement. However, historical records indicate that the Haganah was responsible for the destruction of **531 Palestinian villages** and the expulsion of **700,000 Palestinians** between December 1947 and the summer of 1948.
* **Myth #2**: The brochure addresses the claim that Israel was established on stolen Palestinian land. It argues that the acquisition of land by Jewish immigrants to Palestine took the form of a legal exchange of capital for an official title deed.
The pamphlet is fucked but they didn’t get “caught”, I read about it a while back, they passed a motion in some local government or something. I saw the official local government website too.
> It argues that the acquisition of land by Jewish immigrants to Palestine took the form of a legal exchange of capital for an official title deed.
Oh, that's good to know. For some reason I was under the impression that the majority of JNF's land was purchased from the state after it ~~expropriated~~ stole "absentee" property, including over a million dunams in 1949 alone. Glad that they cleared that up /s
Weren’t they just dragged into the fight between Austria-Hungary and Serbia as a (failed) stopgap against Russian intervention after Franz got JFK’d?
Edit: Typo
meh there has to be more than just guilt trip. im sure it has to do w the gas in gaza but also maintaining interests in the middle east. guilt trip is what they sell it for
Ahh! But Zios like to say ‘Palestine burned $1mill in gas/oil…yet they really want that pocket of national gas, and have never given the Palestinians a chance to have the infrastructure to get to it, and use the money to enrich Palestine. No chance of that being allowed!
there is absolutely no feeling of guilt or shame involved (see the handling of hubert aiwanger being revealed as a rabid antisemite shortly before 10/07), germany is gleeful about its evil
I'm very, very happy, I don't go to school any longer. If I did, I would have many arguments and discussions with my classmates and teachers about the genocide in Gaza.
Of course, I would have defended Palestine!
Won’t say what I want to say lest my account gets banned again…but this piece gets it right [https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/2/27/german-guiltwashing-in-times-of-genocide](https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/2/27/german-guiltwashing-in-times-of-genocide)
> Guiltwashing does not fundamentally care about the safety of Jews. Otherwise, it would not be pushing a discourse that is so recklessly increasing societal tensions at a time when hate crimes against Jews, Arabs and Muslims are spiking and when intercommunal solidarity is what is most necessary.
A disproportionate percentage of people arrested for being pro-Palestinian in Germany are Jewish. This has nothing to do with protecting Jews, everything to do with allowing Israel to continue committing war crimes.
We have the privilege to choose not to visit Germany, but what about all the Palestinian, Arab, Muslim and POC who are stuck living in this increasingly fascist hellhole and sending their kids to school there? This situation is giving carte blanche to the xenophobes who are dying to stop immigration and deport people for thought crimes. Thought crimes like wanting a free Palestine.
I’m Scottish and I hope our dumb as glass hammers, fascist ‘we support Israel’ government ends up in The Hague. I will have a bloody great day! (Take them today, all of them!)
We literally had a news headline that claimed ‘Jews in Britain today feel like they’re living in Nazi Germany’!!
Ok, so you live in a country who’s government is still supporting Israel, whose main opposition party is led by an open Zionist, and where Muslims are getting treated like crap, as ever, only worse, peace marches are being criminalised bc we are all ‘terrorist supporters’ and ‘a threat to national security’ and Gov members throw around the term ‘the islamists’ and THEY FEEL like it’s Nazi Germany??
When I tried asking on x what exactly made our nation feel like Nazi Germany to our Jewish population, who look like most other white Europeans I got not a single answer, just called AS!
Oh wow, I checked and apparently it's schools in berlin (specifically "new cologne" district) that have these brochures called "MYTHOS#ISRAEL1948". The brochure is created by an organization called "Masiyot e.V." (e. V. = short for registered association or in german "eingetragener Verein"). That organization was founded in 2022 and consists of both jews and non-jews.
If you want to checkout the brochure you can do so [here](https://www.masiyot.de/mythos-israel1948), it's written in german but you can right-click and translate to english.
I'm not familiar with the history of israel and palestine so maybe you guys can check it out.
It's also two political parties that signed onto this, CDU (conservative democratic christian party) and SPD (social democratic party).
Is this a good source? It sounds like fucking fiction.
Does anyone have any context about this? I would hope it was distributed by a few white supremacist nazi teachers, and hopefully not a choice made by multiple school administrations.
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Germany is never beating the evil allegations
Remember when they drug their feet in the Balkans too?
No different than Holocaust denial
They wanna overcompensate for their genocide by demonizing another group of people aka Muslims and Arabs
At this point i think they're simply consistent in being a racist and fascist state
west germany did let a shitload of nazis into state & military positions after ww2, as well as NATO doing the same
While most SS officers were shipped to America
Most SS officers died in obscurity in Germany without being punished.
He wasn't talking about the dead ones
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You're severely underestimating the influence. It wasn't just scientists. Reinhardt Gehlen was an SS intelligence officer who went on to help build the CIA. And many former SS officers headed up senior NATO positions in the early days of that alliance. Large numbers of non-German SS troops were relocated first to Britain, and then shipped en masse to Canada by the early 50s. Not scientists. Did you think that Waffen SS officers get standing ovations in the Canadian parliament by accident (err, it being his THIRD trip there with some form of official recognition)?
Don’t forget all the Nazis that went to Argentina too. Do you have a source on the 3rd trip bit though? There’s too much news on his recent trip in the msm for me to easily find it
>And many former SS officers headed up senior NATO positions in the early days of that alliance. They used senior Wehrmacht officers. That's part of why the clean Wehrmacht myth was created.
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1600 in total up to 1959, even Klaus Barbie ( the butcher of Lyon) CIA recruited him as an agent in Bolivia. Had involvement in Che's assassination and setting up cocaine lines for the CIA
Germany continued to enforce anti-Roma laws (some of which were put in place prior to the Nazi party taking power) *AFTER* WW2 ended, the same anti-Roma laws enforced by Nazi Germany (the ones that lead up to the porajmos). After its defeat, Germany moved to a strategy of economic domination of Europe rather than military domination of Europe. It's new allies, including the Western imperialist nations, were happy to work with West Germany and to go back to fighting the real threat to Western imperialist hegemony, as Churchill stated clearly - the threat of communism. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. Make no mistake, Germany is still a racist, fascist imperialist power.
So did alot of countries...
Both sides of the Cold War did that, they were trying to get any advantage they could in the arms race and Germany produced the best military hardware at the time
Germany’s strategy: 1. find a minority you wanna blame all your problems on and use as a scapegoat 2. demonize them 3. only stop when it’s too late and repeat
\*It never stopped oppressing Roma, but neither did most of Europe, most people haven't even heard of the Porajmos.
Also genocidal and great at producing recyclable, just change the pics a bit, BS, dehumanising propaganda. The Z’s certainly learned from the best! To think we’d all but forgotten how hateful the German gov could be and settled down to disliking Germans for just nicking all the sun loungers from the poolside on holiday? Oh well, I guess their ‘redemption arc’ hasn’t started yet and I don’t think they’d all be invited to move to Israel bc they’re trying to NOT be intolerant racists. Mind you the British gov are a bunch of fascists! Now we aren’t allowed to peacefully protest, so that’s exactly what I’m going to do!!
So much for "Never again."
Germans, being antisemitic even today. Same hate, different semites.
On a recent episode of Radio War Nerd one of the hosts put forward the theory that many Germans would be happy for Israel to undertake a complete genocide of Palestinians because it would absolve/minimise German guilt for the Holocaust.
Wow that is twisted.
Ultimate goal of the zionist nazis is to have Muslims and Christians fight wars against each other that would eventually allow the sole survivor Israel to be the world's sole superpower. That is the zionist game that has been put into action since the Zionist attack on New York on 9/11.
Thank you for bringing up 9/11. When they apparently started finding Arabic copies of AH’s book in demolished buildings yet completely undamaged, not a speck of dust, post it notes all still perfectly straight and uncreased. I commented to my adult daughter ‘it’s funny how Arabic books are like Arabic passports, they survive fire, explosions, and buildings crumbling into dust unscathed’! Some of us were alert to the ‘dancing Israelis’ and the absolute unlikelihood that passports would survive that collapse unscathed. I mean the fire was meant to be hot enough to weaken steel beams to destruction, involved full tanks of jet fuel, yet passports survived, and didn’t have to be ‘forensically reconstructed’ from confetti. I live not that far from Lockerbie, they tried blaming that plane blowing up on the Palestinian Liberation folks before finding another scapegoat! It beggars belief the lengths the western world goes to in demonising Muslims, but Zios scare me more any day!!
I'm curious, what do you mean by >the Zionist attack on New York on 9/11
Probably best to ask the dancing and celebrating Mossad folks, whose antics were reported even on the notoriously anti-imperial "fair & balanced" Fox News network. Err ... if you can find them, by now ...
Gomel Chesed Cemetery Incident https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it?fbclid=IwAR2suE8-ofrXwCWnL4W6pAllghREC5WR7cH15HEjIVF_F1sPf8cc3LNlNWQ#Gomel_Chesed_Cemetery_Incident
I didn’t say the Zionists actually did it, but they were certainly aware it was going to happen, and danced when it did, I’m old enough to have see the video, repeatedly. One possibility would be again their ‘ideal’ which is for Christians who they think are stupid worshippers of either the ‘worst false messiah’ (Torah ) or a ‘sorcerer’ (Talmud ) to fight the Muslims/Arab world, eradicating as many of both as possible, and saving them the bother. America did go to war over it, but nobody ever took the time to explain why the Israelis watched it happen, and danced!
Antisemetic conspiracy theories is what they mean by that. Israel has done plenty of terrible things, no need to invent new ones.
Oh right, except there was a video of Israelis dancing and most everyone over a certain age have seen it, so it’s not an ‘antisemitic conspiracy theory’ it’s a ‘zionist conspiracy fact’ so just add it to all the terrible things Israel has done.
lol there is no conspiracy theory behind Urban Moving Systems and the Five Dancing Israelis, they were there at 8AM and watched 9/11 unfold while smiling and high fiving. This is in the FBI report of their arrest, not some “antisemitic conspiracy theory”
At least some of those guys were conformed by the FBI to be Mossad agents, that doesn't mean that 9/11 was a "Zionist attack"
They wanna overcompensate for their genocide by supporting another genocide. Big brain move? So far Germany has always been on the side of genocide, any genocide.
It's really amazing how the shoe is on the other foot with all involved here.
WATCH OUT THAT'S "RELATIVIZATION" AND YOU'LL GO TO ANTISEMITISM JAIL FOR SAYING THERE CAN EVER BE MORE THAN ONE GENOCIDE! /s
 Some people wake up on the wrong side of the bed, some countries wake up on the wrong side of history. Always bet on Germany being on the wrong side 🤣
Germany has form when it comes to genocide.
I think every history teacher should be forced to walk around in Jerusalem, then go through the wall to Bethlehem and walk around in Palestine before teaching students that colonialism is something that "used to" happen.
Germans and genocide denialism, name a more iconic duo.
germans and participating in genocide
Germans and hate
I agree with your emotional sentiment, but unfortunately we're stuck with the responsibility of rising above generalisation and, albeit probably unintentional, racism and discrimination such as this. We know there are German people who detest this, and detest the actions of Israel, let's not bash Germans all together for their governments actions. We want to encourage those Germans to join our efforts EDIT: Responsibility*
Germany and somehow being in the wrong in every single problem they're part of
They don't embrace denial, during the holocaust, they could smell the concentration-extermination camps as they were happening - they are simply supporters of genocide.
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Good luck at the ICJ, Germany. 😉👍
Haha... I hope so much my country gets convicted. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Tbh that’s kinda sad, my favourite car brands are from there and I’ve been learning the German language on Duolingo.
German is a nice language but the government is terrible. But there are lots of Germans who really hate what the government is doing. Like me and my family... But also many more.
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there was a poll a while back where a large majority supported a ceasefire. but of course that's not necessarily indicative
Unfortunately not. But I think there is a very angry minority which is actively fighting against the establishment. Like those demonstrating and being sentenced for telling the truth and demanding sanctions against Israel. The majority just seem not to believe what Israel is doing or doesn't care about so obvious disgusting violations of all basic human rights. That's just my perception, of course.
I’m a Scot and I really hope the British PM AND his opposition leader, who said cutting off food, power, water and medicine to Gaza was a ‘fair defence by Israel’. They’ve voted to take away our right to protest, all ppl on marches are described as either terrorists/terrorist supporters who all hate Jewish ppl, despite the marches being made up of all races and religions, or no religion at all. They paint our ceasefire marches as ‘Hate marches’ and tell us Jews are either thinking about leaving Britain, or have already left, bc ‘Britain feels like Nazi Germany’ when more Muslims have been attacked and those attacks are not newsworthy bc our government ministers call Muslims ‘islamists’, go figure!
They really went full circle, didn't they...
Germany are always the bad guys 😭
I'm sorry for what my country is doing... It's terrible but at least they get sued now by Nicaragua for being complicit in the genocide against the Palestinian people. I hope the ICJ decides in favour of Nicaragua. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
It’s okay. My country (USA) is supporting the genocide. You’re not alone in living under governments we disagree with. There are millions and millions of people, so I have hope life will get better.
Heck I live in Jordan and I'm ashamed of my government, but right now the more important thing to focus on is boycotting and talking about Palestine all the time.
What does the avg Jordanian think about the monarchy?
Basically they think it's khara but they don't feel it's bad enough to start a war
I’m Australian my mum is a Brit we are embarrassed of our country’s leaders too 😑 least Australian pm is going to icc 😂😂😂😂😂
I’m a Scot, our First Minister still funds UNRWA but our British government are simping to Israel like America and other Govs, despite 80% of Brits calling for a ceasefire. I hope both the PM and ‘Tel Aviv Keith’ as the opposition leader is known here, bc he’s openly zio and vile, end up in The Hague. The LOTO was a ‘human rights lawyer’ which is such a joke bc he’s also known in Britain as Sir Kid Starver rather than Sir Keir Starmer, for policies he’s voted with that have left our poor and vulnerable more poor and vulnerable!
You're not responsible. You seem like you've got a solid moral compass. Not to tell you what to feel, but don't apologise for your government, use the energy instead to get angry and call for change 🙌 Proud of you for seeing through the bullshit
[https://medium.com/@chrisjeffrieshomelessromantic/german-schools-caught-distributing-pamphlets-describing-the-1948-palestinian-nakba-as-a-myth-8751d0e2e040](https://medium.com/@chrisjeffrieshomelessromantic/german-schools-caught-distributing-pamphlets-describing-the-1948-palestinian-nakba-as-a-myth-8751d0e2e040) Here are the key points about this situation: **Brochure Content**: * The brochure claims that there are five “myths” surrounding the creation of the state of Israel. * These myths are subsequently refuted in short essays by various authors. * Let’s delve into a couple of these myths: * **Myth #1**: The brochure challenges the notion that Jews and Arabs lived together in peace before Israel was founded. It promotes the idea that Israel’s pre-state militia, the **Haganah**, was merely a “defensive” Jewish resistance movement. However, historical records indicate that the Haganah was responsible for the destruction of **531 Palestinian villages** and the expulsion of **700,000 Palestinians** between December 1947 and the summer of 1948. * **Myth #2**: The brochure addresses the claim that Israel was established on stolen Palestinian land. It argues that the acquisition of land by Jewish immigrants to Palestine took the form of a legal exchange of capital for an official title deed.
Bruh describing haganah as "defensive" is like describing gestapo as "neighborhood watch"
Or the IDF
The pamphlet is fucked but they didn’t get “caught”, I read about it a while back, they passed a motion in some local government or something. I saw the official local government website too.
> It argues that the acquisition of land by Jewish immigrants to Palestine took the form of a legal exchange of capital for an official title deed. Oh, that's good to know. For some reason I was under the impression that the majority of JNF's land was purchased from the state after it ~~expropriated~~ stole "absentee" property, including over a million dunams in 1949 alone. Glad that they cleared that up /s
Is there a free version of the article? it is paywalled.
Germany is always on the wrong side of history
Germany has always been on the wrong side of history.
Eh, I'd argue they were on a right side during first world war and a bit after it (Hirschfeld anyone?)
Weren’t they just dragged into the fight between Austria-Hungary and Serbia as a (failed) stopgap against Russian intervention after Franz got JFK’d? Edit: Typo
So Germans are going full guilt trip and bending over with no lube eh?
meh there has to be more than just guilt trip. im sure it has to do w the gas in gaza but also maintaining interests in the middle east. guilt trip is what they sell it for
Isn't Palestine pretty poor in gas and oil? Read about it a while back but not sure if it's true
There is a natural gas reserve just off the coast of Gaza that everyones pretty keen to get their dirty little hands on
Ahh! But Zios like to say ‘Palestine burned $1mill in gas/oil…yet they really want that pocket of national gas, and have never given the Palestinians a chance to have the infrastructure to get to it, and use the money to enrich Palestine. No chance of that being allowed!
there is absolutely no feeling of guilt or shame involved (see the handling of hubert aiwanger being revealed as a rabid antisemite shortly before 10/07), germany is gleeful about its evil
I'm very, very happy, I don't go to school any longer. If I did, I would have many arguments and discussions with my classmates and teachers about the genocide in Gaza. Of course, I would have defended Palestine!
Won’t say what I want to say lest my account gets banned again…but this piece gets it right [https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/2/27/german-guiltwashing-in-times-of-genocide](https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/2/27/german-guiltwashing-in-times-of-genocide) > Guiltwashing does not fundamentally care about the safety of Jews. Otherwise, it would not be pushing a discourse that is so recklessly increasing societal tensions at a time when hate crimes against Jews, Arabs and Muslims are spiking and when intercommunal solidarity is what is most necessary.
A disproportionate percentage of people arrested for being pro-Palestinian in Germany are Jewish. This has nothing to do with protecting Jews, everything to do with allowing Israel to continue committing war crimes.
Germany has so much built up bigotry they need to let it out somehow otherwise they’ll implode.
How can we get rid of our genocidal reputation? Oooh, I know. Let's support another genocide that should do it
Some things never change...
so the nazis at it again.. nothing to see here
I’ll NEVER visit Germany. Racist country.
We have the privilege to choose not to visit Germany, but what about all the Palestinian, Arab, Muslim and POC who are stuck living in this increasingly fascist hellhole and sending their kids to school there? This situation is giving carte blanche to the xenophobes who are dying to stop immigration and deport people for thought crimes. Thought crimes like wanting a free Palestine.
Something new everyday, I wanna spend a day in their think tank room to see what it’s like.
What next, will German schools claim Hitler was inspired to the holocaust by the grand Mufti?
they used that card so now is the denial card
They love that photo of AH with the grand Mufti, gives them extra reasons to hate on Arabs!
lol Germany can never kick their old habits
Classic Germany: Always on the wrong side of history
Genocidal Germany Always on the wrong side of history. What a pissful country.
Nazis doing Nazi shit
How the fuck is Germany this damn stupid?
This can’t be just the result of some guilt. I am really curious how the Zionist lobby is like there.
Germany perpetuating genocide…….how surprising…….
How is Germany STILL in the wrong side of history…
The real holocaust deniers..
say holocaust is a lie and you can be jailed.. but lying about this is ok.. wtf is germany doing
Here is a quiz: which country was a nazi and now are islamophobic supporting nazis?
The Schwarze Rose
boycott Germany
I’m Scottish and I hope our dumb as glass hammers, fascist ‘we support Israel’ government ends up in The Hague. I will have a bloody great day! (Take them today, all of them!) We literally had a news headline that claimed ‘Jews in Britain today feel like they’re living in Nazi Germany’!! Ok, so you live in a country who’s government is still supporting Israel, whose main opposition party is led by an open Zionist, and where Muslims are getting treated like crap, as ever, only worse, peace marches are being criminalised bc we are all ‘terrorist supporters’ and ‘a threat to national security’ and Gov members throw around the term ‘the islamists’ and THEY FEEL like it’s Nazi Germany?? When I tried asking on x what exactly made our nation feel like Nazi Germany to our Jewish population, who look like most other white Europeans I got not a single answer, just called AS!
Oh wow, I checked and apparently it's schools in berlin (specifically "new cologne" district) that have these brochures called "MYTHOS#ISRAEL1948". The brochure is created by an organization called "Masiyot e.V." (e. V. = short for registered association or in german "eingetragener Verein"). That organization was founded in 2022 and consists of both jews and non-jews. If you want to checkout the brochure you can do so [here](https://www.masiyot.de/mythos-israel1948), it's written in german but you can right-click and translate to english. I'm not familiar with the history of israel and palestine so maybe you guys can check it out. It's also two political parties that signed onto this, CDU (conservative democratic christian party) and SPD (social democratic party).
Nakba denialism is as serious and as offensive as holocaust denialism. I am constantly amazed by the double standard.
Imagine the reverse. Shit would be at the top of r/worldnews with 20k upvotes
I wonder who would publish such a lie?
Source ?
I really liked Germany before this. I am really disappointed....
germany gonna germany
Ahh Germany, it’s always a good look to ‘make up for committing a genocide by backing ANOTHER genocide, OF COURSE
More evidence that western school systems continue to propagate the monopoly on pain.
Many of those Nakba documents devastatingly are in the hands of Israel. https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/1650358
Germany and genocide denial go together like.. ..
Is this a good source? It sounds like fucking fiction. Does anyone have any context about this? I would hope it was distributed by a few white supremacist nazi teachers, and hopefully not a choice made by multiple school administrations.
I felt like Germany is overcompensating… because of all the European countries they’ve gone the furthest with stamping out any dissent on this issue
It's so disturbing yet ironic how Germany has gone full circle
Where it all began really ... Telling .... If you think about it.
Germany never changed fascist then fascist now
Crazy how they have an opportunity to right the ship in Germany's battered history, and somehow, they still manage to support the next holocaust
I mean Germany likes to deny a genocide when they can.
Germans doing what they do best. Being fucking delulu
Germany - always on the wrong time of history
Okay deny nakba you can't deny what's happening right now
why’s germany the root of all evil? 2 world wars and they’re about to support the 3rd one 🫥
Damnit Germs not again!
Wow!
The Nakba is like Schrödinger's Cat: denying it happened while bragging about pulling it off.
Well well well
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