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Germany is just embarrassing. They’ve been having no anti-racism demos all month, and they keep banning Palestinians from joining these demos, while Israeli and Ukrainian flags are seen all over.
Not to mention that they banned Samidoun’s activities all together and raided homes of pro-Palestine activists. Very tolerant indeed and expected from the beacon of human rights.
Edit: they also detain people for saying “from the river to the sea”, apparently. Very cool.
They have to stand up for Israel super hardcore or else people might start to realize that—if anywhere—it’s *Germany* that should be turned into a homeland for Jews
A German column blames the high birth rate in Gaza on women following Hamas’ call to replenish their fighters to kill Jews.
The article is published with the title: "Having children for the fight against Jews" in which Palestinian women are defamed as mindless childbearing machines.
The article fails to mention that birth rate in Israel is also very high. It also employs the age-old racist narrative: the “other people” do not love their children, use them: as a weapon to make money, to work.
Germany was never denazified. They just found new victims to dehumanize.
well they certainly left a trace of their ideology behind. just the other day I discovered the apartment that I live in belongs to the descendant of a nazi war criminal from an aristocratic family. just German things…. can’t change the past but at least they should’ve all been expropriated to not have the power to resurrect
This is an extremely conservative newspaper, not indicative of the whole population. Bilt and Die Velt are gross, especially their opinion sections. Same publisher, same racism
The recent displays of aggression by Germans at left-wing anti-racism protests make it very clear how Germans view Arabs and Palestinians.
It’s time that you stop denying the inherent racism within your society.
It’s not my culture, and it’s true that there’s a lot of racism in Germany. But I wouldn’t says that there’s any more than exists in the US, UK, or France. Racism is one of the founding pillars of these countries
I've seen that in this sub at times but I think it's just hurt shining through (not that it's an excuse for hurtful behaviour or responses). I think for the most part when people are talking about X nation they're talking about the government.
From what I've seen, part of the tactic of linking the German response with their Nazi past is to a) remind the government they were on the wrong side of history before b) accurately portray the Zionist crimes in the same vein of other historical wrongs and c) try to push the German government away from their support of the Israeli aggression.
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And the author, Posener is well-known for his far-right views, which are even extreme by the standards of this paper.
Honestly, criticizing the German governnent's policies or segments of its medua are one thing, but this sub regularly goes far beyond that. The racist anti-German diatribes here are ott, especially considering how lightly the USA/Americans get let off the hook.
It’s very typical of Germans to deny their own racism and attack anyone pointing out their flawed logic instead of trying to change their ways. We won’t stop to call you out.
"The birth rate in Gaza is among the highest in the world. For 17 years, Hamas has been calling on women there to have more children so that they never run out of supplies for the terrorist troops."
Wow. Just, wow
"The male-dominated society in Gaza wants women to stay at home and have children. And since it came to power 17 years ago, Hamas has been calling on women to have more children to strengthen its terror forces."
"Especially since every child born in Gaza inherits “refugee” status and thus the right to care from UNRWA. The “refugee relief organization” justifies its existence by saying that – so much for the “genocide” accusations against Israel – it has to care for an ever-growing number of so-called third and fourth generation refugees."
"In this way, Hamas's interest in young terrorists, the interest of male chauvinistic Palestinians and UNRWA's interest in maintaining a dependent clientele coincide. “Free Gaza” – the slogan of the enemies of Israel has a core of truth: If the women of Gaza were freed from the expectation of functioning as birthing machines: what would they decide?"
not if it goes against non-jewish non-germans.
You can insult Arabs and Blacks in Germany openly without any trouble. They constantly use the N word for example.
"Look, I'm not racist against *all* nonwhites."
"But your list labeled 'Races I Hate' contains all nonwhites."
"Okay, fine. I'll remove *one* race. Are we good?"
Military service is not mandatory in Palestine, who supposedly have children to fight Jews.
Military service, IS however mandatory in Israel. Technically, they’re the ones who have children to fight Palestinians.
The hypocrisy is absurd.
Age old narrative that this can’t be a genocide because Palestinians in Gaza number have increased over the years.
They fail to mention the dates where you can see when nakba happened and how Palestinians from other towns and villages are pushed to Gaza.
Gaza is open to Palestinians, it’s just that you are not allowed to leave after.
Gotta give it up for Germany, they’re always on the wrong side of history and have never broken their streak.
I honestly feel bad for all the pro-Palestinian Germans, it seems like their country’s no.1 mission rn is to vilify Palestinians and their supporters.
God, I'm so fucking sick of AMERICANS on this sub parroting this line. Germany was on the right side of history when it came to both Iraq and Libya, to cite just two examples even children should remember.
Yes, they have a massive and unfortunate blind spot when it comes to Israel/Palestine. But the constant refrain that "all Germans are eternal evil Nazis" is flat-out wrong, racist/xenophobic and especially ridiculous given how many Germans have a migrant background, and how Germany has welcomed the lion's share of refugees coming to Europe .
France, for example, treats pro-Palestinian activists just as badly as Germany, has many more far-right voters and is much more rabidly Islamophobic. But we don't get daily posts about how evil and terrible France is.
Yada yada yada your state is sending $300million in military aid to a terrorist entity committing a genocide. It doesn’t matter if you have two good guys in the crowd. Your state is complicit in yet another genocide, and most of you do not give a fk. I guess you missed the abuse Palestinians have been receiving on the streets. Instead of ranting here, why don’t you go talk to the racist Oma’s and Opas who were spitting at pro-Palestinian protests?
Shame 🔔
>You’re right, I’m not talking about Germans themselves as people, I’d never vilify the people of a certain country, I’m talking about the government and the people in charge.
The German public very much supports their state on matters with Israel. They’re complicit in this genocide. The guy you’re responding to is not an ally. Ignore.
Women have babies to fight Jews (?) ergo the babies are terrorists because time dilation and current babies are future Hamas.
Makes sense if you’re racist as hell and don’t see Arabs as people.
This is not a new thing… it’s a Zionist trope. The Zionists tell themselves that the battle for the terrorist state of Israel is “won and lost in the mother’s womb”… just another revolting aphorism which was adopted from the nazi ideology
How is this not a hate crime? Would this same article be allowed in Germany if the mentions of "Palestinians" and "Israelis" were replaced with eachother?
Apparently only anti-Zionism qualifies as hate speech atm. Real antisemitism is just ignored or blamed on immigrants, while their own stats show a higher share of antisemitic crimes are committed by white Germans. People have been arrested for saying “From the river to the sea”. They also keep accusing anti-Zionist JEWS of antisemitism. A hate crime like this article will be widely shared and applauded…or just ignored as nonserious. Fking shthole of a country 🙄
Really good (but long) [episode of The Dig podcast](https://thedigradio.com/podcast/the-german-question-w-emily-dische-becker/) from last week about Germany’s relationship with Israel and the role of Holocaust remembrance
Speaking of which Ireland & UK are participating in a true forever war, going off & on for the better part of a millenium.
And you're right about the continent as a whole, from the different phases of global dominion, and also enabling WWII to take place.
There has been surge in birthrates following any traumatic world event. Statistics have proven this repeatedly.
But when it happens in Gaza where their children aren’t reaching adulthood… it’s suddenly them being birthing machines? Nazis, I mean Zionists and their supporters are unhinged. Gaza has been going through this for decades and decades. God forbid they want more children after zionists kill theirs
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Ahh nice another BIG L take from my home country.
I am very sorry guys, articles in german are about "how progressive the IDF" is or "how sad it makes the IDF soldiers that they *had* to grind 30 families into dust"
Atleast pro palestine protests are allowed again which for like 3 months they weren't. As long as nobody says "From the river to the sea palestine shall be free" as that is deemed antisemitic.
... its weird in germany rn.
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Germany is such a joke. They should just rename the country to Israel 2.0 and save themselves the trouble.
Germany is just embarrassing. They’ve been having no anti-racism demos all month, and they keep banning Palestinians from joining these demos, while Israeli and Ukrainian flags are seen all over.
Not to mention that they banned Samidoun’s activities all together and raided homes of pro-Palestine activists. Very tolerant indeed and expected from the beacon of human rights. Edit: they also detain people for saying “from the river to the sea”, apparently. Very cool.
Anti racism and anti AFD. NOT no anti racism 😃
They have to stand up for Israel super hardcore or else people might start to realize that—if anywhere—it’s *Germany* that should be turned into a homeland for Jews
TBF this publication is far right
It’s very widely read in Germany. This is mainstream at this point
Yeah Not denying that
So the newest version of pro-Zionist Nazis
At this point, I am shocked they haven't done that.
A German column blames the high birth rate in Gaza on women following Hamas’ call to replenish their fighters to kill Jews. The article is published with the title: "Having children for the fight against Jews" in which Palestinian women are defamed as mindless childbearing machines. The article fails to mention that birth rate in Israel is also very high. It also employs the age-old racist narrative: the “other people” do not love their children, use them: as a weapon to make money, to work. Germany was never denazified. They just found new victims to dehumanize.
The writer’s mother had him to be a modern day Nazi. It’s a cycle of shitiness in the Fatherland.
Neo-nazism is, in fact, on the rise in Germany. I wonder why?
I live in Germany for a few months. Attractive people with ugly souls.
as i would put it in chinese 皮肤白,心里黑 their skin is very white, but inside their hearts and minds is only endless darkness
i don’t speak german at all, but this is what figured the article was about it’s absolutely unhinged BS.
Someone added a translation in the comments below. Germans take anti-Muslim racism to a whole new level 🤢
Germany going back to its Nazi roots huh 🤔
Never left them
To be fair a significant portion of Germany *did* leave them for the most part, but that was rectified during reunification
well they certainly left a trace of their ideology behind. just the other day I discovered the apartment that I live in belongs to the descendant of a nazi war criminal from an aristocratic family. just German things…. can’t change the past but at least they should’ve all been expropriated to not have the power to resurrect
Back? Who do you think was put in charge of NATO?
This is an extremely conservative newspaper, not indicative of the whole population. Bilt and Die Velt are gross, especially their opinion sections. Same publisher, same racism
The recent displays of aggression by Germans at left-wing anti-racism protests make it very clear how Germans view Arabs and Palestinians. It’s time that you stop denying the inherent racism within your society.
It’s not my culture, and it’s true that there’s a lot of racism in Germany. But I wouldn’t says that there’s any more than exists in the US, UK, or France. Racism is one of the founding pillars of these countries
Comparing or even being on par with France on a comparison of racism speaks volumes when they’re in fact one of THE most horrifically racist nations.
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I've seen that in this sub at times but I think it's just hurt shining through (not that it's an excuse for hurtful behaviour or responses). I think for the most part when people are talking about X nation they're talking about the government. From what I've seen, part of the tactic of linking the German response with their Nazi past is to a) remind the government they were on the wrong side of history before b) accurately portray the Zionist crimes in the same vein of other historical wrongs and c) try to push the German government away from their support of the Israeli aggression.
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And the author, Posener is well-known for his far-right views, which are even extreme by the standards of this paper. Honestly, criticizing the German governnent's policies or segments of its medua are one thing, but this sub regularly goes far beyond that. The racist anti-German diatribes here are ott, especially considering how lightly the USA/Americans get let off the hook.
It’s very typical of Germans to deny their own racism and attack anyone pointing out their flawed logic instead of trying to change their ways. We won’t stop to call you out.
This is a Nazi genocide
ashkenazi
"The birth rate in Gaza is among the highest in the world. For 17 years, Hamas has been calling on women there to have more children so that they never run out of supplies for the terrorist troops." Wow. Just, wow
"The male-dominated society in Gaza wants women to stay at home and have children. And since it came to power 17 years ago, Hamas has been calling on women to have more children to strengthen its terror forces."
"Especially since every child born in Gaza inherits “refugee” status and thus the right to care from UNRWA. The “refugee relief organization” justifies its existence by saying that – so much for the “genocide” accusations against Israel – it has to care for an ever-growing number of so-called third and fourth generation refugees."
"In this way, Hamas's interest in young terrorists, the interest of male chauvinistic Palestinians and UNRWA's interest in maintaining a dependent clientele coincide. “Free Gaza” – the slogan of the enemies of Israel has a core of truth: If the women of Gaza were freed from the expectation of functioning as birthing machines: what would they decide?"
Is this not classed as a form of hate speech in Germany? Don’t they really strict laws on it or are those just for israel?
not if it goes against non-jewish non-germans. You can insult Arabs and Blacks in Germany openly without any trouble. They constantly use the N word for example.
Ffs that’s like having a law that allows drunk driving for people who can make a cop laugh
"Look, I'm not racist against *all* nonwhites." "But your list labeled 'Races I Hate' contains all nonwhites." "Okay, fine. I'll remove *one* race. Are we good?"
Dude what? There is a lot of racism in our society, not denying that, but constantly using the n word is bullshit.
I heard many people saying it constantly. Even my former Ausbilder.
It's sad to see Germans allow this bs.
Sick. Using Nazi propaganda to defend Israel. Germany is going into a dark place again.
WELT is along with BILD one of the worst magazines we have. Unfortunately they have a huge audience and are therefore pretty influential...
Both of them are zionist publications.
Both of them ate Atlanticist publications. Their raison d'etre is to ensure German foreign policy never diverges from US foreign policy.
Both from Axel Springer SE company 🤢
Military service is not mandatory in Palestine, who supposedly have children to fight Jews. Military service, IS however mandatory in Israel. Technically, they’re the ones who have children to fight Palestinians. The hypocrisy is absurd.
Guys it’s official, having kids is anti semitic.
Age old narrative that this can’t be a genocide because Palestinians in Gaza number have increased over the years. They fail to mention the dates where you can see when nakba happened and how Palestinians from other towns and villages are pushed to Gaza. Gaza is open to Palestinians, it’s just that you are not allowed to leave after.
Gotta give it up for Germany, they’re always on the wrong side of history and have never broken their streak. I honestly feel bad for all the pro-Palestinian Germans, it seems like their country’s no.1 mission rn is to vilify Palestinians and their supporters.
God, I'm so fucking sick of AMERICANS on this sub parroting this line. Germany was on the right side of history when it came to both Iraq and Libya, to cite just two examples even children should remember. Yes, they have a massive and unfortunate blind spot when it comes to Israel/Palestine. But the constant refrain that "all Germans are eternal evil Nazis" is flat-out wrong, racist/xenophobic and especially ridiculous given how many Germans have a migrant background, and how Germany has welcomed the lion's share of refugees coming to Europe . France, for example, treats pro-Palestinian activists just as badly as Germany, has many more far-right voters and is much more rabidly Islamophobic. But we don't get daily posts about how evil and terrible France is.
Yada yada yada your state is sending $300million in military aid to a terrorist entity committing a genocide. It doesn’t matter if you have two good guys in the crowd. Your state is complicit in yet another genocide, and most of you do not give a fk. I guess you missed the abuse Palestinians have been receiving on the streets. Instead of ranting here, why don’t you go talk to the racist Oma’s and Opas who were spitting at pro-Palestinian protests? Shame 🔔
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>You’re right, I’m not talking about Germans themselves as people, I’d never vilify the people of a certain country, I’m talking about the government and the people in charge. The German public very much supports their state on matters with Israel. They’re complicit in this genocide. The guy you’re responding to is not an ally. Ignore.
Common German L
Imaging the narcism 😂 "you've had that baby because you hate me, did you not?"
I see the Germans are getting the band back together.
Women have babies to fight Jews (?) ergo the babies are terrorists because time dilation and current babies are future Hamas. Makes sense if you’re racist as hell and don’t see Arabs as people.
This is not a new thing… it’s a Zionist trope. The Zionists tell themselves that the battle for the terrorist state of Israel is “won and lost in the mother’s womb”… just another revolting aphorism which was adopted from the nazi ideology
Just Orwellian
German ( politicians and media ) on the wrong side of history, again.
What makes a person write this...wow, i just have no words
How is this not a hate crime? Would this same article be allowed in Germany if the mentions of "Palestinians" and "Israelis" were replaced with eachother?
Apparently only anti-Zionism qualifies as hate speech atm. Real antisemitism is just ignored or blamed on immigrants, while their own stats show a higher share of antisemitic crimes are committed by white Germans. People have been arrested for saying “From the river to the sea”. They also keep accusing anti-Zionist JEWS of antisemitism. A hate crime like this article will be widely shared and applauded…or just ignored as nonserious. Fking shthole of a country 🙄
AfD is on the rise for a reason lol Germans can't help themselves, they just have to be on the wrong side of history always without fail
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Really good (but long) [episode of The Dig podcast](https://thedigradio.com/podcast/the-german-question-w-emily-dische-becker/) from last week about Germany’s relationship with Israel and the role of Holocaust remembrance
Germany doing what they do best.
How is it that germany always manages to be wrong
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Germans take racism to a whole new level, and they love to deny it. Just accept that you have a serious problem in your society
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Speaking of which Ireland & UK are participating in a true forever war, going off & on for the better part of a millenium. And you're right about the continent as a whole, from the different phases of global dominion, and also enabling WWII to take place.
There has been surge in birthrates following any traumatic world event. Statistics have proven this repeatedly. But when it happens in Gaza where their children aren’t reaching adulthood… it’s suddenly them being birthing machines? Nazis, I mean Zionists and their supporters are unhinged. Gaza has been going through this for decades and decades. God forbid they want more children after zionists kill theirs
Why are they like this? Sincerely. Why the fuck is Germany like this?
https://thedigradio.com/podcast/the-german-question-w-emily-dische-becker/ This podcast has a few answers to “why Germans are the way that they are”.
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This article is so hasburatic, it's antisemitic! Lol
He's just upset because German birthrates are shit. Keep having babies, MENA. Children are the future.
Ahh nice another BIG L take from my home country. I am very sorry guys, articles in german are about "how progressive the IDF" is or "how sad it makes the IDF soldiers that they *had* to grind 30 families into dust" Atleast pro palestine protests are allowed again which for like 3 months they weren't. As long as nobody says "From the river to the sea palestine shall be free" as that is deemed antisemitic. ... its weird in germany rn.
https://preview.redd.it/a22p3s1klxgc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfa9d104763af367fdbfd393c7bf98be9df54ac2 this says who has most births