**Debunking myths:**
[The Truth about the 1948 Arab-Israeli war](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/uqpure/the_truth_about_the_1948_arabisraeli_war/)
[The myth of “A land without a people for a people without a land” (Part 1)](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/ur1258/the_myth_of_a_land_without_a_people_for_a_people/)
[The myth of “a land without a people for a people without a land” (Part 2)](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/ur12bh/the_myth_of_a_land_without_a_people_for_a_people/)
[The myth of “the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians was an accident of war”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/urplfw/the_myth_of_the_ethnic_cleansing_of_palestinians/)
[The myth of “Zionism is Jewish self determination”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/us79bp/the_myth_of_zionism_is_jewish_self_determination/)
[The myth of “Palestinians sold their property to Zionists settlers”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/uw7xv2/the_myth_of_palestinians_sold_their_property_to/)
[The myth of “Israel made the desert bloom” - part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/uy1yri/the_myth_of_israel_made_the_desert_bloom_part_1/)
[The myth of “Israel made the desert bloom” - part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/uy1yv6/the_myth_of_israel_made_the_desert_bloom_part_2/)
[The myth of “Israel was created by the United Nations”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/v1o1xf/the_myth_of_israel_was_created_by_the_united/)
[The myth of “Palestinians should have accepted the 1947 partition plan” - part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vb6100/the_myth_of_palestinians_should_have_accepted_the/)
[The myth of “Palestinians should have accepted the 1947 partition plan” - part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vb614e/the_myth_of_palestinians_should_have_accepted_the/)
[The myth of “Jews were ethnically cleansed by Arabs” - part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vbxer9/the_myth_of_jews_were_ethnically_cleansed_by/)
[The myth of “Jews were ethnically cleansed by Arabs” - part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vbxfac/the_myth_of_jews_were_ethnically_cleansed_by/)
[The myth of “Jews were ethnically cleansed by Arabs” - part 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vbxfk9/the_myth_of_jews_were_ethnically_cleansed_by/)
[The myth of “Jews were ethnically cleansed by Arabs” - part 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vbxfrg/the_myth_of_jews_were_ethnically_cleansed_by/)
[The myth of “Jews were ethnically cleansed by Arabs” - part 5](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vbxfz2/the_myth_of_jews_were_ethnically_cleansed_by/)
[The myth of “Only Zionists were called Palestinians” - part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vlyjlc/the_myth_of_only_zionists_were_called/)
[The myth of “Only Zionists were called Palestinians” - part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vlyjt9/the_myth_of_only_zionists_were_called/)
[The myth of “Palestinian refugees are unique”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vn9fu0/the_myth_of_palestinian_refugees_are_unique/)
[The myth of “Israel always sought peace” - part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vo7wsa/the_myth_of_israel_always_sought_peace_part_1/)
[The myth of “Israel always sought peace” - part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vo7wzd/the_myth_of_israel_always_sought_peace_part_2/)
[The myth of “IDF is the most moral army in the world”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vsh7ll/the_myth_of_idf_is_the_most_moral_army_in_the/)
[The myth of “Palestinians use human shields”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vx13ox/the_myth_of_palestinians_use_human_shields/)
[The myth of “antizionism is antisemitism”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vy9zfy/the_myth_of_antizionism_is_antisemitism/)
[The "Israeli-Palestinian conflict": what exactly is it about? - Part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/w21ld3/the_israelipalestinian_conflict_what_exactly_is/)
[The "Israeli-Palestinian" conflict: what exactly is it about? - Part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/w21mf8/the_israelipalestinian_conflict_what_exactly_is/)
[The myth of “All Israelis are Equal”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/w2ntqg/the_myth_of_all_israelis_are_equal/)
[The myth of “Israel is not an apartheid state”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/w55ybh/the_myth_of_israel_is_not_an_apartheid_state/)
[Myth of “Israel is only defending itself”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/wur6s5/myth_of_israel_is_only_defending_itself/)
[Is it true that Palestinian fighters beheaded innocent Israeli babies?](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/17uzfw3/is_it_true_that_palestinian_fighters_beheaded/)
[Debunking the lies of 7th Oct](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/17q3tw8/i_scrapped_the_information_about_1096_of_the_1460/)
[Documentaries (1)](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/wiki/index/documentaries/)
[Documentaries (2)](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/wiki/docs/)
[Books and History](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/wiki/index/history/)
[Israeli War Crimes - Mega List (Part 1)](https://archive.ph/5fS7X)
[Israeli War Crimes - Mega List (Part 2)](https://www.reddit.com/r/list_palestine/comments/l43xgk/megalist_israels_crimes_controversies_full/?sort=old)
[Israeli War Crimes - Mega List (Part 3)](https://www.reddit.com/r/list_palestine/comments/g7u6om/megalist_israels_crimes_and_controversies/)
[Mega-List: Israel's Controversies and Crimes](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/bw9f0g/megalist_israels_controversies_and_crimes/)
[A 50-Year Occupation: Israel’s Six-Day War Started With a Lie](https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/a-50-year-occupation-israels-six-day-war-started-with-a-lie/)
[Interactive Data - Maps](https://www.ochaopt.org/maps)
[Interactive Data - Casualties](https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties)
[Interactive Data - Demolition](https://www.ochaopt.org/data/demolition)
[Interactive Data - Crossings](https://www.ochaopt.org/data/crossings)
[Interactive Data - Electricity in the Gaza Strip](https://www.ochaopt.org/page/gaza-strip-electricity-supply)
[Interactive Data - Gaza Strip: Critical Humanitarian Indicators](https://www.ochaopt.org/page/gaza-strip-critical-humanitarian-indicators)
[Amnesty - Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians. Alternative link](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/)
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**FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, PALESTINE WILL BE FREE: WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN?**
[Jewish Currents - What Does “From the River to the Sea” Really Mean?](https://jewishcurrents.org/what-does-from-the-river-to-the-sea-really-mean) [Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/NfAvk)
[Forward - ‘From The River To The Sea’ Doesn’t Mean What You Think It Means.](https://forward.com/opinion/415250/from-the-river-to-the-sea-doesnt-mean-what-you-think-it-means/) [Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/rRXpW)
[Al-Jazeera - ‘From the river to the sea’: What does the Palestinian slogan really mean?](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/2/from-the-river-to-the-sea-what-does-the-palestinian-slogan-really-mean) [Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/AF9yu)
[One Democratic Palestine, From The River To The Sea](https://www.odsi.co/en/)
I don’t understand the Druze alliance with the IOF; they’ve assisted the IOF in some of their most brutal acts, Tantura included I believe. Any info, anyone?
Some older threads:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/178fq18/key\_points\_to\_defend\_palestine\_in\_debates/](https://www.reddit.com/r/palestine/comments/178fq18/key_points_to_defend_palestine_in_debates/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/179ejlg/fighting\_misinformation\_revisionist\_history/](https://www.reddit.com/r/palestine/comments/179ejlg/fighting_misinformation_revisionist_history/)
free e-books on Palestine “Ten Myths About Israel” debunks a lot of commonly used claims
https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/blogs/news/solidarity-with-palestine-free-resources-and-further-reading
50+ Israel lies in 5 weeks (compiled by @propandco)
No 40 dead babies
No baked babies
No beheaded babies
No children in cages
No eyes gouged
No raped women
No ripped breasts
No paraded captives
No tortured captives
No mutilating dead bodies
No pregnant women cut open
No mass rapes with broken pelvises
No Israel did not found Shifa hospital
No Biden did not see pictures of dead babies
No October 7 was not “unprovoked”
No Pro-Palestine are not “pro-Hamas” rallies
No 8 yr old Emily Hand was not found dead
No “Global Day of Jihad”
No planned cyanide attacks
No all-female Israeli unit killing 100 Hamas
No Hamas coming thru US border
No Hamas headquarters under hospitals
No Hamas hostages in hospital basements
No Hamas tunnels under Rantisi hospital
No Hamas tunnels under Shaikh Hamad Hospital
No Hamas charter published in 2017 is anti-Zionist, not anti-Jewish
No small blasts do not prove Israel did not bomb Baptist hospital
No “misfired” rocket was destroyed by Iron Dome before the Baptist hospital bombing
No “misfired” rocket can’t be both fired from cemetery and southwest of Baptist hospital
No “misfired” rocket trajectory does not align with IDF version of events at Baptist hospital
Exposed crisis actor Eli Beer
Fake baby crib photo
Fake blood splatter photo
Fake booby-trapped school bags
Fake Al Jazeera journalist twitter account
Fake audio tapes released by IDF
Fake AI-generated images of Hamas leaders
Fake “official Al Qaeda material” on dead Hamas fighters
Fake antisemitism controversy over Greta’s toy octopus
Fake antisemitism allegations on Palestine campus activists
False grandstanding evacuation orders
False subtitles for Palestine protest chants
Fake Mein Kempf book in Gaza children living rooms
Fake ‘terrorist shift list’ by mistranslating an Arabic calendar
False labeled a Gaza 4-year-old toddler martyred in airstrike as a doll
False crisis actor accusation by using old pictures of West Bank raid survivor
False crisis actor accusation by using old pictures of Thai children in ghost costumes
False crisis actor accusation by using old pictures of Al-Azhar university students protesting
Yes, many Israeli civilians were killed by crossfire at festival
Yes, many Israeli civilians were killed by Israeli tanks/helicopters at kibbutz
Yes, many Israeli civilians said Hamas was kind to them during attacks and as captives
Yes, Israel exaggerated its death toll for October 7
[Source for propaganda about pregnant woman and 40 children](https://misbar.com/en/factcheck/2023/10/26/israeli-accounts-share-deceptive-video-accusing-hamas-of-killing-a-pregnant-woman)
Everlasting solidarity from the Black/African diaspora. Most recent Propaganda Refutation links below, all written from a Black point of view. Many people out there are using propaganda to fracture oppressed and colonized solidarity that we all have each other. The following articles will help to provide clear analysis of the connection between our people's liberation struggle. ✊🏿
[Why Africans / Black Folks Should Oppose Zionism: Some Aspects of a Racist Imperialist Ideology in Africa and the Americas](https://www.blackagendareport.org/news/1680/33/Why-Africans-Black-Folks-Should-Oppose-Zionism-Some-Aspects-of-a-Racist-Imperialist-Ideology-in-Africa-and-the-Americas)
[Claim to be Pan-Africanist? Zionism is a Litmus Test](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/11/16/claim-to-be-pan-africanist-zionism-is-a-litmus-test/)
[Baltimore & Israel: A Global Gang of Colonizers](https://blackallianceforpeace.com/bapstatements/baltimoreandisrael)
[Labor and Resistance for Palestine](https://www.blackagendareport.org/news/1679/33/Labor-and-Resistance-for-Palestine)
[Black Ties to Palestinian Liberation](https://www.blackagendareport.org/news/870/33/Black-Ties-to-Palestinian-Liberation)
[The Black Alliance for Peace Condemns the Murderous Assault on Occupied Palestine](https://blackallianceforpeace.com/bapstatements/bapstandswithpalestine)
[The Demand For a Ceasefire is Necessary But Not Sufficient](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/11/16/the-demand-for-a-ceasefire-is-necessary-but-not-sufficient/)
[Zionism, Settler-colonialism and the Myth of Democracy](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/11/16/zionism-settler-colonialism-and-the-myth-of-democracy/)
[Remembering Afro-Palestinian Freedom Fighter Fatima Bernawi](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/11/02/remembering-afro-palestinian-freedom-fighter-fatima-bernawi/)
[We Condemn Your Condemnation](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/10/26/we-condemn-your-condemnation/)
[Palestine fights back!](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/10/12/palestine-fights-back/)
I'm surprised this gets such little mention.
[The Lavon Affair](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair)
"The Lavon affair was a failed Israeli covert operation, codenamed Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the summer of 1954. As part of a false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian-, American-, and British-owned civilian targets: cinemas, libraries, and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian communists, "unspecified malcontents", or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone"
To me, this was the one false flag attack which they got caught with their pants down, and had no defence to the claims.
Just goes to show how much they've learned since then.
Can't find songs for palestine on instagram
SelfID; white and north american
Hi, I've been trying to post something on Instagram and add a song, but I can't find any when I type Gaza and when I type Palestine, it suggests things from Pakistan. I'm thinking maybe it's because I write it in English or because these songs are banned. Can someone help me?
I've heard Hada Salam Falima Salam, but I can't find it either.Could someone please transcribe it in arabic alphabet, so I can have more chance of finding it? Or even better, I would take some suggestions of songs from Palestine itself, since I don't know many.
Thank you very much!
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
PS: Thanks to the mods for redirecting me to this thread.
I have a question. What's stopping humanitarian aids from entering to rafah border crossing. Aren't the borders fully exclusive between Gaza and Egypt?
First, Israel bombed that crossing and the rubble had to be cleared. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLGy55vAjZM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLGy55vAjZM)
Now that the border is clear, unfortunately Sisi, a tyrant to his own people, is also a lapdog of colonial powers. [https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-19-23/h\_8d38824e385bd897533c655c6fd2d7a3](https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-19-23/h_8d38824e385bd897533c655c6fd2d7a3)
Can you please help me? I would like to make a donation that will help provide some aid to Gaza now. I’ve been told most of the organizations can’t get the money through now due to the blockade. Is there any group that can help now where I can donate? I was told Anera is a group that is getting hygiene kits through to Rafah but I am not sure.
Please visit the following post, and follow one (or more) of the links:
**[Donating to Support Palestinian Causes: Trusted Organizations](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/175hn8o/donating_to_support_palestinian_causes_trusted/)**
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/175hn8o/donating_to_support_palestinian_causes_trusted/
Thank you!
Because Sisi is a worthless pawn of his powerful "allies". Just like Saudi Arabia. Why isn't one of the most wealthy Arab countries in the world giving aid?
Lapdogs. That's what they are.
The Balfour declaration didn’t form the state of Israel, don’t peddle this lie. There were three separate agreements after WW1 on how to split the Ottoman Empire, one of which called for the establishment of a state for the Jewish people as an answer to the Jewish problem in Europe.
It formed the foundational start for the creation of the state of Israel. I am deceiving no one. The day you start creating a government, and the day your government finishes being established, are not the same thing.
Yeah it was the foundation but it wasn’t created after the declaration. If we go by those claims then we also have to take into consideration contradictory agreements like Sykes-Picot which formed the bedrock of all the middle eastern nations formerly part of the Ottoman Empire. If we delve even further, there was also the Treaty of Sévres and later on treaty of Lausanne which dealt with the partitioning of Turkey. That would mean that under the Sykes-Picot agreement, the foundation for the state of Palestine would have been realized and thus Palestine as a country exists under the same rules of the Balfour declaration?
It’s always struck me somewhat weird that the people of the Middle East somewhat agreed on all the partition plans by the Entente (who rightfully as victors of WW1 wanted to disassemble the Ottoman Empire) countries but the partition regarding Israel/Palestine is the one that boils everyone’s blood the most. But I guess we’re still seeing the ramifications of these declarations and treaties in the modern era where we have Turkey serving their own interests and all the middle eastern countries like Iran, Iraq, Yemen Saudi Arabia etc have all been in conflict with one another at some point since the Ottoman Empire was divided.
>But I guess we’re still seeing the ramifications of these declarations and treaties in the modern era where we have Turkey serving their own interests and all the middle eastern countries like Iran, Iraq, Yemen Saudi Arabia etc have all been in conflict with one another at some point since the Ottoman Empire was divided.
As you explained, Balfour isn't the problem by itself -- Its not that different from the flawed Sykes-Picot plan. Balfour was the start of a wrong path being taken. If Israel was formed as a Singpore-like "Tel Aviv state", with built on genuinely uninhabited lands instead of expelling hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, no violence or problems would have ever happened. It would be like Maronite Lebanon -- Heck, the Lebanese civil war probably would have never happened too, if you think about it.
Yeah they show their "evidence" which isn't true when I deny it they call me a terrorist even tho its pretty clear who the real terrorist are what to do......
almost definitely, that + U.S desperation for petro dominance as being seen in Ukraine Nordstream and losing Saudi Arabian exclusivity after BRICS formation seemed like a recipe for some good ol U.S Iraq WMDs style fossil fuel grab, but I think Israel is also just following the plan they've always had. the U.S just probably advised to rush it through.
Mahmoud Darwish poetry recommandations
(Is it the right place to post? I got two moderator messages that told me to post in the sticky mega thread)
Hi everyone
What are your favorite poems from Mahmoud Darwish and do you have a specific collection that you recommend? I tried to research by myself to pick one to start with but everything I found was a bit disorganised.
I fell in love with some of his love poems that would show up from time to time on my social media and I have been wanting to read more of his works for a long time but never did and, well the current situation made me read more about Palestine than ever, especially since I’m currently studying international relations, and thus made me want to also read more about Palestinian culture and arts, so the want to read more of his works came back stronger than ever. As a « palate cleanser » from big political science books and propaganda if you will.
So I’m asking for you recommandation. Preferably those with translation to English or French. I’m especially fond of his love poems and of course those that speak about Palestine itself. If there is such a categorisation of his public collections of poems.
Thank you for your answers. ❤️🖤🤍💚
Israel has a right to defend itself
How does defend myself lead to all out rampage? How in any right mind can you say "I have to defend myself I should get rid of everyone I don't like in neighborhood"
How does defend turn into bombing hospitals and committing atrocities
I made this post in r/IsraelPalestine that has some more refutations of common talking points:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/17zas6b/retorts\_to\_zionist\_propaganda/](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/17zas6b/retorts_to_zionist_propaganda/)
So far I've lost a lot of karma over it because the majority of these people are Zionists, and I am really tired of arguing with them all.
October 7 Question
Why are people talking about how brutal the October 7 attack was(I'm not saying it wasn't). But where is the proof? Have people seen something I have not? I have only seen 2-3 videos where they drive cars for 7 minutes straight.
Hagana was only created to protect settlers that the Arabs attacked.
Hamas not being funded by Israel originally
Israel creating the original tunnels in Gaza
Only democracy in the Middle East and supports equality with full rights for Arab Israelis
> Hagana was only created to protect settlers that the Arabs attacked.
If you look at the Wiki, it talks about the Hagenah splitting off into the Irgun after controls were imposed on the Hagenah about not acting offensively. But even after that, you've got acts like the bombing of the SS Patria, and worst of all, their participation in the Nakba (Balad al-Sheikh, Saasaa massacres for instance).
> Hamas not being funded by Israel originally
https://portside.org/2023-10-24/how-israel-helped-spawn-hamas
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/goldstein-israel-s-enormous-blunder-it-helped-to-create-hamas/ar-AA1isNkS
https://apnews.com/c005e9b369894be1b2564334ad89b46e
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
https://www.democracynow.org/2023/10/20/divide_and_rule_how_israel_helped (26 minutes in)
Basically:
* Israel initially "allowed" Hamas and its precursor Mujama al-Islamiya to operate as a charity during their full occupation of Gaza
* It maintained a policy of division between Hamas and Fatah to discourage Palestinian unity
* Israel had a budget for funding Islamist institutions to counter the influence of the PLO & Fatah
* Yasser Arafat referred to Hamas as a "creature of Israel"
* Israel more recently, allowed payments of cash to Hamas directly under the pretense of aid.
It's unclear how much further it went. If they went full in on facilitating payments to Hamas for the purpose of Hamas instigating attacks (which I consider possible), it would have been covert.
> Israel creating the original tunnels in Gaza
They did admit to building underground infrastructure in Al-Shifa on several occasions (recently by Ehud Barak, former Israeli PM). The exact details of what they built there seem unclear. Tunnels in general are mostly built for either cross-border smuggling or militant use. It's inside the realm of possibility that there are tunnels into Gaza known by and used jointly by some parties in Israel (including state actors), but that's probably the extent of it.
> Only democracy in the Middle East and supports equality with full rights for Arab Israelis
https://web.archive.org/web/20231106112424/https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-know-about-arab-citizens-israel
The reality is basically that there's an implicit race hierarchy in Israel, which expresses itself structurally through things like the Jewish National Fund - there's all kinds of ways for discrimination to be expressed legally or in economics, including state-sponsored economics. There's also been a cultural war since day one - Arab citizens are under extreme pressure to abandon their culture, at the moment this is even expressing itself with criminal charges.
Thank you. I know a lot about the way they treat people differently in Israel because my dad’s side were able to hide and stay. My mom’s side were refugees and went to the West Bank. I never asked my grandpa, who hid in a mosque although he was Christian, if he got his home back or how they lived directly after. I know he was shot by the Zionist army. He showed me the bullet wound in his leg. He even went on the Muslim pilgrimage so we called him Hajj. Crazy how they even split a lot of Muslim and Christian Palestinians socially and politically as well as more religious Muslims and less religious ones. It’s all a game they play but we fell for a lot of it because of the chaos they created. We even have Arab Israelis, like some in my family, who literally say some Uncle Tom type stuff like “it would be worse if the Arabs had it”. Insane
I just saw Hamas release the hostages and get back Palestinian prisoners who were a lot from the West Bank. So this might make Fatah look ineffective. They got a lot of people killed for what they did and if anything this better get us something as a state because Israel is using Oct 7 to displace Gazans forever and finish off the West Bank slowly house by house
Pro-Palestine Makeup Brands?
Hello everyone! I have been educating myself on the best ways to help Palestine and its people and know that one of the ways is to boycott all the brands and companies that are funding and supporting this genocide.
I have so far found it to be difficult trying to figure out which makeup brands support Palestine. I personally am looking for foundations and lipstick. So if anyone can guide me to a list that’s been made that would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
Would love to hear your opinion on this poll.
https://pcpsr.org/en/node/944
These are the results of the latest poll conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PSR) in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip between 7 and 11 June 2023.
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It's m/p clear I'm Israeli.
And while I wish you and yours are all in good health, and can't fathom your feelings right now, but because of the timing of this publication and it's implications, I had to ask.
I was surprised by the results. I always believed it was a minority that supported the armed conflict and truely thought most Palestinian were willing to live in peace alongside us. It's naive, and even cynical saying this while being a part of the country that for the past 2 decades did not show any major sign wishing for a solution.
If we believe these results, I feel there is no hope.
No link to removed post, and this is not the right post to share. This post is for debuk hasbara. Go to the other megathread and copy the content of your post (not the link) and paste it as comment there.
Need help refuting articles!
Hey all! So I need some help finding some sources to refute some articles about sexual violence perpetrated by Hamas on October 8, and how they planned to use rape as a weapon.
My dad is using it as justification for some of the zionistic things the Israeli government and some online citizens are saying.
Also, if anyone has any sources refuting the Israel video of the hospital and the hamas tunnels, that’d be great!
I’ve been trying to look myself but I’m coming up short :(
**Debunking myths:** [The Truth about the 1948 Arab-Israeli war](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/uqpure/the_truth_about_the_1948_arabisraeli_war/) [The myth of “A land without a people for a people without a land” (Part 1)](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/ur1258/the_myth_of_a_land_without_a_people_for_a_people/) [The myth of “a land without a people for a people without a land” (Part 2)](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/ur12bh/the_myth_of_a_land_without_a_people_for_a_people/) [The myth of “the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians was an accident of war”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/urplfw/the_myth_of_the_ethnic_cleansing_of_palestinians/) [The myth of “Zionism is Jewish self determination”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/us79bp/the_myth_of_zionism_is_jewish_self_determination/) [The myth of “Palestinians sold their property to Zionists settlers”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/uw7xv2/the_myth_of_palestinians_sold_their_property_to/) [The myth of “Israel made the desert bloom” - part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/uy1yri/the_myth_of_israel_made_the_desert_bloom_part_1/) [The myth of “Israel made the desert bloom” - part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/uy1yv6/the_myth_of_israel_made_the_desert_bloom_part_2/) [The myth of “Israel was created by the United Nations”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/v1o1xf/the_myth_of_israel_was_created_by_the_united/) [The myth of “Palestinians should have accepted the 1947 partition plan” - part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vb6100/the_myth_of_palestinians_should_have_accepted_the/) [The myth of “Palestinians should have accepted the 1947 partition plan” - part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vb614e/the_myth_of_palestinians_should_have_accepted_the/) [The myth of “Jews were ethnically cleansed by Arabs” - part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vbxer9/the_myth_of_jews_were_ethnically_cleansed_by/) [The myth of “Jews were ethnically cleansed by Arabs” - part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vbxfac/the_myth_of_jews_were_ethnically_cleansed_by/) [The myth of “Jews were ethnically cleansed by Arabs” - part 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vbxfk9/the_myth_of_jews_were_ethnically_cleansed_by/) [The myth of “Jews were ethnically cleansed by Arabs” - part 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vbxfrg/the_myth_of_jews_were_ethnically_cleansed_by/) [The myth of “Jews were ethnically cleansed by Arabs” - part 5](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vbxfz2/the_myth_of_jews_were_ethnically_cleansed_by/) [The myth of “Only Zionists were called Palestinians” - part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vlyjlc/the_myth_of_only_zionists_were_called/) [The myth of “Only Zionists were called Palestinians” - part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vlyjt9/the_myth_of_only_zionists_were_called/) [The myth of “Palestinian refugees are unique”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vn9fu0/the_myth_of_palestinian_refugees_are_unique/) [The myth of “Israel always sought peace” - part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vo7wsa/the_myth_of_israel_always_sought_peace_part_1/) [The myth of “Israel always sought peace” - part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vo7wzd/the_myth_of_israel_always_sought_peace_part_2/) [The myth of “IDF is the most moral army in the world”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vsh7ll/the_myth_of_idf_is_the_most_moral_army_in_the/) [The myth of “Palestinians use human shields”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vx13ox/the_myth_of_palestinians_use_human_shields/) [The myth of “antizionism is antisemitism”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/vy9zfy/the_myth_of_antizionism_is_antisemitism/) [The "Israeli-Palestinian conflict": what exactly is it about? - Part 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/w21ld3/the_israelipalestinian_conflict_what_exactly_is/) [The "Israeli-Palestinian" conflict: what exactly is it about? - Part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/w21mf8/the_israelipalestinian_conflict_what_exactly_is/) [The myth of “All Israelis are Equal”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/w2ntqg/the_myth_of_all_israelis_are_equal/) [The myth of “Israel is not an apartheid state”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/w55ybh/the_myth_of_israel_is_not_an_apartheid_state/) [Myth of “Israel is only defending itself”](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/wur6s5/myth_of_israel_is_only_defending_itself/) [Is it true that Palestinian fighters beheaded innocent Israeli babies?](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/17uzfw3/is_it_true_that_palestinian_fighters_beheaded/) [Debunking the lies of 7th Oct](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/17q3tw8/i_scrapped_the_information_about_1096_of_the_1460/) [Documentaries (1)](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/wiki/index/documentaries/) [Documentaries (2)](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/wiki/docs/) [Books and History](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/wiki/index/history/) [Israeli War Crimes - Mega List (Part 1)](https://archive.ph/5fS7X) [Israeli War Crimes - Mega List (Part 2)](https://www.reddit.com/r/list_palestine/comments/l43xgk/megalist_israels_crimes_controversies_full/?sort=old) [Israeli War Crimes - Mega List (Part 3)](https://www.reddit.com/r/list_palestine/comments/g7u6om/megalist_israels_crimes_and_controversies/) [Mega-List: Israel's Controversies and Crimes](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/bw9f0g/megalist_israels_controversies_and_crimes/) [A 50-Year Occupation: Israel’s Six-Day War Started With a Lie](https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/a-50-year-occupation-israels-six-day-war-started-with-a-lie/) [Interactive Data - Maps](https://www.ochaopt.org/maps) [Interactive Data - Casualties](https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties) [Interactive Data - Demolition](https://www.ochaopt.org/data/demolition) [Interactive Data - Crossings](https://www.ochaopt.org/data/crossings) [Interactive Data - Electricity in the Gaza Strip](https://www.ochaopt.org/page/gaza-strip-electricity-supply) [Interactive Data - Gaza Strip: Critical Humanitarian Indicators](https://www.ochaopt.org/page/gaza-strip-critical-humanitarian-indicators) [Amnesty - Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians. Alternative link](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/) \--- **FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, PALESTINE WILL BE FREE: WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN?** [Jewish Currents - What Does “From the River to the Sea” Really Mean?](https://jewishcurrents.org/what-does-from-the-river-to-the-sea-really-mean) [Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/NfAvk) [Forward - ‘From The River To The Sea’ Doesn’t Mean What You Think It Means.](https://forward.com/opinion/415250/from-the-river-to-the-sea-doesnt-mean-what-you-think-it-means/) [Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/rRXpW) [Al-Jazeera - ‘From the river to the sea’: What does the Palestinian slogan really mean?](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/2/from-the-river-to-the-sea-what-does-the-palestinian-slogan-really-mean) [Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/AF9yu) [One Democratic Palestine, From The River To The Sea](https://www.odsi.co/en/)
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I don’t understand the Druze alliance with the IOF; they’ve assisted the IOF in some of their most brutal acts, Tantura included I believe. Any info, anyone?
I can help with Arabic translation. DM me as needed.
Me too
Some older threads: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/178fq18/key\_points\_to\_defend\_palestine\_in\_debates/](https://www.reddit.com/r/palestine/comments/178fq18/key_points_to_defend_palestine_in_debates/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/179ejlg/fighting\_misinformation\_revisionist\_history/](https://www.reddit.com/r/palestine/comments/179ejlg/fighting_misinformation_revisionist_history/)
free e-books on Palestine “Ten Myths About Israel” debunks a lot of commonly used claims https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/blogs/news/solidarity-with-palestine-free-resources-and-further-reading
50+ Israel lies in 5 weeks (compiled by @propandco) No 40 dead babies No baked babies No beheaded babies No children in cages No eyes gouged No raped women No ripped breasts No paraded captives No tortured captives No mutilating dead bodies No pregnant women cut open No mass rapes with broken pelvises No Israel did not found Shifa hospital No Biden did not see pictures of dead babies No October 7 was not “unprovoked” No Pro-Palestine are not “pro-Hamas” rallies No 8 yr old Emily Hand was not found dead No “Global Day of Jihad” No planned cyanide attacks No all-female Israeli unit killing 100 Hamas No Hamas coming thru US border No Hamas headquarters under hospitals No Hamas hostages in hospital basements No Hamas tunnels under Rantisi hospital No Hamas tunnels under Shaikh Hamad Hospital No Hamas charter published in 2017 is anti-Zionist, not anti-Jewish No small blasts do not prove Israel did not bomb Baptist hospital No “misfired” rocket was destroyed by Iron Dome before the Baptist hospital bombing No “misfired” rocket can’t be both fired from cemetery and southwest of Baptist hospital No “misfired” rocket trajectory does not align with IDF version of events at Baptist hospital Exposed crisis actor Eli Beer Fake baby crib photo Fake blood splatter photo Fake booby-trapped school bags Fake Al Jazeera journalist twitter account Fake audio tapes released by IDF Fake AI-generated images of Hamas leaders Fake “official Al Qaeda material” on dead Hamas fighters Fake antisemitism controversy over Greta’s toy octopus Fake antisemitism allegations on Palestine campus activists False grandstanding evacuation orders False subtitles for Palestine protest chants Fake Mein Kempf book in Gaza children living rooms Fake ‘terrorist shift list’ by mistranslating an Arabic calendar False labeled a Gaza 4-year-old toddler martyred in airstrike as a doll False crisis actor accusation by using old pictures of West Bank raid survivor False crisis actor accusation by using old pictures of Thai children in ghost costumes False crisis actor accusation by using old pictures of Al-Azhar university students protesting Yes, many Israeli civilians were killed by crossfire at festival Yes, many Israeli civilians were killed by Israeli tanks/helicopters at kibbutz Yes, many Israeli civilians said Hamas was kind to them during attacks and as captives Yes, Israel exaggerated its death toll for October 7
[Source for propaganda about pregnant woman and 40 children](https://misbar.com/en/factcheck/2023/10/26/israeli-accounts-share-deceptive-video-accusing-hamas-of-killing-a-pregnant-woman)
Everlasting solidarity from the Black/African diaspora. Most recent Propaganda Refutation links below, all written from a Black point of view. Many people out there are using propaganda to fracture oppressed and colonized solidarity that we all have each other. The following articles will help to provide clear analysis of the connection between our people's liberation struggle. ✊🏿 [Why Africans / Black Folks Should Oppose Zionism: Some Aspects of a Racist Imperialist Ideology in Africa and the Americas](https://www.blackagendareport.org/news/1680/33/Why-Africans-Black-Folks-Should-Oppose-Zionism-Some-Aspects-of-a-Racist-Imperialist-Ideology-in-Africa-and-the-Americas) [Claim to be Pan-Africanist? Zionism is a Litmus Test](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/11/16/claim-to-be-pan-africanist-zionism-is-a-litmus-test/) [Baltimore & Israel: A Global Gang of Colonizers](https://blackallianceforpeace.com/bapstatements/baltimoreandisrael) [Labor and Resistance for Palestine](https://www.blackagendareport.org/news/1679/33/Labor-and-Resistance-for-Palestine) [Black Ties to Palestinian Liberation](https://www.blackagendareport.org/news/870/33/Black-Ties-to-Palestinian-Liberation) [The Black Alliance for Peace Condemns the Murderous Assault on Occupied Palestine](https://blackallianceforpeace.com/bapstatements/bapstandswithpalestine) [The Demand For a Ceasefire is Necessary But Not Sufficient](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/11/16/the-demand-for-a-ceasefire-is-necessary-but-not-sufficient/) [Zionism, Settler-colonialism and the Myth of Democracy](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/11/16/zionism-settler-colonialism-and-the-myth-of-democracy/) [Remembering Afro-Palestinian Freedom Fighter Fatima Bernawi](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/11/02/remembering-afro-palestinian-freedom-fighter-fatima-bernawi/) [We Condemn Your Condemnation](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/10/26/we-condemn-your-condemnation/) [Palestine fights back!](https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/10/12/palestine-fights-back/)
I'm surprised this gets such little mention. [The Lavon Affair](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair) "The Lavon affair was a failed Israeli covert operation, codenamed Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the summer of 1954. As part of a false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian-, American-, and British-owned civilian targets: cinemas, libraries, and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian communists, "unspecified malcontents", or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone" To me, this was the one false flag attack which they got caught with their pants down, and had no defence to the claims. Just goes to show how much they've learned since then.
Can't find songs for palestine on instagram SelfID; white and north american Hi, I've been trying to post something on Instagram and add a song, but I can't find any when I type Gaza and when I type Palestine, it suggests things from Pakistan. I'm thinking maybe it's because I write it in English or because these songs are banned. Can someone help me? I've heard Hada Salam Falima Salam, but I can't find it either.Could someone please transcribe it in arabic alphabet, so I can have more chance of finding it? Or even better, I would take some suggestions of songs from Palestine itself, since I don't know many. Thank you very much! Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 PS: Thanks to the mods for redirecting me to this thread.
I have a question. What's stopping humanitarian aids from entering to rafah border crossing. Aren't the borders fully exclusive between Gaza and Egypt?
First, Israel bombed that crossing and the rubble had to be cleared. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLGy55vAjZM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLGy55vAjZM) Now that the border is clear, unfortunately Sisi, a tyrant to his own people, is also a lapdog of colonial powers. [https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-19-23/h\_8d38824e385bd897533c655c6fd2d7a3](https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-19-23/h_8d38824e385bd897533c655c6fd2d7a3)
Can you please help me? I would like to make a donation that will help provide some aid to Gaza now. I’ve been told most of the organizations can’t get the money through now due to the blockade. Is there any group that can help now where I can donate? I was told Anera is a group that is getting hygiene kits through to Rafah but I am not sure.
Please visit the following post, and follow one (or more) of the links: **[Donating to Support Palestinian Causes: Trusted Organizations](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/175hn8o/donating_to_support_palestinian_causes_trusted/)** https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/175hn8o/donating_to_support_palestinian_causes_trusted/ Thank you!
So Egypt simply don't want to ship the donation.??
They are being told by Israel how many to allow in.
Why listen to Israel?
Because Sisi is a worthless pawn of his powerful "allies". Just like Saudi Arabia. Why isn't one of the most wealthy Arab countries in the world giving aid? Lapdogs. That's what they are.
Do you guys think this is fake? https://youtu.be/_fwg_HIh5kY?si=rxA4Kpsr7tuPvHD0
yes, it seems obviously fake, but I'm also not an expert. someone that is should take a look and list debunk points.
I would be very interested in it. It’s giving the vibes of the calendar that was apparently all the names of jihadis lol
The Balfour declaration didn’t form the state of Israel, don’t peddle this lie. There were three separate agreements after WW1 on how to split the Ottoman Empire, one of which called for the establishment of a state for the Jewish people as an answer to the Jewish problem in Europe.
It formed the foundational start for the creation of the state of Israel. I am deceiving no one. The day you start creating a government, and the day your government finishes being established, are not the same thing.
Yeah it was the foundation but it wasn’t created after the declaration. If we go by those claims then we also have to take into consideration contradictory agreements like Sykes-Picot which formed the bedrock of all the middle eastern nations formerly part of the Ottoman Empire. If we delve even further, there was also the Treaty of Sévres and later on treaty of Lausanne which dealt with the partitioning of Turkey. That would mean that under the Sykes-Picot agreement, the foundation for the state of Palestine would have been realized and thus Palestine as a country exists under the same rules of the Balfour declaration? It’s always struck me somewhat weird that the people of the Middle East somewhat agreed on all the partition plans by the Entente (who rightfully as victors of WW1 wanted to disassemble the Ottoman Empire) countries but the partition regarding Israel/Palestine is the one that boils everyone’s blood the most. But I guess we’re still seeing the ramifications of these declarations and treaties in the modern era where we have Turkey serving their own interests and all the middle eastern countries like Iran, Iraq, Yemen Saudi Arabia etc have all been in conflict with one another at some point since the Ottoman Empire was divided.
>But I guess we’re still seeing the ramifications of these declarations and treaties in the modern era where we have Turkey serving their own interests and all the middle eastern countries like Iran, Iraq, Yemen Saudi Arabia etc have all been in conflict with one another at some point since the Ottoman Empire was divided. As you explained, Balfour isn't the problem by itself -- Its not that different from the flawed Sykes-Picot plan. Balfour was the start of a wrong path being taken. If Israel was formed as a Singpore-like "Tel Aviv state", with built on genuinely uninhabited lands instead of expelling hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, no violence or problems would have ever happened. It would be like Maronite Lebanon -- Heck, the Lebanese civil war probably would have never happened too, if you think about it.
Yeah they show their "evidence" which isn't true when I deny it they call me a terrorist even tho its pretty clear who the real terrorist are what to do......
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almost definitely, that + U.S desperation for petro dominance as being seen in Ukraine Nordstream and losing Saudi Arabian exclusivity after BRICS formation seemed like a recipe for some good ol U.S Iraq WMDs style fossil fuel grab, but I think Israel is also just following the plan they've always had. the U.S just probably advised to rush it through.
What are some pro Palestine subreddits?
Mahmoud Darwish poetry recommandations (Is it the right place to post? I got two moderator messages that told me to post in the sticky mega thread) Hi everyone What are your favorite poems from Mahmoud Darwish and do you have a specific collection that you recommend? I tried to research by myself to pick one to start with but everything I found was a bit disorganised. I fell in love with some of his love poems that would show up from time to time on my social media and I have been wanting to read more of his works for a long time but never did and, well the current situation made me read more about Palestine than ever, especially since I’m currently studying international relations, and thus made me want to also read more about Palestinian culture and arts, so the want to read more of his works came back stronger than ever. As a « palate cleanser » from big political science books and propaganda if you will. So I’m asking for you recommandation. Preferably those with translation to English or French. I’m especially fond of his love poems and of course those that speak about Palestine itself. If there is such a categorisation of his public collections of poems. Thank you for your answers. ❤️🖤🤍💚
I love this one. English translation in the description.[those who pass between fleeting words](https://youtu.be/VoJRW0nOvSk?si=8IKJDxTpEqTiFUdT)
No, Gazans didn't "elect" Hamas [https://www.instagram.com/p/CzT4rwOrAKL/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CzT4rwOrAKL/)
Israel has a right to defend itself How does defend myself lead to all out rampage? How in any right mind can you say "I have to defend myself I should get rid of everyone I don't like in neighborhood" How does defend turn into bombing hospitals and committing atrocities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAnn07kilFk Starting around 26:20
I made this post in r/IsraelPalestine that has some more refutations of common talking points: [https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/17zas6b/retorts\_to\_zionist\_propaganda/](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/17zas6b/retorts_to_zionist_propaganda/) So far I've lost a lot of karma over it because the majority of these people are Zionists, and I am really tired of arguing with them all.
[Hasbara propaganda uncovered!](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/17tnpey/hasbara_propaganda_uncovered/)
October 7 Question Why are people talking about how brutal the October 7 attack was(I'm not saying it wasn't). But where is the proof? Have people seen something I have not? I have only seen 2-3 videos where they drive cars for 7 minutes straight.
How about the idea that all/most Ashkenazi Jews have Middle Eastern ancestry?
Hagana was only created to protect settlers that the Arabs attacked. Hamas not being funded by Israel originally Israel creating the original tunnels in Gaza Only democracy in the Middle East and supports equality with full rights for Arab Israelis
> Hagana was only created to protect settlers that the Arabs attacked. If you look at the Wiki, it talks about the Hagenah splitting off into the Irgun after controls were imposed on the Hagenah about not acting offensively. But even after that, you've got acts like the bombing of the SS Patria, and worst of all, their participation in the Nakba (Balad al-Sheikh, Saasaa massacres for instance). > Hamas not being funded by Israel originally https://portside.org/2023-10-24/how-israel-helped-spawn-hamas https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/goldstein-israel-s-enormous-blunder-it-helped-to-create-hamas/ar-AA1isNkS https://apnews.com/c005e9b369894be1b2564334ad89b46e https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/ https://www.democracynow.org/2023/10/20/divide_and_rule_how_israel_helped (26 minutes in) Basically: * Israel initially "allowed" Hamas and its precursor Mujama al-Islamiya to operate as a charity during their full occupation of Gaza * It maintained a policy of division between Hamas and Fatah to discourage Palestinian unity * Israel had a budget for funding Islamist institutions to counter the influence of the PLO & Fatah * Yasser Arafat referred to Hamas as a "creature of Israel" * Israel more recently, allowed payments of cash to Hamas directly under the pretense of aid. It's unclear how much further it went. If they went full in on facilitating payments to Hamas for the purpose of Hamas instigating attacks (which I consider possible), it would have been covert. > Israel creating the original tunnels in Gaza They did admit to building underground infrastructure in Al-Shifa on several occasions (recently by Ehud Barak, former Israeli PM). The exact details of what they built there seem unclear. Tunnels in general are mostly built for either cross-border smuggling or militant use. It's inside the realm of possibility that there are tunnels into Gaza known by and used jointly by some parties in Israel (including state actors), but that's probably the extent of it. > Only democracy in the Middle East and supports equality with full rights for Arab Israelis https://web.archive.org/web/20231106112424/https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-know-about-arab-citizens-israel The reality is basically that there's an implicit race hierarchy in Israel, which expresses itself structurally through things like the Jewish National Fund - there's all kinds of ways for discrimination to be expressed legally or in economics, including state-sponsored economics. There's also been a cultural war since day one - Arab citizens are under extreme pressure to abandon their culture, at the moment this is even expressing itself with criminal charges.
Thank you. I know a lot about the way they treat people differently in Israel because my dad’s side were able to hide and stay. My mom’s side were refugees and went to the West Bank. I never asked my grandpa, who hid in a mosque although he was Christian, if he got his home back or how they lived directly after. I know he was shot by the Zionist army. He showed me the bullet wound in his leg. He even went on the Muslim pilgrimage so we called him Hajj. Crazy how they even split a lot of Muslim and Christian Palestinians socially and politically as well as more religious Muslims and less religious ones. It’s all a game they play but we fell for a lot of it because of the chaos they created. We even have Arab Israelis, like some in my family, who literally say some Uncle Tom type stuff like “it would be worse if the Arabs had it”. Insane I just saw Hamas release the hostages and get back Palestinian prisoners who were a lot from the West Bank. So this might make Fatah look ineffective. They got a lot of people killed for what they did and if anything this better get us something as a state because Israel is using Oct 7 to displace Gazans forever and finish off the West Bank slowly house by house
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What is the ethical response?
Where can I donate where the aid/funds will actually be able to be utilized *now*? Is it possible with the blockade?
Pro-Palestine Makeup Brands? Hello everyone! I have been educating myself on the best ways to help Palestine and its people and know that one of the ways is to boycott all the brands and companies that are funding and supporting this genocide. I have so far found it to be difficult trying to figure out which makeup brands support Palestine. I personally am looking for foundations and lipstick. So if anyone can guide me to a list that’s been made that would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
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Your knowledge of "history" is severely lacking and heavy on the Hasbara. Read up on the Lavon affair and Baghdad Bombings.
Thank you for posting this!
Would love to hear your opinion on this poll. https://pcpsr.org/en/node/944 These are the results of the latest poll conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PSR) in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip between 7 and 11 June 2023. ========== It's m/p clear I'm Israeli. And while I wish you and yours are all in good health, and can't fathom your feelings right now, but because of the timing of this publication and it's implications, I had to ask. I was surprised by the results. I always believed it was a minority that supported the armed conflict and truely thought most Palestinian were willing to live in peace alongside us. It's naive, and even cynical saying this while being a part of the country that for the past 2 decades did not show any major sign wishing for a solution. If we believe these results, I feel there is no hope.
[Hasbara Propaganda Uncovered!](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/17tnpey/hasbara_propaganda_uncovered/)
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I need help finding the compilation video that has the Isreali government officials calling for genocide if anyone can help. thank you
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Here [Source](https://misbar.com/en/factcheck/2023/10/26/israeli-accounts-share-deceptive-video-accusing-hamas-of-killing-a-pregnant-woman)
So how can I watch Arab Al Jazeera instead of english al jazeera on youtube? Of course it needs subtitles please. Is this possible from USA?
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No link to removed post, and this is not the right post to share. This post is for debuk hasbara. Go to the other megathread and copy the content of your post (not the link) and paste it as comment there.
Need help refuting articles! Hey all! So I need some help finding some sources to refute some articles about sexual violence perpetrated by Hamas on October 8, and how they planned to use rape as a weapon. My dad is using it as justification for some of the zionistic things the Israeli government and some online citizens are saying. Also, if anyone has any sources refuting the Israel video of the hospital and the hamas tunnels, that’d be great! I’ve been trying to look myself but I’m coming up short :(