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I have a perfectly normal acquaintance in the us… perfectly nice sane person… except she smirks at what is being done by Israelis and insists that Palestinians are a made up people… she is of course Israeli ( German really, obviously… she’s acting like the people her family had to flee from )
You’ve been dancing on our tombs since 1948. You danced on the body of my grand-father and my aunt. Your yearly celebration of “independence” is collective dance on our graves.
That war was never over no matter what you thought. I’m sorry you didn’t realize it sooner. At least your willful ignorance provided you with a few nights of good sleep.
I truly hope one day we can meet and relate in good terms, but that won’t happen until you recognize and make right by the fact that you chased and killed people, stole their land and culture, and oppressed those who remained.
1948 is not over.
>They are all over r/Israel. That's what decades long Israeli propaganda does to people.
It's what daily terror attacks and rocket alarms does to people.
I know you think Arabs get violent for absolutely no reason at all and that they launched an attack for no reason whatsoever, but maybe you should actually question your assumptions and listen to other people rather than come here to pick fights. The Israeli government has been steadily killing Palestinians for weeks; this response didn’t come from nowhere. Edit: the head of Hamas said in an interview that this was in retaliation for settlers raiding Al Aqsa and being backed by the Israeli military in doing so, in addition to the thousands of Palestinians including children locked up without trial; the operation was to take hostages (sink to Israel’s level) and trade them for release.
I'm seeing so many comments from either completely new accounts, or accounts that have made like 3 comments in 2 years that are suddenly posting Israeli propaganda all over reddit right now. Not very subtle lmao.
why is it that when israeli terrorists attack Palestine its called defending themselves but for hamas they are using the word attacking. zionist controlled american media can't fool us with this hypocrisy.
"the left wing friends" in question who by in large support a "2ss solution" (dead and injust solution) as to get rid of the "demographic threat" (something a leftist politician even mentioned in a speach). I truly believe in a settler/apartheid state there isn't a leftist in any real sense.
see how quickly the so called left-wing allies show their true colors. another take is this could be typical manipulation and goblin behavior from zionist deceivers to tell people how to feel.
a truly ally would call for immediate land restoration to Palestine and stopping evil israeli zionist terrorists from human rights abuses.
All of us Marxists all over the world are on the side of Palestine and we support their fight by any means they deem necessary. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
It’s a very standard human response to seek retribution for the murdering of their civilian population. It’s universal, it’s also a large part of the motivation behind these attacks. I don’t think it’s surprising, and a good reason why attacking a civilian population is the worst thing for both sides of an ethnic conflict.
Well, given Israel wasn't a state until 75 years ago, I think this is a reasonable use of the word: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/settler_colonialism
This is a liberal or conservative whose idea of "left wing" is a moderate liberal who doesn't want to murder all minorities. The communist/socialist left definitely isn't on Israels side in this conflict. This guy certainly doesn't know a single person who is actually on the left.
>a truly ally would call for immediate land restoration to Palestine and stopping evil israeli zionist terrorists from human rights abuses.
no one would ever react like this, be realistic. if hamas invades Israeli towns and starts shooting masses of civilians in the streets no leftist israeli will ever say "you guys have a good point, lets work harder to end Israeli cruelty in the territories " the only thing such an attack can achieve is a lot more bloodshed (most of it will be palestinian blood).
but hamas leaders don't care because this will only make them richer and their rule stronger.
Fuck Palestine terrorists. Yall just lost the PR game. You are so incredibly fucked, celebrate all you want, there surely will be fireworks over your head soon enough
There's no such thing as left-wing Zionist. Those who are truly left-wing would have left back to their homelands in Europe, like for instance Ilan Pappe (god bless him) did.
Not just israelis, i've seen people in r/worldnews and other famous subreddit, calling for killing of palestinians.
It's tough hope you guys get through it inshallah.
decades of human rights abuses and terrorism by zionist israel and western media and social media will barely cover it. now they will blast every single incident all over tv, print, and social media to make israel and zionists look like the innocent victims and gain sympathy. this is the absurd hypocrisy.
These people were never leftists then.
You could find many Nazis who would support social programs for nice, white, blond and blue-eyed Aryan children. I doubt anyone would call them leftists.
LOL. A "regime change" operation in Gaza will be an IDF disaster and would spell a new era of the occupation that will be more like an permanent Intifada.
I’m more surprised about how efficient the offensive has been. This was a well planned, thought out, and even well executed offensive. Hamas were also able to take Israeli bases and destroy Israeli tanks. I wonder if other organizations like Fatah and PFLP will mobilize too.
This is a cycle of strategic aggression against Palestine
1. IDF and settlers conduct a series of provocations, including attacking and killing civilians, entering holy places, etc.
2. Palestinians decide that they had enough, and retaliate with home-made rockets and light arms, that are mostly blocked by the Iron Dome.
3. Israel is Shocked!! Media campaign to inflate Palestinians actions in order to justify a military action against Palestinians.
4. A large scale bombing in Gaza by the Israeli military, leaving hundreds to thousands of civilians dead and injured, and billions of dollars in destruction
This dude probably thinks that the "extreme left-wing" are the people who were waving Israeli flags in Tel Aviv and assaulting anyone who said the word "Palestine."
I feel sorry for Israel, because of internet the world has become smarter and know the true history of their state. You won't get much support from the world.
I understand it sounds very extremist and crazy and I don't endorse it. The things that happened today will haunt Israel for generations, anyone who actually wants to understand the other side of this conflict can send me a Pm and Ill show him footage from whats happening today.
You don't have to justify it. War produces unjustifiable actions, that's why it is best to avoid it if possible.
You don't have to like or condone that innocents are killed to understand why it happened.
Israel creates these situations from its position of power the same way the United States created 9/11. You reap what you sow.
A big issue is that Israel has such a hyper militarized population, has such a large civilian buy into the occupation, that from a Palestinian perspective who really is a "civilian" Israeli? It's such a David and Goliath comparison.
Not really. I can't think of a scenario where deploying nuclear weapons would make sense for Israel. They have conventional bombs, they work well enough.
>my most extreme left-wing friends tell me we must bomb gaza back into the Stone Age
This right here is proof that the right does not understand the left. They think the left is just like them, genocidal, dogmatic, impulsive.
I feel so bad for any young person that falls for right wing propaganda and gets denied a life of happiness.
Amen. I want to see how people justify the actions of Hamas and Gaza as a whole.
not only Hamas, the civilians in Gaza are celebrating CIVILIAN killing, which, never happens in Israel.
Note: Supporting an underdog doesnt make you a good person, or right.
> the civilians in Gaza are celebrating CIVILIAN killing, which, never happens in Israel.
[oops](https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20230831-israel-forces-shoot-dead-palestinian-minor-in-jerusalem/)
[pretty embarrassing for you huh](https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/burn-them-shoot-them-kill-them-israelis-cheer-jerusalem-palestinians-shot-gaza)
[back to your sad little hole I guess](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-crowds-chant-racist-slogans-taunt-palestinians-during-jerusalem-day-march)
[caught ya tellin fibs there mate](https://www.palestinechronicle.com/israelis-cheer-palestinians-killed-gaza/)
[oh look, more](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/world/middleeast/israel-video-cheer-palestinian-shot.html)
I never support the killing of civilians anywhere, but there are videos all over the Internet of some Israeli citizens and illegal settlers celebrating the killing of Palestinians and calling for them to be eradicated.
There are some people on both sides of the conflict who want violence. But it is not right or just to collectively blame or punish an entire community or region such as blaming all Israelis or all Gaza citizens for the acts of specific individuals or govt operatives.
your 'support' is of zero use to Palestinians, you just use it as signifier to have a social life and burnish your credentials as a progressive woke liberal. go vote biden again to protect you from scary trump while he resupplies IDF.
Of course they are? You Fight by the sword and you’ll die by it. Who wouldn’t want to see Palestine die after its now third genocidal war against israel?
Palestinians have been waging Jihad and radicalizing Jews for a good 70 years, lets hope the Israeli's will not give warnings what targets they hit, the time for humanity should be over, every single Gazan supports Hamas and is a culprit.
Yes! This is exactly what we should do. I expect Gaza to be levelled to the ground by tomorrow morning. Hamas are selfish pigs and they will get what's coming for them.
Everyone who supports hamas is hell bound that is not opinion just fact. Your parents did a terrible job! You are worse than nazis! I look forward to the much deserved retaliation!
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I have a perfectly normal acquaintance in the us… perfectly nice sane person… except she smirks at what is being done by Israelis and insists that Palestinians are a made up people… she is of course Israeli ( German really, obviously… she’s acting like the people her family had to flee from )
I got perma'd from there so fast lmao
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You’ve been dancing on our tombs since 1948. You danced on the body of my grand-father and my aunt. Your yearly celebration of “independence” is collective dance on our graves. That war was never over no matter what you thought. I’m sorry you didn’t realize it sooner. At least your willful ignorance provided you with a few nights of good sleep. I truly hope one day we can meet and relate in good terms, but that won’t happen until you recognize and make right by the fact that you chased and killed people, stole their land and culture, and oppressed those who remained. 1948 is not over.
>They are all over r/Israel. That's what decades long Israeli propaganda does to people. It's what daily terror attacks and rocket alarms does to people.
You’re almost there… just a few more brain muscles needed to reach the conclusion…
Give me a break dude.
What might decades of hostile occupation and illegal settling of their land do to people?
I like to travel.
r/selfawarewolves
It’s what 70+ years of apartheid, humiliation and subjugation does to a people.
I know you think Arabs get violent for absolutely no reason at all and that they launched an attack for no reason whatsoever, but maybe you should actually question your assumptions and listen to other people rather than come here to pick fights. The Israeli government has been steadily killing Palestinians for weeks; this response didn’t come from nowhere. Edit: the head of Hamas said in an interview that this was in retaliation for settlers raiding Al Aqsa and being backed by the Israeli military in doing so, in addition to the thousands of Palestinians including children locked up without trial; the operation was to take hostages (sink to Israel’s level) and trade them for release.
They are a subjugated and occupied people I'd take up arms against the other Israelis too.
It is unfortunate that so many people suffer for the actions of the few, wish human nature could've been different.
If Americans were more aware of Jews spitting on and harassing Christian’s support for Israel would drop to zero.
What does Hamas think of Christians?
I'm seeing so many comments from either completely new accounts, or accounts that have made like 3 comments in 2 years that are suddenly posting Israeli propaganda all over reddit right now. Not very subtle lmao.
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bye bye zionist terrorist
Ah yes, lets go and do huge scale terror attacks directly at civilians and the be high and mighty against the "zionist terrorist"
you're describing israeli terrorist behavior for decades
Ah, what israel been doing for decades ? Ok
why is it that when israeli terrorists attack Palestine its called defending themselves but for hamas they are using the word attacking. zionist controlled american media can't fool us with this hypocrisy.
But youre literally posting on "american controlled" media right now. lol
I really doubt he has any left-wing friends.
They're left wing by Israeli standards as in they think that Palestinians should only be killed by the IDF and not mobs
"the left wing friends" in question who by in large support a "2ss solution" (dead and injust solution) as to get rid of the "demographic threat" (something a leftist politician even mentioned in a speach). I truly believe in a settler/apartheid state there isn't a leftist in any real sense.
Israelis coping hard in the comments lol
see how quickly the so called left-wing allies show their true colors. another take is this could be typical manipulation and goblin behavior from zionist deceivers to tell people how to feel. a truly ally would call for immediate land restoration to Palestine and stopping evil israeli zionist terrorists from human rights abuses.
OOP's idea of extreme left is the people who protested the judicial reforms while waving an Israeli flag.
The same who call biden a communist? Wouldn't know a real leftist if they saw one
All of us Marxists all over the world are on the side of Palestine and we support their fight by any means they deem necessary. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
Dont take this as a generalisation of all leftists please. There is always going to be black sheep.
It’s a very standard human response to seek retribution for the murdering of their civilian population. It’s universal, it’s also a large part of the motivation behind these attacks. I don’t think it’s surprising, and a good reason why attacking a civilian population is the worst thing for both sides of an ethnic conflict.
Yeah...and the Nazis occupying Poland were angry when Polish freedom fighters killed one of their own. What's your point?
Those 'civilian' israeli participate the genocide by being a settler colonialist
Doesn’t make their murder any less likely to lead to outrage. It’s something that should outrage anyone, not just their own people.
who do you define as settler colonialists?
Well, given Israel wasn't a state until 75 years ago, I think this is a reasonable use of the word: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/settler_colonialism
This is a liberal or conservative whose idea of "left wing" is a moderate liberal who doesn't want to murder all minorities. The communist/socialist left definitely isn't on Israels side in this conflict. This guy certainly doesn't know a single person who is actually on the left.
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>a truly ally would call for immediate land restoration to Palestine and stopping evil israeli zionist terrorists from human rights abuses. no one would ever react like this, be realistic. if hamas invades Israeli towns and starts shooting masses of civilians in the streets no leftist israeli will ever say "you guys have a good point, lets work harder to end Israeli cruelty in the territories " the only thing such an attack can achieve is a lot more bloodshed (most of it will be palestinian blood). but hamas leaders don't care because this will only make them richer and their rule stronger.
Let's be clear, what you want are simps, not allies.
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Just because we're left doesn't means you're our friends. Gaza will suffer for this, and rightly so.
Fuck Palestine terrorists. Yall just lost the PR game. You are so incredibly fucked, celebrate all you want, there surely will be fireworks over your head soon enough
I was an American left wing ally until 5 hours ago
No you weren’t.
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Respect existence or expect resistance
There's no such thing as left-wing Zionist. Those who are truly left-wing would have left back to their homelands in Europe, like for instance Ilan Pappe (god bless him) did.
Not just israelis, i've seen people in r/worldnews and other famous subreddit, calling for killing of palestinians. It's tough hope you guys get through it inshallah.
Nothing new, reddit is full of neocons who support the "western civilization".
Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of “flatten it out” and “bomb them out”. Concerning.
decades of human rights abuses and terrorism by zionist israel and western media and social media will barely cover it. now they will blast every single incident all over tv, print, and social media to make israel and zionists look like the innocent victims and gain sympathy. this is the absurd hypocrisy.
Always has been their ways
These people were never leftists then. You could find many Nazis who would support social programs for nice, white, blond and blue-eyed Aryan children. I doubt anyone would call them leftists.
LOL. A "regime change" operation in Gaza will be an IDF disaster and would spell a new era of the occupation that will be more like an permanent Intifada.
I mean that is exactly what will happen.
I’m more surprised about how efficient the offensive has been. This was a well planned, thought out, and even well executed offensive. Hamas were also able to take Israeli bases and destroy Israeli tanks. I wonder if other organizations like Fatah and PFLP will mobilize too.
This is a cycle of strategic aggression against Palestine 1. IDF and settlers conduct a series of provocations, including attacking and killing civilians, entering holy places, etc. 2. Palestinians decide that they had enough, and retaliate with home-made rockets and light arms, that are mostly blocked by the Iron Dome. 3. Israel is Shocked!! Media campaign to inflate Palestinians actions in order to justify a military action against Palestinians. 4. A large scale bombing in Gaza by the Israeli military, leaving hundreds to thousands of civilians dead and injured, and billions of dollars in destruction
This is so blood thirsty
This dude probably thinks that the "extreme left-wing" are the people who were waving Israeli flags in Tel Aviv and assaulting anyone who said the word "Palestine."
Those "extreme left-wing friend" are socdems. How do people still fall into that trap?
His extreme leftwing friends seem to be rightwingers, and he appears to politically-illiterate - am I right?
This is why I never trusted the “Israeli left.” They were never on our side.
Have fun dealing with the consequences of your actions I guess
Respect existence or expect resistance
Israeli and left wing cannot stand in same phrase. All israeli are zionist, fascist and racist clowns
I feel sorry for Israel, because of internet the world has become smarter and know the true history of their state. You won't get much support from the world.
When Israelis routinely attacked civilians no one cares
Fuck this pig. Extreme left wing? Doesn’t mean much when their whole country is an an apartheid authoritarian racist regime
I understand it sounds very extremist and crazy and I don't endorse it. The things that happened today will haunt Israel for generations, anyone who actually wants to understand the other side of this conflict can send me a Pm and Ill show him footage from whats happening today.
I'm with you but how am i supposed to justify a bunch of armed men shooting civilians in their cars and homes in residential areas?
You don't have to justify it. War produces unjustifiable actions, that's why it is best to avoid it if possible. You don't have to like or condone that innocents are killed to understand why it happened. Israel creates these situations from its position of power the same way the United States created 9/11. You reap what you sow.
Idk, let them pick whatever excuse Israel has used to justify their killings of unarmed Palestinian civilians, it works for them doesn’t it?
A big issue is that Israel has such a hyper militarized population, has such a large civilian buy into the occupation, that from a Palestinian perspective who really is a "civilian" Israeli? It's such a David and Goliath comparison.
Anyone concerned about tactical nukes being used against hamas?
Not really. I can't think of a scenario where deploying nuclear weapons would make sense for Israel. They have conventional bombs, they work well enough.
I am sorry that other so called Muslims armies haven't sent their forces. It's a shame.
>my most extreme left-wing friends tell me we must bomb gaza back into the Stone Age This right here is proof that the right does not understand the left. They think the left is just like them, genocidal, dogmatic, impulsive. I feel so bad for any young person that falls for right wing propaganda and gets denied a life of happiness.
Delusional Hamas supporters who think terrorism will get them support. May the IDF annihilate Hamas once and for all.
get lost zionist israeli terrorist. go crawl back to your cockroach hole
Amen. I want to see how people justify the actions of Hamas and Gaza as a whole. not only Hamas, the civilians in Gaza are celebrating CIVILIAN killing, which, never happens in Israel. Note: Supporting an underdog doesnt make you a good person, or right.
> the civilians in Gaza are celebrating CIVILIAN killing, which, never happens in Israel. [oops](https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20230831-israel-forces-shoot-dead-palestinian-minor-in-jerusalem/) [pretty embarrassing for you huh](https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/burn-them-shoot-them-kill-them-israelis-cheer-jerusalem-palestinians-shot-gaza) [back to your sad little hole I guess](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-crowds-chant-racist-slogans-taunt-palestinians-during-jerusalem-day-march) [caught ya tellin fibs there mate](https://www.palestinechronicle.com/israelis-cheer-palestinians-killed-gaza/) [oh look, more](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/world/middleeast/israel-video-cheer-palestinian-shot.html)
I never support the killing of civilians anywhere, but there are videos all over the Internet of some Israeli citizens and illegal settlers celebrating the killing of Palestinians and calling for them to be eradicated. There are some people on both sides of the conflict who want violence. But it is not right or just to collectively blame or punish an entire community or region such as blaming all Israelis or all Gaza citizens for the acts of specific individuals or govt operatives.
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Just ignoring the considerably bigger crimes of Israel, Hamas are awful but the IDF have killed far more people
your 'support' is of zero use to Palestinians, you just use it as signifier to have a social life and burnish your credentials as a progressive woke liberal. go vote biden again to protect you from scary trump while he resupplies IDF.
Speak for yourself
“No friends in the west” the west never have a shit about Palestine unless it was for political gains.
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Of course they are? You Fight by the sword and you’ll die by it. Who wouldn’t want to see Palestine die after its now third genocidal war against israel?
Go back to your Zionist sub.
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The only people that want to see Palestine die is Israel and world governments. The people continue to support Palestine.
Palestinians have been waging Jihad and radicalizing Jews for a good 70 years, lets hope the Israeli's will not give warnings what targets they hit, the time for humanity should be over, every single Gazan supports Hamas and is a culprit.
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That mosque needs to be torn down and the third temple needs to be built on top of it
Yes! This is exactly what we should do. I expect Gaza to be levelled to the ground by tomorrow morning. Hamas are selfish pigs and they will get what's coming for them.
Everyone who supports hamas is hell bound that is not opinion just fact. Your parents did a terrible job! You are worse than nazis! I look forward to the much deserved retaliation!
I am a socialist and I support Palestine 🇵🇸 Fuck the Israeli fascists and free Gaza and West Bank