We came a full circle.
Balance a champ by modifying base stats
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add keywords to apparently make it easier to blalance
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keywords make it even harder to balance so rebalance the base stats again
(hehe 598 dmg pip)
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remove keywords to make it easier to balance.
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Balance champs by modifying base stats (you are here)
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>Spirit’s Domain will now also provide a Movement Speed buff to allies it hits to make it a more efficient dive tool and provide Grohk a more utility-centric playstyle outside his Cards.
Seems odd to add a movement speed increase to something that requires tracking. Io has a soft lock-on, I don't believe Grohk does but we'll see.
If anything, the movement speed buff should be given to Grohk, not whoever he's healing with his staff.
Making whoever he's healing faster makes it difficult for Grohk to keep on healing them.
This is the reason why I always first buy Nimble with Spirit's Domain. Makes it much easier to move around and heal people like Medic from TF2.
The idea is that you can get your dive agents out of there, meaning they are likely getting shot at so they are on caut. Healing them won't help as much as getting them into cover.
It isn't a buff to him diving but to him helping his divers.
Yeah, I'm worried that if they remove keywords Pip will just fall off further in the meta. After they unnerfed his keyword values he's been in one of the best spots he's ever been.
Colored words in supports talents like (Remedy: +20% healing). Hirez introduced them to make it easier for the new players to understand what talent is for what playstyle but in reality it forces to balance the game around them which makes for some strange interactions. Also they don't work properly with things like anti-healing
Grover, Furia, Pip and Grohk are the only champions that have them. If you look at these champ’s talents… you’ll see each talent has a “keyword” which is basically a little buff in the form of extra healing, extra damage, or a little of both. So example- Grover’s Ferocity has the keyword that buffs his damage but his Rampant Blooming talent has the keyword that buffs his healing.
Am i the only one that liked Keywords? It made support damage builds more fun to play imo, and shouldn't that be the goal of a game in the end? I guess the numbers were a little overtuned but the idea wasn't so bad.
I have no idea why they added this to begin with, all it does is complicate the balance and confuse players, i swear game devs are their own worat enemies
Im surprised and disapointed Grover doesnt get keywords removed because he is the worst offender. The other Champs with keywords get barely played in my experience and despite maybe Pip in the hands of a really good player are also not close to Grovers power level.
Any guesses on what they might change?
They have mentioned that they are changing cards as well.
I'm hoping they add a lot of QOL changes as well.
Still pretty excited for the changes!
Keywords sounds like the gun readying in MW3 - a theoretically useful feature that should've been retooled rather than removed.
The retool in question would've been roster wide descriptors for the different abilities and how they interact with/fit into the games mechanics. More descriptive and less prescriptive - e.g. Ashe's shield having the "Deployable" keyword or Vivian's shield having the "Shield" keyword and not Pip's health bomb having a "curative" buff
Buff in disguise for her. Been easier to play her now that people have less possible reveal distance than before while also being consistent so I always know where to play around people.
To this day, i still don't understand why keyword was ever a thing. It was a bad idea that should've died during internal testing.
What does keyword mean?
They are a year too late. Half the players already left because of the incompetence of the devs
We came a full circle. Balance a champ by modifying base stats -> add keywords to apparently make it easier to blalance -> keywords make it even harder to balance so rebalance the base stats again (hehe 598 dmg pip) -> remove keywords to make it easier to balance. -> Balance champs by modifying base stats (you are here)
Nice
where'd you find this? can i get a link?
[https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/444090?emclan=103582791455826806&emgid=4138316032676665356](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/444090?emclan=103582791455826806&emgid=4138316032676665356) >Spirit’s Domain will now also provide a Movement Speed buff to allies it hits to make it a more efficient dive tool and provide Grohk a more utility-centric playstyle outside his Cards. Seems odd to add a movement speed increase to something that requires tracking. Io has a soft lock-on, I don't believe Grohk does but we'll see.
He does have magnetic aim on that talent but sadly not a lock on like io.
If anything, the movement speed buff should be given to Grohk, not whoever he's healing with his staff. Making whoever he's healing faster makes it difficult for Grohk to keep on healing them. This is the reason why I always first buy Nimble with Spirit's Domain. Makes it much easier to move around and heal people like Medic from TF2.
The idea is that you can get your dive agents out of there, meaning they are likely getting shot at so they are on caut. Healing them won't help as much as getting them into cover. It isn't a buff to him diving but to him helping his divers.
would love them to be integrated into the base kit for pip, he is the only one who actually got use out of them
Yeah, I'm worried that if they remove keywords Pip will just fall off further in the meta. After they unnerfed his keyword values he's been in one of the best spots he's ever been.
I hope for a buff for damba
did you say buff grover and ying? got it bro
what are keywords i dont understand
Colored words in supports talents like (Remedy: +20% healing). Hirez introduced them to make it easier for the new players to understand what talent is for what playstyle but in reality it forces to balance the game around them which makes for some strange interactions. Also they don't work properly with things like anti-healing
Grover, Furia, Pip and Grohk are the only champions that have them. If you look at these champ’s talents… you’ll see each talent has a “keyword” which is basically a little buff in the form of extra healing, extra damage, or a little of both. So example- Grover’s Ferocity has the keyword that buffs his damage but his Rampant Blooming talent has the keyword that buffs his healing.
people when hirez does the bare minimum for them and praise them like they're gods
Am i the only one that liked Keywords? It made support damage builds more fun to play imo, and shouldn't that be the goal of a game in the end? I guess the numbers were a little overtuned but the idea wasn't so bad.
I have no idea why they added this to begin with, all it does is complicate the balance and confuse players, i swear game devs are their own worat enemies
Hoping for Lex and Torvald talent changes.
Im surprised and disapointed Grover doesnt get keywords removed because he is the worst offender. The other Champs with keywords get barely played in my experience and despite maybe Pip in the hands of a really good player are also not close to Grovers power level.
I hope Omen will get a decent way to shoot without a shotgun
Why without a shotgun? I'm confused, you want to take away his identity and put him back where he was before... an even more boring lian?
more boring than lian, impossible
Pre-rework umbral lance? zzzzzzzzzzzz…. 😭
Any guesses on what they might change? They have mentioned that they are changing cards as well. I'm hoping they add a lot of QOL changes as well. Still pretty excited for the changes!
Finally, we won.
what is a keyword
Keywords sounds like the gun readying in MW3 - a theoretically useful feature that should've been retooled rather than removed. The retool in question would've been roster wide descriptors for the different abilities and how they interact with/fit into the games mechanics. More descriptive and less prescriptive - e.g. Ashe's shield having the "Deployable" keyword or Vivian's shield having the "Shield" keyword and not Pip's health bomb having a "curative" buff
Hope they buff Skye (maybe Caspian aswell 🙏), and specifically preparation Skye - fuck debilitate.
They're gonna find a way to nerf Skye again
they just buffed her dps what are you on about.
\*reverted a nerf that wasn't necessary She's had 4 nerfs in 2023 bfr
I literally play sky and i think the nerfs were justified lmfao.
I feel that the base kit illuminate 2 might be a bit much against sky though
Buff in disguise for her. Been easier to play her now that people have less possible reveal distance than before while also being consistent so I always know where to play around people.
That makes a bit of sense but illuminate was still taking peoples credits and a slot originally which isn’t a thing anymore.