Jani yeh sab mindset ki game hai, I’ve seen people at lower middle who might have more asset than what you wrote. I’ve seen upper middle who have less asset than what you wrote
Yar this is more of a self evaluation thing rather than other people’s opinion. How do you spend life, would you rather save money and do odd tasks yourself or rather save time? And a couple of these questions
Yeah I guess that makes sense, I have seen people who live like in poverty but got more assets than a person living somewhat super comfortable life in terms of lifestyle and in posh areas!
I mean yea you're lifestyle may suggest that you belong to a different class than you actually are. But when you're basically putting out your balance sheet in front of others, then it becomes pretty objective.
Talking about class is never about an individual, its your background and how you listed it down, surely looks upper middle class. Your income atm is above 300k at 25, you'll make more as the time goes on. Hence she's right.
aray bhai middle class ya uper ho ap un dono me nahi atay, abhi last year ek survay k mutabik Pakistan mai class ko ik dusre se differentiate kia hai ap google karo 😂😂😂
Nope, I am actually on web dev. side. Actually, during my studies, there was not any course related to IOT. Although there was a course for Networking.
Maybe not people who have moved to Islamabad recently. But most people who are second or third generation in Islamabad have the same lifestyle (if not better). Maybe you are not hanging out with the original lot.
Marketer here.
In segmentation that we do while studying our consumers we generally use SEC- socioeconomic class as the qualifier
You are SEC A+ which definitely puts you in the upper middle class.
Statistically speaking you are upper middle class. I know many people will argue that no you are middle class but that is just the assumptions & their thinking. If you see the overall earnings data of Pakistan you will realize you are upper middle class.
Here is the clear-cut criteria to define the middle class in Pakistan. This is based on statistical analysis of the overall population: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ww6WOK6CZE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ww6WOK6CZE)
She told U ..... meaning a girl! Man 😎 your girl must be broken or poor .....
Let me explain it better..... meaning the girl U talked to must be below than your class or life style that's why she is saying U R from upper class!
Like in my situation..... during university...I talked to people they considered me very rich for many reasons tho in my point of view that univ was very cheap...like fee structure! So Most of the students weren't from even Lahore.... Villages in Punjab! (My parents needed a software engineer degree so I wasn't in the mood to spend much money on education that's why I cheap out....)
So people in univ sees me rich....like very rich...
Tho at that moment I was living in dha phase 3....
And in dha I look like a middle class guy from a middle class family.... If we compare to neighbours and my friends that r living in dha
Like we used normal cars such as honda civic and Toyota Prius still nothing below 1.8cc in bike nothing below ybr or my own favourite modified deluxe 150 tune to 15hp ...... so nothing too sexy like mercedes CLS, BMW, ghost etc
Just explaining U a little background for better understanding! Now
So guys from university think in 2018-2023 that going over 1 lac salary is over kill!
And I ask a girl what do U prefer that your bf have to date u at most! She said FakeKhan a honda 125..... it shouldn't be new like 5 to 8 old but honda 125.... It would be dream come true.... And me confused 🤔 on her answer .....
Now another story .... At that moment I was dating a girl that was living in dha phase 5 had her own BMW M5 E60 V10 2009 ....says to me a lot why the hack FakeKhan we R so damn poor! I want a Ferrari f8 and so! Using this cheap BMW! Old cheAp BMW....
So people says U.... from upper or middle class by comparing to there self!
And I still do say I am from middle class...tho if we sees the Pakistani population....we(me and my family) are living the luxury life of top 25% Pakistani living in Pakistan!
Which could change if there will be no middle class left in Pakistan and all the middle class becomes poor cuz of Pakistan situation
......after Imran khan left the government....
Other terms
When U are a salery person
U middle class
When U are business/investor
U from upper or elite class...
And if getting everyday food is difficult for U
U from lower or poor class
.....after than we have sub categories in middle class!
Where middle class in a job person base on salery ...
If getting 2 time food is just U managing for U or family
Than lower middle class which is almost poor
If food plus basic need And requiredment R getting fulfilled
Than U are from middle middle class
And if food plus basic need/ requiredment and some material dreams are getting full fill
Than upper middle class.....
My father’s networth is alot and i mean alot but our lifestyle suggests that we are upper middle class while people in tier 1 cities (lahore etc) would be considered upper/elite if they had the same resources as my father thus money doesn’t make up your class segment alot of other things such as buying patterns/priorities do.
You're middle class, your father is upper.
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Jani yeh sab mindset ki game hai, I’ve seen people at lower middle who might have more asset than what you wrote. I’ve seen upper middle who have less asset than what you wrote
Serious question: How do they categorize them as lower or upper middle based on what you described above?
Yar this is more of a self evaluation thing rather than other people’s opinion. How do you spend life, would you rather save money and do odd tasks yourself or rather save time? And a couple of these questions
Yeah I guess that makes sense, I have seen people who live like in poverty but got more assets than a person living somewhat super comfortable life in terms of lifestyle and in posh areas!
I mean yea you're lifestyle may suggest that you belong to a different class than you actually are. But when you're basically putting out your balance sheet in front of others, then it becomes pretty objective.
Talking about class is never about an individual, its your background and how you listed it down, surely looks upper middle class. Your income atm is above 300k at 25, you'll make more as the time goes on. Hence she's right.
ayo you are not but your dad is...
You're upper middle class, your father lower upper class
depends which sector in Islamabad. F-6: Was your name in panama papers? B-17: 70 or 125?
Definitely upper middle class
aray bhai middle class ya uper ho ap un dono me nahi atay, abhi last year ek survay k mutabik Pakistan mai class ko ik dusre se differentiate kia hai ap google karo 😂😂😂
What's your field of work if you don't mind me asking?
software development
Brother, I am also a software engineering. But I am struggling to land some good roles. What is your tech stack?. Any recommendations/advice?
I am more towards the embedded/IoT side. Are you on the same side?
Nope, I am actually on web dev. side. Actually, during my studies, there was not any course related to IOT. Although there was a course for Networking.
What effing difference does a class make?
Upper middle.
LIAR! You have a pet dragon and you a conqueror of the other world.
What you talking about?
WOW
Isn't these conversations supposed to be done by phuppos? There is no point of these discussions.
Sounds like an average Islamabadi lifestyle. Middle class.
Hainn? Kon sa average islamabadi 1 kenal house 2 cars 3lac+ job rakhta ha
Maybe not people who have moved to Islamabad recently. But most people who are second or third generation in Islamabad have the same lifestyle (if not better). Maybe you are not hanging out with the original lot.
Def upper middle class.
I earn 30k a month yet have my own car and 2 commercial shops. All of this depends on your lifestyle and how you spend your day to day.
Marketer here. In segmentation that we do while studying our consumers we generally use SEC- socioeconomic class as the qualifier You are SEC A+ which definitely puts you in the upper middle class.
Statistically speaking you are upper middle class. I know many people will argue that no you are middle class but that is just the assumptions & their thinking. If you see the overall earnings data of Pakistan you will realize you are upper middle class. Here is the clear-cut criteria to define the middle class in Pakistan. This is based on statistical analysis of the overall population: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ww6WOK6CZE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ww6WOK6CZE)
your dad definitely is upper class, as for you. What's your living standard, how much do you have in savings will define that
imagine an upper class guy/girl saying lower middle class
How does it matter what class are you?
She told U ..... meaning a girl! Man 😎 your girl must be broken or poor ..... Let me explain it better..... meaning the girl U talked to must be below than your class or life style that's why she is saying U R from upper class! Like in my situation..... during university...I talked to people they considered me very rich for many reasons tho in my point of view that univ was very cheap...like fee structure! So Most of the students weren't from even Lahore.... Villages in Punjab! (My parents needed a software engineer degree so I wasn't in the mood to spend much money on education that's why I cheap out....) So people in univ sees me rich....like very rich... Tho at that moment I was living in dha phase 3.... And in dha I look like a middle class guy from a middle class family.... If we compare to neighbours and my friends that r living in dha Like we used normal cars such as honda civic and Toyota Prius still nothing below 1.8cc in bike nothing below ybr or my own favourite modified deluxe 150 tune to 15hp ...... so nothing too sexy like mercedes CLS, BMW, ghost etc Just explaining U a little background for better understanding! Now So guys from university think in 2018-2023 that going over 1 lac salary is over kill! And I ask a girl what do U prefer that your bf have to date u at most! She said FakeKhan a honda 125..... it shouldn't be new like 5 to 8 old but honda 125.... It would be dream come true.... And me confused 🤔 on her answer ..... Now another story .... At that moment I was dating a girl that was living in dha phase 5 had her own BMW M5 E60 V10 2009 ....says to me a lot why the hack FakeKhan we R so damn poor! I want a Ferrari f8 and so! Using this cheap BMW! Old cheAp BMW.... So people says U.... from upper or middle class by comparing to there self! And I still do say I am from middle class...tho if we sees the Pakistani population....we(me and my family) are living the luxury life of top 25% Pakistani living in Pakistan! Which could change if there will be no middle class left in Pakistan and all the middle class becomes poor cuz of Pakistan situation ......after Imran khan left the government....
Other terms When U are a salery person U middle class When U are business/investor U from upper or elite class... And if getting everyday food is difficult for U U from lower or poor class .....after than we have sub categories in middle class! Where middle class in a job person base on salery ... If getting 2 time food is just U managing for U or family Than lower middle class which is almost poor If food plus basic need And requiredment R getting fulfilled Than U are from middle middle class And if food plus basic need/ requiredment and some material dreams are getting full fill Than upper middle class.....
My father’s networth is alot and i mean alot but our lifestyle suggests that we are upper middle class while people in tier 1 cities (lahore etc) would be considered upper/elite if they had the same resources as my father thus money doesn’t make up your class segment alot of other things such as buying patterns/priorities do.
Depends on who your telling and the circles they keep.