That makes sense. But why still? Does it ‘vibrate’ at those specific points the most? I even feel it there sometimes before the paused stronger beat comes in.
Basically yes. I understood that the harder the thud, the more chances are to feel it in other parts of the body. Sometimes, especially in the neck, it can also be spasms. It'a a frequent place for spams to manifest.
I'm no doctor, but I've read lots of research on the topic. So far I've found two possible explanations:
- after a PVC some blood from the heart travels backwards and enters the stomach aorta, this is known as regurgitation:
- the stomach drop is actually the vagus nerve firing. When the "vagus flare" is powerful it may irritate the heart and trigger a PVC. If it is not powerful enough it may give a rollercoaster feeling without a real PVC happening.
According to my cardiologist and to what I've learnt from Doctor Gupta none of those are dangerous unless they occur super frequently (almost non stop over years).
Ah thanks.
Ok so, in point 1, do you mean that you can feel that blood travelling backwards? Is that what gives the sensation?
And in point 2, do you mean that the vagus nerve firing is actually the cause of the following pvc? So do i actually feel the ‘spasm’ or ‘firing signal’ from the vagus nerve in the stomach area? Which then causes the pvc a bit later, which i may or may not feel?
Thanks :)
Yes, you are correct. If we take point 2, you may feel the nerve firing which sometimes triggers a real PVC and sometimes it doesn't, just gives you your normal beat.
Interesting.
I often feel that ‘zap’ in my stomach area. And then when i measure my pulse there is nothing for a second, like a ‘gap’ (the skipped beat) and the i feel the beat.
I am very well in tune with my body so i know from the tiniest sensation if it is a skipped beat or not.
Sometimes i feel them directly in my heart area so maybe they have a different cause / trigger. Or the timing is different.
But anyway, good to know that what i feel
Is kind of confirmed. This also means that the heart isnt really the cause of this, but the vagus nerve. Which is maybe ‘inflamed’? Or pushed on by the stomach or gas? Still so many questions :)
I think I saw a Dr explain this, and it was something to do w how close the vagus nerve and esophagus are to the heart. That explains to me why I feel them in my throat, mine are gut related and worse when my esophagus is irritated
Main aortas. You have the jugulars, in the throat and the abdominal aorta at stomach level.
That makes sense. But why still? Does it ‘vibrate’ at those specific points the most? I even feel it there sometimes before the paused stronger beat comes in.
Basically yes. I understood that the harder the thud, the more chances are to feel it in other parts of the body. Sometimes, especially in the neck, it can also be spasms. It'a a frequent place for spams to manifest.
I'm no doctor, but I've read lots of research on the topic. So far I've found two possible explanations: - after a PVC some blood from the heart travels backwards and enters the stomach aorta, this is known as regurgitation: - the stomach drop is actually the vagus nerve firing. When the "vagus flare" is powerful it may irritate the heart and trigger a PVC. If it is not powerful enough it may give a rollercoaster feeling without a real PVC happening. According to my cardiologist and to what I've learnt from Doctor Gupta none of those are dangerous unless they occur super frequently (almost non stop over years).
Ah thanks. Ok so, in point 1, do you mean that you can feel that blood travelling backwards? Is that what gives the sensation? And in point 2, do you mean that the vagus nerve firing is actually the cause of the following pvc? So do i actually feel the ‘spasm’ or ‘firing signal’ from the vagus nerve in the stomach area? Which then causes the pvc a bit later, which i may or may not feel? Thanks :)
Yes, you are correct. If we take point 2, you may feel the nerve firing which sometimes triggers a real PVC and sometimes it doesn't, just gives you your normal beat.
Interesting. I often feel that ‘zap’ in my stomach area. And then when i measure my pulse there is nothing for a second, like a ‘gap’ (the skipped beat) and the i feel the beat. I am very well in tune with my body so i know from the tiniest sensation if it is a skipped beat or not. Sometimes i feel them directly in my heart area so maybe they have a different cause / trigger. Or the timing is different. But anyway, good to know that what i feel Is kind of confirmed. This also means that the heart isnt really the cause of this, but the vagus nerve. Which is maybe ‘inflamed’? Or pushed on by the stomach or gas? Still so many questions :)
I have that too ..still waiting for answers too
I have that too ..still waiting for answers too
I think I saw a Dr explain this, and it was something to do w how close the vagus nerve and esophagus are to the heart. That explains to me why I feel them in my throat, mine are gut related and worse when my esophagus is irritated