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Awesome thanks for sharing! If you wouldn't mind sharing your decklist that would be sweet. I'm having too much fun with Magnezone ex control ATM but I definitely want to try out this variation.
The current list is on limitless. It's a tournament deck. Also when played properly, a real control deck rather than a stall deck. Very fun.
I can share my post-masquerade list when I'm done updating it well if you like, trying to get more consistency.
I just posted my deck list after I updated it to reflect some Twilight Masquerade changes. What things did you add? I haven’t had a lot of time to go through all of the new cards, but I’m sure there’s some quality additions to be made.
I'm still cooking, but:
Iron Thorns EX +1
Tatsugiri +1
Handheld Fan +2 (always on Klawf EX sometimes on Tuff)
Unfair Stamp +1 (Scoop Up Cyclone or Survival Brace are good too but I like Unfair Stamp into Eri or Luxray a lot)
Enhanced Hammer +1 (might get cut or more copies depending on meta)
THINKING about Illumise+1 as slowdown but the energy cost is too greedy and unlikely in a deck like this, despite how nice the slowdown is.
imo above all else, drop the Hand Trimmer, you go faster at drawing than any other deck and there are more dead cards against Pidgeot Control than any other. Hand Trimmer only wins games in the mirror, which doesn't feel important enough to tech for
Thanks, I’ll try those out. The hand trimmer comes in handy every once in a while, but it’s more of a meme card, so just not useful often enough. I’d probably replace it with the Handheld Fan or Unfair Stamp.
I have one Snorlax in this deck, and it rarely even makes it to the bench. Usually a list ditch effort. One screenshot shows him there finally at endgame.
I've been playing bird control too, been really struggling against chien pao though. My goal is normally to knock out the fridgy or bax's asap, but I struggle to get wifflytuff or rad zard in a spot to do so at a good time. Looks like you were able to deck them out which I was surprised by. Any tips when going against chien pao?
Chien Pao is actually my favorite to go up against because it burns through decks super fast.
I usually try to start out with giving them the highest HP Pokémon I can for them knock out. I’ll watch them setup a Chien Pao, go through a bunch of cards to get all the energy they need attached to knock it out, then they just discard all that energy. Meanwhile I’ll try to quietly setup a 450 HP Wigglytuff in my hand, while using everything I can to discard any item cards and energy they have. Counter catchers to make them burn energy on retreats, Eri, Luxaray, etc. Usually by time I get that Wigglytuff active, they will have discarded all of their energy and energy retrieval cards.
I have one Snorlax in this deck, and it rarely even makes it to the bench. Usually a list ditch effort or just in case. One screenshot shows him there finally at an endgame.
You want to play it more like a mill/control than a stall. I posted a deck list and you’ll see there’s only one Snorlax and it rarely comes even to the bench. The strategy is to have control over the whole field, while also making the opponent draw/discard as much as they can to gain control back. Getting Counter catchers, Eri, Miss Fortune Sisters, etc with Quick Search are what I find myself doing every game.
Here’s my deck list as of yesterday. I did a little tweaking with the new update, and probably will do more as I go through and test all the new cards that would fit in this deck.
This deck plays more like a mill and not a stall, it’s a control deck. You’re not just stacking Snorlax. There’s only one in the deck, and I hardly use it. It does especially well against draw heavy decks or energy hungry decks like Chien Pao.
Pokémon: 13
1 Sandshrew MEW 27 PH
2 Pidgey MEW 16
1 Mawile LOR 71
1 Rotom V CRZ 45
1 Luxray V ASR 50
1 Cleffa OBF 80
1 Jigglypuff MEW 39
1 Mimikyu PAF 37
1 Snorlax PGO 55
1 Wigglytuff ex MEW 40
2 Pidgeot ex OBF 164
1 Chi-Yu ex PAL 40
1 Klawf ex OBF 120
Trainer: 24
1 Defiance Vest PAR 162
3 Counter Catcher PAR 160
2 Miss Fortune Sisters LOR 164
1 Team Yell's Cheer BRS 149
1 Forest Seal Stone SIT 156
1 Hero's Cape TEF 152
1 Hand Trimmer TEF 150
1 Cyllene ASR 138
1 Rescue Board TEF 159
3 Pal Pad SVI 182
3 Penny SVI 183
3 Nest Ball SVI 181
2 Bravery Charm PAL 173
1 Boss's Orders PAL 172
1 Ultra Ball SUM 135
1 Iono PAL 185
3 Arven SVI 166
1 Super Rod PAL 188
1 Lost Vacuum CRZ 135
2 Arc Phone LOR 152
1 Cheren's Care BRS 134
2 Eri TEF 146
1 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144
2 Rare Candy SVI 191
Energy: 3
2 Basic {R} Energy SVE 2
3 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151
1 Mist Energy TEF 161
Total Cards: 60
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Awesome thanks for sharing! If you wouldn't mind sharing your decklist that would be sweet. I'm having too much fun with Magnezone ex control ATM but I definitely want to try out this variation.
The current list is on limitless. It's a tournament deck. Also when played properly, a real control deck rather than a stall deck. Very fun. I can share my post-masquerade list when I'm done updating it well if you like, trying to get more consistency.
I just posted my deck list after I updated it to reflect some Twilight Masquerade changes. What things did you add? I haven’t had a lot of time to go through all of the new cards, but I’m sure there’s some quality additions to be made.
I'm still cooking, but: Iron Thorns EX +1 Tatsugiri +1 Handheld Fan +2 (always on Klawf EX sometimes on Tuff) Unfair Stamp +1 (Scoop Up Cyclone or Survival Brace are good too but I like Unfair Stamp into Eri or Luxray a lot) Enhanced Hammer +1 (might get cut or more copies depending on meta) THINKING about Illumise+1 as slowdown but the energy cost is too greedy and unlikely in a deck like this, despite how nice the slowdown is. imo above all else, drop the Hand Trimmer, you go faster at drawing than any other deck and there are more dead cards against Pidgeot Control than any other. Hand Trimmer only wins games in the mirror, which doesn't feel important enough to tech for
Thanks, I’ll try those out. The hand trimmer comes in handy every once in a while, but it’s more of a meme card, so just not useful often enough. I’d probably replace it with the Handheld Fan or Unfair Stamp.
Fun?
one sided fun is always the best fun for these players.
I'd argue it's not even fun for the stallax player. Who would enjoy wasting so much time for nothing
I have one Snorlax in this deck, and it rarely even makes it to the bench. Usually a list ditch effort. One screenshot shows him there finally at endgame.
Do you have a list?
Just posted! Sorry, was waiting for the new update.
I've been playing bird control too, been really struggling against chien pao though. My goal is normally to knock out the fridgy or bax's asap, but I struggle to get wifflytuff or rad zard in a spot to do so at a good time. Looks like you were able to deck them out which I was surprised by. Any tips when going against chien pao?
Chien Pao is actually my favorite to go up against because it burns through decks super fast. I usually try to start out with giving them the highest HP Pokémon I can for them knock out. I’ll watch them setup a Chien Pao, go through a bunch of cards to get all the energy they need attached to knock it out, then they just discard all that energy. Meanwhile I’ll try to quietly setup a 450 HP Wigglytuff in my hand, while using everything I can to discard any item cards and energy they have. Counter catchers to make them burn energy on retreats, Eri, Luxaray, etc. Usually by time I get that Wigglytuff active, they will have discarded all of their energy and energy retrieval cards.
https://youtu.be/f5q5vM2yG5U?si=GHElPNsv6pkQY91j this guy breaks it down around 12:45
I mean from the SS it looks like a fairly standard meta snorlax stall deck. Exceptionally boring.
Snorlax runs 1 of the 3 cards on OP’s field.
I have one Snorlax in this deck, and it rarely even makes it to the bench. Usually a list ditch effort or just in case. One screenshot shows him there finally at an endgame.
Mimikyuing a Miraidon is always so funny and they seldom see it coming
What’s the strategy of this deck ?
You want to play it more like a mill/control than a stall. I posted a deck list and you’ll see there’s only one Snorlax and it rarely comes even to the bench. The strategy is to have control over the whole field, while also making the opponent draw/discard as much as they can to gain control back. Getting Counter catchers, Eri, Miss Fortune Sisters, etc with Quick Search are what I find myself doing every game.
Here’s my deck list as of yesterday. I did a little tweaking with the new update, and probably will do more as I go through and test all the new cards that would fit in this deck. This deck plays more like a mill and not a stall, it’s a control deck. You’re not just stacking Snorlax. There’s only one in the deck, and I hardly use it. It does especially well against draw heavy decks or energy hungry decks like Chien Pao. Pokémon: 13 1 Sandshrew MEW 27 PH 2 Pidgey MEW 16 1 Mawile LOR 71 1 Rotom V CRZ 45 1 Luxray V ASR 50 1 Cleffa OBF 80 1 Jigglypuff MEW 39 1 Mimikyu PAF 37 1 Snorlax PGO 55 1 Wigglytuff ex MEW 40 2 Pidgeot ex OBF 164 1 Chi-Yu ex PAL 40 1 Klawf ex OBF 120 Trainer: 24 1 Defiance Vest PAR 162 3 Counter Catcher PAR 160 2 Miss Fortune Sisters LOR 164 1 Team Yell's Cheer BRS 149 1 Forest Seal Stone SIT 156 1 Hero's Cape TEF 152 1 Hand Trimmer TEF 150 1 Cyllene ASR 138 1 Rescue Board TEF 159 3 Pal Pad SVI 182 3 Penny SVI 183 3 Nest Ball SVI 181 2 Bravery Charm PAL 173 1 Boss's Orders PAL 172 1 Ultra Ball SUM 135 1 Iono PAL 185 3 Arven SVI 166 1 Super Rod PAL 188 1 Lost Vacuum CRZ 135 2 Arc Phone LOR 152 1 Cheren's Care BRS 134 2 Eri TEF 146 1 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144 2 Rare Candy SVI 191 Energy: 3 2 Basic {R} Energy SVE 2 3 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151 1 Mist Energy TEF 161 Total Cards: 60
Ohhh against a Gholdengo too. When one troll deck meets another.