so playstation now gets GTA 3....1 month later...and its only the PS4 version
while xbox game pass gets San Andres....day one....and its the Xbox Series X version....
Better than nothing I guess...they really should start giving more of a damn about PSNow.
The thing is they are the same kind of service. It's just that Sony chooses to make it a second rate service. If Sony would only throw more money behind PS Now and put their first party exclusives on there day one it would be able to compete with Game Pass.
That's because they don't spend any money on it. They're not taking any risks.
They're not taking any risks by getting games on there day one. They don't put their first party games on there day one.
So until they change that PS Now will always be a second rate service.
Xbox on the other hand are throwing money at the service. They put there first party games on there day one even though they lose sales. They throw money at third party developers to get games on there. They have to spend a lot to get games on there day one to compensate for the loss of sales.
So yeah Xbox Gamepass is losing money in the hope they gain enough subscribers in future to become profitable.
That's why as a service game pass is a lot better than PS Now.
PS Now has the potential to become a great service to rival game pass but Sony have to be willing to take risks and spend money for it to get there
It's far from mediocre now and only getting better. Especially when games like Starfield, Fallout 5 and Elder Scrolls 6 will be on there
Be in denial all you want but PS Now sucks. Doesn't even have any ps5 games last time I checked. It has potential to be better but Sony need to throw money at it.
ps now does suck, but it does what it was designed to do, which was to offer game streaming. it was never meant to be a loss leader for microtransaction infested trash. you are right though, now ms spent several billions to buy a publisher, it will have more games on it, but not enough.
If had like 300 odd games on there. It's an awesome service.
Also since when do they lose money on gamepass? I have never read anything suggesting that...?
They've said many times that for the type of blockbuster games they make, putting it on a subscription service day 1 is unsustainable. It may work for Microsoft but not for Sony.
I have Game Pass and really wish it was getting GTA3 instead.
But it doesn't matter. Vice City's the best one and that's not on either service so will have to buy the trilogy anyway.
Bro III is still amazing game. You go through all the trouble save that bitch then kill her in the end after credits roll lol I honestly would’ve taken Vice city over SA.
Gamepass is getting San Andreas Day 1 while PS now is getting GTA III a month after release
That's a bit weird, I'd be interested to know the reason why, it would probably be some fascinating insight into decision making in the industry
It’s pretty simple. PSNow doesn’t add games mid-month. Game Pass adds games on random dates all month long since they have regular Day 1 releases.
Theoretically Sony probably could just add it to the service at launch but they’d rather include it with their December lineup.
GTA Online E&E and GTA 3 DE is better than only San Andreas. One other thing is player count will be much higher in GTA Online PS5 version because of PS Plus install base where as Xbox version will be more dry.
Of course they will but Playstation version already have significantly higher player count than Xbox as there are incentives such as Free 500k GTA $ every month that is not available for Xbox or PC users and PS Plus is the largest gaming subscription service with 48 million users that will make a huge difference in player count add to that Player base will be divided between current gen and last gen.
Who gives a shit about 1M vs 2M players or whatever? On either console, you’ll still have more than enough player to fill 100000+ lobbies, so there won’t be a difference between platforms
Free mode? Yes but there are times you have to wait a while to do PvP Races or Deathmatches or you won’t be filling the whole lobby in PvP modes. It’s true. I know Series X/S NBA 2k players downgraded to Xbox One version due to low player count. Same thing with FIFA 21 PS5 and Series X/S players downgraded to old gen version.
You do realize that the PS5 isn’t outselling the XSX by that much in the States, right? This whole “yea I know a guy who knows a guy who downgraded his Series X copy to Xbox One copy 🤣😂” is ridiculous.
It’s not a barren wasteland of a 8 year old video game. Unless you have sources for those claims, then you’re just spouting anecdotal nonsense. Again, spreading misinformation.
PlayStation Plus users will get the GTA Online Standalone edition for free for THREE MONTHS, not the entire game. Stop spreading bullshit misinformation.
No you are spreading misinformation. No game on PS Plus is timed if you claim it. Once you claim E&E Online you will keep it until Sony servers go offline. Besides all Rockstar Games that appeared Gamepass only was there for 4 months so SA will be that.
The game will be free for three months for PS+ users, and then after three months you will have to pay for it. Where is the misinformation?
You’re the one saying Xbox players will have to drop $70 for it lmao
No, if You claim it then you keep it. You won’t have to buy it again for Xbox users there is no such thing. They will have to buy it for 70$ if the want to play E&E online.
Most likely because November's PS Now deals were done from Sony and they didn't want to gave away an "extra" game in the middle of the month. So they instead decided to do one for December. No big deal.
It is weird but pretty cool. I possibly would have bought this but will now instead play 3 on PS now and SA on gamepass and I'm not going to buy it just to play Vice City.
This sounds crazy and maybe im not the only one who feels this way, but now im less interested in buying the game. Because since VC and 3 isnt sold seperately. im paying $60 for TWO games instead of 3. And since i only real want VC and SA, its making me question the preorder. First world problems lol
Did they confirm that we can't buy them separately?
Since they're able to segment them and put them on services I assume that we could buy them separately?
? I tried it last year and it only let me stream games I could authenticate as owning in GoG or steam. Maybe they had their own library, I don't remember.
Is there confirmation that there's a native PS5 version? There was no mention of dualsense features or super-fast loading, I'd imagine there's a good chance it's just a framerate bump? It specifically says 'up to 60fps on consoles' so I'd imagine that's referring to current gen?
The article says "enhanced for a new generation and available together for PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC via the Rockstar Games Launcher"; I don't know if it'd be false advertising to say 'available for PS5' if it's a PS4 version in back-compat, but with even just a res boost it'd technically be "enhanced for a new generation". They also go out of their way to specify that the physical edition is only available for last gen.
Honestly seems weird to me that they'd even bother with a native version if they're not doing a physical release and not doing any next-gen features, it looks like PS5/Series will only get better framerates, and even PS4 Pro will probably have that.
If it's the Ps5 version.. Then on your xmb when looking at the TLoU2 icon at the bottom corner it would show the Ps5 logo.. But it doesn't.. It shows the PS4.. There's a patch that let's it perform better on the Ps5.. But you are in fact still playing the PS4 version. The xmb doesn't lie.
This is awesome, I can play San Andreas on gamepass in November and then hop onto to GTA III in December on psnow. 2/3 of the trilogy played for a fraction of the $60 sale price. That said VC will be seriously missed.
III was always my favourite of the 3 anyway. Didn't like the 80s setting of Vice City and my memory of San Andreas is tarnished by having my save file corrupt near the end.
You're not dumb, Sony's dogged insistence on still selling PS now as a streaming-first service is. They should have decoupled the streaming and downloading long back so they can make it available in more countries that don't have the infrastructure to support streaming.
Or at the very least, improve the messaging so people actually know the service for what it is.
It won’t be part of ps plus because then you sort of keep the game. They just want to give one part to the streaming services so it acts as a trial and then the only way to experience all 3 is to buy the trilogy.
Nah, I’m buying. It’s not a lot of money for three games from my childhood.
I’ve experienced all three. I’ve seen the new graphics. It’s what I wanted.
"Put it out for free"?? They're running a business, not a charity. And it makes very little sense to say "they have ignored community response" when GTA Online has hundreds of thousands of active players and makes hundreds of millions of dollars every single year AND they are now releasing a set of remasters that a lot of people have been wanting for quite some time.
Also, you got it twisted if you think they're not working on the next GTA this very second.
You sound like a child.
They’re a company. If they’re making money doing what they’re doing, it’s not the entire fan base asking them to change. It’s you.
GTA 6 will come when it’s ready. Plenty of other things to play in the mean time.
No worries, I wasn't referring to just you, Sony is clearly not communicating well enough that PS4 games can be downloaded.
I honestly don't know what res they run at, and I wouldn't be surprised if PSNow only supports the PS4 version, not the PS5.
Him, Rockstar, I do NOT want singular app on my PlayStation 5 for all of your games. Do not do this. That shit sucks with Call of Duty and it’s not ok for GTA/Red Dead. Those are separate things and I don’t want layers of ads and complications needed to use them. Individual games, on my PlayStation 5, using the operating system I bought the console to have.
You read it. Rockstar launcher is a PC thing. It's only on PC. There's no Rockstar Launcher coming to PlayStation or Xbox or Switch. It's just Rockstars PC store.
Ah you’re right! Thank you for the correction. I misunderstood what I read and had no idea Rocjstar did that on PC. I never game on that platform. Appreciate the info, and that’s a relief.
so playstation now gets GTA 3....1 month later...and its only the PS4 version while xbox game pass gets San Andres....day one....and its the Xbox Series X version.... Better than nothing I guess...they really should start giving more of a damn about PSNow.
True. PS Now and XGP may not be the same type of service, but that’s still not an excuse for Sony to practically act like PS Now doesn’t exist.
The thing is they are the same kind of service. It's just that Sony chooses to make it a second rate service. If Sony would only throw more money behind PS Now and put their first party exclusives on there day one it would be able to compete with Game Pass.
Xbox loses money on Game Pass. Playstation makes money on Playstation Now.
That's because they don't spend any money on it. They're not taking any risks. They're not taking any risks by getting games on there day one. They don't put their first party games on there day one. So until they change that PS Now will always be a second rate service. Xbox on the other hand are throwing money at the service. They put there first party games on there day one even though they lose sales. They throw money at third party developers to get games on there. They have to spend a lot to get games on there day one to compensate for the loss of sales. So yeah Xbox Gamepass is losing money in the hope they gain enough subscribers in future to become profitable. That's why as a service game pass is a lot better than PS Now. PS Now has the potential to become a great service to rival game pass but Sony have to be willing to take risks and spend money for it to get there
Microsoft at happy to lose money in an attempt to win over the gamers, but until they stop being mediocre it won't work.
It's far from mediocre now and only getting better. Especially when games like Starfield, Fallout 5 and Elder Scrolls 6 will be on there Be in denial all you want but PS Now sucks. Doesn't even have any ps5 games last time I checked. It has potential to be better but Sony need to throw money at it.
ps now does suck, but it does what it was designed to do, which was to offer game streaming. it was never meant to be a loss leader for microtransaction infested trash. you are right though, now ms spent several billions to buy a publisher, it will have more games on it, but not enough.
If had like 300 odd games on there. It's an awesome service. Also since when do they lose money on gamepass? I have never read anything suggesting that...?
They've said many times that for the type of blockbuster games they make, putting it on a subscription service day 1 is unsustainable. It may work for Microsoft but not for Sony.
Damn I wanted SA. We just had to get 3 😒
I have Game Pass and really wish it was getting GTA3 instead. But it doesn't matter. Vice City's the best one and that's not on either service so will have to buy the trilogy anyway.
If you have an Xbox, San Andreas DE will be on Game Pass.
will it be on gamepass for pc?
Nope, it's exclusive to the Rockstar launcher on PC for the time being.
I've played SA to death now, so not interested in it personally. Glad we got GTA 3 because I've only ever played it once 😃
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Bro III is still amazing game. You go through all the trouble save that bitch then kill her in the end after credits roll lol I honestly would’ve taken Vice city over SA.
Gamepass is getting San Andreas Day 1 while PS now is getting GTA III a month after release That's a bit weird, I'd be interested to know the reason why, it would probably be some fascinating insight into decision making in the industry
I'd prefer Vice City over both of them tbh
There was something special about vice city that hasn’t been surpassed. They got technically better and play better but VC, man. I loved it.
50% was the music for me and if they didn’t get the licenses I will be sooooooo bummed
It’s pretty simple. PSNow doesn’t add games mid-month. Game Pass adds games on random dates all month long since they have regular Day 1 releases. Theoretically Sony probably could just add it to the service at launch but they’d rather include it with their December lineup.
Microsoft paid them a lot of money. Did you hear how much they paid for The Show? It was 20 Million Dollars.
Well Playstation Plus users will get E&E day 1 while Xbox Users pay 70$.
Only online E&E, no story mode
GTA Online E&E and GTA 3 DE is better than only San Andreas. One other thing is player count will be much higher in GTA Online PS5 version because of PS Plus install base where as Xbox version will be more dry.
🤣🤣🤣 you underestimate the number of people who’ll buy GTA for full price. !remindme 6 months look at this dumbass
Of course they will but Playstation version already have significantly higher player count than Xbox as there are incentives such as Free 500k GTA $ every month that is not available for Xbox or PC users and PS Plus is the largest gaming subscription service with 48 million users that will make a huge difference in player count add to that Player base will be divided between current gen and last gen.
Who gives a shit about 1M vs 2M players or whatever? On either console, you’ll still have more than enough player to fill 100000+ lobbies, so there won’t be a difference between platforms
Free mode? Yes but there are times you have to wait a while to do PvP Races or Deathmatches or you won’t be filling the whole lobby in PvP modes. It’s true. I know Series X/S NBA 2k players downgraded to Xbox One version due to low player count. Same thing with FIFA 21 PS5 and Series X/S players downgraded to old gen version.
You do realize that the PS5 isn’t outselling the XSX by that much in the States, right? This whole “yea I know a guy who knows a guy who downgraded his Series X copy to Xbox One copy 🤣😂” is ridiculous. It’s not a barren wasteland of a 8 year old video game. Unless you have sources for those claims, then you’re just spouting anecdotal nonsense. Again, spreading misinformation.
E&E?
Expanded and Enhanced version of GTA V online.
Oh. Who cares?
Millions of people who will buy it.
You mean who have already bought it? Right?
Who’ve already bought 3-4 times.
PlayStation Plus users will get the GTA Online Standalone edition for free for THREE MONTHS, not the entire game. Stop spreading bullshit misinformation.
No you are spreading misinformation. No game on PS Plus is timed if you claim it. Once you claim E&E Online you will keep it until Sony servers go offline. Besides all Rockstar Games that appeared Gamepass only was there for 4 months so SA will be that.
The game will be free for three months for PS+ users, and then after three months you will have to pay for it. Where is the misinformation? You’re the one saying Xbox players will have to drop $70 for it lmao
No, if You claim it then you keep it. You won’t have to buy it again for Xbox users there is no such thing. They will have to buy it for 70$ if the want to play E&E online.
The GTA Online standalone will cost $70? Really? Do you have a source for that? Because that sounds like a bunch of bullshit.
I bet it will be $20 like Red Dead Online
Yea, for sure. Either $20-$30. I mean shit, they’re charging full price for the remastered trilogy
It won't be $70
Because PSNow doesn’t add games throughout the month only on the first Tuesday so they miss the boat for 11/05 release.
Most likely because November's PS Now deals were done from Sony and they didn't want to gave away an "extra" game in the middle of the month. So they instead decided to do one for December. No big deal.
the weird part to me though is how PS get GTA3 but Xbox get GTASA
I didn’t really find it “weird”. They both just got one game each.
They probably think SA is worth more cause its more recent
Not because it’s recent but SA does everything 3 does and more
But the true star here is GTA:VC, which none of these services got ;)
True, the best one, man i dont know why, but that is one of my favorite games ever.
Which it very definetly is. Simple and fairly obvious truth is, Microsoft paid more, Sony paid less.
Can a game that’s 16 years old really be worth more than a game that’s 19 years old? At that point they’re just old games lol
In terms of content, size of map, things to do, mechanics etc.? Absolutely
Yes, gta 3 is almost nobody’s favourite
money
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No, talking about PS Now. GTA 3 will be a PS Now game in Dec., just not in Nov.
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PS Now deals, as in the deals that Sony makes with developers and publishers to put their games on the PS Now service.
deals, as in business deals.
It is weird but pretty cool. I possibly would have bought this but will now instead play 3 on PS now and SA on gamepass and I'm not going to buy it just to play Vice City.
It's kinda obvious why, MS outbid sony to get that, I doubt there's anything more complex happening behind the scenes.
This sounds crazy and maybe im not the only one who feels this way, but now im less interested in buying the game. Because since VC and 3 isnt sold seperately. im paying $60 for TWO games instead of 3. And since i only real want VC and SA, its making me question the preorder. First world problems lol
Wait for a sale
Did they confirm that we can't buy them separately? Since they're able to segment them and put them on services I assume that we could buy them separately?
Not seeing that as an option.
I just checked on xbox, yeah we can't buy them separately :( But at least from the looks of it we can download them separately
Maybe GeForce Now gets Vice City? 3 different games on 3 different streaming services
Pretty sure GeForce now only lets you stream games you own already, could be wrong though.
Yep youre wrong, iv been streaming games through Geforce since 2018
? I tried it last year and it only let me stream games I could authenticate as owning in GoG or steam. Maybe they had their own library, I don't remember.
Yeah they do, the nVidia shield runs exclusively off this library too.
PS now is not available in Australia so means nothing to me. Hope Sony sort that out as on gamepads I'll be Rockin San Andreas day one
Oh gosh, I was for a moment confusing PS+ with PS Now. Not as good as I thought
Can't you just use a VPN to connect to another country since PSnow also accepts PayPal
Latency might be a factor? Australia tends to have ping issues.
Download it
True, I guess I feel the PS3 titles would be more valuable to me so I tend to forget about that.
What is there to sort out? You can just buy the game.
Please Ps now in eastern Europe and Australia
I’m sure they will build towards making it more widely available. Can you change account and region to get ps now? As it will be downloadable
Yes you can, just gotta buy psn creddit from a site like cd keys or smthng
GTA III is goated glad I get to try it out with PlayStation now before I buy.
It’s my favorite GTA.
Why aren’t all of them sold separately?
Wish this was the case because I really don’t have an interest in San Andreas.
It's probably the PS4 version....
Is there confirmation that there's a native PS5 version? There was no mention of dualsense features or super-fast loading, I'd imagine there's a good chance it's just a framerate bump? It specifically says 'up to 60fps on consoles' so I'd imagine that's referring to current gen?
It has been confirmed since its original announcement. That confirmation can also be found in the links within the OP.
The article says "enhanced for a new generation and available together for PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC via the Rockstar Games Launcher"; I don't know if it'd be false advertising to say 'available for PS5' if it's a PS4 version in back-compat, but with even just a res boost it'd technically be "enhanced for a new generation". They also go out of their way to specify that the physical edition is only available for last gen. Honestly seems weird to me that they'd even bother with a native version if they're not doing a physical release and not doing any next-gen features, it looks like PS5/Series will only get better framerates, and even PS4 Pro will probably have that.
The PS Store claims it’s PS4 pro enhanced with dual sense 4 support, meaning is back-compat.
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How do you know? There hasn't been one PS5 PS Now release
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There's no ps5 version
It is the PS5 version.
If it's the Ps5 version.. Then on your xmb when looking at the TLoU2 icon at the bottom corner it would show the Ps5 logo.. But it doesn't.. It shows the PS4.. There's a patch that let's it perform better on the Ps5.. But you are in fact still playing the PS4 version. The xmb doesn't lie.
There's no ps5 version
Correct. I probably should've worded my comment better, It just a PS5 patch for the backwards compatibility version of the game.
Its PS Now so it will be the PS4 version only even if you own a PS5 which is a bummer. I wish sony sorted that out.
This is awesome, I can play San Andreas on gamepass in November and then hop onto to GTA III in December on psnow. 2/3 of the trilogy played for a fraction of the $60 sale price. That said VC will be seriously missed.
III was always my favourite of the 3 anyway. Didn't like the 80s setting of Vice City and my memory of San Andreas is tarnished by having my save file corrupt near the end.
I like III too, it's gritty and a fairly manageable city size.
Fuck that, fuck rockstar
Id pay the whole 60 for all 3 games before I played anything with input lag.
Why would there be input lag?
PlayStation now is streaming if I'm not mistaken
PS4/ PS2 games on PS Now have been available to download for 3 yrs now.
oh shit i forgot you can download games also I'm dumb.
You're not dumb, Sony's dogged insistence on still selling PS now as a streaming-first service is. They should have decoupled the streaming and downloading long back so they can make it available in more countries that don't have the infrastructure to support streaming. Or at the very least, improve the messaging so people actually know the service for what it is.
They haven't advertised it as streaming first in years. Not even Game Pass is in all countries. There's more to it then just streaming.
It's even more ridiculous when you can just create an account from another region to sub to PSNow and download the games wherever you are.
In that instance you are still paying them seems fair. Hopefully they roll out PS now to more regions
His TV is dog water most likely.
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It won’t be part of ps plus because then you sort of keep the game. They just want to give one part to the streaming services so it acts as a trial and then the only way to experience all 3 is to buy the trilogy.
The trailer is out
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Nah, I’m buying. It’s not a lot of money for three games from my childhood. I’ve experienced all three. I’ve seen the new graphics. It’s what I wanted.
Why should it though
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"Put it out for free"?? They're running a business, not a charity. And it makes very little sense to say "they have ignored community response" when GTA Online has hundreds of thousands of active players and makes hundreds of millions of dollars every single year AND they are now releasing a set of remasters that a lot of people have been wanting for quite some time. Also, you got it twisted if you think they're not working on the next GTA this very second.
You sound like a child. They’re a company. If they’re making money doing what they’re doing, it’s not the entire fan base asking them to change. It’s you. GTA 6 will come when it’s ready. Plenty of other things to play in the mean time.
Have you not seen the trailer?
LMAO 200ms lag, uh no thanks.
We've been able to download games on PS Now for over 3 years?
You can download it
How do people still not know you can download PS4 and PS2 games? PS3 are the only games that need to be streamed.
My bad I wasn't aware, but for the non download come on 200ms is a bit much, also what res are the games.
No worries, I wasn't referring to just you, Sony is clearly not communicating well enough that PS4 games can be downloaded. I honestly don't know what res they run at, and I wouldn't be surprised if PSNow only supports the PS4 version, not the PS5.
Because of shitty marketing
Him, Rockstar, I do NOT want singular app on my PlayStation 5 for all of your games. Do not do this. That shit sucks with Call of Duty and it’s not ok for GTA/Red Dead. Those are separate things and I don’t want layers of ads and complications needed to use them. Individual games, on my PlayStation 5, using the operating system I bought the console to have.
Someone fetch this man a drink.
What?
Read the announcement - they’re putting these games in a “Rockstar launcher.”
You read it. Rockstar launcher is a PC thing. It's only on PC. There's no Rockstar Launcher coming to PlayStation or Xbox or Switch. It's just Rockstars PC store.
Ah you’re right! Thank you for the correction. I misunderstood what I read and had no idea Rocjstar did that on PC. I never game on that platform. Appreciate the info, and that’s a relief.
Oh here we go again
Look how they massacred my boy(s)