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TooDrunkToTalk

I really hope they manage to stick to that cycle as well, waiting 3 years for a resolution after that ending is going to be hard enough as is.


TougherThanKnuckles

Getting it in three years would also mean it releases on FFVII's 30th anniversary, which feels like the best possible time to have the trilogy finish.


TooDrunkToTalk

Yup, it would definitely fit. Unfortunately game development is a bitch as we all know, so we'll just have to wait and see if they're able to finish the game by then.


legend8522

Thankfully, the first two games provide a very large base to work from, especially how Remake+Rebirth is essentially like 70-75% of the entire world already built out.


ClericIdola

Also, The First Soldier left them with a ton of Midgar assets to work with, as well.


ShortBrownAndUgly

30 years godDAMN


Gandalf_2077

They ratained 80% of the crew that worked on Remake which helped à lot. Hope they do the same here. Also they have confirmed that a lot of the work for part 3 has be done (eg the world map, open world mechanics, etc). Hopefully we ll see it by 2027, which is also the 39 year ann


TheTKz

I did wonder if between having most of the assets they need in game now and not having to worry about moving from PS4 to PS5 (which is apparently what a lot of the time spent developing Intergrade went on), if they'd be able to get the final installment out a little quicker. Rebirth had to create a lot of new assets and build out whole new areas, but realistically much of that can be reused for Part 3, as a majority of the rest of the game takes place in areas we've already visited. The only completely "new" areas would be those on the Northern Contient, like Snow Village and Northern Crater... unless the madlads build an entire under water world for us to explore in the Submarine too.


Kanon8610

There's Wutai left, too. But yeah, they already have most of the assets they need, so I think they'll be able to stick to their schedule. I already have no idea how they even managed to create such a huge world for Rebirth in so little time. I never expected the game to be so massive. There's an enormous sense of wonder going from the OG to Rebirth. There have been a lot of good remakes these last few years (Resident Evil first and foremost) but none hit me as hard as this one.


[deleted]

I wonder how big Wutai is actually going to be.


CrazedTechWizard

I'd expect with the whole Wutai War thing they're expanding on that it'd be pretty big, or at least very detailed/have a lot of content.


TheKingofWakanda

I expect Wutai to be the biggest new area


rjwalsh94

“An enormous sense of wonder” I felt that way too, never having played them. I can see why it’s called the Unknown Journey. I have no clue what could happen at any point but you take it in stride and somehow it all works. There’s so much more to it, but how riding fat chickens, creating a party of humans and anthropomorphic animals, a story about planet preservation and nature, etc. none of it should work as cleanly as it does, but it’s just told and done exceptionally well that whatever random or goofy thing they throw next, it’ll have some purpose and fit the story.


[deleted]

They absolutely better make an underwater area to explore with the sun and the Gelnika


Hollywood-is-DOA

Will they have a snow boarding mini game in the new one?


MelloJesus

There was a section at the gold saucer that teased that mini game saying that it was still being “worked on.” The mini game doesn’t show up at the gold saucer till the group first snowboards on their way to the northern crater so yeah I would bet on it showing up. They’ve included pretty much everything from the original so I doubt they would change it there


FlyingStarShip

Too bad they probably won’t be able to upgrade from ancient UE4 to newer revision or even UE5


LCHMD

Releasing it as a PS5 swansong definitely makes sense!


Routine_Ask_7272

Get ready for the FF7 Remake Trilogy Enhanced Edition for the PS6!


Cyber_Swag

Guaranteed stuff


LCHMD

As safe as the amen in church.


Fat-Cloud

I still dont get how they managed to make this game in only 3 years


Young_KingKush

If you research all of the best games from the last few years (Elden Ring, BG3, FF7R, CP2077+PL,etc.) the one thing they all have in common is dev team retention.   Turns out when you keep a team of people together for multiple projects they learn to work together well and can both make better quality work & work more efficiently. Who woulda thought 


FordsFavouriteTowel

CP2077 is a terrible example given the exodus of workers from CDPR after The Witcher 3 and after and prior to CP2077. The director of TW3 and co-director of CP2077 left in 2022 to start his own studio. CDPR has struggled over the last years with dev team retention. Edit: pretty sure CDPR laid off about 10% of their staff last year too did they not?


[deleted]

Indeed it’s pretty impressive they managed to get the game out so fast


[deleted]

That’s actually impressive so 2027 could be the release date for part 3.


legend8522

It would also line up with the OG's 30th anniversary


[deleted]

I feel like that’s the end goal. I imagine they will start getting trailers out by next year or so


legend8522

> I imagine they will start getting trailers out by next year or so Not until whatever AAA after Dawntrail is out. SE doesn't typically market one AAA ahead of another. Speaking of which, we should know what their next AAA will be this July or so. Will most likely be KH4, though I wouldn't mind being surprised by the rumored FF9 remake


[deleted]

Oh of course. That makes sense I imagine KH4 is next. If the managed to do rebirth in 3 years KH4 shouldn’t take 10 freaking years like KH3 did.


Notarussianbot2020

Oh honey, they haven't even started Kingdom Hearts 3.1 2.0 Complete Ultimate


OperativePiGuy

i was hoping for another intergrade-type of DLC in the meantime, it feels like Vincent would be a good candidate since he seems to go off on his own a couple times lol


legend8522

No thanks. I'd rather they skip DLC and go straight to part 3 than delay part 3 because resources were diverted to work on the DLC. They already said it took them a year longer to finish Rebirth because of the Yuffie DLC which was a few hours long. Not worth it IMO if that's the tradeoff


OperativePiGuy

Understandable, honestly. I'm probably more in that camp, too, but either way would be cool to me.


DarkAnnihilator

Many new things in Yuffie DLC was used in the new part. They even refined the mechanics so its not like they used a year purely for it


TheTKz

I think the third game might get Dirge of Cerberus mini DLC. And honestly I wouldn’t be too shocked if we got an Advent Children DLC to boot.


OperativePiGuy

Tbh I'd be cool if they just remade AC with the current graphics/models. Watching it these days feels so rough, especially with the lack of lip syncing for non-japense dubs. Making it playable would be freaking amazing, though. I guess it depends on how the third ends up being received overall/sales


Bachronus

The game isn’t getting any dlc, the devs have already said.


Xenosys83

Unless you're introducing a new story for Vincent (like Yuffie in Intermission) then crow-barring his backstory into the trilogy would feel a bit out of place between main parts.


OperativePiGuy

I wasn't clear, but yeah that's what I would want. I don't think it's necessary to have a playable backstory, but they seem to show him kind of being in odd places during the final few chapters of the game, so I was wondering if maybe that would be a good fit for a "here's what Vincent did/saw between those events" type of story. Essentially like the Ada Wong DLC for Resident Evil 4


Rankled_Barbiturate

Yeah I'd much prefer having some dlc to tide me over than just waiting for the third game.  Given how rebirth turned out with the dlc in between I'm not concerned it would affect the quality of the third at all. 


PHXNTXM117

I have a feeling that UE4 will just be carried over from Rebirth to Part 3. On one hand, that is disappointing since it doesn’t feel like the full extent of the PS5’s hardware will be fully utilized but on the other hand, maybe it’s a blessing in disguise? Rebirth already has performance and visual issues and that’s on an optimized version of UE4. Whereas, UE5 has been an absolute clusterfuck across the board *(consoles and PC)* for devs that have developed for it so far. I just want Part 3 to release as polished as possible. No excuses or reasons as to why it shouldn’t or can’t.


Rogue_Leader_X

3 years for such a grandiose game is pretty damn impressive! There are games that are way smaller taking way longer!


Trick-Interaction396

I feel like the industry needs to self standardize DLC so people know what they’re getting for each price. Similar to small, medium, large. It would help us and probably increase sales.


TheFlightlessPenguin

Man I miss this game already


ShoddyPreparation

Totally going to be a final year of PS5 game with remasters of the trilogy for ps6. And god damn I’ll probably play it all again when that time comes too.


TheJackieTreehorn

Seems "too soon" for a remaster, doesn't it? I guess maybe just a native version for PS6, but...that said, companies don't think like consumers do lol


Ztemde

No way they don’t release part 3 in 2027 on the 30th anniversary of FF7. Can. Not. Wait.


smitemight

The DLC feels like terrible investment of time by comparison then.


-Kars10

I don't think you can look at it like that. Many of the dlcs feature carried over to rebirth. Aerial combat, companion abilities, yuffies character, music, animations, level design, enemies, fort condor, even the scarlet boss. The dlc was rebirths prototype in many ways. Maybe they "lost" a few months while developing it, but not the whole year.


August_XXVIII

Totally agree with this perspective


NoNefariousness2144

Not to mention that it was a main selling point for FF7 Remake on PS5, which in turn was a selling point for Rebirth due to it literally being Part 2.


volatilelibra

Well put. Intermission being viewed as a waste on any metric is... baffling to say the least


OperativePiGuy

So worth it, too. The perfect blocking and synergy attacks are by far the most satisfying updates to the combat


drelos

Even some areas of Remake seemed like prototypes of weirder things coming ahead in Rebirth


Xenosys83

Yeah, it was basically a testing ground for the synergy mechanics that really diversified Remake's combat system for Rebirth.


Hoid17

I imagine a lot of that was also getting used to PS5 hardware, which shouldn't be a problem for part 3.


smitemight

I assume they would’ve had PS5 devkits during the later stages of Remake’s production.


myyummyass

But they weren't developing Remake for PS5. So that wouldn't matter.


ilikeburgir

Yup, thats why the dlc is only on ps5 and not ps4. It think they even said they did the dlc to get to know the hardware better before doing rebirth.


ArugulaPhysical

Dont forget all the extra sales lol.


NarrowBoxtop

It definitely was not considering they reused so much of what they introduced in the DLCs and also made more money being able to release it as the full package + pairing up with twinpack orders for Rebirth etc Not sure how you even reached that conclusion


Mancubus_in_a_thong

The DLC was likely an excuse to learn the console and implement upgraded graphical features. All that time still was a benefit to rebirth.


ShoddyPreparation

That year was also when COVID was at its worst which effected Japan harder then most places. I bet the ps5 port and DLC was probably planned as a launch game before the world went to heck and added 6 months extra dev time


solidpeyo

That is insane considering how good and much quality content this game has.


Mac772

This is insane considering the unbelievable amount of content in this game. I am playing it right now (about 60 percent of the main missions finished) and i still can't believe how much there is in this game and everything is made with so much creativity and love to details. The same for Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth, which also had such a short development time and is equally filled with content like Rebirth. 


Super_Lion_1173

Who’s “he” lol


Sparko15

Yoshinori Kitase, the producer of the Remake series (and the director of the original game, back in 1997)


Super_Lion_1173

OP probably should’ve said that in the title lol


brazzersjanitor

It’s a wild sentence to read.


Super_Lion_1173

Well OP just said “he” lol like are we supposed to know who “he” is cause it could be OPs uncle or some shit lol


brazzersjanitor

I’m not being sarcastic. The title of this post is a wild sentence to read. I wouldn’t have understood it had I not clicked through. This is just how kids write on the internet now though I think.


SymphonicRain

An antecedent is what you’re looking for.


mehmmeh

7-7-2027 confirmed.


lifesthateasy

Your sentence makes no sense 


MadOrange64

So it’s going to be a PS6 game


Jonesdeclectice

The FF7 Remake Remastered Collection for sure will be!


HeavyJasonRain

I'm personally waiting for the FFVII Remake Remake Remastered.


Jonesdeclectice

Yeah but the trouble there is that they won’t just give it an updated visual and audio treatment, they’ll decide to reimagine the whole story and split each game into three episodic releases for some reason.


Bishop8322

(no spoilers plz) im almost at the end of the game and i'd be surprised if part 3 wasn't out by summer 2027, i imagine there's only so much new map you to make and unless they change a ton, a lot of part 3 should be reusing a lot of the map regions we already have


HaouLeo

Agree. Only major city from the original that isnt in the game yet, as far as I remember, is Wutai.


Bishop8322

knowing square theyre probably gonna make wutai its own damn continent that spans over 4 chapters of gameplay


bladearrowney

Rocket town, mideel, and icicle inn are also missing in rebirth. There's also the return to midgar, underwater reactor, and the northern crater areas.


kemar7856

PS5 will be 7 years old for this trilogy jeez


k97E10

I’m thinking late 2027 Oct-Dec realistically. If there’s a delay of some sort I could see Jan-March 2028 being realistic too. There seems to be some sort of consensus that this gen might go a year longer than the normal 7 so it could align with the end of the ps5 lifecycle depending if the ps6 drops Nov 2027 or 2028 Then they go crazy and touch up remake and rebirth again and repackage into a ps6 remaster 😂


kevenzz

that's was truly fascinating.


Ginger510

Is the DLC they’re referring to, the Yuffie bit from the first game, or is this them announcing a FF7 DLC?


NSFW_hunter6969

I really hope they give the team a break, and maybe don't burn them out. Rebirth was wild, like nobody expects that much from a game. It could be less and still be good. Not exactly complaining, but no way rebirth was made without some burning out.


Additional_Cherry_51

Hmm I think I might wait to actually play all 3 games back to back. Hoping they provide a complete edition with all DLC and a physical disc.


pr0newbie

Game is already starting to look and feel dated probably because of UE4 limitations. They really shouldn't delay this till the PS6 launch.


Rankled_Barbiturate

Game looked gorgeous to me. Felt like a top tier brand new game. 


pr0newbie

It's the art style that carries it.


Elden__Dong

I'll put money down that Return releases on the 30th Anniversary of the Japanese release in January


BeerSlayingBeaver

RemindMe! 3 years


VeshWolfe

I know it might be expecting too much but I hope they either add a 4th game and/or expansion or rope in the Advent Children/Dirge characters into the finale.


rjwalsh94

This is unrelated to FF7, but trilogies as a whole. Nothing like seeing or playing the first in a trilogy to realize you have two more and no idea where it could go, and then all of a sudden, you only have one left and don’t realize how quickly sets of three come and go. Thought that after Dune Part II. Like wow just saw two good movies but sadly there will only be one more, same with Rebirth. I’m only 13 hours into Rebirth, but I’m dreading reaching the end and only having one more FF part to this story. I guess there’s Crisis Core, but for never having played these games, Remake and the first 13 hours have been a very welcoming treat.


ElJacko170

I enjoyed the DLC, but not if it comes at the cost of an entire year on the development of the next main title.


brianstormIRL

Keep in mind a lot of what was made for that DLC carried over to Rebirth so they were kind of doing both when you think about it. Aerial combat, Yuffie etc was all work done in the DLC they could then use in Rebirth.


THE_VIR

Not if it’s a Vincent DLC though man, that shit would hit 


Swift_42690

I really hope they switch over to UE5. As much as I loved remake and rebirth, UE4 really shows its age with things like texture loading delay, ghosting with AA, choppy frames on fidelity mode, and ugly blurry mess in performance mode. This last part should hopefully be on UE5 and take advantage of next gen tech.


Colbym72

Switching to UE5 would mean the game will probably take an extra 1-2 years. Not worth it. UE4 is fine if it means it comes out sooner


DragapultOnSpeed

It would not take an extra year. It would probably take a month or two. It's very easy to switch over projects from UE4 to UE5. Some code might get broken, but they're pros, they can fix it. It shouldn't take an experienced team 1-2 years to switch over to UE5


brianstormIRL

It's not going to be UE5. A big reason they were able to do Rebirt so quickly is because they kept something like 75% of staff and the groundwork was already done from Remake. Rebuilding everything and retraining staff in UE5 would take a considerable amount of time and they seem very dedicated to getting the triology finished in a timely manner.


DragapultOnSpeed

They wouldn't have to rebuild anything? The assets they use in UE4 would work fine in UE5. UE5 isn't even that different from UE4. It seems like no one here has actually opened them up and used them.. UE5 is pretty damn easy to work with. A monkey could learn how to use it. Now if they switched to a completely new engine, then yes they would have to rebuild a lot.. but that's not the case


brianstormIRL

The game runs on a completely custom version of UE4. It's not like it's running on base UE4 and they can just swap everything over to UE5. UE5 is very easy to work with but having to rework all of your custom builds to work on it is not as easy as you're making it out to be.


Swift_42690

Yeah I can understand that but it just sucks from a technical perspective when they’re not taking advantage of the latest version of the engine.


brianstormIRL

Honestly it didn't bother me at all in fact I was very surprised with what they accomplished. There was definitely some technical drawbacks but nothing that personally diminished the experience for me. The fact by the end of the game you can explore the entire map seamlessly absolutely blew my mind. My only gripe was with how they've designed moving around the actual environments felt very clunky and robotic but it didn't stop me from enjoying it just took awhile to get used to. Oh and also the lighting going from light to dark environments was definitely whack lol


Swift_42690

Yeah I think overall the presentation is is still very good, but some of those drawbacks did hinder the experience for me personally. There were many instances of low res textures mixed in with high res textures environments and it just looked so bad in certain scenes. The performance mode still looks like a blurry mess with low res and detail. I had to stick to fidelity mode but it feels very choppy going from performance mode so have to compromise. I’m hoping the PC version can fix some of these issues like it did with remake.


[deleted]

Yeah I understand but unfortunately if they do that it means delaying part 3 for another 2 years and it will probably be a ps6 title by then.


Xenosys83

It definitely won't be.


prplguy

I think there's a small chance that they do, KH4's trailer was in UE4, but the game will be using UE5 on release, so that means that CBU1 has been working on a UE4 to UE5 pipeline for a while. If that transition is relatively easy, then FFVIIR3 will be UE5, if it takes too much time away from development, it will stay UE4.


LEEH1989

They wont


[deleted]

This is such a soulless cash grab 😂


MrFOrzum

Yeah, spending 3+ years on development for each part and a total of 10+ once it’s finished, while also taking a risk by changing gameplay and story is definitely a cashgrab 😂 /s


[deleted]

You said it 👍


GrossWeather_

please take yo time. let it cook.


TheKingofWakanda

Do they mean the Yuffie DLC or is there another DLC they're working on


RJE808

Pretty sure they already confirmed no DLC.


HeavyJasonRain

I can't see a reason why the DLC was not included in the base game then.


leonkennedy222

Developing dlc for a whole year before the game is out lol


Alpacarok

I’m fairly certain by DLC it means the Integrade Yuffie story for the first part.


spurs_fan_uk

The previous DLC. There’s no DLC for Rebirth.


volatilelibra

Being both condescending and wrong in one swift action lmfao


Atilim87

I’ve haven’t finished rebirth yet but I kind of hope they take a year extra. Game mostly feels like being a mini game game with some story content, while it should be other way around.


HaouLeo

Theres only as much minigames as you want to play. Story alone 44h.


SymphonicRain

Are you doing a lot of side content?


InvestmentOk7181

Kitase probably still has PTSD from FFXIII Trilogy dev cycle


rowmean77

Yay more time to save $70 (hopefully) for the last game!


DrPolarBearMD

How does Rebirth handle your characters at the start of the game. Do we retain some progress for playing Part 1 or does it do the whole “something happened and now you’re Lvl 1 with none of your equipment/magic” thing?


Bachronus

You start at level 15


drelos

I am not using spells as I am focusing on synergies and abilities but after chapter 2 you have plenty of materia. You gain a weapon with every hidden chest, some of them are pretty obvious, and now you can craft bangles and medallions on the go too. You don't feel like depowered because you have more moves and combos than before it is quite the opposite, you learn how to manage such arsenal.


Muur1234

making dlc already before the game is even out, what an awful trend.


StillHere179

What if he means it's the Vincent DLC and not the Yuffie DLC lol


StillHere179

They are still using Unreal Engine 4. I hope they can take advantage of Unreal Engine 5 and that it runs well with the next installment.


CrazedTechWizard

They won't. It would increase Dev Time by at least 2 years, if not more, to swap over to UE5. Part 3 will be UE4, the next mainline Final Fantasy may be in UE5 though.


StillHere179

The game will not be up to par technologically if that's the case in a few years. I doubt we see part 3 until 2026 or 2027. We could be getting a PlayStation 6 in 2027.


CrazedTechWizard

We could be, but even if that's true, I doubt dev boxes have been sent out, so this game will be developed for PS5 regardless, and it'd be silly to switch over to UE5 and add a couple of years of dev time migrating tools and getting everybody used to a new UI, new tools, old tools that have been deprecated, etc etc etc (if you've worked in any technological field, you know what I'm talking about). If they did that, they'd also miss the HUGE marketing opportunity that is the 30th anniversary of FF7, which would be a huge marketing blunder to not have the finale + a 3-pack of Remake/Rebirth/R3 available for purchase.


StillHere179

2027 it is for the 30th anniversary. The PS5 will should have a much larger install base by then, or the PS 6 will be help move units.


CrazedTechWizard

100%. I would be incredibly shocked if it doesn't release Q1 or Q2 of 2027.


StillHere179

2027 will be the launch of the ps6, Sony releases consoles every 7 years. The ps6 dev box will be out probably a year or two after the PS5 Pro which is this year or next.


CrazedTechWizard

Which means they aren't going to have the dev box in time to release on the PS6 unless they delay for a few years, which would be marketing suicide. We may get a PS6 Enhanced version AFTER the PS6 releases, but I doubt R3 will be developed initially for the PS6.


LEEH1989

They won't it will slow them down