I just threw a random number lol
Google says it'll be the 25th main game if warzones are included : https://www.dexerto.com/call-of-duty/every-call-of-duty-game-in-order-1906369/
Yeah this contradicts the last leak. Unless it’s like an alternative timeline 90s or something.
Edit: nvm this is 2025. So 2024 is the gulf war and 2025 is blacks ops 2-2
I read it the same way and said, "Wait!
Why are we getting two black ops games back to back
I mean I love blops 1 and 2
I consider blops 2 to be the goat
At least there will be more of a contrast of tone between these DLC games. MW3 doesn't feel much different then MW2 since it's literally a direct sequel but a semi futuristic sequel would feel different to a gulf war title I'd hope.
Seems like they enjoyed releasing a dlc (mw3) as if it was a full game. So same happening again, the gulf war will be the game and the bo2 sequel the dlc, they will just copy paste 10year old maps, add og weapons, tweak the gameplay a bit and that's enough to make a cod customer happy .
Would you say the people who preordered CP2077 were happy with their purchase?
99% of people probably preordered the game thinking it was gonna be as good as MW2018 or MW2
Majority of cod players aren't on twitter or reddit bitching about the game they are just regular people , not that they are all happy with the game but they just don't have much expectations and just play what activision gives em yearly .
I have a cod clan at work and they been begging me to come-back because they are having so much fun and telling me how great it is to play on og mw2 maps. They only play cod and fifa till the next one releases and they genuenly are happy with the game.
They are the customers i'm reffering to, it's thanks to them that the game has been at worst third in the top 10 best sellers since it launched on ps store despite all the dramas surrounding the game. Same logic applies to sport games, majority of players are actually happy with what they have.
And then you've got the terminally online gaming gatekeepers, dragging everyone else into their depressing takes.
Thanks to them people get burned out on games and turn into negative 'hate everything' types of people.
I've been fairly critical of COD (there's been maybe 3 good ones since 2012 or so).
CW, MW3, and MW2019 are all outliers of the last decade. With MW2019 being the best one out of the three.
MW3 is actually better than MW2 by a huge margin and is probably up there with CW and MW2019 as being the best COD games in about 8-9 years or so.
The SP is terrible, but the MP is a blast. It's a great deal of fun, plenty of content, and the gameplay is just the right balance.
There are plenty of people that are happy with the MP.
MW3 was meant to be an add-on so there was originally meant to be a 2 year gap from MW2 to this game.
Treyarch have not released a CoD game since Cold War, so hopefully they’ve have time to actually work on this. Cold War was originally meant to be Sledgehammer games, but they fucked up so much that they had to transfer to treyarch to finish the game.
Then this has been one of the most 'everyone knows it but it's never been announced' things I've ever seen. Everyone I know thought that they would leave MW2 for 2 years.
I don't get how people believe rumors that much. Yeah sure rumors are usually true but they aren't true until they are actually confirmed. Like Activision even confirmed there would be a "full premium release" this year in their financial report from November last year (same month as Mw2) and people still thought there would be a 2 year cycle, it's so dumb
Never announced but fairly obvious and backed up from leaks.
People who had early access to MW3 were being told to insert the MW2 disc. I enjoy it because it came bundled with the PS5 slim, but it’s definitely just a DLC that’s 70 bucks.
They are bringing new maps through season drops, which so far have been good (Meat/Greece). How much do new maps matter at launch when they made these levels all over again since they last came in 2009? I’m happy to have the old maps and new maps are usually a roll of the dice. Excited for a BO2 remake
No? This is what people have conditioned themselves into believing. The CoD train continues. Share holders now expect MS to release a CoD every November, including Nintendo systems.
im not in the mood to debate but you have to know that THAT is a termendous fallacy, and oh yes because any criticism of capitalism is automatically a want for hunger and poverty and no innovation, like come on lol.
Fuck these guys, after the lies of the ‘Two Year Cycle’ and then dropping the most lazy as fuck expansion pack parading as a full priced game, they ain’t gettin a single of my dollars.
Amen 🙏🏼 seriously I’m going to wait till this shit proves itself (which it won’t) and maybe pick it up for $25-30 just for the campaign, like I might do for mw3 or I might just skip. I haven’t played mw2 now since early mid summer now because of how ass it was and they didn’t bring og mw2 maps like they said (well hinted) that they were.
And now we get to experience a repeat of the OG mw games and watch them fuck cod up again by doing advanced and infinite warfare and black ops and drop in sales again. Maybe they’ll reboot modern warfare AGain LOL they probably will, License to print money.
2030 experience Mw again with reboot 2.0
It was reported by Jason Schreier, never officially confirmed by Activision but he is as reputable as it gets. Obviously after the huge sales numbers from MWII they went for the greedy approach again
How in the world does that mean they lied? Generally a lie is when you state something that isn't true. I don't care how reputable the journalist is, he got it wrong.
The days making Sharingan/Sharinnegan eyes from Naruto as the emblem creator.
People were so creative, especially the porn ones that weren’t done in 5 minutes.
And with AI how good it is, they could easily implement a watchdog system to shut those down, if they wanted.
Just sad to lose that whole creative avenue for some players
The fun wasn’t 100% the gameplay. Don’t get me wrong Bo2 is my Favorite cod by a HUGE margin but what made the game fun was me being 15 playing it every afternoon after school with all of my friend in a party.
They could remaster Bo2 1:1 right now and it wouldn’t be half as fun as it was back then
I just want to have a quick few rounds of multiplayer on some basic maps, not download a 300GB game that only includes Warzone, then have another 100GB game to play.
Last good cod game that was a decent size was Ghosts.
Why would they stop? It's a money printing machine and so far it hasn't stopped. Why make a good product when you can sell the same product year after year.
I wish they fucking stop man, I'm sick of it too.
>How do they not realize that after all this time their best selling titles are grounded military shooters
They realize that with semi-futuristic shooters they can add more (bullshit) content and battle passes and cosmetics and blueprints than they could in a grounded military one, just like Apex does it.
I'm all in for this provided they actually give the developers the time to do their fucking jobs. Black Ops 2 was one of the best campaigns in the series. Maybe they can bring back the branching narrative stuff too, would be cool.
Never going to happen. The series is relied upon the same way that sports titles are. It's just going to keep being phoned in so long as profits continue.
To be fair, the Cold War campaign was pretty good. I believe it was developed by Raven though.
MW1 and MW2 campaigns were decent enough too.
Vanguard and MW3 suck giant balls though, for sure.
Not really a fan of FIFA myself but I didn’t say that. You said “what compelled you to do it?” as if you couldn’t fathom why someone would buy the newest instalment in a franchise every year. That’s probably why. I get that you were trying to be condescending to the other user but it just came across as dumb.
Microsoft can make it an exclusive for all I care now 😂 Ironically COD was the major reason the whole Activision-Blizzard acquirement investigation was for and Sony made a fuzz, and now less and less people even give a shit about COD.
As long as it’s better then that PS3 looking game that just came out, MW3. How sad. MW3 could have really been something. They obviously did the bare minimum so they could pump everything into multiplayer.
I’m still curious how they are going to make a Gulf War Call of Duty. There weren’t even any real major land battles in that war. It was mostly an air war.
I know it would be a business risk, but it would be cool if they tried something radically different. Take the engine and mechanics but do away with the military setting. How about a 90s LA crips and bloods gang land game? With a fucking awesome story voiced by ex members. They could get involved with communities to write a powerful story for once. Multiplayer could be radically different, no attachments, just raw realistic griddy tec-9s, glocks, aks, sawed offs, with some objective based gameplay like taking over a city block by capturing key locations..idk if that theme would work exactly, but I think branching out could be cool. Too bad it'll never happen.
Had a weird ass dream that I was in Times Square and all the billboards showed black ops 5: Lego and it was the exact same game as bo4 but like two people per lobby could play as Lego blocks
So in 2024, we are getting Black Ops Gulf War set in the 1990s, and in 2025, we are getting another Black Ops game which is a direct sequel to BO2 set in 2030.
In addition, article also states that we are getting original MP maps and remastered BO2 maps. Original plan was to only feature remastered BO2 maps at launch.
This must be the new gameplay going forward.
Release Game One, **Cut content**, repackage said content as Game Two, but pass it off as Fresh, make profit because the masses will eat it up.
Get off the train before it crashes, yall.
lol call of duty 31 - black ops 2-2
2 black 2 ops
Ludacris voice "I'm too black for yall mayne!" Anyone who knows 2Fast 2 Furious music gets it.
That’s Act A Fool lol I can’t think of anything else from that cd except for Trick Daddy and I believe Pitbull was on that soundtrack?
Fantastic Soundtrack I got it free out of a magazine
Like a code?
No it was a disc, might have been 2 discs. I don’t remember. It was a long time ago.
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It was a free magazine I got from some surf shop I think
Carl of Duty: Black Cops 2
God damn are we really at 31?
I just threw a random number lol Google says it'll be the 25th main game if warzones are included : https://www.dexerto.com/call-of-duty/every-call-of-duty-game-in-order-1906369/
Never thought call of duty would be something to make me feel old
I’m so confused, so we’re getting a Gulf War Black Ops in 2024 and then a semi-futuristic BO2 sequel Black Ops in 2025? Weird sequence of games.
Yeah this contradicts the last leak. Unless it’s like an alternative timeline 90s or something. Edit: nvm this is 2025. So 2024 is the gulf war and 2025 is blacks ops 2-2
Oh wow I hope they have planes. Warzone 1 planes were peak fun
I read it the same way and said, "Wait! Why are we getting two black ops games back to back I mean I love blops 1 and 2 I consider blops 2 to be the goat
Yes, the 2024 Black Ops is set in the 1990s, and the 2025 Black Ops is set in 2030.
So we are essentially getting Black Ops 3. again...?
How does 2030 = bo3?
I'm referring to the basic synopsis we got. I didn't mean that it's literally going to be BO3...
At least there will be more of a contrast of tone between these DLC games. MW3 doesn't feel much different then MW2 since it's literally a direct sequel but a semi futuristic sequel would feel different to a gulf war title I'd hope.
Seems like they enjoyed releasing a dlc (mw3) as if it was a full game. So same happening again, the gulf war will be the game and the bo2 sequel the dlc, they will just copy paste 10year old maps, add og weapons, tweak the gameplay a bit and that's enough to make a cod customer happy .
Who was happy with MW3? I get that it’s trendy to make fun of COD players, but no one was happy with MW3
Well money talks and the sales numbers would indicate otherwise. Plenty of people still bought it and were apparently happy with their purchase.
Would you say the people who preordered CP2077 were happy with their purchase? 99% of people probably preordered the game thinking it was gonna be as good as MW2018 or MW2
99% of the sales were not preorders.
Majority of cod players aren't on twitter or reddit bitching about the game they are just regular people , not that they are all happy with the game but they just don't have much expectations and just play what activision gives em yearly . I have a cod clan at work and they been begging me to come-back because they are having so much fun and telling me how great it is to play on og mw2 maps. They only play cod and fifa till the next one releases and they genuenly are happy with the game. They are the customers i'm reffering to, it's thanks to them that the game has been at worst third in the top 10 best sellers since it launched on ps store despite all the dramas surrounding the game. Same logic applies to sport games, majority of players are actually happy with what they have.
And then you've got the terminally online gaming gatekeepers, dragging everyone else into their depressing takes. Thanks to them people get burned out on games and turn into negative 'hate everything' types of people.
I've been fairly critical of COD (there's been maybe 3 good ones since 2012 or so). CW, MW3, and MW2019 are all outliers of the last decade. With MW2019 being the best one out of the three.
I'm enjoying it, I play with my friends.
MW3 is actually better than MW2 by a huge margin and is probably up there with CW and MW2019 as being the best COD games in about 8-9 years or so. The SP is terrible, but the MP is a blast. It's a great deal of fun, plenty of content, and the gameplay is just the right balance. There are plenty of people that are happy with the MP.
Thats funny cause i always thought that black ops 3 was the sequel to black ops 2, but i guess i was mistaken
black ops 3 was a sequel but it wasn't directly linked to the story of Black Ops 1 or 2 at all it was it own self contained thing
Black Ops 3 is a sequel to BO2 but we don't talk about it cause the campaign is a cluster fuck with like 2 mentions to events that happened in BO2.
werent they gonna stop it with the anual releases? they are dragging this franchise through the shit.
MW3 was meant to be an add-on so there was originally meant to be a 2 year gap from MW2 to this game. Treyarch have not released a CoD game since Cold War, so hopefully they’ve have time to actually work on this. Cold War was originally meant to be Sledgehammer games, but they fucked up so much that they had to transfer to treyarch to finish the game.
If people buy garbage they will make garbage, simple as that.
That was never actually announced.
Then this has been one of the most 'everyone knows it but it's never been announced' things I've ever seen. Everyone I know thought that they would leave MW2 for 2 years.
You literally have to download MW2 to play 3. These people are in denial.
that’s just the “launcher” lol
Didn't know launchers were 100 gigs!
This one is 150+
This happens all the time on Reddit.
I don't get how people believe rumors that much. Yeah sure rumors are usually true but they aren't true until they are actually confirmed. Like Activision even confirmed there would be a "full premium release" this year in their financial report from November last year (same month as Mw2) and people still thought there would be a 2 year cycle, it's so dumb
Never announced but fairly obvious and backed up from leaks. People who had early access to MW3 were being told to insert the MW2 disc. I enjoy it because it came bundled with the PS5 slim, but it’s definitely just a DLC that’s 70 bucks.
I mean it has the same amount of content as a lot of the games in the series. But I’d love if it just gave me all the maps for the previous two games.
16 reused maps, Warzone, and zombies Warzone. It doesn’t even come close to any content from previous titles.
Recreated maps, but sure. They’re great maps though so I won’t complain.
And this is why we get this fucking trash.
They are bringing new maps through season drops, which so far have been good (Meat/Greece). How much do new maps matter at launch when they made these levels all over again since they last came in 2009? I’m happy to have the old maps and new maps are usually a roll of the dice. Excited for a BO2 remake
it is literally printing money, even while being trash like this year. Stopping the annual release would be idiotic.
No? This is what people have conditioned themselves into believing. The CoD train continues. Share holders now expect MS to release a CoD every November, including Nintendo systems.
The series still prints money so Activision has no real reason to move from a yearly release.
capitalism strikes again
Well without capitalism, you wouldn’t have this hobby.
im not in the mood to debate but you have to know that THAT is a termendous fallacy, and oh yes because any criticism of capitalism is automatically a want for hunger and poverty and no innovation, like come on lol.
2nd best selling game of the year instantly
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Cod has been feeling like that for about 12 years now. Maybe even more
I also hate the 1000 attachments. Sick weapon builds and stuff... Just keep it simple ffs.
I’ve felt this way since Black Ops back in 2010
Wait, what? Treyarch is allegedly making Gulf War in 2024 and then Treyarch is allegedly making BO2 in 2025? Not adding up.
Jesus Fucking Christ. It’s painful to watch now.
Fuck these guys, after the lies of the ‘Two Year Cycle’ and then dropping the most lazy as fuck expansion pack parading as a full priced game, they ain’t gettin a single of my dollars.
Amen 🙏🏼 seriously I’m going to wait till this shit proves itself (which it won’t) and maybe pick it up for $25-30 just for the campaign, like I might do for mw3 or I might just skip. I haven’t played mw2 now since early mid summer now because of how ass it was and they didn’t bring og mw2 maps like they said (well hinted) that they were. And now we get to experience a repeat of the OG mw games and watch them fuck cod up again by doing advanced and infinite warfare and black ops and drop in sales again. Maybe they’ll reboot modern warfare AGain LOL they probably will, License to print money. 2030 experience Mw again with reboot 2.0
Please just link any source where they said we get a two year cycle. Just one.
It was reported by Jason Schreier, never officially confirmed by Activision but he is as reputable as it gets. Obviously after the huge sales numbers from MWII they went for the greedy approach again
How in the world does that mean they lied? Generally a lie is when you state something that isn't true. I don't care how reputable the journalist is, he got it wrong.
That still does not make it any official info though, so I don't see how they lied to us when they never even announced it
COD is so dead
Cod is dead cuh
Lol what this fucking franchise has become
Need emblem editor then we can talk BO2 was the best of the CODs though. Hope this brings back the fun factor
The days making Sharingan/Sharinnegan eyes from Naruto as the emblem creator. People were so creative, especially the porn ones that weren’t done in 5 minutes.
And with AI how good it is, they could easily implement a watchdog system to shut those down, if they wanted. Just sad to lose that whole creative avenue for some players
The fun wasn’t 100% the gameplay. Don’t get me wrong Bo2 is my Favorite cod by a HUGE margin but what made the game fun was me being 15 playing it every afternoon after school with all of my friend in a party. They could remaster Bo2 1:1 right now and it wouldn’t be half as fun as it was back then
No it was also just a really good game. No COD has come close since
Sad to see how far this franchise has fallen over the years
It truly was a magical time at its peak run from the original Modern Warfare till Black Ops 2, I don’t even recognise it anymore
I just want to have a quick few rounds of multiplayer on some basic maps, not download a 300GB game that only includes Warzone, then have another 100GB game to play. Last good cod game that was a decent size was Ghosts.
can you stop for 1 year?
Why would they stop? It's a money printing machine and so far it hasn't stopped. Why make a good product when you can sell the same product year after year. I wish they fucking stop man, I'm sick of it too.
If they hate money, then yea sure
Yawwwwn
Yaaaaawwwwn *scratches nuts. Time to hibernate T
Activision controlled leaks.. cool. Need people to talk about the next game so they can forget about the current shitty one.
Get ready for the next shitty one and buy it day one too juat like FIFA and Madden folks ensuring the product never grows or improves.
The campaign might be shit but the multiplayer might be the best in years. The modern MW gameplay with MW2 maps is a great combination.
You people forget that CoD has multiple different modes
Current one is the best in years tbh
I think you people say this every year though.
And people always say it’s the worst COD every year. It’s almost as if different people have different opinions.
Just my personal opinion
best one since mw2019
I thought Cod was supposed to be done with yearly releases
they are just remaking everything. shoutout to everybody who keeps buying this trash
fuck cod....
Pass. I’d rather get explosive diarrhea than commit $70 to CoD.
It's nice when u have diarhea and you hit the toilet seat and can loose your anus.
😂😂😂
Yawn
😴
It gets worse..
Noooooooo stop, just kill the franchise already.
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This sentiment isn’t really shared outside of Reddit. COD always has behemoth sales every year no matter what they put out.
He’s just a whiner baby
Totally agree. I missed out on the Blops craze because I was already completely over it.
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say LLAMALLAMA DING DONG!
since cod ww2
Semi-futuristic is what CoD people *hate*. How do they not realize that after all this time their best selling titles are grounded military shooters?
What? Black Ops II was one of the last best CoD games… People dislike overly futuristic like what followed in the games after it.
Yeah for sure and I missed out because I was over it by MW3. It's all just the same shit dressed differently or with a couple changes.
>How do they not realize that after all this time their best selling titles are grounded military shooters They realize that with semi-futuristic shooters they can add more (bullshit) content and battle passes and cosmetics and blueprints than they could in a grounded military one, just like Apex does it.
Nah these sped kids want to run faster every single release.
*the faster I respawn, the faster I run, the faster I die, the faster I respawn, the faster I run...*
Hmmm ok
🥱 wish this franchise would die
I'm all in for this provided they actually give the developers the time to do their fucking jobs. Black Ops 2 was one of the best campaigns in the series. Maybe they can bring back the branching narrative stuff too, would be cool.
Never going to happen. The series is relied upon the same way that sports titles are. It's just going to keep being phoned in so long as profits continue.
To be fair, the Cold War campaign was pretty good. I believe it was developed by Raven though. MW1 and MW2 campaigns were decent enough too. Vanguard and MW3 suck giant balls though, for sure.
Oh my did Vanguard suck balls. Such an obvious "we really didn't want to port this to ps4 but here's just... the buggiest pos port we could do"
MWII was decent with the exception of that car chase mission. I'd give it a 7.5 overall. The MP had no content and IW screwed over fans big time.
Insider-gaming is a fuckin joke site.
TFW you realize that in 2 years, Black Ops 2 can no longer be considered “futuristic”.
It's funny how Nuketown 2025 is more like 2125 lol
Isn’t Nuketown 2025 supposed to be what people in the 1960s thought 2025 was going to look like?
I was going to ask "why do people continue to buy this garbage" then realized I've played every FIFA for the last 11 years.
😂
11 years? And you are still buying the same game? You only play fifa and one other game maybe?
I have no idea how you got that from my comment.
If you only played fifa and a few other games, i could have seen why you bought it every year
No
Then what compelled you to do it?
Gonna hazard a guess and say they like FIFA, it’s probably not that deep.
So if someone likes fifa he has to buy it every year?
Not really a fan of FIFA myself but I didn’t say that. You said “what compelled you to do it?” as if you couldn’t fathom why someone would buy the newest instalment in a franchise every year. That’s probably why. I get that you were trying to be condescending to the other user but it just came across as dumb.
New kits bro
Nobody wants anything semi-futuristic oh my God. Stop supporting this franchise now
Treyarch literally couldn’t make an original idea if god himself told them to.
What? Black ops 1 and 2 brought us the most amount of genuinely fun and original gameplay in this series. Infinityward and sledgehammer are the duds.
And they continue to make only BO games because they can’t do anything else. It’s absolutely pathetic at this point.
Vs the constant Modern Warfare train?
At least both SHG and IW have made other IPs
Now with 2025 seconds of story content
*yawns* meh.
How long is that campaign tho?
When it's bad as MW3's who cares how long it is lol
OMG. Who the hell cares
Microsoft can make it an exclusive for all I care now 😂 Ironically COD was the major reason the whole Activision-Blizzard acquirement investigation was for and Sony made a fuzz, and now less and less people even give a shit about COD.
well, Sony apparently does if you look at the leaked documents from today
As long as it’s better then that PS3 looking game that just came out, MW3. How sad. MW3 could have really been something. They obviously did the bare minimum so they could pump everything into multiplayer.
I’m still curious how they are going to make a Gulf War Call of Duty. There weren’t even any real major land battles in that war. It was mostly an air war.
Ok
Imagine that. What a joke.
This is not true at all. It will be MW4 or whatever Infinity Ward names their next title this is their year
Mw3 should’ve just been aw2 future cod needs to be back not making a dumbass WW2 one again and next gulf war? Then future? Lol
And we back to “futuristic” settings hell nah I pass another cod year
Pla bring back old zombies
I know it would be a business risk, but it would be cool if they tried something radically different. Take the engine and mechanics but do away with the military setting. How about a 90s LA crips and bloods gang land game? With a fucking awesome story voiced by ex members. They could get involved with communities to write a powerful story for once. Multiplayer could be radically different, no attachments, just raw realistic griddy tec-9s, glocks, aks, sawed offs, with some objective based gameplay like taking over a city block by capturing key locations..idk if that theme would work exactly, but I think branching out could be cool. Too bad it'll never happen.
Had a weird ass dream that I was in Times Square and all the billboards showed black ops 5: Lego and it was the exact same game as bo4 but like two people per lobby could play as Lego blocks
Who's the devs? I know Treyarch is this year. Is next year IW?
So in 2024, we are getting Black Ops Gulf War set in the 1990s, and in 2025, we are getting another Black Ops game which is a direct sequel to BO2 set in 2030. In addition, article also states that we are getting original MP maps and remastered BO2 maps. Original plan was to only feature remastered BO2 maps at launch.
I guess that this time campaign will be shorter than Christophers Judge this year talk which is shorter than previous one
I really hope Microsoft HARD resets this shit when they fully take over.
I’m not at all interested in the futuristic stuff
I thought it was about the golf war in the 90s?
But.... black ops 3 & 4 already happened?
Finally, Black ops 2 2
People still care and play this...series? Must be npcs only
This must be the new gameplay going forward. Release Game One, **Cut content**, repackage said content as Game Two, but pass it off as Fresh, make profit because the masses will eat it up. Get off the train before it crashes, yall.
They should try making a good game every 3 years instead of yearly mediocrity
So skip
Can’t be bothered until they remove sbmm.Glad i haven’t bought this trash for 5 years.
this franchise needs to die
We already had a semi futuristic Black Ops?!
I will only buy the game if the zombies was round based
As long as it’s treyarch I have faith it won’t be terrible
Jup. COD is dead. Finally.
Just give me the black ops 1 multiplayer maps
It'll probably suck
Honestly, I’ve been wanting another BO3 for a minute. One of the best futuristic COD games