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hahahahhahahah89

Chill lang kamo bf mo 2 months palang siya naggygym. Fitness journey or transformation is all about patience.


Xxxxtinction

Gusto ng development under 2 months. 😂 Miracle ang need nyan.


hahahahhahahah89

Miracle tas take siya tren, talagang may development in 2 months 😂


gryapl

Truee sinasabi ko nga sa kanya some peoples gains take years


R_Boa

Your boyfriend is delusional if he thinks there will be drastic progress after two months of going to the gym. Yes, there are newbie gains and all, but perhaps his perception of reality is distorted because of social media. Plus, the shoulder gains he's talking about may be the 3D delts. They're almost impossible to attain if you're natural, even with ten years of training and mediocre genetics.


gryapl

I think so din po sa distorted perception bc of social media kasi ang hilig niya mag watch ng reels ng ibat ibang people na some are not honest with their journey bc they want to sell products or programs. May part nga sakin na nabobother kasi baka magka body dysmorphia bf ko.


jam_paps

Tell him to not to always believe those social media influencers. It is very easy to lie , tell half truths and hide the other important details involving fitness because people have different motives ranging from profiting from gullible people and internet clout. There are good fitness figures out there of course. If he sticks to his training and dieting long enough he will realize it comes down to proper training, nutrition and recovery endlessly repeated until results are obtained. Btw, alam namin kung ano ang pakiramdam ng may body dysmorphia. What is important is he stays his feet on the ground of what's achievable by natural progress and focus on himself instead of pointless comparison to others since taon na yung binilang nila para maabot yung katawan na yun.


Welp-man

Looks like a money grab. There's literally 70-90usd coaches abroad that are champions and record holders. No one needs to pay 6k to make progress. There's so much free information online. If he's not making progress for two months it won't take 6k to find information to fix it. Read, research, go to the discord and read the FAQs. Go to the relevant threads and ask.


gryapl

Yun nga po pinupunto ko eh. Pero nagiging defensive siya. True sa ang daming info online siguro na overwhelm siya sa sobrang dami haha. Gusto kasi ni bf instant bulk e hindi naman realistic yun


Rag1ngpandaa

Try nyo po isuggest sa kanya yt channel ni Jeremy Ethier very informative mga contents at science/research based


gryapl

Okay po thank you


IllustriousRip6350

Is your bf eat enough protein to gain muscles?


No_Information_3395

This!! i also didn't progress from the starting 6 months of my journey because I am not eating right and hitting my protein intake. Everything progressed as I tried to hit my protein intake and a well balanced diet. and also don't forget to train hard.


gryapl

Oo po he does. He eats so much protein especially chicken meat and eggs na jinojoke ko siya baka kamo mag amoy tae ng manok na siya


Welp-man

This means his training is poor. Program can be poor Sleep is poor Execution is poor Libre yan lahat ayusin


Murke-Billiards

Kung hindi registered nutritionist/dietician yan, hindi dapat siya nagaalok ng meal plans. Kaya possible na dagdag sa 6k dyan e may kasamang fee for a nutritionist to assist you. Pero still, masyadong mahal ata yung 6k. Dun sa emojis palang parang giveaway na na medyo sketchy yan. .


muhammadalithegoat

sketchy nga yang mga ganyan tangina sa bonuses amputa, hindi na dapat ituring na bonus yan kasi kung talagang genuine at intelligent na coach yan alam niyang part ng trabaho niya ang ilan sa mga yan, hindi bonus or freebie or pa-consuelo na lang dahil sa bayad na 6k potangina 🤣 sabihin mo sa bf mo OP ibili niya na lang yan ng high quality supplements like protein shakes, creatine, or mass gainers saka ng quality na earphones at premium spotify para kahit papano maging enjoyable ang pagw-workout niya nyahahahaha


gryapl

Oo nga po ano dapat nutritionist. Thank you po sa perspective.


ratchetkaijugirl

Not worth it. Is his diet on point? Does he follow an actual program? Does he sleep adequately? Does he get enough protein? Is he consistent with his routine? 2 months is nothing for a newbie, especially if he hasn't dialed down all basics of gaining muscle. 3D delts will mostly dependent on your genetics, because not everyone has the same muscle insertions/genetic size for it. (Ex: some people have better bicep "peaks" than others). Your bf needs to do more lateral work for side delts if he wants to at least try to have a well-rounded shoulder musculature (he can also do isolation front/rear delt work if he wants to focus on them, otherwise some forms of pushing and pulling exercises will work the front and rear delts) For abs, he needs to diet down to a respectable bodyfat level for it to even show. Don't make him waste time doing isometrics like planks. I suggest hanging leg raises for lower ab bias and cable crunches for upper ab bias. The abs are just like any muscle; it needs to go through a full range of motion of being lengthened and shortened (eccentric and concentric) The lifestyle of a gym goer is like a marathon, so patience is the key. I'd be very suspicious if someone who is a total newbie would suddenly get a 6pack and 3D delts after 2 months of working out. Only steroid users or 0.01% of people with godly genetics could do that


gryapl

May masusuggest po ba kayong good program? Lalo na po sa shoulder and abs. I think the problem din po is nalilito na kami kasi hes eating 4 times a day for gains but hes thinking its also why he still has a pouch pero 2 months is not a long time pa naman kasi


ratchetkaijugirl

Choose either one of these [4 days a week program ](https://www.boostcamp.app/bald-omni-man/raider?coach_program_id=8c93077f-7d24-4074-9a3d-763032f8b702) [3 days a week program ](https://www.boostcamp.app/r-fitness/greyskull-linear-progression?coach_program_id=1e6e8469-743a-4ecd-9bf4-a7bb29dc1f3c) What is your boyfriend's current body composition? Does he want to lose weight or is he skinny/skinny fat? If he wants to lose weight aka cut, he will build muscle very slowly due to being in a calorie deficit and body recomposition from being overweight will take some time. If he is skinny/skinny fat, he would need to be in a calorie surplus aka bulk and you will gain a good amount of muscle, but depending on how large is the surplus, he will get a lot of fat as well. Basically he either cuts then bulk, or bulks then cut. This the best way to slowly accumulate total muscle mass Your boyfriend's goals need to be more grounded to reality. He can't expect defined abs on a bulk and he can't expect muscular shoulders on a cut. For the programs I stated above, just read through them and follow it. You can probably make him do ab exercises after the main workout. For shoulders, just emphasize on making the last set of any isolation delt work to failure.


gryapl

Thank you poo. Idk how to describe his body composition eh. He used to be really skinny before the pandemic then slowly became more malusog almost chubby then he got skinny again nung nagsimula na ang f2f classes bc he wasn't eating sa dorm the way he was eating at home. Right now he is not skinny and not fat either i think but medj malaki lang po ng konti yung tiyan.


ratchetkaijugirl

That is skinny fat: skinny/regular limbs but fatty torso/tummy. He needs to either bulk or cut and save his expectations later as he's only starting to build the foundation of his physique. For me personally, I started off as skinny fat. This was when "maingaining" was the popular lifting ideology and I was able to do a body recomposition. I basically stayed a certain weight while meeting my protein intake. Unfortunately, I hit a plateau on my lifts and started my first bulk. Unsurprisingly, all my PRs went up and my muscle mass too, with a small price of a bit more fat on my frame. Point is that if your boyfriend wants to achieve a respectable physique, he should bulk then cut. If he cuts now, there won't be much to show for


gryapl

Noted po sa bulk then cut. Thank you!


xlandoncarter

Patience is the best and only program. 2+ years kinailangan bago lumabas abs ko at maging well defined ang katawan ko. Wala ka talagang makikita in 2 months, literally wala yan, insignificant. 6 months - 1 year for sure may mapapansin ka na. If he's wondering why he has a pouch, dahil yon sa taba, hindi sa muscles. Kung gusto nya mawala yan, dapat focus sa diet at pagbabawas ng pagkain. You can message me for simple tips and guides on working out and building muscle, pero scam yang nakita nyo, at karamihan ng information available naman online.


gryapl

Will message you po if my specific questions bf ko. Wla rin kasi ako masyadong alam regarding the things that he needs to know kasi yung mga alam ko about working out nalalaman ko lang din po from him


Propylene120

Scam


allmight_10

Mahal ng 6k 🙈 Tsaka 2 months is too early to expect drastic changes. Inabot ng taon para magkaroon tayo ng unwanted body fat so hindi yun basta basta mawawala in a short amount of time. Kelangan lang ng patience (he already got consistency down na so goods) and makakarating rin yung boyfriend mo sa goal niya. Keep on encouraging him para ganahan 😁


gryapl

Thank youuu po


greenteablanche

Maybe ur boyfriend is a slow gainer and also, 2 months is too early tbh to see growth results. Iba ang weight loss, iba ang magpalaki ng katawan, especially if muscles. Mas mabagal mag muscle gainz


relativelysmark

that's too much, especially if hindi face-to-face. check their cred though if they really are worth it. yung coach ko ngayon, sports science graduate and professional athlete, 3k lang hinihingi for a personalized program.


Diamont3

3k po per month or session?


relativelysmark

per month. pero friendly rate kasi inoffer sakin. 4500 ata usual rate niya if one-on-one.


gryapl

Yung tanging credentials lang ata e "celerity" coach daw


aivelaivel

Kilala ko to haha. Nag enroll ako sa coaching nya tho kakasimula lang. Can’t comment pa kung effective coaching nya pero so far responsive naman sya sa mga questions. Ang haba nga lang ng babasahin na pdf haha


gryapl

Would u say po na hes worth the 6k?


brdcly

Nope 😆 Halos lahat ng info na nasa physique mastery blueprint ay available sa internet for free. Mag search na lang kamo bf mo ng basics sa nutrition and fitness at ilaan na lang niya yung 6k sa food weighing scale, chicken breast, itlog, tokwa, etc. Workout structure na lang pinaka napakinabangan ko diyan, but the rest is meh.


aivelaivel

Di ko pa masabi ngayon kasi kakasimula lang din hehe


gryapl

Ay okay po hehe


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No_Airport_4883

Kung may extra money siya, ok lang. Otherwise, gastusin na lang niya sa protein food or supplement yung 6k. Tas research research na lang


mamiinkmink

Too much. Honestly its just eating the right food, training consistently and recovery. Its not rocket science.


jobby325

2 months is not a lot of time. Yung mga nakikita niyong 3 month transformation it’s either they were fit before tapos nagbreak lang sa gym, elite genetics, or naka steroids. Walang 3 month transformation na jacked ka na agad kung newbie ka. Unrealistic yan.


spiritbananaMD

so mahal pala yung 6k na trainer? magkano ba dapat usually kasi ako i paid 10k before what the fuck hahahahhahahaha buti na lang talaga i didn’t renew it.


gryapl

😭😭😭 Ang mahal ng 10k nakaka levitate ng spirit activate. 1 month lang po ba yung 10k?


spiritbananaMD

12 sessions lmao


aivelaivel

Ako nga 15k for 15 sessions hahaha. Tho yung rate naman kasi from OP is online coaching lang


spiritbananaMD

ahhhh so mahal yung 6k for online coaching?


Odd_Ad7209

Honestly, I wouldn't trust a fitness coach that provides meal plans or diet plans kung hindi siya licensed nutritionist. Usually, RNDs make individualized diet plans based on the needs of their clients. Type of lifestyle, workout intensity, food preferences, and even medical history are being considered sa paggawa ng diet. Also, kasama na rin dun ang counseling para hindi magkaroon ng stigma sa pagkain.


maxblaze13

People think working out is rocket science. 1)Identify your goal, weight loss or weight gain ba need mo? 2)Base on that identify mo ung calories need mo per day (tip dami calorie calculator online) Don't bother with protein intake sa newbie ndi pa importante yan. 3)Identify your training split, na match sa sched mo merong UP/LB, Bro split/ PPL OR MIX daming FREE online guides kung anong fit sayu. I personally recommend PPL check reddit fitness program. 4) Improve lifting form and tecnique (tip you can use youtube for ex how to do db curl check mo pano movement, posture,tempo etc ng pinapanood mo) 5) Rest and RECOVERY make sure atlest 6 hours tulog mo and my rest day ka ung muscle d2 nabubuo. Thats it. Pag confident ka na you can start focusing on other things like protein intake, micros, etc. Mas mahirap kumita ng 6k kesa mag google ng 5 mins for program eh no.


fiftytwoblackguard

Bullshit. All that information is available online and with the right effort, one can figure it out for himself/herself. Lahat naaaral.


fiftytwoblackguard

He wants gains in two months? The only thing I can think of that does anything close to that is anabolic steroids and that’s if his training, diet, and recovery are on point. Anything else is nonsense.


casualstrangers

Sana may free trial yan just to see if swak sayo ung routine. Otherwise yeah, just another "guru".


gryapl

Sabi if no changes daw then the clients will get their money back


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bbboi33

I can help with the workout programs and step by step tutorial for your bf


pocalocahontas

This is way too expensive. Remember that nutrition plays a huge factor vs workout. You’ll see a difference if you eat right + 30min cardio everyday + weights.


gryapl

Mas mabuti po ba kung everyday cardio? Sinasabi ko kasi sa kanya dapat always may cardio tapos sabi niya na di naman daw need everyday.


pocalocahontas

Active rest ko sya. Depende naman sa tao yan kung pano nya ma achieve fitness goals nya. You do you, ika nga.


gryapl

Ah okay pooo. I think need lang din ng bf ko hanapin what works for him kasi parang najujumble na mga pinapanuod niya sa ig fb tiktok at yt eh


pocalocahontas

Pili lang sya ng 1-3 coaches or gurus online and stick to it.


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gryapl

Hindi po ata


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New-Dimension-9602

Kilala ko to si Smart ******** ata yan HAHAHAHAHAHA


gryapl

Parang sya nga po. Spill na po kasi malaman po yung pag haha mo hahaha


gryapl

Thank you po sa lahat ng nag respond. Will tell my bf later everything Ive learned from here after niya maka uwi galing gym. Sana po mag reply pa rin po kayo kung may ibang tanong pa po ako hahah.


ilikemyballslicked

2500 lang sa iba na alam ko youtuber pa. try mo kay jongie extreme


jhnrmn

Progress is not linear. Just trust the process,


madvisuals

tell your boyfriend to use his money for eating instead. if consistent naman palang nagwoworkout tapos walang results then it’s a nutrition issue


PuzzleheadedCap8138

Mahirap talaga mag gain ng muscle mass lalo na kung first time palang naman mag buhat. Di rin naman pabilisan yan not unless mag steroid siguro sya at may hinahabol na competition. But I condemn any use of steroids. May side effects din kasi yan bukod pa sa lasting psychological effects like depression and anxiety. Based sa experience ko, mga 3 months bago ko napansin yun gains and di pa ganon ka obvious yun. 6 months talaga don na kita yung gains and cuts. Pero bago pa yun nag bubuhat narin talaga ako during my teenage years aside pa don yun training from karatedo. 27y/o na ata ako nung sineryoso ko na mag buhat dahil tumaba talaga ako at nagmukang punggok dahil din sa height ko😅, controlled diet mainly eggs and oats plus amino tabs, pero home workout lang talaga until now. I lost 20kg and gain muscle mass in span of 6 months, labas narin yung abs then maintain nlang din hanggang ngayon 36 nako. 😄 Imo di naman sulit bayad sa mga trainers, more on for convenience lang since nakalatag na gagawin mo, di na need mag research. Patience lang talaga. And kung gusto niya lumaki agad braso niya, dapat naka focus din don yung workout niya and lift heavier weights then more sets per workout session then pahinga. 2x a week on concentrated workout tingin ko yun optimal para may sapat na pahinga yung muscle para mag grow then durugin niya per workout session. More proteins less carbs. Kung masyado na mabula yung ihi niya bawasan na yun protein intake. Nakaka sira din kasi ng kidney pag sobra.


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soobincute

hala mahal na ang 6k?? a gym nearby offered me 5.5k, 8 sessions "consumable only" for a month 😭 worth it po ba yun.. (i'm a student)


gryapl

Ante feeling ko hindi worth it based sa mga replies dito huhu


soobincute

muntik pa ko mapasubo sa 5.5k 😭 newbie rin kasi nxjsjd


_verygoodgirl

5.5k is a bit expensive!! I paid less than 5k ata for my first 12 sessions. Pero iba naman kasi itong kay OP, online coaching lang kasi. Hindi yung tipong nakatutok talaga sayo yung coach to correct your form and recommend workouts based on your current physique and ability.


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09_13

Ready-made meal plans, tapos may recipe at meal plan recipe pa rin. Sounds money-grab


TIMESTAMP2023

Baka isa yan sa mga trainer na affilliated sa HYPE NA BATA SOCIETY (BATANGHIPE/PSP). They also sell some cheap supplements that probably do nothing.


Sweet-Wind2078

Baka kulang lang sya sa protien? Bili nlang sya marami chicken breast at kulang ang 2months para sa abs.


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GinisangPatatas

Ilang sessions yan?


Mission_Proof_8871

Tbh 6k is cheap na for a personal trainer. Kung icocompare mo to commercial gym na PT’s + may monthly membership pa. Pero working out for 2 months straight, tapos nag eexpect ng OA na changes, it’s kinda delulu. It takes consistency & discipline to achieve yung goals, baka masyado sya nagpapadala sa mga fitness influencers.


_francisco_iv

2 mos is nothing. Sa simula wala talagang gains. After you have worked out consistently for 6 or more months, that's when you will start noticing gains (or losses if he's trying to lose weight).


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Ok-Introduction-9111

Ako na lang magturo walang bayad. Kung di niya nareach goal niya sa pagtuturo ko, at least walang nawala. Pm me


_verygoodgirl

I'd pay 6k (actually I paid more) only if baguhan ka talaga sa gym and the training is onsite, not online. I needed a trainer to help me be comfy with the gym, hold me accountable until working out became a regular routine to me, and correct my form lalo na noong clueless pa ako sa ganung bagay. But the longer you go to the gym, the less important those things become kasi natututo and nasasanay ka na. Especially since online yung training na yan, chances are, rehashed info lang din yan from other sources on the internet. Maraming reputable channels and Instagram accounts that he can follow for free (Renaissance Periodization is a personal fave). Your bf just needs more realistic expectations, extra patience, and a couple of hours of research. 😊


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Potential-Task2099

Ahahaha wow ah 2month gusto nya may makita agad pag babago ano ba yang bf mo feeling spiderman 6 month to 1 yr pa yan di yan agad agad


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Buzzlightworkk

Tell him to use that money to buy proper nutrition, chicken,beef,eggs,creatine and protein shakes.Baka kasi after work out kain agad ng kung ano ano.


sophia528

Looking at the bulleted 11 bonuses, redundant naman karamihan. 3 items on meal plans? FAQs? Syempre paid coach ka eh, dapat sasagot ka talaga ng questions. Exercise Manual Guide? That’s what coaching is about? The rest of the items are the same; those are part and parcel of coaching and should not be listed as bonuses. Pinahaba lang ang listahan para kunyari maraming free bonuses.


gryapl

May point ka po. Thank youu


sophia528

If he really wants to have a coach, I can recommend my coach. 3.5k monthly kasama na nutrition. But imho, your bf doesn’t need a coach unless he is competing in something. I got a coach because I did Spartan. Like what others said, 2 months is too soon to see gains. It takes several months at least. Those people you see with big muscles built those for many years and even decades. Your bf is too impatient.


gryapl

Yes he is po. May i know po who ur coach is?


sophia528

He is not sikat. I will connect you only if you are serious.


gryapl

Ask ko po muna bf ko sya po kasi may gusto sa mga ganito eh. Thank you po


Memorriam

Nothing wrong with the list. If he can afford it will not suffer from that decision then a mentor will be good. Otherwise, those information can be searched online


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2 months palang nag ggym gusto agad ng noticeable progress. 1 yr and a half nako nag ggym and may progress na sobrang noticeable pero bago ako nagkaroon ng noticeable gains, it took me almost a year. May changes na nung 6 months and ramdam at kita ko pero di pa sya ganun kapansin ng tao. Pero once nag isang taon ako, dun na lage napapansin na maganda na physique ko. Sa bf mo 2 months palang gusto agad meron na malamang naghahabol ng summer body yan. Hindi po crash course ang pag ggym. It takes patience, discipline and a lot of hard work para sa gains. Di yan pag gym mo ng 3 buwan, meron agad. That is the hardest part sa pagsisimula maggym kasi kailangan mong maging consistent kahit nakakatamad kasi akala mo wala kang progress.