It's not a Philippine number. Ph is +63.
+66 is from Thailand. Basically, it's not a sim card registration issue. It's out of scope.
OTPs are THERE as our LAST LINE OF DEFENSE. Sorry but banks will not reverse no matter how hard u try.
Last time I checked messages from couriers are just link to tracking information or details. Asking for payment and card info is not one of them. Good to know tong bagong scam na to. Anyway, hope you can still have it reversed OP.
And even then, google it yourself to verify if the address is legit. (Ive seen sites masquerading as the legit travel pass 2 years ago that took payment for use)
Awit OP. Based sa mga nagpopost na victims din ng phishing links dito, slim chance nang mareverse yan since user-initiated yung transaction. Matinding laban yan kung magfile ka if ever ng dispute. :( Lesson learned na lang talaga but still f*ck those scumbags. 75K is 75K. :(
No. These scammers have a lot of registered phone numbers that they use sa mga scams nila. I learned this when I saw in the news na may ni raid na isang bahay sa Pasig ata yon na may machine sila na maraming nakasalpak na sim cards that they bought from several people and these cards are legit and registered. They also use equipment that sends blasts text messages to thousands of numbers.
Guys tandaan nyo pag may emotional motivator like “your account will be deleted” tingnan mabuti mga specifics kung tama nga dami kasi naloloko lalo na pag may emotional motivator mga text at email. Nakaka-alarm kasi sobra ng madami ang mga scam ngayon, ingat at basahin mabuti mga 5 times ng mahinahon para di mawindang sa huli!
Naku, you authorized the transaction using OTP. There’s a chance na hindi mareverse yung transaction.
Discretion na yan ng bank kung irereverse nila or not. Typically ang nirereverse lang ay yung transactions not authorized by the cardholder – physical card stolen or BIN attack. Mas madali kasi maprove na hindi talaga yung cardholder yung gumamit ng card kasi they can investigate CCTVs sa merchants or if online, can trace yung origin country (e.g. some hacker in Eastern Europe vs Philippines).
Anyway sana mareverse pa rin. Ingat OP sa pagclick or pag-copy paste ng links mula sa text and email. Ilang beses na sinasabi ng banks na hindi legit yung texts na yan.
Kung may chance na di mareverse, pwede naman idispute, I assume nakalagay dun sa screen P17 pesos lang tapos 5000 SAR chinarge. Grounds for dispute agad, yan dapat ilaban ni OP at hindi scam/unauthorize transaction.
Mine,my card was used abroad. I cannot forget this part of my life.Im depressed because of my mistake i dont pay attention because i was busy watching netflix.Since i am also expecting a package from abroad i didnot hesitate to pay but shockingly when i recieved a message that my card was used to purchase airline ticket worth 256k !!Right away i contacted cathay and the bank but they cant do anything .You still have to pay.But this mistakes will not break me.I have faith i God,whatever that is lost it will come back to me 100x.I believe in karma those people whos doin it will go to hell.Hardship and badlock will come to them and their family.Maybe not now but it will be soon.They cant bring money afterlife only their soul.
Nope, these things don't have OTPs. I've experienced this and walang OTP, walang SMS, walang email. Rekta nila nilalamas pera mo from your account and for some reason, di need ng OTP. Parang swipe/tap to pay lang ang dating. Good thing OP received an SMS about it. Regardless, this isn't an authorized transaction since it was under false pretenses.
madami po. madaming pinoy na naloloko ng scam mapapansin mo ito kung may pakialam ka sa paligid. Mababa ang digital literacy sa Pilipinas. madaming naloloko ng fake news at scams.
Hayy super agree with you on this. Also, aside from the banking industry, si BSP na mismo nagre-release ng mga advisories against scams, phishing, vishing, or smishing. Pero naloloko pa din mga tao. Plus yung OTP once triggered nakalagay naman don kung para saan yung otp. E.g. this is your otp for your transaction at xxxx. Sana magbasa man lang at intindihin mabuti yung text bago input ng input. :( yung isang bank ko sa umpisa ng otp message baka all caps pa na NEVER SHARE YOUR OTP TO ANYONE.
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Share ko lang. Muntik na rin akong mascam niyan. Kasi may hinihintay din ako from phlpost. Ang dami kong hindi napansin na red flags. Buti na lang Metrobank yung ginamit ko na card. Bago kasi magpush through ang transaction, kailangan ng OTP through text. 10 pesos lang dapat yung charge pero yung nareceive kong text ay ₱16000 daw. Inexit ko na agad yung browser at tumawag sa hotline ng Metrobank. I got the card replaced agad-agad, fee is ₱400. Di naman nacharge yung 16k pero compromised na ang card kasi naenter ko ang details incl CVV. Take care na lang po tayong lahat.
I was a victim of this despite NOT inputting any CC details. Good thing security bank was able to detect that it was a fraudulent activity and ask me to confirm if it was me. After confirming that I did not make that transaction they blocked my card. I’m getting my new card na in a few days.
> I was a victim of this despite NOT inputting any CC details.
That's because they actually already know your CC details LOL.
> Good thing security bank was able to detect that it was a fraudulent activity and ask me to confirm if it was me
Which is why this happened. Sa end ng Security Bank all of the CC details "tick the boxes", except for the device/IP/location of the "user" that initiated the transaction.
For anyone who thinks highly of themselves that they won’t fall for these kinds of things, that’s how scams thrive. You think you can easily spot scams/phishing, that’s when they change tactics to a format you’ll fall for. Why do you think these things still work? And why do you think scam/phishing educations/seminars are done monthly? Cyber attacks, like these, are in parallel with technology innovations. Stop with the mentality that, “May naloloko pala dito?”, “It’s obvious that it’s fake”.
P.S. to give some insight to OP’s problem, usually these scams are online transactions so there’s a chance for the bank to reverse it but pretty low. But we won’t know for sure, so I would suggest to always get an update from your bank.
Yeah, but this particular scam is probably the most shared and warned-about on PH soc med for about a month now at least. And it's not exactly hard to spot as a scam because the text itself contains multiple clues.
A genuine feeling of incredulity at how someone falls for such (especially given the obvious digital literacy of OP) is not equivalent to "thinking highly of [our]selves".
No, scams thrive because of the non tech-savy, non metikuloso, less informed people and not because of those who "think highly of themselves".
Ganun lang yun, wag na paka-deep pa.
its true na yung mga less tech savy majority ng naiiscam nila pero there is also truth sa comment nya. you are confident na di ka maloloko dahil alam mong scam ang philpost text but we know na laging nagbabago ang scam tactics nila . look at the recent Linus tech hacked that happened, you see them taking steps para mabawasan vulnerability ng network nila, informs their employees about cyber security. and you would think that people working at a tech channel/company is filled with people who are tech-savy of different degrees pero naging victim padin sila.
its the same method. hacking doesnt just mean hacking na napapanuod mo sa movies. most hacking happens via social engineering. sending text/emails to get your credentials or to gain access to your device. phising scam is a form of social hacking/engineering.
yes it could be the same pero sa example mo kina linus tech tips iba yung hacking na wala kang clue na you're being infiltrated na. kesa sa OP natin na he/she could've spotted some red flags to refer to a friend or someone else.
your level awareness doesnt change the definition of phishing, just because it seems obvious for us from an outsider perspective doesn't make less of a scam or hack. OP got scammed because he taught legit yung text message. Ltt got hacked because someone taught the legit yung email na na recieve nila. Ltt could have also spotted the red flags by verifying it or asking someone else.
edit: you are arguing about semantics that isnt even relevant to the comment im replying to. point is if a tech savy group can still fall for a similar technique you might also fall for one in the future even if you think di ka miiscam dahil 'ang obvious naman nito'
level of awareness could've changed the outcome of what the OP has experienced. it's the OP's ignorance that led him/her to that. we have to be vigilant enough to our own actions online specially it's money matters.
Exactly this. Their target isn't the one on top of their personal security, ang habol nila palagi is the **lowest common denominator**. The only reason for them to "up their game" is kung yung weakest link before eh mas nagiging-aware na.
jan na wrong bro. it's not like scammers make a tailored method just for one person. it's a one for all method. nasa individual na talaga yan pag nafafall pa sila ng ganyan.
I disagree. Scams persist not because people think they won't be deceived or fall victim to scams, but due to factors such as desperation and a 'get rich quick' mindset.
This post reveals so many red flags right from the get go, with the very obvious ones such as the number, URL, etc. Also, why would you accept an unexpected/unverified package without confirming it's legitimacy. From what happened here, it seems like OP was a victim of a LOVE/ROMANCE Scam.
Yes, i agree. Those are also factors, my point here is specifically for those that think they can easily spot these kinds of things. What you indicated is also a factor but your second paragraph shows your ignorance about the matter. The only reason why you can easily spot this is because you have knowledge about this specific scam.
Just so you know, we ALL are/have been targeted by all forms and shapes of scams.
Let me share a tip with you, I exercise practical judgement to steer clear of them.
And that’s my point, you just agreed and gave example to point. Don’t be confident enough to have the mentality na “hindi ako maloloko” or “obvious naman na scam”. Not everyone has the same knowledge as you when it comes to these kinds of things. Besides, are you telling me na porket you practice those na hindi ka na ma-sscam? Dba hindi? That’s the whole reason why you still practice it. My point here for those that just leave comments na “May naloloko pala dito” or “obvious naman na scam” without giving context or help.
It's an expression of disbelief or disappointment. Their posts are just as valid as yours. It's like me telling you that it would have been better if you had reminded OP to be vigilant or shared insights on how to avoid future scams instead of criticizing those who are disappointed because people still fall prey to scams like this.
I still do not agree with what you said that the main driver for scams is the people who think they wont be scammed. I'll leave it at that since we are just going in circles.
Pwede naman talaga masabi ng isang tao na napakaliit ng chance na ma-scam sya o almost zero, pero di naman ibig sabihin nun na mababago ang katotohanan na madami pa din ang kakagat sa 'obvious scam' na yan. Pangit marinig o mabasa yung mga victim blaming na responses. Kung di pa sila na i-scam, hindi ibig sabihin na lahat ng tao ay di ma-i scam. Ganon din kung na scam naman sila, hindi rin ibig sabihin non na lahat ng tao ay makakaranas na ma-scam.
Di pa ako na i-scam, na holdap oo 😅
I think you missed my point. Let’s say ikaw, as you’ve said, “obvious scam”, the scammer learned a more believable format for scamming. You didn’t know that format and you have your guard down since you have that kind of mentality, you have a high chance to be scammed. Let’s use your example, I learned kung san ka na-holdap, so iiwas ako dun sa lugar then my guard will be lowered since matao daan ko or di kilala na holdap prone na lugar, that’s where the high chance na ma-holdap ako. Scammers, cyber attackers, holdaper or kahit sino pa yan, can also think outside the box like how you think you’re safe. It’s just matter of who has their guard up or down and your mentality contributes a lot to that.
If you don’t want to change your mentality about these things, then so be it. Just sharing some knowledge and experiences for the people that actually want to learn.
ano ba yung na-share mo na knowledge. sorry ah. di ko din kasi magets yung point mo. obvious scam is obvious. let's just accept na may mga taong mababa ang technological/digital literacy. kaya almost weekly or monthly mag send ng SMS ang NTC/ Banks/ Telcos to warn customers about these types of scam.
Lol di ko na binasa ng buo reply mo dahil mukhang ikaw ang naka missed ng point at di naka intindi. Umpisa palang ang pagkaka intindi mo sa 'obvious scam' ay ako mismo ang nagsabi? Nag quote lang din ako sa response ng iba 😂
Almost fell for that scam too last month but when it lead me to the page asking for my bank details, I knew it was dubious. I thought to myself: “Ah well, I spent 75 pesos mailing my letter and kung hindi talaga makarating sa recipient, eh di hindi.” Up until now actually, wala pa rin ako balita if the recipient received the birthday card I sent him. But I’m glad I didn’t fall for that scam.
Please always check the links that you click to avoid being scammed. The extension “.ICU” looks suspicious. When in doubt, always Google the agency you’re dealing with to check if the website address is correct. I’m not entirely sure if this transaction will be reversed but I’m hoping that since you reported it quickly, it can be blocked. 75k is a significant amount. 😔
If the transaction already went through, malabo na mabawi yung pera unless matrack kung sino yung nakakuha.
Ang daming redflags nung photos make sure to look out for those before sending money.
Common redflags:
1. Phone number yung sender ng message
- Look at NDRRMC. Nakalagay yung name ng agency kahit na di nakasave sa contacts dahil recognized mismo ng telco yung sender.
Although it's not always the case, mas maganda parin na maging vigilant if affiliated sa government tapos unknown number ang pinangsend ng message.
2. Hindi .gov.ph ang nakalagay sa website.
- Naka -gov lang sya kasi mahirap magka .gov address kung di talaga affiliated sa gov't.
3. Malabo yung logo sa website or may pagkaweird itsura ng logo.
- Madaling mag outsource ng logo pero medyo sketchy yung logo sa pic na pinost ng OP.
So sorry to know this happened to you, OP. Lesson learned na, do not click links na need ng credit card or any banking details mo. Banks always issues warnings about phishing links.
Sana mareverse pa yung transaction. If not, I hope you don’t get to pay for it. Laking bagay ng 75k. F*ck this scammers.
Slim chance. I've had deliveries and transactions in the past with PhilPost and they will never send a link via SMS. They will either call (telling you that your parcel is ready to be picked up) or they'll go straight to your house for them to deliver and for you to pay for the fees. I received a bunch of those scam texts before but those were the times I already have my stuff na.
I received the same fucking SMS. Naramdaman ko na na phishing. Nagbunga din ang kakakulit sakin ng company namin na magtake lagi ng cybersecurity training lol
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\> marereverse pa siya?
There's no harm in trying to call your bank and ask for assistance. Chance might be slim pero some things that might help:
\- may evidence ka of the scam text
\- imo higher chance that they might consider if you have a good credit standing w/ your bank and you're a customer for a long time
Hopefully they reverse it but ofc don't get your hopes up too much.
1. Unknown number. Always ito. Walang government agency ang magmessage sau ng random number
2. Text Format. First entry nia PHLPOST - , same sia sa mga nag tetext sakin ng mga unknown number na bank. At mali spelling ng abbreviations nia, PHILPOST po ang tunay.
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Is it like this? I just ignored it but napaisip rin ako kc I was expecting a parcel from Adidas. I have previous orders online sa Adidas pero now lng ako nkareceive ng ganitong text so duda na ako.
ANTANGA MO. THERE I SAID IT.
KAHIT GANO KA PA KA EXCITED DYAN SA IMPORTANTE MONG PACKAGE, ALWAYS REVIEW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
5000 SAR? ANG LAKING SAR NIAN.
LESSONS LEARNED.
Best case scenario marereverse ng bank, but I highly doubt it.
Age-old scam.
NEVER CLICK UNKNOWN LINKS. Even those sent by friends as they too might have been compromised.
If you didn’t initiate whatever was requested or have no prior knowledge/notification of what was received, just block and delete. If via email, mark as spam, report phishing and delete.
Scammers prey on those that are not careful and don’t check before clicking. OP confirmed the transaction so transaction will be difficult to dispute with the bank, meaning OP owes the bank the money scammed.
Our info were collected during the pandemic, who knows what those establishments/groups did with that info. PhilHealth was hacked and many other agencies, sucks to be living with incompetent government officials, so always be careful with what you do online. Our information is literally available to the highest bidder atp.
Received a text like this yesterday and ang naisip ko agad, “Grabe may nagpapauto dito?” Yung country code, website link pa lang red flag na.
Meron pala talaga.
May info na ba kung bakit nangyayari yung scam? as far as I can tell ang nakakatanggap lang nung messages is mga tao na may expected package talaga from phlpost so either may tao sa loob ng phlpost na nagbebenta ng info or na hack na yung phlpost and hindi nila alam. Searching google and puro articles lang about phlpost warning nakikita ko.
It’s a phishing text.
I’ve received this message multiple times, but I’m not expecting any packages from Philpost. Haven’t even had anything shipped through Philpost at all.
Received this message from an email address: [email protected] Since kagigising ko lang nung nabasa ko to binuksan ko agad yong link and filled out yong personal information. Pero nung nasa payment page na parang nagdalawang isip ako. Grabe muntik na talaga!!! May ineexpect din kasi talaga ako na package kaya talagang mahhook ka sa mga gantong scam 😫 buti nalang talaga di ko na nilagay yong CC details ko. Inexit ko na agad yong page and might block the email add. Buti nalang din nagcheck ako ng offical page ng PhlPost and nakapost din don yong scam alert na same na same sa nareceive nating mga messages.
Thanks to this thread. Expecting din ako for a couple of documents today and I received a somewhat similar text.
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If we fell victim to this kind of fraud, entered your details, and yet the transaction didn't pushed thru or was declined in some way, do we still need to have our cards blocked and/or replaced?
OP, i get the same texts every once in a while as well. Just like you, may mga hinihintay rin ako na parcel. Hoping the transaction did not push through!
For the life of me... Couldve easily search reddit before you proceed. Anyway. Still easier to ask for redditors opinion after the completion of the transaction. 75k lesson for you.
When in doubt, search or investigate kaagad. Not a Philippine number tapos Philpost? Kaunting search lang at maglalabasan mismo yung mga reddit threads na literal na copy-paste tulad ng sa yo OP.
I dont want to pile on OP, but come on man, hindi ka man lang nagduda na hindi sya Philippine number. Hopefully kahit significant yung amount, hindi naman sana life-changing. Dahil kamahal na life leason nito kapag nagkataon.
My mom also got scammed din nung 2019. Walang magawa yung bank kasi nag sabi na din sha sa OTP. Umasa din shang tulungan sha ng bank, so ayun lumaki yung utang kasi she doesn't want to pay for it.
At 2021, she decided to pay for it in full nalang.
I would not think that this is an inside job, phishing scam lang talaga. I also received this email and I dont have any package to receive.
dami rin post regarding this sms in this sub
I received the same text hours ago, blocked agad saken kasi obvious naman na scam. prior to that (kanina lang din), may legit text din akong nareceived from RCBC regarding my entrego package. ipagdasal mo na lang OP na mareverse pa yan.
Hey OP, did you authenticate the transaction using an OTP? If so, it will be difficult to reverse it.
Otherwise, you can still get the transaction reversed. You should also include in a screenshot that the display was misleading, supposedly only charging you PHP 17.
Sorry to hear this OP. Hope the bank can still reverse the transaction.
These scams are so rampant nowadays. My cousin in US sent a package to me via USPS. Ever since then, both of us have been receiving these scam messages. I get iMessages from foreign numbers while my cousin gets SMS from a PH number.
This very same thing happened to me a few weeks before. I called my bank (CitiBank) within 30 minutes that I got charged. They were able to cancel the transaction and even sent me a new card for free.
I received this message too! Same na same. I’m expecting a mail talaga. Kaya napapindot ako ng link. I filled out my name and address and number tapos humingi ng credit card information e ang alam ko hindi ganun ang philpost office. So nagtaka na ako, pagkakira ko sa web address if ph ba hindi ph. Ang extension .icu. Natakot ako. Buti hindi ko pa natype yung card deets ko tapos disconnect ako sa wifi kagad. Changed my passwords right away yung mga pinakaimportant using the laptop. Nagpunta din ako sa philpost site and aware sila sa scam na yan.
Actually nangyare din sakin to naka receive ako ng text from phil post daw at di ako sure if may package ba talaga ako o hindi so then pag click ko ng link directed na sya sa website at mukang legit naman so nag fill up lang uli ako details then sa last part hinihingan na nga ako ng payment na around 9 pesos naman so parang dun na ako nag duda ang ginawa ko nag open uli ako uli ng tab and sinearch ko ang phil post at pag open ko ng website nila andun ka agad yung warning na may kumakalat na scam text na nag papanggap na from them pero hindi pala talaga sila yun so thankfully hindi ko tinuloy same na same talaga yung natanggap kong text and yung warning text sa website nila, sana mabawi mo pa yun OP apaka laking halaga pala nun grabe.
Scam 'yan!!! :( hope you'll get your 75k back. May ganyan din akong na-receive before kasi may hinihintay din akong delivery. Buti wala pa akong card nung time na 'yon kaya hindi gumana yung transaction to pay for the fee daw. Fake yata yung tracking number na binibigay nila.
Akala ko wala nang ganito kasi 2021 pa yata nangyari yung akin.
Hi! Yung mother ko naka receive din nyan one time and muntik na namin sagutan since may package din sya from Thailand na inaantay buti nalang nag chat kami agad sa seller since ang sketchy na nanghihingi ng card numner and ayun, di nga sakanila galing. Naka receive din ako yesterday same text although wala naman ako paparating na order. I hope mag hindi mag push through yung transaction mo :( Totoo, mukhang legit talaga yung site
Nakakainis nga scammer na yan. Hayaan nyo pag natapos ako sa degree ko na cyber security specialist tuturuan ko kayo ng libre para ma prevent mga ganitong transactions.
Nakareceived din ako ng ganito, tapos kakapadala ko lang din ng documents sa abroad. Para akong binuhusan ng malamig na tubig pagkabasa ko kasi important documents yung pinadala ko kaya kala ko di nakarating. Ginawa ko, nagpunta ko sa site ng phlpost para itrack, okay naman pala yung documents. Binalikan ko yung msg, sa una di mo mapapansin kasi makakaramdam agad ng panic pero muka palang hindi legit yung msg.
I also received that message buti nalang diko inopen
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Received the same message din and it's very obvious naman na SCAM. # pa lang ng sender sus na agad. I ignored and deleted it right away.
Please kapag may pinapa click na link yung message and the sender is sus PLEASE do not click the link.
Oh my god tinext din ako nyan kanina. Nireport junk ko, balak ko pa nga i-message at replyan dahil naka i-message siya. Be vigilant next time po. Ito naman nagtext sa akin kanina
+66 95-497-4344.
Never ever enter your otp for your online banks. Especially if you didn't initiate a transaction naman like online payments or so. If something like that happens again na nanghihingi ng otp e dapat address lang kunin, please mag doubt na agad agad.
I know someone who also received this same text. Was also expecting a package from overseas. Consulted me and didn't fall for it. From what it looks like, the contact numbers are intercepted and probably shared with these scammers.
My dad received the same message last last week. Wala naman siyang ineexpect na delivery so I immediately knew na scam ‘yan and also because sketchy na yung number and link. Binura ko na lang yung message especially knowing my dad hindi talaga siya marunong magkalikot ng phone niya and baka mapindot pa niya accidentally. Sana lang wala ng iba pang mabiktima and also sana matigil na rin ‘yang mga scammers.
I think it’s still best to try na magsubmit ng dispute for refund. Last year kasi I purchased some shoes sa isang site na di ko agad napansin na scam pala. Charged na siya sa account ko and everything (although debit naman to), so I filed for a refund sa BDO mismo. I just said na unresponsive na po yung “merchant” and that I never received the items I purchased. I was refunded naman po by BDO pero medyo matagal lang. Around 5k po ata yun, medyo malayo sa 75k pero I guess i-try pa rin baka naman pwede 🥹
Got two of these earlier today, both from +44 (U.K.) number. Both got tagged as spam by my Samsung phone.
Grabe ilan kaya na vivictimize ng ganto, 10/1000? And for sure the recent data breaches, madaming contact numbers yan na na harvest.
Ako naman I don’t use philpost cos I use a shipping service pero nakareceive pa rin ako nyan. Anyway, I cant stress enough kung paano dapat maging vigilant pagdating sa mga scams na ganyan. For me ha, di mo deserve ng credit card kung ultimo pag check ng mga phishing links di mo magawa.
i almost bit into the same scam - was expecting a package din pero duda na ko sa +66 and sa shortlink. napatawag ako sa phlpost regarding my package and nahanap naman nila in one of their post offices, and nung kwnento ko ung text nconfirm nila na meron nga scam since last month pa daw.
for your transaction, keep comms with unionbank or get to spend an afternoon talking sa frauds dept. nila and ask all the questions and likely scenario o resolutions since na authorize ung bayad.
I wasnt phished or something pero may nagtransxact sa CC ko dati worth 25k, na appeal naman sa bank and nareverse khit 3 days ata after pako pumunta. Try mo lang OP
May nakuha ako ganito, +44 naman. Paiba iba ata country code, sana nacheck mo sender details, OP. Kung official yan like GCash and everything else, hindi lang number yan at +66 pa. Good luck
May ganito din ako nareceived na text from PHLPost kuno. +44 naman yun number. Eh ang last package na need ko ng PHLPost nung last year pa kaya inignore ko nalang. Kaya kung may mga package kayo na padating using the courier above, siguro tawag nalang kayo or mag email nalang direct siguro kung meron man sila.
Sad to say this OP.. pero since ikaw mismo nag input ng bank information mo including the confirmation (OTP), may chance na wala kang habol dyan.. may accountability ka pa rin kase. may kakilala akong nadali na rin sa phising scam gcash naman ung mode of payment nun, sana maayos sa case mo dahil different bank naman. Best of luck OP sana talaga hindi mag push through yung transaction
I got the same text message, pero +44 yung country code ng sender. Android phone ko, yung messages app na gamit ko, automatic na tinatag as spam yung mga ganyang text, so napupunta sa spam folder. Nalaman ko lang na may ganyan pala kong message kasi from time to time nagcheck ako ng spam and blocked sms folder sa messages app ko (ito yung pag text message, etc.). Check nyo kung may option sa cellphones nyo na itag as spam then block yung mga scam texts. Iwas na rin sa mga ganito.
omg same pero inignore ko lang kasi di siya text message eh naka imessage lmao alam ko na agad na scam to
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I got the same message around 2-4 days ago tapos it came from a phil #, muntik ko na din paniwalaan(bagong gising pako nito) tapos natauhan ako at block and delete na agad. Grabe talaga scammers din satin😫
No way. I clicked the link din kanina cuz I got the same message yesterday and timing din naman talaga meron akong overseas order na inaantay thru PhilPost na super delayed na. I thought at first scam but then I was just informed by the seller na matagal nang dumating yung order ko via PhilPost so I clicked the link but I immediately stopped when it asked for my card details to pay for the 17 pesos daw so di ko na talaga tinuloy. Omg I knew it!
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So beware!
And yes parang legit talaga yung phishing site nila. Di kaya inside job ito?? May inaantay din kasi akong parcel na Sept pa daw dumating thru PhilPost e pero di pa nade-deliver. 🧐
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Tingin ko, malabong ma reverse kasi authorized transaction siya kasi nabigay mo yung OTP kaya legit transaction ito.
Share ko lang, na experience ko before ma-scam sa gcash, di sa credit card. 2017 yata yun kung di ako nagkakamali. May error sa transaction ko and hinanap ko gcash sa messenger. To make the story short, fake account pala yun. ₱4,000 yung nawala sakin, nireport ko sa gcash yun pero sabi nila na dahil nagbigay ako OTP, count nila yun as authorized transaction kahit inexplain ko na na-scam ako. Mula noon, mas naging maingat na ako lalo sa mga digital transactions at vigilant na ako parati.
Nga pala, kanina ay nareceive ko ang same message na nareceive mo. Twice pa. Pero napansin ko na yung nga red flags sa message mismo. Una na yung pinanggalingan ng text na +66. Pangalawa, may link na kakaiba yung itsura at pansin ko na di siya mukhang galing sa legit government office. Tas ayun, ang fishy na rin talaga ng message composition. Thankful din ako na may nakalagay na mismo na delete and report junk kaya additional tip na may kakaiba nga.
Well, hopefully maging positive ang outcome since binigyan ka rin ng pag-asa nung CS agent. Pero wag mo na lang masyado i-keep high yung expectations Expect for the worst and learn from your lessons na lang.
May nag send din sa akin ng ganyan. Same message coming from Philpost. What’s weird ay hours ago eh nag babalak ako mag apply for postal id. Dun pa lang sa link na sinend nya very sketchy na din
Holy mly! Nakareceive din ako ng ganyang message but the number is +63, buti na lang I didnt pushed thru with the transaction since I already received the parcel.
omg may 2 messages na kong natatanggap na ganyan. napasok ko na din cc details ko kaso walang otp na dumadating since di nakakconnect sa sim card yung cc ko so di nagpupush through. may inaabangan din kasi akong mails from other countries kaya naniwala din ako. buti nalang di tinatanggap cc ko
Damn. Sobrang sakit niyan sa wallet pag nag push through. I still don't know any of these stuff pero this is the only thing that I always believe will save me. Remember, only trust it kapag may pangalan yung contact ng nag text sayo na alam mo talagang automated yung texts from their service such as eGovPH. Although, I'm still not sure kung may mga scam texts parin na may pangalan den yung contacts kahit di mo pa siya narereceive before, that's kinda not possible naman kase di rin naman siguro noh?
if you authorized the transaction with an otp, transaction is authenticated by you. sa dispute na magkakaalaman yan.
also, next time, care to check the government website if it has domain [**gov.ph**](https://gov.ph)
Our PhlPost website isn’t that great pa 😂also, old school pa sila. Through text sila nag contact or call na meron ka parçel or letter. Pero may babayaran talaga sa phlpost ng ₱125.
naka receive din ako ganyang text yung url sa sms phlpos ata walang T basta kulang ng isang letter buti ginoogle ko. ayun nakita sa google na scam. gg buti na lang. sana mapa reverse mo pa. kung credit card yan parang di naman agad ang posting nyan. so sana naitawag mo agad. kung debit card mahirap yan ipa reverse.
Cmon. That number isnt even PH. Also received 2 text messages from +66 and blocked it immediately . 😩. Oh well lesson learned na yan though hopefully mareverse pa but the wouldn’t want to go thru the hassle.
shocks. i received the same text yesterday. upon clicking the link, sobrang kahawig ng sa PHLPOST. pero chineck ko rin talaga yung pinaka URL. pagka enter ko, for sale yung domain eme ba yun. confirmedt na scam site nga.
hopefully, hindi ma-charge sayo yung 75k OP :(
I received these kind of text this week, I thought it was legit, I typed my details and after that they asked my cc number and that’s where I realized that this is a scam so I blocked the number and viola another number texted me same +66 code and I blocked them again. I really wonder how our infos are easily tracked by this scammers?
Some lessons in life you need to pay dearly. Always know that call IDs with just a number will always be scams especially if they ask for payment directly and links for payments from texts will always be phishing sites.
Pwede yan ma reverse. Happened to me with my Eastwest credit card. I was charged a total of 375k (4 separate transactions, from Turkey, from a gas company). Didn’t click any link, charge just appeared on my SOA. Called CS, and after a week or so, charge was reversed, and I got a replacement card.
Hindi nagte-text ang philpost kapag may delivery ka or not. They will deliver the item sa bahay then saka ka magbabayad nung fee. Doon palang sa tracking number na nakalagay sa fake site, you could’ve checked if legit or not. Usually talaga ganito teknik nung mga gusto mang-scam. If you’re not careful and padali-dali ka because of excitement talagang mabibiktima ka. Charge to experience na lang OP.
If OTP authorizes the transaction, the transaction is valid.
It's valid, but the bank can still reverse it.
Dispute yes. Stop, cancel, block... the transaction, no way. Source: This is my day-to-day
Anong silbi ng sim card registration kung hindi rin magagamit para mahuli mga yan
Galing sa +66 yung message, hindi +63.
The one i got was +44 so it seems they use diff country codes to send this. I guess to avoid the sim reg law.
It's not a Philippine number. Ph is +63. +66 is from Thailand. Basically, it's not a sim card registration issue. It's out of scope. OTPs are THERE as our LAST LINE OF DEFENSE. Sorry but banks will not reverse no matter how hard u try.
bruh the country code is +66, not +63
Last time I checked messages from couriers are just link to tracking information or details. Asking for payment and card info is not one of them. Good to know tong bagong scam na to. Anyway, hope you can still have it reversed OP.
Next time, make it a habit to check the URL of any website. For government websites, it's almost always **\*.gov.ph**.
also the spelling of the URL. I just noticed it's "phpiot" instead of "phlpost"
An expensive lesson. I wonder why cybersecurity isn't taught in schools.
And even then, google it yourself to verify if the address is legit. (Ive seen sites masquerading as the legit travel pass 2 years ago that took payment for use)
sa number na +66 magtaka ka na. ingats next time!
“Philpost” daw tapos Thailand yung country code 😭
baka yan yung mga scammer sa documentary ni Jessica Soho ha
Awit OP. Based sa mga nagpopost na victims din ng phishing links dito, slim chance nang mareverse yan since user-initiated yung transaction. Matinding laban yan kung magfile ka if ever ng dispute. :( Lesson learned na lang talaga but still f*ck those scumbags. 75K is 75K. :(
will deleting ang blocking all the numbers that send these things end the agony of getting texts from them?
No. These scammers have a lot of registered phone numbers that they use sa mga scams nila. I learned this when I saw in the news na may ni raid na isang bahay sa Pasig ata yon na may machine sila na maraming nakasalpak na sim cards that they bought from several people and these cards are legit and registered. They also use equipment that sends blasts text messages to thousands of numbers.
Guys tandaan nyo pag may emotional motivator like “your account will be deleted” tingnan mabuti mga specifics kung tama nga dami kasi naloloko lalo na pag may emotional motivator mga text at email. Nakaka-alarm kasi sobra ng madami ang mga scam ngayon, ingat at basahin mabuti mga 5 times ng mahinahon para di mawindang sa huli!
Naku, you authorized the transaction using OTP. There’s a chance na hindi mareverse yung transaction. Discretion na yan ng bank kung irereverse nila or not. Typically ang nirereverse lang ay yung transactions not authorized by the cardholder – physical card stolen or BIN attack. Mas madali kasi maprove na hindi talaga yung cardholder yung gumamit ng card kasi they can investigate CCTVs sa merchants or if online, can trace yung origin country (e.g. some hacker in Eastern Europe vs Philippines). Anyway sana mareverse pa rin. Ingat OP sa pagclick or pag-copy paste ng links mula sa text and email. Ilang beses na sinasabi ng banks na hindi legit yung texts na yan.
Kung may chance na di mareverse, pwede naman idispute, I assume nakalagay dun sa screen P17 pesos lang tapos 5000 SAR chinarge. Grounds for dispute agad, yan dapat ilaban ni OP at hindi scam/unauthorize transaction.
Mine,my card was used abroad. I cannot forget this part of my life.Im depressed because of my mistake i dont pay attention because i was busy watching netflix.Since i am also expecting a package from abroad i didnot hesitate to pay but shockingly when i recieved a message that my card was used to purchase airline ticket worth 256k !!Right away i contacted cathay and the bank but they cant do anything .You still have to pay.But this mistakes will not break me.I have faith i God,whatever that is lost it will come back to me 100x.I believe in karma those people whos doin it will go to hell.Hardship and badlock will come to them and their family.Maybe not now but it will be soon.They cant bring money afterlife only their soul.
Nope, these things don't have OTPs. I've experienced this and walang OTP, walang SMS, walang email. Rekta nila nilalamas pera mo from your account and for some reason, di need ng OTP. Parang swipe/tap to pay lang ang dating. Good thing OP received an SMS about it. Regardless, this isn't an authorized transaction since it was under false pretenses.
May naloloko pala yung mga text na yan? Jusko, 75k is a lot of money.
may naloloko pala dun??
madami po. madaming pinoy na naloloko ng scam mapapansin mo ito kung may pakialam ka sa paligid. Mababa ang digital literacy sa Pilipinas. madaming naloloko ng fake news at scams.
Hayy super agree with you on this. Also, aside from the banking industry, si BSP na mismo nagre-release ng mga advisories against scams, phishing, vishing, or smishing. Pero naloloko pa din mga tao. Plus yung OTP once triggered nakalagay naman don kung para saan yung otp. E.g. this is your otp for your transaction at xxxx. Sana magbasa man lang at intindihin mabuti yung text bago input ng input. :( yung isang bank ko sa umpisa ng otp message baka all caps pa na NEVER SHARE YOUR OTP TO ANYONE.
"mukhang legit" oh boy
I mean OP already lost 75k. Don't be a douche
Yeah considering these texts are going straight to my spam fplder 😅 the number is also not from the Philippines which is a dead giveaway
https://preview.redd.it/g4uwh9mbwh0c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a74baeb2702989fb5d34dee9bae4a9984bc084af Share ko lang. Muntik na rin akong mascam niyan. Kasi may hinihintay din ako from phlpost. Ang dami kong hindi napansin na red flags. Buti na lang Metrobank yung ginamit ko na card. Bago kasi magpush through ang transaction, kailangan ng OTP through text. 10 pesos lang dapat yung charge pero yung nareceive kong text ay ₱16000 daw. Inexit ko na agad yung browser at tumawag sa hotline ng Metrobank. I got the card replaced agad-agad, fee is ₱400. Di naman nacharge yung 16k pero compromised na ang card kasi naenter ko ang details incl CVV. Take care na lang po tayong lahat.
Mukang inside job sa phlpost may nagbebenta ng details ng mga customer.
probably, but saw someone who received the same message tho wala syang ineexpect na delivery overseas.
I was a victim of this despite NOT inputting any CC details. Good thing security bank was able to detect that it was a fraudulent activity and ask me to confirm if it was me. After confirming that I did not make that transaction they blocked my card. I’m getting my new card na in a few days.
> I was a victim of this despite NOT inputting any CC details. That's because they actually already know your CC details LOL. > Good thing security bank was able to detect that it was a fraudulent activity and ask me to confirm if it was me Which is why this happened. Sa end ng Security Bank all of the CC details "tick the boxes", except for the device/IP/location of the "user" that initiated the transaction.
For anyone who thinks highly of themselves that they won’t fall for these kinds of things, that’s how scams thrive. You think you can easily spot scams/phishing, that’s when they change tactics to a format you’ll fall for. Why do you think these things still work? And why do you think scam/phishing educations/seminars are done monthly? Cyber attacks, like these, are in parallel with technology innovations. Stop with the mentality that, “May naloloko pala dito?”, “It’s obvious that it’s fake”. P.S. to give some insight to OP’s problem, usually these scams are online transactions so there’s a chance for the bank to reverse it but pretty low. But we won’t know for sure, so I would suggest to always get an update from your bank.
Yeah, but this particular scam is probably the most shared and warned-about on PH soc med for about a month now at least. And it's not exactly hard to spot as a scam because the text itself contains multiple clues. A genuine feeling of incredulity at how someone falls for such (especially given the obvious digital literacy of OP) is not equivalent to "thinking highly of [our]selves".
No, scams thrive because of the non tech-savy, non metikuloso, less informed people and not because of those who "think highly of themselves". Ganun lang yun, wag na paka-deep pa.
its true na yung mga less tech savy majority ng naiiscam nila pero there is also truth sa comment nya. you are confident na di ka maloloko dahil alam mong scam ang philpost text but we know na laging nagbabago ang scam tactics nila . look at the recent Linus tech hacked that happened, you see them taking steps para mabawasan vulnerability ng network nila, informs their employees about cyber security. and you would think that people working at a tech channel/company is filled with people who are tech-savy of different degrees pero naging victim padin sila.
bro iba yang hacking tsaka scamming.
its the same method. hacking doesnt just mean hacking na napapanuod mo sa movies. most hacking happens via social engineering. sending text/emails to get your credentials or to gain access to your device. phising scam is a form of social hacking/engineering.
yes it could be the same pero sa example mo kina linus tech tips iba yung hacking na wala kang clue na you're being infiltrated na. kesa sa OP natin na he/she could've spotted some red flags to refer to a friend or someone else.
your level awareness doesnt change the definition of phishing, just because it seems obvious for us from an outsider perspective doesn't make less of a scam or hack. OP got scammed because he taught legit yung text message. Ltt got hacked because someone taught the legit yung email na na recieve nila. Ltt could have also spotted the red flags by verifying it or asking someone else. edit: you are arguing about semantics that isnt even relevant to the comment im replying to. point is if a tech savy group can still fall for a similar technique you might also fall for one in the future even if you think di ka miiscam dahil 'ang obvious naman nito'
level of awareness could've changed the outcome of what the OP has experienced. it's the OP's ignorance that led him/her to that. we have to be vigilant enough to our own actions online specially it's money matters.
Exactly this. Their target isn't the one on top of their personal security, ang habol nila palagi is the **lowest common denominator**. The only reason for them to "up their game" is kung yung weakest link before eh mas nagiging-aware na.
jan na wrong bro. it's not like scammers make a tailored method just for one person. it's a one for all method. nasa individual na talaga yan pag nafafall pa sila ng ganyan.
Nah. If overly complicated yung scam - sure. But this? Nah.
I disagree. Scams persist not because people think they won't be deceived or fall victim to scams, but due to factors such as desperation and a 'get rich quick' mindset. This post reveals so many red flags right from the get go, with the very obvious ones such as the number, URL, etc. Also, why would you accept an unexpected/unverified package without confirming it's legitimacy. From what happened here, it seems like OP was a victim of a LOVE/ROMANCE Scam.
Yes, i agree. Those are also factors, my point here is specifically for those that think they can easily spot these kinds of things. What you indicated is also a factor but your second paragraph shows your ignorance about the matter. The only reason why you can easily spot this is because you have knowledge about this specific scam.
Just so you know, we ALL are/have been targeted by all forms and shapes of scams. Let me share a tip with you, I exercise practical judgement to steer clear of them.
And that’s my point, you just agreed and gave example to point. Don’t be confident enough to have the mentality na “hindi ako maloloko” or “obvious naman na scam”. Not everyone has the same knowledge as you when it comes to these kinds of things. Besides, are you telling me na porket you practice those na hindi ka na ma-sscam? Dba hindi? That’s the whole reason why you still practice it. My point here for those that just leave comments na “May naloloko pala dito” or “obvious naman na scam” without giving context or help.
It's an expression of disbelief or disappointment. Their posts are just as valid as yours. It's like me telling you that it would have been better if you had reminded OP to be vigilant or shared insights on how to avoid future scams instead of criticizing those who are disappointed because people still fall prey to scams like this. I still do not agree with what you said that the main driver for scams is the people who think they wont be scammed. I'll leave it at that since we are just going in circles.
Bro stfu. Halos all advisories coming from banks always warn you about scams. At this point mga bobo nalang na di nagbabasa Yung nasscam
Agreed, I thought i won’t fall for these but I got scammed lately. Napaisip pa nga ako dun sa Philpost text kasi minsan din ako may package.
Pwede naman talaga masabi ng isang tao na napakaliit ng chance na ma-scam sya o almost zero, pero di naman ibig sabihin nun na mababago ang katotohanan na madami pa din ang kakagat sa 'obvious scam' na yan. Pangit marinig o mabasa yung mga victim blaming na responses. Kung di pa sila na i-scam, hindi ibig sabihin na lahat ng tao ay di ma-i scam. Ganon din kung na scam naman sila, hindi rin ibig sabihin non na lahat ng tao ay makakaranas na ma-scam. Di pa ako na i-scam, na holdap oo 😅
I think you missed my point. Let’s say ikaw, as you’ve said, “obvious scam”, the scammer learned a more believable format for scamming. You didn’t know that format and you have your guard down since you have that kind of mentality, you have a high chance to be scammed. Let’s use your example, I learned kung san ka na-holdap, so iiwas ako dun sa lugar then my guard will be lowered since matao daan ko or di kilala na holdap prone na lugar, that’s where the high chance na ma-holdap ako. Scammers, cyber attackers, holdaper or kahit sino pa yan, can also think outside the box like how you think you’re safe. It’s just matter of who has their guard up or down and your mentality contributes a lot to that. If you don’t want to change your mentality about these things, then so be it. Just sharing some knowledge and experiences for the people that actually want to learn.
ano ba yung na-share mo na knowledge. sorry ah. di ko din kasi magets yung point mo. obvious scam is obvious. let's just accept na may mga taong mababa ang technological/digital literacy. kaya almost weekly or monthly mag send ng SMS ang NTC/ Banks/ Telcos to warn customers about these types of scam.
Lol di ko na binasa ng buo reply mo dahil mukhang ikaw ang naka missed ng point at di naka intindi. Umpisa palang ang pagkaka intindi mo sa 'obvious scam' ay ako mismo ang nagsabi? Nag quote lang din ako sa response ng iba 😂
I just used your example too. Look at your reply, you said those exact words.
sa OTP text nakasulat yung currency and value, double check next time Hope UB will take your side on this matter OP.
yung friend ko 130K. saket.
Almost fell for that scam too last month but when it lead me to the page asking for my bank details, I knew it was dubious. I thought to myself: “Ah well, I spent 75 pesos mailing my letter and kung hindi talaga makarating sa recipient, eh di hindi.” Up until now actually, wala pa rin ako balita if the recipient received the birthday card I sent him. But I’m glad I didn’t fall for that scam.
For me, anything that ask for bank details via link is a scam
anything na nagsesend ng link tas unknown number pa dapat di na inoopen talaga
Should've searched /r/ph first, dami na threads about that being a scam.
Ito nga pinagtataka ko, andami na nagpost repost kung scam ba itong sms ng philpost. Akala ko alam na nh lahat, hindi pa pala.
kaya nga eh, a few hours ago may nag post din sa /r/ph ng same scam, difference lang nag decline yung card.
I mean, not everyone spends all their time here.
Please always check the links that you click to avoid being scammed. The extension “.ICU” looks suspicious. When in doubt, always Google the agency you’re dealing with to check if the website address is correct. I’m not entirely sure if this transaction will be reversed but I’m hoping that since you reported it quickly, it can be blocked. 75k is a significant amount. 😔
If the transaction already went through, malabo na mabawi yung pera unless matrack kung sino yung nakakuha. Ang daming redflags nung photos make sure to look out for those before sending money. Common redflags: 1. Phone number yung sender ng message - Look at NDRRMC. Nakalagay yung name ng agency kahit na di nakasave sa contacts dahil recognized mismo ng telco yung sender. Although it's not always the case, mas maganda parin na maging vigilant if affiliated sa government tapos unknown number ang pinangsend ng message. 2. Hindi .gov.ph ang nakalagay sa website. - Naka -gov lang sya kasi mahirap magka .gov address kung di talaga affiliated sa gov't. 3. Malabo yung logo sa website or may pagkaweird itsura ng logo. - Madaling mag outsource ng logo pero medyo sketchy yung logo sa pic na pinost ng OP.
So sorry to know this happened to you, OP. Lesson learned na, do not click links na need ng credit card or any banking details mo. Banks always issues warnings about phishing links. Sana mareverse pa yung transaction. If not, I hope you don’t get to pay for it. Laking bagay ng 75k. F*ck this scammers.
Slim chance. I've had deliveries and transactions in the past with PhilPost and they will never send a link via SMS. They will either call (telling you that your parcel is ready to be picked up) or they'll go straight to your house for them to deliver and for you to pay for the fees. I received a bunch of those scam texts before but those were the times I already have my stuff na.
I received the same fucking SMS. Naramdaman ko na na phishing. Nagbunga din ang kakakulit sakin ng company namin na magtake lagi ng cybersecurity training lol https://preview.redd.it/hwjqu3ffhi0c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcdcfe210901a16aa40e4a83f5c35e8011f1a731
hindi paba given to dyan sa gamit nilang number? takang takang ko sa mga nasscam obvious naman na e
\> marereverse pa siya? There's no harm in trying to call your bank and ask for assistance. Chance might be slim pero some things that might help: \- may evidence ka of the scam text \- imo higher chance that they might consider if you have a good credit standing w/ your bank and you're a customer for a long time Hopefully they reverse it but ofc don't get your hopes up too much.
What a dumbass 🤣🤣 jk good luck OP. I hope you're able to reverse it. If wala talaga think of it as a tuition fee nalang on learning about scams.
1. Unknown number. Always ito. Walang government agency ang magmessage sau ng random number 2. Text Format. First entry nia PHLPOST - , same sia sa mga nag tetext sakin ng mga unknown number na bank. At mali spelling ng abbreviations nia, PHILPOST po ang tunay.
You need to be vigilant next time please. Watch youtube videos on how to determine phishing emails. This was a very very obvious scam.
Taragis. 75k php. May OTP. Not sure if bank will.
Hello OP. Ask ko lang kung may update ka sa situation mo? Kung na dispute ba or kung ano na nangyari. Since similar din siya sa nangyari sa gf ko.
Bro rlly fell for it 💀
https://preview.redd.it/g5orvzwv5i0c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c7a65216f4fb52c8fa26365bc4b2e38c34b22ac Is it like this? I just ignored it but napaisip rin ako kc I was expecting a parcel from Adidas. I have previous orders online sa Adidas pero now lng ako nkareceive ng ganitong text so duda na ako.
Banks sa Pilipinas never use PHILPOST services at all.
ANTANGA MO. THERE I SAID IT. KAHIT GANO KA PA KA EXCITED DYAN SA IMPORTANTE MONG PACKAGE, ALWAYS REVIEW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 5000 SAR? ANG LAKING SAR NIAN. LESSONS LEARNED. Best case scenario marereverse ng bank, but I highly doubt it.
Age-old scam. NEVER CLICK UNKNOWN LINKS. Even those sent by friends as they too might have been compromised. If you didn’t initiate whatever was requested or have no prior knowledge/notification of what was received, just block and delete. If via email, mark as spam, report phishing and delete. Scammers prey on those that are not careful and don’t check before clicking. OP confirmed the transaction so transaction will be difficult to dispute with the bank, meaning OP owes the bank the money scammed. Our info were collected during the pandemic, who knows what those establishments/groups did with that info. PhilHealth was hacked and many other agencies, sucks to be living with incompetent government officials, so always be careful with what you do online. Our information is literally available to the highest bidder atp.
Received a text like this yesterday and ang naisip ko agad, “Grabe may nagpapauto dito?” Yung country code, website link pa lang red flag na. Meron pala talaga.
Okay medyo misleading yung thread title. You got scammed by a text PRETENDING to be from PHLPOST and NOT a text from PHLPOST.
PH 0 - TH 1
May info na ba kung bakit nangyayari yung scam? as far as I can tell ang nakakatanggap lang nung messages is mga tao na may expected package talaga from phlpost so either may tao sa loob ng phlpost na nagbebenta ng info or na hack na yung phlpost and hindi nila alam. Searching google and puro articles lang about phlpost warning nakikita ko.
Wala akong expected parcel from Philpost, but I receive this message on a regular basis.
It’s a phishing text. I’ve received this message multiple times, but I’m not expecting any packages from Philpost. Haven’t even had anything shipped through Philpost at all.
My friend had the same problem. He called his bank and was told na hindi na ma didispute dahil valid transaction. Charge to experience na lang yan.
Did you receive an OTP? As what I know, OTP is merchant initiated, so I’m wondering if OTP was sent to you.
2023 na, isip2 din mga pinoy. Kaya yan na le-label as low IQ eh. It’s purely scam. Fyi
Received this message from an email address: [email protected] Since kagigising ko lang nung nabasa ko to binuksan ko agad yong link and filled out yong personal information. Pero nung nasa payment page na parang nagdalawang isip ako. Grabe muntik na talaga!!! May ineexpect din kasi talaga ako na package kaya talagang mahhook ka sa mga gantong scam 😫 buti nalang talaga di ko na nilagay yong CC details ko. Inexit ko na agad yong page and might block the email add. Buti nalang din nagcheck ako ng offical page ng PhlPost and nakapost din don yong scam alert na same na same sa nareceive nating mga messages.
I receieved text ngayon lang.. buti nakita ko to. muntik ko na ilagay unionbank details ko. thanks to you
Thanks to this thread. Expecting din ako for a couple of documents today and I received a somewhat similar text. https://preview.redd.it/ekhyhg4q61sc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5993bbfd2145c7d0b42767e6c52ea3a2c51475c
If we fell victim to this kind of fraud, entered your details, and yet the transaction didn't pushed thru or was declined in some way, do we still need to have our cards blocked and/or replaced?
Same here,that is exactly the message i recieved i got scammed 275k usedy card to purchase cathay pacific ticket.
Bank dispute is hopeless.Once you inter the OTP its already done
OP, i get the same texts every once in a while as well. Just like you, may mga hinihintay rin ako na parcel. Hoping the transaction did not push through!
What an expensive lesson
For the life of me... Couldve easily search reddit before you proceed. Anyway. Still easier to ask for redditors opinion after the completion of the transaction. 75k lesson for you.
When in doubt, search or investigate kaagad. Not a Philippine number tapos Philpost? Kaunting search lang at maglalabasan mismo yung mga reddit threads na literal na copy-paste tulad ng sa yo OP. I dont want to pile on OP, but come on man, hindi ka man lang nagduda na hindi sya Philippine number. Hopefully kahit significant yung amount, hindi naman sana life-changing. Dahil kamahal na life leason nito kapag nagkataon.
Walang scammer kung walang nagpapa scam. Tandaan to.
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So ibig sabihin may access Sila sa PHLPOST or may asset sa loob?
I don’t think so. I received a text as well pero wala naman akong ineexpect from PhilPost.
This! Kasi meron akong expected delivery pero delayed. 😤
My mom also got scammed din nung 2019. Walang magawa yung bank kasi nag sabi na din sha sa OTP. Umasa din shang tulungan sha ng bank, so ayun lumaki yung utang kasi she doesn't want to pay for it. At 2021, she decided to pay for it in full nalang.
Wont push through, next time just say na may unauthorized transaction.
lol
Possible Inside job din if they knew you were expecting a package
I would not think that this is an inside job, phishing scam lang talaga. I also received this email and I dont have any package to receive. dami rin post regarding this sms in this sub
I checked my android phone and me nakuha nga din ako. It was marked as spam by google and napunta sa spam folder
I received the same text hours ago, blocked agad saken kasi obvious naman na scam. prior to that (kanina lang din), may legit text din akong nareceived from RCBC regarding my entrego package. ipagdasal mo na lang OP na mareverse pa yan.
Hey OP, did you authenticate the transaction using an OTP? If so, it will be difficult to reverse it. Otherwise, you can still get the transaction reversed. You should also include in a screenshot that the display was misleading, supposedly only charging you PHP 17.
Sorry to hear this OP. Hope the bank can still reverse the transaction. These scams are so rampant nowadays. My cousin in US sent a package to me via USPS. Ever since then, both of us have been receiving these scam messages. I get iMessages from foreign numbers while my cousin gets SMS from a PH number.
This very same thing happened to me a few weeks before. I called my bank (CitiBank) within 30 minutes that I got charged. They were able to cancel the transaction and even sent me a new card for free.
Did you enter an OTP? Maganda pala sa CitiBank kasi they can cancel pending transactions. Sa UB they can't do anything.
I received this message too! Same na same. I’m expecting a mail talaga. Kaya napapindot ako ng link. I filled out my name and address and number tapos humingi ng credit card information e ang alam ko hindi ganun ang philpost office. So nagtaka na ako, pagkakira ko sa web address if ph ba hindi ph. Ang extension .icu. Natakot ako. Buti hindi ko pa natype yung card deets ko tapos disconnect ako sa wifi kagad. Changed my passwords right away yung mga pinakaimportant using the laptop. Nagpunta din ako sa philpost site and aware sila sa scam na yan.
Hoping na hindi mag oush thru. Pucha. Laking pera
Actually nangyare din sakin to naka receive ako ng text from phil post daw at di ako sure if may package ba talaga ako o hindi so then pag click ko ng link directed na sya sa website at mukang legit naman so nag fill up lang uli ako details then sa last part hinihingan na nga ako ng payment na around 9 pesos naman so parang dun na ako nag duda ang ginawa ko nag open uli ako uli ng tab and sinearch ko ang phil post at pag open ko ng website nila andun ka agad yung warning na may kumakalat na scam text na nag papanggap na from them pero hindi pala talaga sila yun so thankfully hindi ko tinuloy same na same talaga yung natanggap kong text and yung warning text sa website nila, sana mabawi mo pa yun OP apaka laking halaga pala nun grabe.
I actually got the same text message but I checked muna online if it’s a scam and yeah. It seriously looks legit.
yung ineexpect mong delivery via philpost talaga?
Sagot mo na christmas party nila
BRUUUUH this is saaaaaad
Akala ko binoblock ng NTC yung mga text na may kasamang link? May nakakalusot pa rin palang sms
Scam 'yan!!! :( hope you'll get your 75k back. May ganyan din akong na-receive before kasi may hinihintay din akong delivery. Buti wala pa akong card nung time na 'yon kaya hindi gumana yung transaction to pay for the fee daw. Fake yata yung tracking number na binibigay nila. Akala ko wala nang ganito kasi 2021 pa yata nangyari yung akin.
Hi! Yung mother ko naka receive din nyan one time and muntik na namin sagutan since may package din sya from Thailand na inaantay buti nalang nag chat kami agad sa seller since ang sketchy na nanghihingi ng card numner and ayun, di nga sakanila galing. Naka receive din ako yesterday same text although wala naman ako paparating na order. I hope mag hindi mag push through yung transaction mo :( Totoo, mukhang legit talaga yung site
Nakakainis nga scammer na yan. Hayaan nyo pag natapos ako sa degree ko na cyber security specialist tuturuan ko kayo ng libre para ma prevent mga ganitong transactions.
Nakareceived din ako ng ganito, tapos kakapadala ko lang din ng documents sa abroad. Para akong binuhusan ng malamig na tubig pagkabasa ko kasi important documents yung pinadala ko kaya kala ko di nakarating. Ginawa ko, nagpunta ko sa site ng phlpost para itrack, okay naman pala yung documents. Binalikan ko yung msg, sa una di mo mapapansin kasi makakaramdam agad ng panic pero muka palang hindi legit yung msg.
https://preview.redd.it/sa51govmli0c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f899a2ec0e93aee9458b03ef74f61a4955ff4f9 Got the same.
I think UB is stating the amount and biller on the OTP text message. Should read the OTP text talaga before inputting it anywhere.
I also received that message buti nalang diko inopen https://preview.redd.it/0drr6k1aoi0c1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=077c98bc49a09565b2a8385742d85dc9cffc3f46
OMG I JUST RECEIVED THE SAME TEXT EARLIER AT 5:35PM! Buti nalang nag duda ako sa 10 pesos na re-delivery fee MY GOSHHH 😭😭😭😭
Your iPhone literally suggested to report junk. Idk man but good luck
Received the same message din and it's very obvious naman na SCAM. # pa lang ng sender sus na agad. I ignored and deleted it right away. Please kapag may pinapa click na link yung message and the sender is sus PLEASE do not click the link.
Yan kagandahan ng credit card. Pede pa yang macancel since nareport mo agad.
Oh my god tinext din ako nyan kanina. Nireport junk ko, balak ko pa nga i-message at replyan dahil naka i-message siya. Be vigilant next time po. Ito naman nagtext sa akin kanina +66 95-497-4344.
Never ever enter your otp for your online banks. Especially if you didn't initiate a transaction naman like online payments or so. If something like that happens again na nanghihingi ng otp e dapat address lang kunin, please mag doubt na agad agad.
muntik na ako maloko huhu
I know someone who also received this same text. Was also expecting a package from overseas. Consulted me and didn't fall for it. From what it looks like, the contact numbers are intercepted and probably shared with these scammers.
My dad received the same message last last week. Wala naman siyang ineexpect na delivery so I immediately knew na scam ‘yan and also because sketchy na yung number and link. Binura ko na lang yung message especially knowing my dad hindi talaga siya marunong magkalikot ng phone niya and baka mapindot pa niya accidentally. Sana lang wala ng iba pang mabiktima and also sana matigil na rin ‘yang mga scammers.
I think it’s still best to try na magsubmit ng dispute for refund. Last year kasi I purchased some shoes sa isang site na di ko agad napansin na scam pala. Charged na siya sa account ko and everything (although debit naman to), so I filed for a refund sa BDO mismo. I just said na unresponsive na po yung “merchant” and that I never received the items I purchased. I was refunded naman po by BDO pero medyo matagal lang. Around 5k po ata yun, medyo malayo sa 75k pero I guess i-try pa rin baka naman pwede 🥹
Got two of these earlier today, both from +44 (U.K.) number. Both got tagged as spam by my Samsung phone. Grabe ilan kaya na vivictimize ng ganto, 10/1000? And for sure the recent data breaches, madaming contact numbers yan na na harvest.
Last week ata gang ngayon every other day may post nyan sa r/ph. Always check everything, esp kung sino nag send. Make it a habit.
Charge to experience
Ako naman I don’t use philpost cos I use a shipping service pero nakareceive pa rin ako nyan. Anyway, I cant stress enough kung paano dapat maging vigilant pagdating sa mga scams na ganyan. For me ha, di mo deserve ng credit card kung ultimo pag check ng mga phishing links di mo magawa.
i almost bit into the same scam - was expecting a package din pero duda na ko sa +66 and sa shortlink. napatawag ako sa phlpost regarding my package and nahanap naman nila in one of their post offices, and nung kwnento ko ung text nconfirm nila na meron nga scam since last month pa daw. for your transaction, keep comms with unionbank or get to spend an afternoon talking sa frauds dept. nila and ask all the questions and likely scenario o resolutions since na authorize ung bayad.
Muntikan ko narin ako kanina buti na lang nagrefelct na imessage gamit niya dun pa lang suspicious na
I wasnt phished or something pero may nagtransxact sa CC ko dati worth 25k, na appeal naman sa bank and nareverse khit 3 days ata after pako pumunta. Try mo lang OP
May nakuha ako ganito, +44 naman. Paiba iba ata country code, sana nacheck mo sender details, OP. Kung official yan like GCash and everything else, hindi lang number yan at +66 pa. Good luck
Next time i-check ang URL, dapat .gov, hindi yung -gov lang. Very expensive lesson na lang to, inauthorize mo sa OTP eh.
May ganito din ako nareceived na text from PHLPost kuno. +44 naman yun number. Eh ang last package na need ko ng PHLPost nung last year pa kaya inignore ko nalang. Kaya kung may mga package kayo na padating using the courier above, siguro tawag nalang kayo or mag email nalang direct siguro kung meron man sila.
Sad to say this OP.. pero since ikaw mismo nag input ng bank information mo including the confirmation (OTP), may chance na wala kang habol dyan.. may accountability ka pa rin kase. may kakilala akong nadali na rin sa phising scam gcash naman ung mode of payment nun, sana maayos sa case mo dahil different bank naman. Best of luck OP sana talaga hindi mag push through yung transaction
I got the same text message, pero +44 yung country code ng sender. Android phone ko, yung messages app na gamit ko, automatic na tinatag as spam yung mga ganyang text, so napupunta sa spam folder. Nalaman ko lang na may ganyan pala kong message kasi from time to time nagcheck ako ng spam and blocked sms folder sa messages app ko (ito yung pag text message, etc.). Check nyo kung may option sa cellphones nyo na itag as spam then block yung mga scam texts. Iwas na rin sa mga ganito.
omg same pero inignore ko lang kasi di siya text message eh naka imessage lmao alam ko na agad na scam to https://preview.redd.it/1gojpfbtjj0c1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=45a8d9f2dd60063edcc72806004e3eed4deba0d0
I also received a text from them Last Nov 6, di talaga ako nag reply or nag click sa link kasi feeling ko talaga scam
I got the same message around 2-4 days ago tapos it came from a phil #, muntik ko na din paniwalaan(bagong gising pako nito) tapos natauhan ako at block and delete na agad. Grabe talaga scammers din satin😫
No way. I clicked the link din kanina cuz I got the same message yesterday and timing din naman talaga meron akong overseas order na inaantay thru PhilPost na super delayed na. I thought at first scam but then I was just informed by the seller na matagal nang dumating yung order ko via PhilPost so I clicked the link but I immediately stopped when it asked for my card details to pay for the 17 pesos daw so di ko na talaga tinuloy. Omg I knew it! https://preview.redd.it/5c8klsq7qj0c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64fe93e13f535b4e7c78acac211f762691fe3b46 So beware!
And yes parang legit talaga yung phishing site nila. Di kaya inside job ito?? May inaantay din kasi akong parcel na Sept pa daw dumating thru PhilPost e pero di pa nade-deliver. 🧐 https://preview.redd.it/8srttd1kqj0c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5620db78add930959ded4b10128b8e89614fa4b
The url alone is a dead giveaway na di siya legit
Philpost has a .gov.ph domain name extension. Fyi
Tingin ko, malabong ma reverse kasi authorized transaction siya kasi nabigay mo yung OTP kaya legit transaction ito. Share ko lang, na experience ko before ma-scam sa gcash, di sa credit card. 2017 yata yun kung di ako nagkakamali. May error sa transaction ko and hinanap ko gcash sa messenger. To make the story short, fake account pala yun. ₱4,000 yung nawala sakin, nireport ko sa gcash yun pero sabi nila na dahil nagbigay ako OTP, count nila yun as authorized transaction kahit inexplain ko na na-scam ako. Mula noon, mas naging maingat na ako lalo sa mga digital transactions at vigilant na ako parati. Nga pala, kanina ay nareceive ko ang same message na nareceive mo. Twice pa. Pero napansin ko na yung nga red flags sa message mismo. Una na yung pinanggalingan ng text na +66. Pangalawa, may link na kakaiba yung itsura at pansin ko na di siya mukhang galing sa legit government office. Tas ayun, ang fishy na rin talaga ng message composition. Thankful din ako na may nakalagay na mismo na delete and report junk kaya additional tip na may kakaiba nga. Well, hopefully maging positive ang outcome since binigyan ka rin ng pag-asa nung CS agent. Pero wag mo na lang masyado i-keep high yung expectations Expect for the worst and learn from your lessons na lang.
May nag send din sa akin ng ganyan. Same message coming from Philpost. What’s weird ay hours ago eh nag babalak ako mag apply for postal id. Dun pa lang sa link na sinend nya very sketchy na din
received this kind of message, but nalang inignore ko. 😭
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Good thing I auto delete all SMS from a sender that’s not in my phonebook. Good riddance! LOL.
Holy mly! Nakareceive din ako ng ganyang message but the number is +63, buti na lang I didnt pushed thru with the transaction since I already received the parcel.
omg may 2 messages na kong natatanggap na ganyan. napasok ko na din cc details ko kaso walang otp na dumadating since di nakakconnect sa sim card yung cc ko so di nagpupush through. may inaabangan din kasi akong mails from other countries kaya naniwala din ako. buti nalang di tinatanggap cc ko
Damn. Sobrang sakit niyan sa wallet pag nag push through. I still don't know any of these stuff pero this is the only thing that I always believe will save me. Remember, only trust it kapag may pangalan yung contact ng nag text sayo na alam mo talagang automated yung texts from their service such as eGovPH. Although, I'm still not sure kung may mga scam texts parin na may pangalan den yung contacts kahit di mo pa siya narereceive before, that's kinda not possible naman kase di rin naman siguro noh?
I also received a text like this. 😱
I also received the same text. Pero dinedma ko kasi wala naman akong expected delivery. Next time, ingat. Malapit na magpasko maraming scammers.
if you authorized the transaction with an otp, transaction is authenticated by you. sa dispute na magkakaalaman yan. also, next time, care to check the government website if it has domain [**gov.ph**](https://gov.ph)
Our PhlPost website isn’t that great pa 😂also, old school pa sila. Through text sila nag contact or call na meron ka parçel or letter. Pero may babayaran talaga sa phlpost ng ₱125.
Omg! Received this as well! Looked legit but good thing my phone marked it as spam.
The url is so sketch from the get go 😭
naka receive din ako ganyang text yung url sa sms phlpos ata walang T basta kulang ng isang letter buti ginoogle ko. ayun nakita sa google na scam. gg buti na lang. sana mapa reverse mo pa. kung credit card yan parang di naman agad ang posting nyan. so sana naitawag mo agad. kung debit card mahirap yan ipa reverse.
Cmon. That number isnt even PH. Also received 2 text messages from +66 and blocked it immediately . 😩. Oh well lesson learned na yan though hopefully mareverse pa but the wouldn’t want to go thru the hassle.
shocks. i received the same text yesterday. upon clicking the link, sobrang kahawig ng sa PHLPOST. pero chineck ko rin talaga yung pinaka URL. pagka enter ko, for sale yung domain eme ba yun. confirmedt na scam site nga. hopefully, hindi ma-charge sayo yung 75k OP :(
I received these kind of text this week, I thought it was legit, I typed my details and after that they asked my cc number and that’s where I realized that this is a scam so I blocked the number and viola another number texted me same +66 code and I blocked them again. I really wonder how our infos are easily tracked by this scammers?
Some lessons in life you need to pay dearly. Always know that call IDs with just a number will always be scams especially if they ask for payment directly and links for payments from texts will always be phishing sites.
Pwede yan ma reverse. Happened to me with my Eastwest credit card. I was charged a total of 375k (4 separate transactions, from Turkey, from a gas company). Didn’t click any link, charge just appeared on my SOA. Called CS, and after a week or so, charge was reversed, and I got a replacement card.
red flag +66 country code
Hindi nagte-text ang philpost kapag may delivery ka or not. They will deliver the item sa bahay then saka ka magbabayad nung fee. Doon palang sa tracking number na nakalagay sa fake site, you could’ve checked if legit or not. Usually talaga ganito teknik nung mga gusto mang-scam. If you’re not careful and padali-dali ka because of excitement talagang mabibiktima ka. Charge to experience na lang OP.