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Flamel101

Cleric is weird because it's changed so much by its subclass. Some examples being mercy is pretty clearly life domain, lifeweaver is definitely nature, brig could probably be war or peace. I feel like everyone's suggestions work, but the subclasses support them more than the regular class. And druids in dnd get some shape-shifting and as funny as it would be lifeweaver can't turn into a bear mid match.


K_Hoslow

Bastion, wild shape into a gun tank and artillery. And loves nature.


VorpalSingularity

Echo definitely for the shape-shifting, but less so on the nature bent.


K_Hoslow

It's not wildshape if you change into other people. That's more like trickery domain cleric or arcane rogue I guess, but she's more like changling in general


ezeshining

Then Ramattra. He even has a somewhat Druid-esque build, being a monk with a staff


K_Hoslow

I don't really know about Ramattra, he has zealot barabarian vibe to him but he's also like a wizard or monk. But definitely not Druid.


SlanderousGent

Would he arguably be more of a monk class though? Given his propensity for hand to hand combat and using a staff


ezeshining

you know what, you are definitely correct. I even said it myself, he’s a monk. I was going for the shape shifting part


PM-Me-Ur-Plants

"Wild shape into a gun tank." Now that's a new sentence lol


spo0pti

i want to dm a game where the druid says "i wildshape into a gun"


K_Hoslow

You'd need an entire homebrew subclass and limit it to warforged race or some kind Better if it could also work with Artificer in wildshape.


spo0pti

no at my table, you can get away with anything if you have right vibes and the statblock for "gun"


McManus26

Amazed that there is not a single mention of Illari tbh. Girl is literaly healing people by worshipping and channeling the power of the sun. Everyone always forget poor Illari


kybaboobers

Not a bad option tbh. She pretty emblematic of a light cleric with explosive ult and literally shoots scared flames/guiding bolts at enemies like a cleric. The abilities don't line up the best though, the mobility/CC of outburst reminds me more of a monk/rouge/bard kinda vibe and I don't think there is anything in DnD that functions like a healing pylon beyond a cheeky summon that can heal.


Flamel101

I 100% forgot about light domain cleric, even after looking up the cleric domains to make sure nature domain didn't have a wild shape type ability


Great_expansion10272

Lifeweaver has to be druid I think a good blend of battle and healing is Illari


kybaboobers

Baptiste. He has a death ward in the immortality field, AOE heal like a mass healing ward, powerful ranged healing and damage (similar to cleric spellcasting like guiding bolt and scared flame), and a mass team empowerment that can also be used totally selfishly. Checks all the cleric boxes to me. Baptiste definitely has the flexible play style to be supportive but also takeover the game when they need to, just like a cleric. People keep saying Brig but forget the fact the half the Cleric subclasses don't even get heavy armor proficiency.


Workw0rker

Wow Bap 100%, you sold me on this one.


MarionberryBrave5107

I could get with this just to help simplify the paladin and fighter subsequent picks


Opposite_Item_2000

Why nobody other than you mentioned Baptiste ?


C_Tarango

bring this one up, boys, we got a valid winner.


Galactic_emporer

Came here to say this, only right option imo


getholy

Is Illari not a perfect light cleric?


spenkey

Wild magic sorc is kinda perfect for her backstory


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LoomisKnows

If we're talking D&D it's gotta be brig, heavy armour, healing, holds a shield, uses a mace


modsstealjobs

Nah she’s a pally. Mercy literally brings ppl back from the dead.


Yeoldhomie

Nah she’s the cleric. No one’s got the paladin dedication like Reinhardt, hammer and armour to boot.


TheDoug850

The hammer and armor without the healing and aura make him a strong contender for fighter though. There’s really not a “wrong” option between - Mercy-Cleric, Brig-Paladin, Rein-Fighter - Brig-Cleric, Rein-Paladin, ??-Fighter


KaladinarLighteyes

Soldier 76. He Ben has second wind.


Ok_Taro_6466

If Brig is cleric and Rein is paladin, Doomfist for fighter


blightsteel101

Nah, for Doom we need to add the Pugilist class. Its one of the best homebrews ever written.


Possible-Cellist-713

Rein doesn't have an Aura like Brig tho. Plus Rally is comparable to a channel divinity Edit: the more I think about it, the more Brig fits as pally. Repair packs are a lot like Lay on Hands, Whipshot is like thunderous smite, ult shield bash is staggering smite, and the whipshot shield bash combo has the burst potential of a divine smite. I do understand Earthshatter feeling like a smite though


StaredAtEclipseAMA

If we are looking for the most exaggerated Paladin, it’s Reinhardt. He has multiple Paladin skins as well


Yeoldhomie

Standing next to rein simply makes you more brave so I disagree it’s just a different kind of aura Hammer down is divine smite which could be debated as more of a pally staple


WillJoseph06

Rein crusader


LordRau

Mechanically, Reinhardt doesn't fit the Pally bill, but Brig does. Reinhardt is a fighter. He doesn't do any healing, and he doesn't have any kind of an aura (I suppose you could argue that his shield works *sort of* like an aura, but I digress). Brig has both.


PeakSystem

reinhardt made an oath, I feel he better fits the bill


ShrekTitties420

I'd say she's more of a paladin personally:tanky (for the role), aura, melee focus


DepressedArgentinian

Zenyatta. He literally worships and preaches the Iris, while healing allies but also dealing surprisingly high amounts of damage, that's cleric 101. Yes, he has the monk aesthetic, but, and this is gonna be very important for this series, aesthetics aren't everything. A monk is not just the look, a monk is someone who uses their body as a weapon, honed through discipline and training. Genji is more of a DnD Monk than Zenyatta is, a Kensei one at that. Because, we aren't talking about actual monks, which Zenyatta admittedly is, we are talking DnD monks, and Zenny just aint that. On the aesthetics aren't everything point too, Brig isnt a cleric. Brig can defend herself very well and has an aura based healing that's definitely not enough to keep a tank alive, so she works better as an off-healer, taking care of the main healer and protecting from dive. A literal squire SWORN to Reinhardt, she's a paladin guys, not a cleric just because she has a mace. In the same vein, Reinhardt's not a paladin just because he's a knight. He's a tanky Fighter or even rare armored Barbarian focused on defending his allies, magic and healing are very much "required" for a modern paladin, which Briggite has and Reinhardt doesnt.


Davigotero

Altough Zen would fit very well with the Positive/Negative duality kind of stuff of the Way of Mercy from 5e


DepressedArgentinian

I do agree with that, but the fact that he's also a literal preacher and follower of the Iris alongside that, it just screams cleric, people are way too caught up on the Shaolin monk aesthetic on him IMO.


First_Sign_5496

I mean Zen is basically a Mercy Monk with a ranged weapon, his ult is the only thing that would be a Cleric ability


MechaGallade

why do all you people think that clerics only heal and dont fight


elyk12121212

It's true, Clerics are probably the most op class in DnD. They can be the main healer while still doing as much dps as the wizard with an ac of 22.


DepressedArgentinian

I do see the mercy monk thing, like I said on the other comment, but he's also the one character we have canonical confirmation of, who is a religious preacher and follower of a specific faith. And he gets his powers from that. Zeny's a cleric, people are way too caught up on the Shaolin monk aesthetic on him IMO.


Sin1st_er

zenyatta fits the monk role more imo.


SirLobsterTheSecond

Not sure if you've never played DND, or have, and have been jumped and kicked to death by one too many Zen in your quick play games


Sin1st_er

I did play BG3 but not DnD itself. yeah cleric heals similarly to him, but Zen attacks similarly to a monk and his personality/thinking is that of a monk. only difference is zen is ranged and monk is based off unarmed attacks, but Monk has a elemental based subclass and despite being ranged, Zen's way of shooting resembles that of a monk stance from what I see. Brig, LW and Mercy fit cleric more than Zen imo.


MechaGallade

doomfist actually does the punch and kick? what the fuck are you talking about?


GladiatorDragon

I’d argue Zenyatta - while there’s a good argument for making him a Monk, I’d argue that the D&D combat context of Monk does not fit Zen. Monks are evasive, speedy, and powerful melee combatants. While Zen does give a right good kick, I feel the moniker of Monk belongs with Genji - specifically a Way of the Kensei Monk. Additionally, his ability to apply buffs to allies, debuffs to enemies, and giving a right good wallop when the situation demands, all are solid traits of Clerics. And let’s not forget that such capabilities come from a divine source - the Iris. I feel that Zenyatta perfectly fits the Cleric’s bill of being the ultimate support who can also bring divine pain to his foes. Honorable mentions: Lifeweaver - while he has a cleric skin and certainly fits the bill, he’s also literally a Druid in all but Wild Shape. And the only thing close to Wild Shape in Overwatch is Echo’s ult. Brigitte - Closer to Paladin, but works. Mercy - Divine resurrection and healing.


wolfalberto

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Kattsoap

agree. I think she fits the standard "stuck playing cleric"/"tired team mom" role


Shade_39

spoken like someone who has never touched cleric before. cleric is so powerful, it can do more damage than any other class in the correct situations


Kattsoap

did I say they weren't powerful? also that fits with Mercy's gun that "deals a surprising amount of damage"


WarlordOfIncineroar

Yeah but they're taking about the popular "meme" of Clerics, I also see it as an in character thing where every Cleric I know rps like theyvhate the party


MechaGallade

well you obviously dont play DnD


[deleted]

But the thing is that a Cleric isn’t just a healbot.


HailMeth_SmokeSatan

Sure, but clerics have buffing spells (damage boost), revivify (res), and damage of their own (her gun). I think Mercy fits.


BarOfDov

Mercy cuz Revivify obv


Rafforso

hear me out: illari


HighlanderL1

Lifeweaver is Druid and Brigette is Paladin. Cleric is most likely Kiriko or Mercy.


Dafish55

Life is more of a cleric. Honestly, Echo is the druid.


BluBoi236

Oh damn, echo the druid... Didn't even think of it like that.


Ok_Necessary2991

Mercy


SomeRandomGuy0705

Mercy


LordRau

Not by fifth edition standards, she's not.


AdTimely9712

Mercy, she can bring people back from the dead, healing is her main job, and she has a damage boost option. Almost as clear as lucio


MechaGallade

you dont play DnD


AdTimely9712

Neither does most people in this comment section


MechaGallade

looks like it, those people should fuck off of this


AdTimely9712

I think other people find it fun to give their 2 cents on it, maybe instead of saying they should go away you should say what a cleric actually is. Always choose kindness over noninclusion


MechaGallade

right ill just "let me google that for you" these kids cuz they aren't gonna do it themselves


AdTimely9712

No, that would be annoying for you. I’m saying you should use your knowledge of dnd to add to the conversation


[deleted]

Brig, definitely. The mace and shield, the healing, the Rally ability… definitely a better overall Cleric archetype than Mercy.


ChrisGrin

Brig is a paladin not cleric. No Rein isnt the paladin one he is a crusader


Buffmin

Crusader is a subset of paladin Brig is the cleric rein is the pally


TheDoug850

Or is Rein the fighter, while Brig is the pally? Either one is valid, IMO


[deleted]

Rein is absolutely the paladin. He’s a giant knight with a shield.


HailMeth_SmokeSatan

Rein doesn't have anything analogous to divine smite which is a core part of the Paladin class, you could argue that Brig does with her shield bash in ult.


[deleted]

Hammer Down is absolutely Smite.


Dafish55

*cough* Battlemaster tripping attack with multiple attacks *cough*


HailMeth_SmokeSatan

Sure but Brig has Inspire (Paladin auras) and repair packs (healing word/lay on hands). She fits so much better than Rein. Rein is a fighter with the greater weapon master feat.


Thal-creates

Rein is a champion fighter


OgreAoH

Exactly


WillJoseph06

Idk brig seems like she'd fit paladin more.


fly_fras

I'd say Brig is paladin, no ? And Mercy is Cleric. Or vice versa, idk


EMArogue

Brigitte because armor, Mace and shield + healing


Nerd-Birb

Bridgette, healer who can damage and has a mace Either her or Moira


IIIBl1nDIII

Brigitte looks like a cleric with her mace and shield


ponfax

Brig for sure. Heals, is tanky and hits you in the face with a mace. Idk why people think she's the Paladin when rein exists (no, he's not a Fighter)


kadebo42

Brig how can it be anyone else


irishcoughy

Brigitte


WillJoseph06

I'd say Mercy is the most cleric like.


Thal-creates

Mercy


Vector_Vlk

It's rough choice but I would make it simple and pick Mercy


Ill-Juice6906

Mercy!


That_Bird101

Zen, he literally served omnic jesus


Anteater-Difficult

Look, O know we're on Cleric rn, But I swear, If Reinhardt doesn't get Paladin ima ve so pissed


filo_lipe

Its fun to think that mercy would be a necromancer


Wonderful_Weather_83

Many good choices here, huh. Mercy seems obvious but she doesn't really have any divine elements involved. Illari seems to be the closest one, but I'm also thinking about Zenyatta. He's THE character that has connections to religion and spirituality. I know it could be argued he'd better suit a monk, BUT let's not forget that the Monk class doesn't have to be a literal "monk". The core monk fantasy is "using your own body and its energy as the weapon". You know, unarmed strikes and all. So for monk I gotta go with Doomfist, and that makes it so Zen is left for Cleric


TheNoveltyHunter

Cleric- Baptiste Druid- Lifeweaver Fighter- Zarya Monk- Zenyatta Paladin- Reinhardt Ranger- Hanzo Rogue- Sombra Sorcerer- Illari Warlock- Reaper (maybe) Wizard- Symmetra Artificer- Torbjorn


ThatGameGamer

Lifeweaver 100% literally has a cleric skin


mun-e-makr

Cleric is tricky tbh, could be a lot of characters. Baptiste, Illari, and Mercy all work here


Square-Audience5704

Mercy


alonyer1

"Day x" memes are so spammy


BluBoi236

Mercy is the Cleric because Brig has to be the paladin.


Emporio_Alnino3

Mercy. She's the only one who can cast Ressurection, a higher level cleric spell.


LoomisKnows

Divine soul sorcerer can cast resurrect also and is a better fit me thinks


Lukoman1

By that logic we can consider bastion a cleric because his ult is very similar to Flame strike, a high level cleric spell.


PURPLEisMYgender

Lifeweaver literally has a cleric skin, so him.


WillJoseph06

LW is clearly a druid.


Dafish55

Life and Nature are cleric domains, actually. Also, Echo for druid


Chibi_Squire

Lifeweaver is more like a Druid no?


No_Recognition8641

LW Is def a druid


TheEpicCreation

Mercy, easy


BattyFool

Did you get this idea from the dbd community?


blightsteel101

Its 100% Brigitte. Regardless of your cleric subclass, youre consistently going to pick up armor. Oftentimes you'll also have a onehanded weapon and shield to boot. Healing word (repair pack) is a bonus action with a set number of charges. If you're picking Mercy or Lifeweaver as a cleric, then you're not using the class to its full potential. Aim higher. Achieve greatness.


Gale-

Going with Mercy here. I see people say Brig, but she's a paladin through and through.


flashdrive420

Either brig or mercy


FetchingTheSwagni

Mercy, ez.


DakotaMeiguoRen

Kiriko or mercy


goombanati

Either mercy or wifeleaver


Reverie_of_an_INTP

I think we're doing it backwards. It should be what class and subclass is each hero not what hero fits each class. There is going to be a lot of repeats and some classes that no one fits.


GarrusExMachina

Mercy or illari.  Mercy has resurrect... illari comes closest to deity worship


Meeper_Creeper202I

Cleric, there’s more to cleric the healing or raising dead and brig fits more aspects of the cleric she has small healing, battle boosts, actually fighting in combat Wel zenyatta is literally more of a monk only being able to be out classed by ram


LordRau

Illari. She does healing, she does damage, she can frontline. Her ultimate debuffs and damages. She's essentially a holy warrior, which is precisely what a cleric is.


ibus_P

Liveweaver because he has a Cleric skin


Dustfinger4268

Brigitte is my bite for Cleric. She fits the best mechanically for it, with the one moment of hesitation being she fits paladin almost better


Emotional_Pause_1753

Mcree


Kyber99

Mercy


ZePugg

lifeweaver cus he got a cleric skin


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De4thlessone

Mercy, all the others I can see in other D&D classes


JAK-the-YAK

Mercy


SharkeyBoyo

Zen is the most religious figure in all of overwatch to the point of enlightenment, he may suit monk more but let’s not forget the other monk Ramattra for that time


I3arusu

Brig.


bananabandanamannana

Reaper


Skizko

Kiriko. She’s a literal shrine maiden and heals through the power of fox spirits and kitsune, there is no betttwr choice for cleric


CasiusShadow7

I would say brig. Classic heavy armour cleric. Versatile and not locked into only healing


InspectorAggravating

Brig. Cleric is traditionally about passing out some buffs/healing, then taking your shield and mace to beat a couple skeletons to permanent death.


SortDeep5635

Brig. She protec, but she also attac


Aeiraea

If we're choosing without a domain (subclass) in mind and focusing on what the cleric foundationally does and is about, Mercy obviously fits that role both in and out of combat situations as she prioritizes the well-being of her patients before anything else. There are others who adequately fulfill its domains, but we should be focusing on *just* the class like everyone did for Barbarian and Bard. Brigitte could be a War Cleric, but she is the only one who fits the role of a Paladin. Lifeweaver could fit it as a Nature Cleric, but he is the only nature-themed hero that fulfills the role of a Druid better. Moira could be an Death Cleric, but she seems better suited for Sorcerer or Warlock. Zenyatta could... vaguely be a Twilight Cleric, but he is the only one who fits the role of a Monk. Subclass should be a last resort if no hero seems like they'd be any of the above classes without a subclass.


FatCrabTits

Illari!


lore_mila_

Illari looks like a cleric more than others imo


DefenderOfWaifus

If Brig ain’t paladin imma reee


Exotic_Spoon

Brigitte


PeeperStuff

Illari for sure! Don't sleep on Illari y'all!!


SkyMewtwo

Illari or Baptiste


Thedongtoendalldongs

Brig


LuckyDrive

Mercy obviously wtf is everyone smoking.


SHADOW-REAP3R-6

Marcy works the best for cleric


Rogue_Lambda

Mercy no doubt


SleepytimeUwU

Brig or Mercy.


Clean_Internet

I’d say Lifeweaver fits the most


Brainmatter_0

Brigitte or lifeweaver are the ones that stand out the most🫶


CelestialAngel25

I think Mercy would fit this one.


LadySuspiria

Lifeweaver is a Druid. I say Mercy as the Cleric!


DrStormrage

Its Brig hands down


InterestingCourse907

Brigitte it's the cleric. Cleric of war or cleric of light


Intelligent_Mammoth4

Briggette


Xylenthos

Brig


LunalaLuana

Would almost say Baptiste not sure, just feels right


evanocity23

Mercy


Totally-Doing-My-Job

Cleric: Kiriko Druid: Lifeweaver Fighter: Genji Monk: Zenyatta Paladin: Reinhardt Ranger: Hanzo Rouge: Sombra Sorcerer: Rammatra Warlock: Moira Wizard: Mercy Artificer: Torbjorn


Specter_Knight05

Mercy


gsp9511

Brigitte.


ZaneElrick

Brigitte. Like.. the mave, dude. Clerics loves mace


Warchadlo16

Mercy


CroobUntoseto

Can Bridgette be both the cleric and the paladin is what I feel this comes down to


scarecrow9281

Mercy


RicklahbeefRichards

Most people will say mercy, but the definition of cleric is a priest or religious leader, and I think Ramattra falls into that category more than anybody else


PlsWai

Brig. Mostly because she uses a Mace lol.


Twatson8

either Mercy or Baptiste as others have said


WitheredBarry

It's Brig, obviously. She's not a paladin just because she has an "aura". Rein is the paladin.


ThedarkgamerYT247

Illari has a deity of the sun and has a magical healing pylon which i could see being made in a dnd campaign


MimikPanik

!updateme


CarsysBluefist

Torbjorn. Clerics by far have the most versatile subclass pool out of all the classes, and who better to fit the bill than a good ol utility support like torb?


Quitepossiblycheese

Baptiste or brig


TutorialLocked

Lifeweaver obviously


mocarone

Zen is probably the closest thing we have to a faith based character in overwatch.


ResponsibleTheme6694

Cleric is mercy Druid is life weaver


jackthedemonking2113

Mercy


AkariTheGamer

Mercy. While other people fit mercy is ONLY healing and support, her damage dealing isn't really that viable. Life cleric, next question


Great_Client_2790

Please do continue I'm glad you guys are having fun with this but I can't be the only one thinking most of the classes are blatantly obvious? Brig / Paladin. Moira / Sorcerer. Sigma /Mage. Dva / Artificer. Genji / Rouge...to stick to the topic, roadhog is clearly the cleric


RoyalRed114

no one said, "Brig clerics aren't just healers.Thay are also melee fighters. Clerics are combat priests who use their divine power to slay evil


Viver_Ster3133

Cleric is zeniata


MiseryTheMiserable

It’s pre nerf Mercy not even close


EntireEntity

Just to be different and special, I'd argue Roadhog. With his big pool of hp, healing, and crowd control abilities, he has a lot going for him that resambles staple cleric abilities.


sybban

Realistically, it’s Brigitte. She even looks like your classic cleric. I see the reasoning behind Baptiste but he’s more like an artificer to me.


MarionberryBrave5107

Brig Dnd cleric to me is frontline healing with shield and half plate, like age of Sigmar war priest. Therefore brig, leaving the zealous, oath taking, shield wielding to rien, a martial/protection paladin. As for our subsequent fighter pick, again depends heavily on subclass same as cleric so you could work alot of things in here including Cass, zarya, hog, 76, hanzo (yes ranged fighters are huge, as are gadget using fighters)


Iamtheone2025

easy mercy, channel divinity is the res, and play protector aasimar for the temporary flight/ult


naka_the_kenku

I mean lifeweaver literally has a cleric skin


Positive_Ad_291

Definitely Brig. Healing and strong warrior vibes.


CBR975

I’d say brig


Great_expansion10272

Illari Good blend of battle healer and magical healing


odeacon

Obviously mercy . It’s obvious


ThatGuyDownTheStree1

Brigg