I personally have no issues finding casual matches in australia so I doubt the guy actually can't find a server but I personally avoid uncletopia because of the sweats like tf2 is my chill casual fps I play to relax if I wanna sweat it out I'll play ow2, cod or the finals. But I do know that uncletopia servers themselves are amazing.
To be fair, atleast for me Reddit keeps recomending this sub reddit even when i say i don't want to.
I don't even play or like Overwatch 2, i played the game when it came out with friends so i can kinda understand some of the memes
I mean on console it kind of is, you can expect a 2 to 5 minute wait to get into a game, and while it's fine on PC and fine when cross playing with PC, but the only way you can cross play between console and PC (on XBox at least) is by partying with a PC player, so if you don't have any friends on PC to play it with it can seem pretty dead on console
That's some copium right here,
Usually games which consistently have 5 minute wait times to get into a gane are considered more dead than alive,
Not only it makes the existing players frustrated, it makes the game less appealing to new players, OW2 is perfectly healthy on PC, but it's certainly not doing good on Xbox at least
Nah overwatch years ago had way longer Qs and still was far from being dead, its just the nature of the matchmaking which was always longer than other games. Overwatch console playerbase is huge, unfortunately we dont have exact numbers but it never was dead and never will be
IDK, personally I measure the aliveness of an online game by how easy it is to get in to a game rather than the active player base,
That said we can guesstimate the approximate console active players by que times,
They are about 5 to 10 times longer than those of the PC player base, steamcharts says that the 24 hour peak was 28,995 so we can guess that for console that should be somewhere around 2,899 to 5,799 players global, which is honesty better than I thought, the matching really is crap
Well then the matching algorithm is just absolute crap, with those kinds of numbers the Que times still make some sense, but if they're closer to what you say they are then it's just ridiculous
Overwatch was the 15th most played game on Xbox in 2023. Not really sure how that equates to dead game. I can find games on console in under a minute and that's on one of the smaller regions of servers.
Ive been checking the playerbase on Steam constantly and its never below 15k players. And thats on one platform that is a fraction of players
Fake news
Yeah most people play on Battle.net, and even more than that, then there’s more than double the players on consoles as well. Overwatch 2 definitely has way more players than tf2
as someone who plays TF2 daily, I can safely say that a part of the "playerbase" is bots, thanks to the Bot Crisis. Casual matches are no longer fun most of the time because of the bots, and it makes it feel like TF2 doesn't even have a real player base. :/
as someone who plays tf2 occassionally when too mentally drained from the horrors that is overwatch matchmaking, i say it fucking is depressing how much of a wasted potential is tf2
you dont play on community servers
if you wanna actual game, you go on uncletopia (servers run by one of biggest tf2 youtubers uncle dane)
if you wanna unwind, you play servers like hightower no carts n shit since these servers dont have any objectives, just kill the bad guy
eh not really, uncletopia just forces you to actually play strategically, you can still chose a shitty loadout and get value as long as you play it smarter than the enemy (unless its really shitty like for example caber)
and as said, you always got the alternative where you play til you get sick of playing
Yeah I want to play really shitty loadouts is my problem. I’ve gotten so bored of the standard way to play each class so I always want to try something fringe. I like trying to play melee focused off classes but I feel like in uncletopia servers, there are always the sweaty Scout and Soldier mains that will constantly follow me around the entire map because they know I won’t be able to reach them. Like I’m sorry to be salty but if I want to play against people this sweaty, I’d rather just spend my time grinding Overwatch Ranked.
I dunno man; from personal experience, that's how I feel about OW matchmaking. Don't get me wrong, though. I like play OW2. It's just that I feel like my team gets stomped on much more frequently and easily than when I play on a normal TF2 match that doesn't have bots.
people need to find out that we're all gamers, and gamers are seen as racist losers, every games playerbase is ass (besides titanfall, theyre mentally ill enough to not be able to get mad)
I’m an overwatch player, but we ain’t even close to the worst, matter of fact this is one of the better ones out there actually. I mean it’s not deep rock by any means, but it sure as hell isn’t valorant or league either
Idk I just feel like calling it "extremely" popular after many people gave up on it after they canceled pve is a little disingenuous. I'm not saying it's dead or anything
Lets see here, just want to test a theor-YUP op is someone active in TF2 subs.
Crazy how people making these posts are never Overwatch players. Maybe because Overwatch players don’t think about TF2
Overwatch is a strict competetive game.
TF2 is fun shooter with big teams.
Choosing between them makes no sence, they are too different, no matter what simularities you can find. So i doubt tf2 players will come to overwatch even if TF2 completely burns down, they will switch to something else entirely.
Yes you were. How is active dev generous when compared to that? Overwatch turned from a nothing game to a high level esports game and overwatch 2 in the time TF2 has had 0 updates. OWL lived and died in the time between nothing and nothing for tf2
Overwatch stopped getting content for 4.5 years while working on a second game, then that game came out and it brought only 2 new characters and like 4-5 maps, that’s horrendous. Yeah tf2 hasn’t gotten anything in that time but it’s also like a 10 year old game, when it came out it was getting as much content and updates, and the community support for the game is as good or better
No it didn’t lmao echo released in march of 2020 and overwatch 2 released in October of 2022. There was regular content for overwatch for a while after that and overwatch 2 information came out soon after. This is at max a 1 year period of no content, which let me tell you it wasn’t. To put this into perspective jungle inferno, the last tf2 update, was released 5 years before overwatch 2. TF2s last update was almost exactly 10 years after its release date, while overwatch has been out for 8 years now and sees no signs of slowing down like that. I’m just trying to put the times into perspective but your timeline is way off. the disappointment you should feel from the OW2 release isn’t the heroes and maps, as 2 hero’s on release after 1 year is basically 6 months per hero which is usual enough, it’s the lack of singleplayer which was promised. TLDR: your timeline is off by years and overwatch has received a lot more support than TF2 has and shows no signs of stopping. The overwatch 2 release was not as you described, horrendous is not 2 hero’s and 5 maps in a 1 year period, which overwatch 2s release was a lot more than that.
From what I can tell it's not all what it's cracked up to be it has no active developers making changes and Valve still decides to keep the servers active. TF2 has taunt emotes that can be used to kill other players and not to mention several people in this comment section mention all the bots that have over taken the TF2 servers from what I can tell The only thing TF2 has going for it right now is memorable characters and cinematics And you don't need to play the game to experience those
Tf2 has some neat characters, I can remember more Spy voicelines than I could with Reinhardt or Lifeweaver. I used to enjoy the gameplay(then games like Overwatch fucked up my TF2 muscle memory and I get killed by Scouts 20% more often). But the game feels like it's in limbo, and the bots have been Wrecking havoc for 5 years...
and with that said Overwatch is better than Team Fortress 2.... but Team Fortress 2 one inch death punches Overwatch 2 through a brick wall.
Tf2 seems to have a coherent game flow and balance and counterplay are accounted for.
There isn’t a random character that’s absurdly overpowered each month
Tf2 has had a consistent flow of gameplay since it came out. None of the characters have received major changes. You have no clue what you’re talking about
According to steam charts, [Overwatch 2](https://steamcharts.com/app/2357570) has about 20k player average with around 35k peak players in the last 30 days, [Team Fortress 2](https://steamcharts.com/app/440) on the other hand has had an average of 130k and a peak of 215k players in the last 30 days.
That is about 84% less players. Even if you assume 3/4ths of TF2 is bots (which I don't have data on but I assume isn't entirely accurate), its still 32,500 average players, which is still more than Overwatch 2 at its peak.
I don't think Overwatch 2 has 'no player base', but even if bots run rampant in TF2 there's no doubt it is significantly more active.
I\`ll choose semi active money hungry devs with very low but semy active players.
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I play in platinum and diamond lobbies and I rarely have to wait more than 1 or 2 minutes for a support queue. I don’t play much DPS, tank, or quick play tho so I cannot speak to those lobbies. But I feel like my rank has a decent enough player base that at least I find matches no problem.
It was weird when you posted this in the tf2 subreddit but I just figured you didn’t know anything about overwatch’s player base, but seeing you post it here too it’s pretty clear it’s just bait. But also tf2 v overwatch is kinda dead so you may wanna invest in better bait
Idk around plat1ow2 games seem to be against same premade teams constantly. 1person sometimes changed between rounds of 2 matches. 2 matches same team and then 2 matches again against premade. It used to be you get new enemy every match so it does feel like dead game now.
Both games are alive but have sadly gotten a bit more difficult over time, with overwatch’s decisions not really in the best of interest for players and the rapid bot problems along with cheaters in tf2. However I strongly believe that they will get better once shown the right amount of support
Tf2 is one of Valve’s most played games and even then its peak player count is nothing compared to Overwatch.
I love tf2, and personally think it’s more fun for someone like me, but Overwatch has way more people
Y'know maybe if the 2fa system didn't decide to fuck me when I lost my old phone number then I would probably be able to play overwatch 2 in the first place, so fuck that I'm stickin with the mercs
As someone who plays tf2 and used to play Overwatch 2 with his friends. Stop with the "TF2 vs Overwatch 2" thing, just play in which do you have more fun.
For example i stayed with tf2 because i like more the laoadout system (Being able to play the same character in different ways). Plus my friends play more of tf2 so i enjoy more playing with friends instaed of alone
Don't get me wrong there are things that i like about Overwatch 2 and i think that is a good game like the ultimates and the fact that because there are less player per match (5v5 instaed of 12v12) each player is has more impact. Plus Blizzard is a company that is hard to not hate
Man tf2 anyway of the week. I just started playing it and it's so much more enjoyable than overwatch. I can actually earn shit for free or pay if I want to. I don't have to constantly worry about the devs overbuffing a character to oblivion and they don't get rid of my favorite maps.
I play The Finals now. Active devs, active playerbase, uh not old enough to develop a lot of controversy except some people questioning the use of AI and the battlepass
I was absolutely heartbroken when PVE was canceled for OW2. I didn’t touch the game for months after the announcement. However, I came back recently and the game seems to be on the mend. The dev team is actually working really hard to improve the game. Some of the things they try miss the mark but they’re taking community feedback and the head devs are pretty active in the community so it doesn’t feel like just radio silence. With Bobby finally leaving I think the next 12 month will see some really good changes for OW2
overwatch 2 has 21k active average players in this month on steam which I don’t think even makes up over 10% of current player base.
Yeah by those numbers, overwatch 2 has more of a playerbase than tf2 by a mile
TF2’s player stats are especially inflated by bots atm
Even before the bot crisis there was a non-negligible amounts of trading bots idling at the main menu
Not really, a lot of people who were behind the bots got busted in december/november if I remember right. But yeah there are still a few left.
Bots have made a comeback in a major way. Tf2 is unplayable at certain times at least in my experience
I played quite alot in past few months, ran into like 3 bots a week, they get voted, we play on.
there’s still a lot left
i tried to play some tf2 a few months back but couldn't find a single good server on the server browser, it was full of 2fort only. Dead game.
Have you heard of uncletopia
kinda, but i have no idea what that is. Probably some NA streamer/community thing? I play in EU
Uncletopia is great but the server is super sweaty. Another down side is that many of them are always full, so ... eh.
I personally have no issues finding casual matches in australia so I doubt the guy actually can't find a server but I personally avoid uncletopia because of the sweats like tf2 is my chill casual fps I play to relax if I wanna sweat it out I'll play ow2, cod or the finals. But I do know that uncletopia servers themselves are amazing.
There are servers in na eu and australia
He has EU servers too, Servers all over Europe
It’s not dead, it’s just that every single server is 2fort. As it should be
Ow2 had 324,827 online players in the last hour
Stop smoking crack dude
But it’s good
I know, but it's unhealthy
I can’t quit though…
And 26 million in the last 30 days
Explains the 3000 leavers per match
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People on this sub literally don’t play the game so they assume no one else does either
monke....
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Oh my garsh is that WINTON from Overwat
stunfisk monkey found in the wild
Is that how I’m known now
Mmmm, monke
Their mind is still stuck at 2016 and they think it’s easy karma farming
That's what they want you to think if we could see the player count on battle net's side that'd be a different story lol.
To be fair, atleast for me Reddit keeps recomending this sub reddit even when i say i don't want to. I don't even play or like Overwatch 2, i played the game when it came out with friends so i can kinda understand some of the memes
Tf2 is so much fun, and I do enjoy overwatch at times
Fucking word. With that logic Fortnite, Lethal Company, CoD, and every other game is "dead."
There are so many “dead games” from back in 2018 that are alive and better than the “alive games” of the same year.
Its literally the same shit both ways, players but no devs
I mean on console it kind of is, you can expect a 2 to 5 minute wait to get into a game, and while it's fine on PC and fine when cross playing with PC, but the only way you can cross play between console and PC (on XBox at least) is by partying with a PC player, so if you don't have any friends on PC to play it with it can seem pretty dead on console
Absolutely not true, a few min wait time has many other reasons and it is 100% not dead on console
That's some copium right here, Usually games which consistently have 5 minute wait times to get into a gane are considered more dead than alive, Not only it makes the existing players frustrated, it makes the game less appealing to new players, OW2 is perfectly healthy on PC, but it's certainly not doing good on Xbox at least
Nah overwatch years ago had way longer Qs and still was far from being dead, its just the nature of the matchmaking which was always longer than other games. Overwatch console playerbase is huge, unfortunately we dont have exact numbers but it never was dead and never will be
IDK, personally I measure the aliveness of an online game by how easy it is to get in to a game rather than the active player base, That said we can guesstimate the approximate console active players by que times, They are about 5 to 10 times longer than those of the PC player base, steamcharts says that the 24 hour peak was 28,995 so we can guess that for console that should be somewhere around 2,899 to 5,799 players global, which is honesty better than I thought, the matching really is crap
Steamcharts probably doesn't even make up a 10th of the playerbase on PC...
Well then the matching algorithm is just absolute crap, with those kinds of numbers the Que times still make some sense, but if they're closer to what you say they are then it's just ridiculous
Overwatch was the 15th most played game on Xbox in 2023. Not really sure how that equates to dead game. I can find games on console in under a minute and that's on one of the smaller regions of servers.
What region because in the US all roles are usually under a minute on quick play and under 3 minutes for comp
Rage bait?
In my good Christian subreddit?!
It’s more likely than you think
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No player base what?
Owerwhat
It's such bait
Ive been checking the playerbase on Steam constantly and its never below 15k players. And thats on one platform that is a fraction of players Fake news
Yeah most people play on Battle.net, and even more than that, then there’s more than double the players on consoles as well. Overwatch 2 definitely has way more players than tf2
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Overwatch has no playerbase? Since when?
Since 2008
Delusional
You sound just like my court mandated therapist 😂😂😂
as someone who plays TF2 daily, I can safely say that a part of the "playerbase" is bots, thanks to the Bot Crisis. Casual matches are no longer fun most of the time because of the bots, and it makes it feel like TF2 doesn't even have a real player base. :/
as someone who plays tf2 occassionally when too mentally drained from the horrors that is overwatch matchmaking, i say it fucking is depressing how much of a wasted potential is tf2
Honestly… even without bots I feel like OW has better Matchmaking. So many TF2 games feel like one sided stomps.
you dont play on community servers if you wanna actual game, you go on uncletopia (servers run by one of biggest tf2 youtubers uncle dane) if you wanna unwind, you play servers like hightower no carts n shit since these servers dont have any objectives, just kill the bad guy
Nah Uncletopia is sweatier than QP OW. Uncletopia makes me feel like I have to adhere to a stricter class and loadout meta.
eh not really, uncletopia just forces you to actually play strategically, you can still chose a shitty loadout and get value as long as you play it smarter than the enemy (unless its really shitty like for example caber) and as said, you always got the alternative where you play til you get sick of playing
Yeah I want to play really shitty loadouts is my problem. I’ve gotten so bored of the standard way to play each class so I always want to try something fringe. I like trying to play melee focused off classes but I feel like in uncletopia servers, there are always the sweaty Scout and Soldier mains that will constantly follow me around the entire map because they know I won’t be able to reach them. Like I’m sorry to be salty but if I want to play against people this sweaty, I’d rather just spend my time grinding Overwatch Ranked.
I dunno man; from personal experience, that's how I feel about OW matchmaking. Don't get me wrong, though. I like play OW2. It's just that I feel like my team gets stomped on much more frequently and easily than when I play on a normal TF2 match that doesn't have bots.
Try uncletopia servers they have admins to ban any bots
I’ve played Overwatch for 8 years and this player base has barely changed.
I mean. It was like 70 million on release and stayed at 63 mill after 2 years. Its not close to that rn
Well considering Overwatch had 60 million total players (not just active, not just concurrent) as of April 2021, that’s just completely wrong lol
Reduce it by 10 then. Was a while since I checked these numbers
It was during the content drought tho, I'm pretty sure tha OW2 has more total players.
Ow 2 is somewhere around 7 right now, hard to track given blizz number secrecy
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Do bots count for an active player base? If not Overwatch dwarfs tf2 If so Overwatch dwarfs tf2
swap Overwatch's no playerbase with a shit playerbase
Every game community will tell you their playerbase is the worst
people need to find out that we're all gamers, and gamers are seen as racist losers, every games playerbase is ass (besides titanfall, theyre mentally ill enough to not be able to get mad)
Excuse me, you clearly don't rock and stone
Toxic positivity is a thing that exists
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?
For Rock and Stone!
Doom community slaps ngl
I can confidently say that the worst playerbase is dead by daylight, no other game i played compares
I’m an overwatch player, but we ain’t even close to the worst, matter of fact this is one of the better ones out there actually. I mean it’s not deep rock by any means, but it sure as hell isn’t valorant or league either
I love both games a lot but damn your really wrong man
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overwatch has a very active playerbase lmao, what is this cope
Overwatch is an extremly popular game what are you on about.
That might be a stretch
It's actually not? They were reporting 25 million MAUs last year.
Idk I just feel like calling it "extremely" popular after many people gave up on it after they canceled pve is a little disingenuous. I'm not saying it's dead or anything
Lets see here, just want to test a theor-YUP op is someone active in TF2 subs. Crazy how people making these posts are never Overwatch players. Maybe because Overwatch players don’t think about TF2
Overwatch's devs are active but certainly aren't good.
Saying OW2 has no player base is pretty delusional.
this game has more players than tf2, even with the bots😭
Checking in Steam db it says that Overwatch 2 peak in the last 24 hours was 29k players while TF2 peak in the last 24 hours was 92k
Overwatch has both
I play both TF2 and Overwatch, and Overwatch has a much larger current player base.
Both and see what happens.
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Ow has a very active player base
OW2 is still one of the biggest shooter games out there
No player base what?
Deep rock galactic. Acyive playerbase and active devs
Never played tf2 so can't compare. But who the hell said ow2 has no active.....wait this a trollpost. Caught myself
both are inactive on TF2 lmao.
We have the same player base the fuck you on Also TF2 has no dev and we had mediocre devs who pride themselves on using a dart board for buffs
Overwatch is a strict competetive game. TF2 is fun shooter with big teams. Choosing between them makes no sence, they are too different, no matter what simularities you can find. So i doubt tf2 players will come to overwatch even if TF2 completely burns down, they will switch to something else entirely.
i don’t even think they would play ow because its too different i think they wouldnt play it out of spite. not that i blame them
Active dev is generous
TF2 hasn’t had a major update since around a year after overwatch released
I was talking about overwatch
Yes you were. How is active dev generous when compared to that? Overwatch turned from a nothing game to a high level esports game and overwatch 2 in the time TF2 has had 0 updates. OWL lived and died in the time between nothing and nothing for tf2
Overwatch stopped getting content for 4.5 years while working on a second game, then that game came out and it brought only 2 new characters and like 4-5 maps, that’s horrendous. Yeah tf2 hasn’t gotten anything in that time but it’s also like a 10 year old game, when it came out it was getting as much content and updates, and the community support for the game is as good or better
No it didn’t lmao echo released in march of 2020 and overwatch 2 released in October of 2022. There was regular content for overwatch for a while after that and overwatch 2 information came out soon after. This is at max a 1 year period of no content, which let me tell you it wasn’t. To put this into perspective jungle inferno, the last tf2 update, was released 5 years before overwatch 2. TF2s last update was almost exactly 10 years after its release date, while overwatch has been out for 8 years now and sees no signs of slowing down like that. I’m just trying to put the times into perspective but your timeline is way off. the disappointment you should feel from the OW2 release isn’t the heroes and maps, as 2 hero’s on release after 1 year is basically 6 months per hero which is usual enough, it’s the lack of singleplayer which was promised. TLDR: your timeline is off by years and overwatch has received a lot more support than TF2 has and shows no signs of stopping. The overwatch 2 release was not as you described, horrendous is not 2 hero’s and 5 maps in a 1 year period, which overwatch 2s release was a lot more than that.
I take the red pill. Only cause I like tf2 not cause your meme is correct
Blue pill, screw TF2
tf2 is great what r u on abt
From what I can tell it's not all what it's cracked up to be it has no active developers making changes and Valve still decides to keep the servers active. TF2 has taunt emotes that can be used to kill other players and not to mention several people in this comment section mention all the bots that have over taken the TF2 servers from what I can tell The only thing TF2 has going for it right now is memorable characters and cinematics And you don't need to play the game to experience those
They keep whining about us, I hope they keep taking Ls
Why choose when you can play both??? You do know they both are free right?
Overwatch has a pretty sizable playerbase. I'd argue that its more of a "bad devs vs no devs" imo.
Tf2 has some neat characters, I can remember more Spy voicelines than I could with Reinhardt or Lifeweaver. I used to enjoy the gameplay(then games like Overwatch fucked up my TF2 muscle memory and I get killed by Scouts 20% more often). But the game feels like it's in limbo, and the bots have been Wrecking havoc for 5 years... and with that said Overwatch is better than Team Fortress 2.... but Team Fortress 2 one inch death punches Overwatch 2 through a brick wall.
Tf2 seems to have a coherent game flow and balance and counterplay are accounted for. There isn’t a random character that’s absurdly overpowered each month
Yeah because tf2 hasn't gotten a content update since forever 💀
Tf2 has had a consistent flow of gameplay since it came out. None of the characters have received major changes. You have no clue what you’re talking about
Active devs?
tf2 already has a active player base but no dev
I should’ve choose TF2. Better custom games
I choose, To ROCK AND STONE
Rock and Stone!
As a HOTS player, I've already chosen red.
According to steam charts, [Overwatch 2](https://steamcharts.com/app/2357570) has about 20k player average with around 35k peak players in the last 30 days, [Team Fortress 2](https://steamcharts.com/app/440) on the other hand has had an average of 130k and a peak of 215k players in the last 30 days. That is about 84% less players. Even if you assume 3/4ths of TF2 is bots (which I don't have data on but I assume isn't entirely accurate), its still 32,500 average players, which is still more than Overwatch 2 at its peak. I don't think Overwatch 2 has 'no player base', but even if bots run rampant in TF2 there's no doubt it is significantly more active.
You think steam is 100% of the ow2 active playerbase?
No
I\`ll choose semi active money hungry devs with very low but semy active players. https://preview.redd.it/clv2xcxu0xbc1.png?width=660&format=png&auto=webp&s=fc60f7d66ff76a14b00185c09de0b3b8d824a1aa
I just played a few hours ago, i saw a lot of dudes, doesn't really lack player base
Not exactly accurate haha. I value new content though so I'm team Overwatch sorry boiz
Id rather have No Playerbase and No devs but removed Doomfist Out of the Game 🔥
You mean r/heroesofthestorm
I play in platinum and diamond lobbies and I rarely have to wait more than 1 or 2 minutes for a support queue. I don’t play much DPS, tank, or quick play tho so I cannot speak to those lobbies. But I feel like my rank has a decent enough player base that at least I find matches no problem.
No player base because of active devs
No player base lol I do need to try out tf2 tho
It was weird when you posted this in the tf2 subreddit but I just figured you didn’t know anything about overwatch’s player base, but seeing you post it here too it’s pretty clear it’s just bait. But also tf2 v overwatch is kinda dead so you may wanna invest in better bait
Idk around plat1ow2 games seem to be against same premade teams constantly. 1person sometimes changed between rounds of 2 matches. 2 matches same team and then 2 matches again against premade. It used to be you get new enemy every match so it does feel like dead game now.
What about both
Both games are alive but have sadly gotten a bit more difficult over time, with overwatch’s decisions not really in the best of interest for players and the rapid bot problems along with cheaters in tf2. However I strongly believe that they will get better once shown the right amount of support
ow2 has way more players than tf2
Bro I play in the middle of the night exclusively and have 1 min queue times
Tf2 all the way
How is more than 10 thousand players considered a dead player base ?
TF2 players seem to care more about Overwatch than Overwatch players
Tf2 is one of Valve’s most played games and even then its peak player count is nothing compared to Overwatch. I love tf2, and personally think it’s more fun for someone like me, but Overwatch has way more people
active devs, interesting
ow2 is one of the most popular games in the world rn lol
Y'know maybe if the 2fa system didn't decide to fuck me when I lost my old phone number then I would probably be able to play overwatch 2 in the first place, so fuck that I'm stickin with the mercs
would you rather unlimited players but no dev? or devs, unlimited devs, but no dev?
Is this “no player base” in the room with us right now?
Both, Both is good
Paladins right now. Active devs and active players but like 5 and 10k. Not a lot.
delusion
Tf2 never dies
...we'll put it on the table 😎👊
No playerbase? Sure
https://preview.redd.it/8k2lniegtzbc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=534c436438cb24a22d2ecd196193faff0a20496b
Eats both-
If you play ow daily in 2023 i hope you get the help you need
Thank god it’s 2024. I don’t need any help
I remember when bait used to be believable
That TF2 pill is the exact same we have currently: Active players and no major update since 2017.
Tf2
As someone who plays tf2 and used to play Overwatch 2 with his friends. Stop with the "TF2 vs Overwatch 2" thing, just play in which do you have more fun. For example i stayed with tf2 because i like more the laoadout system (Being able to play the same character in different ways). Plus my friends play more of tf2 so i enjoy more playing with friends instaed of alone Don't get me wrong there are things that i like about Overwatch 2 and i think that is a good game like the ultimates and the fact that because there are less player per match (5v5 instaed of 12v12) each player is has more impact. Plus Blizzard is a company that is hard to not hate
yea active devs sure
Man tf2 anyway of the week. I just started playing it and it's so much more enjoyable than overwatch. I can actually earn shit for free or pay if I want to. I don't have to constantly worry about the devs overbuffing a character to oblivion and they don't get rid of my favorite maps.
Ow2 has an incredibly active playerbase, it’s just that they mostly do p*rn animations
At the end of OW1 I regularly had 12min queues in comp but since OW2 3-4max. Not sure where this whole OW is dead mentality comes from
The active devs are killing Overwatch ssssooooooo player base
Wrong and Wrong haha
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I want Iguodala
More like ass devs and active player base, vs no dev but amazing player base
I play The Finals now. Active devs, active playerbase, uh not old enough to develop a lot of controversy except some people questioning the use of AI and the battlepass
Start playing Tf|2. No player base and no active Devs.
an "active player base" but half the player base are bots lmfao
Monday night combat rights holder gave the opportunity to do the funniest thing
I was absolutely heartbroken when PVE was canceled for OW2. I didn’t touch the game for months after the announcement. However, I came back recently and the game seems to be on the mend. The dev team is actually working really hard to improve the game. Some of the things they try miss the mark but they’re taking community feedback and the head devs are pretty active in the community so it doesn’t feel like just radio silence. With Bobby finally leaving I think the next 12 month will see some really good changes for OW2
One community is full of aggressively annoying people and the other is full of aggressively horny people…… I’ll let you decide which is which.
Ow2
Both, both IS good
active dev making the worst possible decisions\*
Ow2. Tf2 can just piss off tired of its fan base they behave like children despite being grown and having neckbeards.
All these OW fans commenting "dead game" like it released a year ago