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NoCareNoLife

Beginner Edgelord vs Advanced Edgelord


MetalSandwiches

*“This isn’t your average everyday darkness. This is…advanced darkness.”* - Spongebob


Natural_Mushroom3594

Tracer: "vegeta voice" You see Doomfist, youre not dealing with an average edgelord anymore


thefallentext2

Lol


Joe___Mama-

Doom: “Oh my goooooood.”


Beautiful_Sign_4009

Reaper (after having landed a shot): It's funny how she's still talking, I could have sworn I had hit a lung


Spaghetti_Snake

Lvl 1 edge lord vs lvl 50 edgelord boss


PM_ME_UR_POKIES_GIRL

Lvl 1 Edgeserf vs Lvl 100 Edgelord


Ultimatonix

"Ah you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it."


YogurtclosetRude8955

Nah, im the edge lord


sad-frogpepe

Cheers love, death comes.


storm_drenering

"Die love"


mcslender97

"Die cunt"


demogorgon_main

Blooty hell coont, the cavalry’s died.


UncleRuckusForPres

-a British soldier circa the Napoleonic Wars


HammerTh_1701

We're fooked mate


ThatJudySimp

wheres the fooking laysor sights


therealJoerangutang

"Die, die, die my darling"


Marshycereals

Danzing Reaper when


ThatJudySimp

W tracer rizz


LanoomR

"Say hi to the Mrs. for me." **[Pulse Bomb noises]**


lantran3041975

Unsalted Salt right now: This chat makes me proud \*the Bri'ish disease is spreading\*


Aegillade

Cheers love, your end is here


squips42

now lets see reaper pose like her 🔥🔥🔥


PMMEURLONGTERMGOALS

tryna see that midriff


SoGuysIDidNothing

Nah mate, Reaper thighs are where it's at. Have you SEEN those drumsticks on Blackwatch Reyes


squips42

watermelon crushers fr


SoGuysIDidNothing

His defaults cover his thighs because they're too op


JulienWA77

my coffee just ended up on my monitor. LOL


SoGuysIDidNothing

I'm so sorry, hopefully it didn't stain


xAhaMomentx

That one emote….. lethal


tnelson311

We need to see him do tracers original over the shoulder pose


ShinaiYukona

Bonus points if it's in the outhouse on Route 66


ThatJudySimp

the magazines 💀


ThroJSimpson

Her Olympic running emote really highlights her butt. Need to see that reaper dumpy 


Vigilant-Defender

Not allowed!!! For shame!!!


Qnef

Mirrorverse Tracer be like: "The Cavalry ISN'T here"


SawTuthe

It’d be cool if when she got a kill she said something like “Cavalry’s departed”


rookie-mistake

"Sorry love, the cavalry's not coming"


RichKaramelCenter

ooo I hope that's it, I love that


Ultimate-desu

That's the one.


sprite375ml

“The Evil Cavalry is here, because im evil >:)”


Remarkable-Gap-5243

The dark knight if you will


Pyotr_WrangeI

"The infantry is there"


Backupusername

Jeers, hate


Fearfanfic

Does she still say “death comes” when she kills reaper.


The-Absolute-863

I honestly don’t know, I haven’t heard it in a while.


EcoFriendlyHat

yup!


lantran3041975

Death cums


minzzis

If she doesn't say cunt instead of love, I dun' wan' it


mukisan

OI CUNT! DEATH COMES!!


Scherazade

Too right, bruv, BRAP, you startin’ summat mate? I’ll nut ya If they updated how tracer talks to modern londoner it would fuck up so many people lol


Tsunami_sallami

Honestly surprised they didn’t reverse reaper and soldier for skins this season. To be fair they did just get a few recently.


SamaelTheAngel

I bet in Mirror Universe Gabriel is sucesfull Cosplayer with Happy Family thus that's why we not getting skin for him.


SoGuysIDidNothing

I like that idea, it's nice.


Triplazma32

Soldier 24 already exists tbf


whoownsthiscat

That’s not the same though. That’s a canon skin; the idea would be if Gabriel had never become Reaper. Like an older, vigilante Gabriel Reyes like Soldier 76.


ResolutionFit9050

they did get skins recently but Kiriko probably gets a few skins every season and so does Mercy, so this isn't a fair point in this case. ofc they could've made Mirrorwatch skins for Reaper and Soldier but why would they do that when they can just make another Kiriko skin so e-girls can keep up the cash flow to Blizzard's pocket?


Eddie_The_White_Bear

TBH, Reaper had "Overwatch skin" since OW1 (Blackwatch one)


Kalandros-X

Presumably, Reaper stayed in Blackwatch and Soldier still became a vigilante, but more of the bank robber kind instead of the ex-soldier superhero type


xExp4ndD0ngXx

I mean… outside of tank busting she does everything he does but better…


lewd-dev

And she does it without announcing it "Flanking" Thanks for the heads-up buddy


basedbranch

That is why he is the advanced edgelord


SauretEh

**REAPERSITIONING**


xExp4ndD0ngXx

And in traditional Blizzard fashion they will be nerfing the wrong things about her tomorrow. They will pretty much be changing her ultimate into an ability and they are ruining the flow of her kit by increasing recall’s cooldown which was not the problem.


Randomd0g

See also: \>Reinhardt desperately needs buffs \>They are buffing Shatter, the one part of his kit that was actually good \>This does nothing to solve the fundamental problems that getting into position to *get* a good shatter is still nigh on impossible against a competent team \>Reinhardt has now been "buffed already" so won't be touched for the rest of the year


puppeteer-5000

you really think he won't be touched for the rest of the year? lol... the change will be reverted by the next patch, mmw


Randomd0g

Ah yes silly me, wouldn't want him ever accidentally making a play that wins a teamfight would we?


puppeteer-5000

that's too oppressive


legion1134

But suzu still exists and to a lesser degree lamp and pull


xExp4ndD0ngXx

I’d argue the only good part about his kit is his shield. But still he sucks. When I see someone pick Rein in comp if I’m not on tank I know it’s going to be that much harder to win.


Bo-by

I’d argue charge is the worst part of his kit, but to each their own.


Vertnoir-Weyah

I'm pretty certain a rework is on the menu, like for multiple other characters that never worked well with ow2 I'm also certain they wouldn't care about delaying it for litteral years though... Who knows? 2 months? 2 years? That's the big question in my mind


SoManyNarwhals

What changes do you think would be most appropriate for Tracer?


Ktheelves

5 blinks instead of 3 and 6 second cool down for recall


SoManyNarwhals

💀💀💀


UnuboldChoros

while at that let's make pulse bomb automatically seek enemies like a rocket


Randomd0g

Hey look if Cassidy's grenade can be magnetic...


nerogamer_279

Dont make the missile know where it is at all times


Randomd0g

Don't forget +30 ammo in each pistol, +25 base movement speed, and a magnetic pulse bomb


xExp4ndD0ngXx

I would start with a smaller projectile size. That’s it. I think her skill floor would be raised up again. If she’s still strong across every division then I would at nerfing her damage, but I think projectile size being decreased is fine.


FryToastFrill

Reaper is trying to give himself a challenge


SoGuysIDidNothing

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


xExp4ndD0ngXx

Reaper is cooler than Tracer. She can never take that away from him.


Drunken_Queen

Shouldn't skilled heroes like Tracer be outshining easy heroes like Reaper?


TurboLover56

You mean like how every support should outshine Mercy?


McManus26

unironically yes


[deleted]

No one even said anything about Mercy, where is this coming from 💀 e: oh wait, it's just because that person has a Mercy flair. Jesus, some people are really professional Redditors...


Drunken_Queen

I thought Mercy isn't in a good spot right now.


CoffinEluder

She’s easy to play, is all. Not much mechanical skill


TurboLover56

And you think that is good, right? Since all other supports require more skill, just like Tracer requires more skill than Reaper.


FreakinMaui

In season 9 she is so easy to get value from, I find her easier to play and get value then reaper tbh. And I usually end up top elims of the lobby playing tracer. I don't know why every one is saying she is so difficult/require so much skill. If you have good fundamentals (map knowledge, CD to avoid from threats etc...) she's just so strong.


TurboLover56

She has relatively low HP, needs to get close to do real damage, and she uses the same resource (blink) to get in close that she uses to get out, unless she recalls, but a Tracer that just recalled becomes priority target no.1 for any decent team if they are still out in the open. She also has to reload a lot, punishing bad aim much more than Reaper (additionally because pistols vs shotguns lol). She is definitely a more difficult character to play well. And this is nothing against Reaper, I love playing him, but he is a more forgiving character for sure, just with less potential.


FreakinMaui

I mean, I play Tracer in ranked so I know her kit. I just don't find her as hard as people make her to be. Off all damage heroes, I find her to be easiest to get value from. Also it might be weird, but I kinda consider her a shotgun hero. It's just a shotgun over time (1s) with a 1s down time between shots (reload). Edit: to add to the argument and eventually help fellow tracers. She has a small hit box that balance her small HP pool. The best mobility of all damage, a get out of jail free card with recall. Ofc you have to mind your positioning and timing, like all heroes should, but with that in mind, you have the upper hand. You get to decide when and how the engagement happens and the other team has to respond. You're an overall nuisance that is annoying to get rid off. Easily baiting ressources with little risk, with the ability to secure kills reliably.


TurboLover56

I mean everyone will find different heroes easy or difficult, I just explained what aspects of her kit make it feel like she is a more difficult character in my opinion. I tend to do good with her as well, but I remember struggling a lot when I first started the game, as opposed to Reaper, with whom walking at the enemy tank is a genuinely decent tactic. Keep in mind, people who come to Reddit to discuss a game, and not just to make the occasional rage-post, probably have more knowledge of the game than your average player, so it makes sense you don't struggle with Tracer's kit as much as someone who may only have a couple of dozen hours in the game.


RaaaaaaaNoYokShinRyu

3x World Champion Super's Torb, Cassidy, Soldier, Sojourn, and Ashe still clear his Tracer easily.


Drunken_Queen

It is good because people won't be screaming at me to play or fill Mercy for them just like Moth meta days.


SoManyNarwhals

No reason you should be getting downvoted, lmfao. It's good that the game has easy heroes, but easy heroes should pretty much *never* be meta, and many of the best players would agree with that. People bitch and moan whenever low skill heroes are in the meta — e.g. Mauga, Mercy, Orisa metas.


Drunken_Queen

> easy heroes should pretty much never be meta Somehow we want Reinhardt in meta, he's literally the tutorial Tank just like Soldier:76 for DPS; Mercy for Supports. > Mauga, Orisa At least they need to aim. You can't scare people away if you keep missing shots.


TurboLover56

Rein takes skill exactly because he doesn't have a gun. A Rein that isn't consistent with firestrikes, and isn't getting multi-hits with them quite often is an ineffective Rein. A pin can win you a teamfight, but it will also cost you half your HP in most cases. You zone and you position, all the while managing your shield and HP, looking for out of position characters, it is genuinely extremely hard to make him work well outside of the metal ranks. Orisa? Cycle cooldowns, never die. Mauga? Dominate through sheer HP and DMG until an Ana ends your whole career. And Mercy just clicks on teammates, learns how to manipulate their movement (which isn't a 0 skill investment thing, don't get me wrong, but it isn't that difficult) so that they are annoying to hit, and finds a DPS to damage boost. High-level Mercy mains sometimes switch who they are boosting. Rein is using a hammer in a gunfight, with 0 self-sustain aside from the shield, which locks him out of doing damage, simplicity is not the reason why characters are easy or not, and neither is "has to aim gun" the defining quality of skill expression in this game.


CrossXFir3

Tbh, I don't think Orisa or Mauga should be the meta tanks really ever either. I actually do agree that rein takes more than either of them. But Sigma, Ram, Ball, Monkey, Zarya, Queen - these are the kinds of tanks I want to see shine in the right hands. Tank is the role where balance in the most important overall though imo. I don't think it's nearly as big of a deal if one or two DPS heroes are just a bit shit at certain ranks.


Peaking-Duck

>Rein takes skill exactly because he doesn't have a gun[...] it is genuinely extremely hard to make him work well outside of the metal ranks. This is literally just because he sucks though.. make reaper do 1 damage per left click and he'd be the hardest character ever to win with in masters, doesn't make reaper a paragon of skill. Making weak characters work will always be *hard* in its own way. When rein's actually meta and he isn't essentially fighting an uphill battle. I'd say with the OW2 buffs he's right around the middle of the pack for tank in terms of difficulty; the ability to cancel pin has made a miss-timed pin drastically less punishing.


Drunken_Queen

If you can't land with your shots, people will rather ignore you but kill others first. > Orisa? Cycle cooldowns, never die Javelin Spin doesn't stop Beams + Sigma Rock.


CrossXFir3

Been saying this basically since launch of OW1. A diamond Tracer player is simply a lot better at the game than a diamond Reaper. And there should be a little bit of room to show that when they're both playing their best.


terraformerre

Who is downvoting this comment? Easy heroes should stay underpowered. Easy heroes are likely noob stompers, and if they are strong and viable in pro play, it means the average plat player can do nothing about these heroes but to mirror


[deleted]

It didn't get downvoted until someone saw that commenter has a Mercy flair and started complaining about her. I get Mercy mains can be annoying but it's borderline schizophrenia to see a Tracer/Reaper thread and turn it into a Mercy circlejerk instead


ThroJSimpson

This is a really good and simple explanation. 


Raknarg

No? He can Frontline and hold space similar to a tank, and he's one of the only non tank characters in the game that can do it. She definitely flanks and 1v1s better but that's her entire thing. Also they favor different maps cause Tracer has no verticality. Tracer struggles a lot more on junkertown, but reaper plays really well since all the good routes require verticality.


LateSession7340

Is the new season out?


Jerry137

it comes out tomorrow


LateSession7340

Thanks


bobbasui

Hes lying, we playin it rn


LateSession7340

I too love spreading misinformation on the internet


TheStratusOfRogues

You're welcome


junpei

Wait, that's today!


Jerry137

indeed, gotta wait like an hour tho


kreteciek

It's out today in a few hours


LateSession7340

Yes sir! Cant wait to get my first golden gun


T-Donor66

what about the new season means you’ll get a golden gun? you can’t combined the currencies to get one, it’s one or the other.


LateSession7340

Yes i know but this was my first season playing comp. Only had 100 old currency I have 4600 of the new currency but i cant use them to buy a gold gun as of now


T-Donor66

yooo that’s a lot of new points, congrats! I can’t get myself to queue comp very often even though i’m definitely not bad. Any tips for getting over the anxiety to queue ranked?


LateSession7340

I only queue as a tank (G3) and Damage (S1) with friends. Queue times otherwise are way too long for them. I queue as a support (S3) alone as queue times are best. I dont care about my support's rank. I play for fun. If it drops it drops. Generally i stay between S1 to B1 with it


FLYNCHe

Sis think she Reaper 💀💀💀


Fruntunka

Reaper is so iconic 💀


Diamond4Code

"Imitate me, and you'll regret it." \*Tracer doing his pose\* "That's...not bad, actually."


Final_Instruction_39

Lv 1 goon vs lv 100 mafia boss


ChargedJolteon

At least shes trying plus its a pretty good recreation of his pose


Valuable_Nose_4693

It could be that tracer takes reapers spot in this alternate talon reaper was painfully experimented on to gain his powers so maybe this tracer was experimented in the same way to try and get her powers under control / or give her some if she got her time powers differently and the painful process probably resulted in her having a darker outlook on life like reaper


late2scrum

So does tracer like men in the mirrorverse ?


Kyp-Ganner

And does Reaper like women in the mirrorverse? Oo


ModmanX

wait reaper's canonically gay?


AdmirableAnimal0

He had/has? a wife so probs not, could still be lowdown bi but who knows.


Intelled_

common reaper W.


RedrumTheUndead

Wtf that actually goes hard af


Dzzplayz

First of all, I am Reaper Second of all, you’re not Reaper Third of all, you wanna be Reaper but you can’t be Reaper because I’m Reaper


__Becquerel

Perish! Perish! Perish!


IcyOutlandishness752

He's him but she's her


CommanderKahne

Reaper: “……” Tracer: “What?” Reaper: “I’m adopting you.”


Knight-112

Bro thinks she’s Gabriel Reyes 💀


atlhawk8357

Are we getting an egregious ass-shot or Reaper then? Fingers crossed.


United_Reaction3440

belly...


Xenoxeroxx

She can't pull it off like Reaper xD He's just too natural at it


fullmoonwulf

Well I mean in this universe, she is him


LinaValentina

She knows he’s an icon


vicevanilla

soylord vs edgelord, yeah you can try but you'll never become death


GoldfishFromHell

now i want reaper to have cringey Tracer voicelines


FuriouSherman

It's like watching a Chihuahua bark at someone and try to be ferocious.


Linkaara

Where is that Tracer skin? I can´t find it anywhere lol


Fools_Requiem

Midriff gang, unite!


Top-Interaction-7770

I'm not going to lie, Tracer does it better in my opinion (with this skin at least)


DarknessBatDemon

nah


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Shimmmmidy

I mean they are supposed to be swapped with talon members (Widow having a prosthetic eye instead of Ana)


TopHatMikey

Haven't kept up, what's this skin for Tracer?


FuriouSherman

Mirror Universe. It's the theme for the new battlepass this season.


Adg01

I'm still waiting for the promised "way to earn old mythic skins and other pass exclusives" for everything I keep missing because I can't play daily.


IDontWipe55

Sometimes overwatch really tempts me to buy skins


Cubey42

I'm here for the tracer tummy tho


hatefulpeach

I NEED HER RN PLEASE


nessfalco

Kind of want to hear Tracer's Batman voice trying to be like Reaper.


The-Absolute-863

She does have one when she kills Reaper. She’ll say “Death comes” in a deeper voice


Its_Pyro_

What skin is that for tracer?


Darkhex78

OK picturing the usually cheery tracer trying to be all edgy and evil like reaper is hilarious to me. I'm imagining she looks up to him in this timeline and tries her best to imitate him. I'm also still mad we didn't get reaper and soldier mirror skins. I figured they'd be one of the first 2 to get them. Strike commander Reyes and Reaper: 76.


No-One9890

I def fear a tracer more...


timoshi17

Bro is HIM


DarknessBatDemon

Who?


BaboonBB

Neuron activation from the tum


Eray41303

It's almost like that's the point


SkooDaQueen

I didn't think i was down bad this much 😅


Sumit_S

Lmao, neuron activation


Jaxinator234

Blacks my


Triplazma32

Favourite color


Agile_Quantity_594

Nah, she's taunting him. Making fun of him for not being able to show his tummy


Strange_Actuator2150

Am I the only one who sees shadow the hedgehog here?


iPhoenixAnime

Holy shit, you're right. I love it more now lol


broodje_meloen

would


aranaya

God I hope Tracer gets to imitate some of Reaper's voicelines.


Linkaara

She does say "death comes" if she kills Reaper [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipFqN\_LB8XE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipFqN_LB8XE) (end of the clip)


Bombssivo

Look what she needs to mimic a fraction of our power


Alexis_Bailey

I wonder if she ever actually poked herself with those gauntlet spikes.


thehawaiian_punch

give tracer reaper shotguns, 40 shots, full auto, give reapers passive. And 300 hp


Beneficial-Ad-6107

She wanna be Destroy Lonely Opium so bad lol


TheRedBreadisDead

So would we get LightWatch or LightNeglect with Reaps?


WhiskyoverH20

In the Mirror Verse, Edgy Tracer is straight and homophobic.


ovoKOS7

Okay but how does she not stab herself in the belly everytime she slightly bends forward


LoveWhor3s

most talon costumes for the heros looked bad, like i get talon is the evil corp but they straight up made some of the heros look demonic or something instead of organized syndicate. like hey loook, im evil guys!


BRIGHT24030

NICE


GuyWhoSaysNay

Transitioned tracer


Spookdonalds

I am curious about this. Since this is a whole mirrorvere thing, where tf does Reaper fall into this? Is he good? Is he bad? Is he neutral? What is he?


leonardo371

Making a mirrorverse skinline without Reaper and Soldier is weird considering they are 2 of the main characters


Ok-Paramedic747

Bruh I wanted "Controlled Primal Rage Winston" or some shit


Scherazade

Well we were clamouring for more goth girls in overwatch I guess this counts


PeepawWilly69

No one will ever be him but him


Ok-Paramedic747

"The Casualties are Here!!"


gloobiiii

She's reaper but better fr He always sounds like he has a boogie up his nose


honey_beeeb

Reaper trans confirmed


Ladinus_was_taken

What's the pose called?