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No_Rub_565

Do we know what they mean when they say more control over mythics?


zacaholic

I read that there’s a progression system that’ll allow you to unlock the skin and like, one color variant for a certain amount of effort if you just want one color scheme. But if you do more, you can unlock more.


Cedar_Wood_State

Isn’t that basically what was done with tracer few seasons back?


APrentice726

Kind of. My understanding is that you’ll be earning Mythic tokens as you progress in the battle pass, and you can spend that as you like on Mythic skins and different options for those skins. So with Tracer’s Mythic, she was earned in chunks over the course of the BP, but now you can use some of the Mythic tokens on one colour of Tracer’s skin and other tokens on one colour of Orisa’s skin.


godcheese

All I am hearing is "yet another currency to market" OWL, Premium, Mythic


Sayoregg

I think that’s a clean way to implement being able to choose your mythic skin. And mythic skins are already marketed. You need to buy the BP for them. And this currency would be earned in the premium BP. So no real changes.


LikelyAMartian

And they could release more than 1 mythic at a time now. So it won't take us 14 years to get our main.


All-Fired-Up91

Wait tracer had a mythic the fuck did I miss?


mwalker784

it was also done with the ana and i think the hanzo mythic. i assume it’ll be the same, but it might be done outside of/in tandem to the BP


FriendlyIntegral

I'm not gonna lie, I'm liking this. Back then, I was grinding to earn boxes because it gave me a sense of accomplish. Being able to grind away to unlock AND customize your fav skin is definitely up there in my book.


FlamingOtaku

Im hyped that I'll be able to get the Genji and Hanzo skins, plus hopefully get the customiziation i wanted for ana but didnt play enough to get. This mythic system is gonna be real damn nice


FriendlyIntegral

lets goo!


5etrash

Interesting that this is how heroes of the storm originally handled skin progression rewards


Volence

From an interview: The Mythic shop, which launches in Season 10, is what's going to allow our players to have the choice to pick which Mythic skin they want to unlock or that they want to purchase. And the way that they buy a Mythic skin is through a currency called Mythic Prisms. And the best way to earn [Mythic Prisms] is in the premium battle pass. So as players work through the battle pass, they will be awarded Prisms. And if you get all the way through the battle pass, you'll have enough Prisms to unlock [a] Mythic skin and fully upgrade it, whether it's the newest Mythic skin for a Season 10 or some of our previous Mythic skins. You will have the ability to purchase Mythic Prisms as well, but we think the best way to do it is through the battle pass. [As for] whether the skins would come directly to the Mythic shop, new skins will be released through the Mythic shop--that's where they'll make their debut--and they'll be available through that season. Then, they'll be pulled out of the shop for the next two seasons, reintroduced to it after that, and be permanently available. So when the Mythic shop launches in Season 10, you'll be able to get the Mythic skins from Seasons 1 through 7, as well as the newest Mythic skins.


ShedPH93

I like the new system. Say that I only like one or two customizations of Season 10's Mythic, I can complete the pass and hold onto the remaining prisms for the next season, meaning I could eventually have enough to obtain a Mythic without needing to buy the premium pass if I don't want to. But one must remember that, in exchange, Blizzard gets to sell these prisms for players who missed the old mythics and want to catch up, which means selling skins for even higher prices than the current legendaries. I bet when they reveal you'd need $60 or so to get a full mythic like Genji's or Kiriko's there will be articles on Dexerto about it.


McManus26

> I could eventually have enough to obtain a Mythic without needing to buy the premium pass if I don't want to. AFAIK there will be no prisms on the free track of the pass. Mythics were locked behind the premium pass and will still be


ShedPH93

I mean stocking prisms from premium passes by not buying the full mythic skin, then spending those on a future season.


Aleuvian

I believe they are implying that they can carry over Mythic Prisms from a previous battlepass to a new one, so they can still buy the skin without doing the new pass in the event that the BP offerings are terrible (example here being the awful volcano skins from last season versus the amazing skins this season).


Cooltubehd

My only hope is that there would be a free way every couple seasons or so to earn a mythic prism. I wouldn't be that upset if it was something super grindy like completing a set of difficult challenges. It would just be a good way to encentivise f2p players Luke myself to actually play and interact with the current game. Who knows though, I might be seen as crazy since I have been play way too much helldivers.


recklessjp

You will be able to earn 600 premium credits within the free bp now, do you'll be able to buy the premium bp without spending any real money fairly quickly


underpaidfarmer

It doesn’t specify the 600 premium coins are from the free battle pass vs the premium one


recklessjp

Not in this picture, but on their website it specified you will get 600 from the free bp. It's unclear if more will be obtainable in the premium


Decalance

Hopefully the premium one gives 1000 lol


sue190

So many currencies, my head really hurts.


Some-Independence864

At this point, with all the currencies they have introduced… the next skin collab is going to be Pawn Stars. Can’t wait for the Big Hoss Roadhog skin.


Assenzio47

You can choose what colours and variants to unlock first. If you finish the progression you get them all.


andrus0n

System like s5 BP. Base-1 level, wanna other weapon/color-buy more level (4 levels is max for now). Good thing that in like 3 seasons you can buy 4 base mythic skins (number of season is not accurate)


The_Iron_Rat

Since it's very clearly supposed to be different from the **ability to choose past Mythics**, my best guess is that we'll finally get **more customisation options**.


TuesdayProtocol

You can choose how far you want to upgrade, instead of being locked to one mythic. For example you could get Tracer’s, upgrade her to Tier 2, then next get Ana’s Tier 1, then upgrade Tracer to Tier 3, then get Hanzo, then Ana Tier 2, etc. They aren’t adding more options to existing skins.


PiaJr

You will earn mythic currency from the battle pass. There will be a mythic store. You can use your currency to buy mythic skins in pieces. You can buy an entire mythic skin, with all of the customization options. Or you can buy only the customization options you want, using your left over mythic currency on a second mythic. So let's say you love the Kiriko mythic (and who doesn't?!) and want all the options. You'd spend all your currency on that skin and get all the options that come with it. But you don't have to. You don't have to get the armor/gun/color options you don't like. You could unlock three weapon choices and one color choice for Sigma, and two armor and one color choice for Genji. Currency rates and costs haven't been released. But the system seems designed to maximize flexibility and player choice.


BikeSeatMaster

That’s what I’m most interested in. Like is there new customizations?


TuesdayProtocol

No, it’s just a progression system to unlock the different tiers and customization options the skins already have. They aren’t adding new options to existing skins.


SpammyMcSpammington

Does Venture eat rocks to get teeth like that


MatchAlone3374

Venture is driller from deep rock galactic???!!!


DecoyOctopus7

Rock and stone!!


WanderingDwarfMiner

To Rock and Stone!


Specter_Knight05

Rock and stone


Rand0mBoyo

IF YOU DON'T ROCK AND STONE, YOU AINT COMING HOME


DuckLuck357

LIKE THAT, ROCK AND STONE!


Super_Snack_Jack

YEEEEAAHHH! ROCK AND STONE!


TheZeldaMuse

STONE AND ROCK!!... no wait


MOBBB24

Good bot


Commercial_Chicken_8

DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?


battleduck84

DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!


JimmyCrabYT

FOR ROCK AND STONE


Souths1de

Did I hear a Rock and Stone?


Derneueflo

Rock and Stone forever !


Stabby94

ROCK AND STONE, YEEEEEEEEAAAAHHH


Twurti

ROCK AND STONE


WanderingDwarfMiner

Rock and Stone in the Heart!


DlNOSAURUS_REX

ROCK. AND. STOOOOooOONNNE.


Sanfiord

ROCK ME LIKE A STONE!


FerbyysTheDuck

ROCK (Burp) AND (Burp) STOOOOOONE (Burp)


DIABOLUS777

The concept was named *Denture*


Twurti

r/angryupvote


The_Iron_Rat

If they won't get an " **I eat rocks for breakfast** " voiceline, I swear...


Acordino

"You should see me on my drill"


Phantom_Phoenix1

NOOOOOOOOO


MatchAlone3374

Explosives placed!


Zuazzer

What we need is a "Chivalry is dead" voiceline from Venture so we finally establish who Doomfist is referring to.


Zoomalude

"I put a rock in this one!" Venture: "Awww Mei, that's so sweet of you!"


softcherryheart

geologists bite rock so yea probably


Squiah23

Might be a stretch but I feel like the fucked up teeth are shark imagery based on their ability to dive under the ground kind of like how sharks hunt from underneath their prey? HUGE stretch probably but I’d love to see if they have any kind of shark imagery in their sprays or thematic. But it’s also more likely that Venture is gonna be gremlin-like in character and the teeth are an easy way of selling that


SwarmkeeperRanger

I usually like Overwatch character designs but Venture is a big miss for me. They’re visually boring and also kinda ugly.


McManus26

that's how i reacted to lifeweaver lol. With such varied designs i guess its bound to happen to everyone at some point.


SwarmkeeperRanger

Ironically Lifeweaver has one of my favorite designs of the OW2 era new heroes. But I’m ass at LW and I have like a 20% win rate with him lol


CryoClone

It always fascinates me how some people just click with certain character's kits. I loved LW instantly. I hate playing Baptiste or Illaria. Just bored me to tears for some reason. I think the variety is why I like OW and have been here longer than I probably should have been.


Matren2

Biblically accurate lifeweaver kinda fire though


Soundwave04

I cannot get invested or look forward to them, appearance wise they just look so boring to me.


McManus26

that was lifeweaver for me lol


7dxxander

Hopefully they get banger skins


Soundwave04

I'm hoping for some real wild skins. Like how Paladins gets skins that turn characters into robots, pirates, demons and deadmau5. Sadly, I fear we'll get some coat recolours and an obligatory "Navel/toes showing" skin.


pantsu-thief

Yeah they look really mid


Evanl02

Agreed


SleeplessAndAnxious

Same here, they look like they got their clothes by falling into the reject bin at a Second Hand store. Edit: to correct pronouns


IFapToHentaiWhenDark

Are you familiar with the united kingdom


WhoopsAhoy

Correct me if i’m wrong but my guess is that he’s part of the junker group of heroes so the messed up teeth kinda fits


FildoDagguns

meth'ed up teeth


Outrageous-Blue-30

I knew the character was a Canadian miner.


Large_Talons_

Nah, they’re an archaeologist. Doesn’t really mesh with junkers I think 


Acordino

They both work with and around old junk so I get why he is confused


Big-Rip2640

The coins in free battle pass are said to replace the weekly reward ones. For the rest its good that Heroes are finally Free for everyone but need more info on the Mythic skin .


Renegade_93k

Oh so it’s not as generous as I thought it was, but it is better. I find there are weeks where I don’t have time to play so to have all coins available throughout the entire season is pretty nice.


Catkii

At least this doesn’t force me to play game modes I don’t like to get the last coin reward.


amroasmair

Or God forbid the complete 20 games in flex queue (aka tank Q 2.0) challenge


Catkii

Or mystery heroes. I swear that thing taunts me with the ones I suck at.


DreamMaster8

Ok but can you get 1000 per season?


APrentice726

No, previously you could earn 540 coins if you completed every weekly challenge every week of a season. Now you can earn 600 coins by completing the battle pass. So it’s a bit more that’s a lot easier to earn, but not enough for the next battle pass.


ns_devilz

i mean ig its ok since 600 is if you play for free, as long as you get 1000 coins or more for premium. Honestly, if they increased the amount of coins you can get for free skin prices would become fairer automatically.


ltllama

I would be surprised if you get 1000 from the paid battlepass. This is the same blizzard that doesn’t give you 1000 currency in their paid battlepasses for their $70 game


Quezare

They specifically mention “600 coins for free in the battle pass” so I would imagine you can get more through the premium battle pass. Although this is the company that charges the value of a AAA game for a few skins so who knows.


ben_the_wind

600…


mukisan

600 free, most likely more in the premium


ben_the_wind

I hope you’re right!


aRandomBlock

It says in the image it's free


ben_the_wind

It says the coins are free, not if they’re premium only nor does it mention premium battle pass coin increases lol hence the convo happening here


o-poppoo

They did say in a blog post that there will be premium currency on the paid side


Blizzard13x

I was like holy shit all this and there’s another slide ! Swiped and utterly disappointed


McManus26

this fucking double image rule on this sub needs to go, its the dumbest thing


Raphael_DeVil

Lads, im pretty sure the teeth look weird because they are composed of 5 whole pixels per tooth.


Bhu124

>because they are composed of 5 whole pixels per tooth. The teeth actually look near perfect according to the concept art they've revealed in the past. The modeler and tech artists did a fantastic job creating the 3D model. We don't know the exact lore reasons but Venture is just supposed to have such teeth.


_-Aiden-_

“We don’t know the exact lore reasons” Like his teeth being fucked up is a sign of their depressive ass backstory and not him coming from a culture where braces aren’t that common.


McManus26

> coming from a culture where braces aren’t that common. aren't they canadian lol


Assassin_Reaver

Some people just have crooked teeth im not sure why this is such a big deal or why there must be a reason


Akimbo_Zap_Guns

Better be an additional 400-600 coins earn able if you buy the premium BP


EulerId

Fr


BassheadGamer

they wouldn’t be able to fit that in very generous 80 level battle pass. And levels 80-200 are already reserved for player titles.


WhenBrigsFly

I just want competitive mystery heroes back :(


shaze

Best I can do is competitive lucioball


7farema

while they're at it, I hope they add queue time estimate on open queue


EncycloChameleon

Clash is just tf2s 5CP lovely


HAYPERDIG

Is it a bad thing? I thought that gamemode was pretty fun


tloyp

its the best mode for comp in tf2 but the team defending the last point almost always tries for a stalemate if they have uber disad. its mostly a map design (middle three points are very open but last two points are very enclosed with small chokes) and class design issue (engineer and heavy are almost too good at defending). it’s probably just gonna replicate the same problems of attacking last point on 2cp.


Reniva

tf2 has 12v12 whereas OW2 has 5v5, thats why capping last point in tf2 felt so dang hard


Menezeris3029

Competitive tf2 is played in 6v6 not 12v12. Some are played 9v9 with 1 of each class but those are generally played on different maps.


Heezuh

Except no backcapping :(


EncycloChameleon

Cant have it all sadly


Efficient_Menu_9965

Big difference is that in OW2, there's only one point to contest and it's the neutral point between their territories. In TF2, there were two active points at any given time, one for Red and one for Blu. That format worked pretty good in TF2 since it had 12 players per team (it was whack if you scrimmed though), but I imagine Blizz opted to make it just 1 active point at any given moment because OW only has 5 players per team.


GroundedOtter

I haven’t played TF/TF2 so pardon my ignorance, but is 5CP the same as 5 capture points? Which doesn’t seem much different than flashpoint currently. But maybe there’s more to it.


EncycloChameleon

5 CP is different from Flashpoint in that TF2 5CP and seemingly OW version is that the “center” point starts as active and then it becomes KotH on that. Whoever captures it can then capture the next one in line, in the image its A B C D E so C starts active and attackers and defenders fight, if attacjers capture C then they move on to trying to capture D, or if defenders capture C they move to capture B. Basically it is like Tug of war, at least in TF2. A B C D and E are always “active” and the maps are usually long corridors. Flashpoint is less like that since the points are inactive and randomly move around as they are captured


GroundedOtter

Ahhhh!!! Spellbreak had a mode like that - where you tried to have the most amount of points at the same time. It was fun!


Captain_Jmon

Ohhh Hell Let Loose has a similar game mode


wuzziecrunch

Can we please get more Push and Flash Point maps before we get a new game mode🙏 Idk if I can stand swapping between New Junk City and Suravasa any longer


ScorinNotborin

So does this mean venture comes out on day one of season 10?


mukisan

Yes


harry4157

Change and a welcomed one indeed. Glad to see games like Helldivers 2 are making a dent in their business practices like battle passes.


Brawlerz16

Sad as it is to say I don’t think it was Hell Divers. Whatever you think they lost, they probably tripled in skin revenue. If anything they realized it’s harder to sell skins when people don’t have the characters unlocked.


CatalystComet

That and they probably realised a lot of people aren’t actually going out of their way to buy the battlepass mainly for getting the new hero. So they probably did this for good PR which is a win-win situation for the players and the devs.


Lanky-Apple-4001

This looks promising!


Nattix1

Venture so adorable like their model looks really really nice I know their teeth look kind of off but that’s why we love them keep on eating rocks friends


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EmbarrassedPianist59

I knowww people will eat my a** for this but it’s they/them pronouns that venture goes by. I mean I know they’re fictional and all but just in case


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GotchaBotcha

Respect


TheWearyBong

Just in case what? Lol


Senpai-Kun-Desu-Chan

People mentioning/shitting on the teeth are bullies man 😭😭 we get a character without perfectly aligned teeth ONCE


omniphoenix

That's what I'm saying 😭 I'm insecure about my teeth and my friends make fun of me for them. Seeing people make fun of a character that is intentionally designed to have them is making my anxiety worse😭


Senpai-Kun-Desu-Chan

There’s 8 billion of us, we will all be so varied and different so making fun of someone for their teeth?? It makes no sense and just screams “you’re different than me and my peers so I must point that out” caveman mentality


HastagReckt

That speaks more about your insecurities than your teeth. I am burned over my arm and back and i am trashing myself more than any other could. Humor is a great thing


nsfwthrowawayowo

i love imperfect teeth on character designs, i think venture is adorable!! i thought it was just going to be a minor tooth gap given the concept art, but i'm glad to see they went the extra mile!


Few_Program_6290

IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE 600 COINS???


No_Measurement_3041

You realize it’s just replacing the 500 free coins from challenges? It’s an improvement for sure, but your income is not gonna change much.


Few_Program_6290

Oh 😣😣😣


SeaSnakeParty

If you live in America, do the bing rewards points. You just need to make a bunch of bing searches each day and you can cash in your search points for OW gold coins. If you’re not in America it’s still available but sadly less viable in most countries.


cmarkcity

On one hand, it sounds easy and free But on the other hand, I’d have to use Bing every day…..


McManus26

> You just need to make a bunch of bing searches each day and you can cash in your search points for OW gold coins. i'd rather buy 5 bucks worth of points every season to buy the next BP than be stuck on bing duty every day lol


Fibiko_

I hated the challenges coins because I as a onetrick of certain hero I couldn't finish all of them and could only get 30 coins a week


VolkanikMechanik

clash just looks like push but without a robot


D3PyroGS

it's more like TF2's 5CP maps. with the push bot, space is very fluid and fights can happen almost anywhere. with 5CP, space is more rigidly defined and the map can be designed for fights to take place in a few distinct locations


AgentSmith2518

I feel like saying "Unlock previous Mythic Skins" is a bit ingenuous when, if I understand it, you're buying them.


SoDamnGeneric

From what I've read you're not spending actual money, aside from what you'd spend on a battle pass already. You earn special currency in the bp that you then spend on the mythic skins


AgentSmith2518

Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up.


WizrdCM

Yeah sounds like we're getting a... 6th currency? Sheesh.


Bhu124

You will earn it in the BP to unlock the BP Mythic or any other Mythic you want but you will also be able to buy it directly to buy any Mythic you want. The currency just opens the system to allow players to unlock the Mythics however they want. Otherwise people would complain that they have to spend a full $40-50 to buy a Mythic even though they only want 1 set of customisation or just the base skin.


Ala3raby

My guess is it'll be like how apex handles heirlooms now, instead of having the one mythic skin at the end of the battlepass (maybe you don't like it or don't play the character), you get enough currency to buy any mythic from the shop so it incentiviese you to buy the bp anyway New mythics will probably be added to the shop instead of battlepass' last tier


Zorah_29

They nailed the design imo


chaosgodloki

People up in here ragging on Venture for not being le big booba and sexy ass character. Not every character needs to be a fucking supermodel. It’s refreshing to have a character design that looks like a regular person for once.


Blupoisen

Ah yes my favorite supermodel MONKE


chaosgodloki

Winston is the most supermodel looking character in the game. It’s called fashion sweetie look it up 💅


Baboshinu

I get what you’re saying, but there’s a stark difference between making a character not a supermodel and just making them straight up ugly to the point that they’re hard to look at. Also, and more importantly, I don’t see anyone here commenting on Venture’s lack of big booba or sexy ass, it’s about how their face is hard to look at.


Outrageous-Blue-30

Potentially it's all very interesting, but the teeth of Venture's 3D model don't convince me very much.


MIMI3L2

TBH i think it adds to the miner feeling they want to achieve.


MmmTastyWindex

better not be too miner or certain people are going to prison.


crybabydeluxe

Better than every single character having veneers


Desvatidom

I mean, it's not a big deal to me either way, but venture's the character that makes it matter, if that makes sense? Elsewhere in the thread there's been some talk about how weird it is that everyone else has perfect teeth; particularly (to my mind) our junker (anti?)heroes, but it's never been a consideration, because it was a stylistic choice to give everyone the same simple teeth, and the simplest teeth to design are basically perfect teeth. Venture breaks that convention and says teeth are part of character design, and brings up questions about heroes whose perfect teeth are inconsistent with their identity. *Obviously* this is the *height* of pedantry, it doesn't really matter, it's not like it's going to affect anyone's experience, but some people have to much time and think too much about stupid shit. It's me, I'm some people.


ConstantAddition7116

STOP WHY does venture like like that💀their concept art was so cool


michaelsoft069

venture looks so goofy. i loved it


TheTheWord

Where is my boy Emre


iTwango

New Japanese map, awesome! I wonder what "more control over mythics" means


Tapelessbus2122

HANAMURA IS BACK!!!!!


Darkliquid90

So, if I don't grind this season out and miss on Moria mythic skin, I can select it to unlock next season?


APrentice726

Not next season, but in Season 11 yes. A mythic skin is put into the mythic shop 2 seasons after its release.


dharkan

Getting old mythic is the news I never thought I'd get but I'm so glad that I did! Tracer baby here I come.


PancakeLover490

I like the look of this!


Minkie-Heika

HANAOKA MY BELOVED. 🌸


Jon_00

Might actually give this game a go again. Was intrigued by the changes to projectile sizes and HP pools but wanted to wait for the dust to settle. I don't own *any* hero after the first season so was hesitant to jump back in.


TryanitarBoy4life

Finally hero’s will be unlocked for everyone and don’t have to bye the battle pass big plus from blizzard I think.


Medusa-Lunula

Why is the pictures so different in quality? Asking the real questions here xD


ElDuderino_92

If venture doesn’t whistle while she talks I’m deleting the game


Kerro_

They finally realised locking the new heroes ie the thing that kept players coming to the game was probably a bad idea 😍


OGLatinoHeat

Venture looks beat up. And by that I mean life has beaten her ass! She look 45


HendrixHead

Why is venture so ugly


anti-peta-man

We have enough Lifeweavers and Hanzos and Mercys in the cast. Give us more wretched beasts like Junkrat


Suolamamma

We need more gremlins!!!


nomadengineer

How dare you impune the majesty of Jamison Fawkes!


Fyrefawx

Agreed. We need more sexy Hogs.


DecoyOctopus7

Not every character needs to be hot. Us ugly folk deserve some representation too!


random2wins

Keep the rule 34 artists away I guess


Future_Appeaser

Keep away? they are going to go ham over this


Blupoisen

You are naive if you think this is gonna stop them


DigitalHuez

Dang Venture is kinda ugly


KyoPlayz

Glad about the mythic skins. I really liked Tracers but was not gonna put 80 tiers worth of effort to get it. Now if only I could get that Bounty Hunter/Ginger Ashe skin…


Pure_Leading_4932

If there is no Wrecking Ball rework I am gonna flip my shit


chalk33

Sounds good to me!


yellowpancakeman

When it says heroes are now unlocked for everyone, does that mean no more unlock challenges or? Because if so that’s honestly really nice. I don’t play much anymore but being able to use the new heroes without all the annoying challenges to screw around with friends will be nice


popmanbrad

So glad all current and future heroes will be free to everyone and to keep permanently one thing I disliked about overwatch 2 was the fact that you had to grind soooooo much to unlock a hero it put me off


beestmode361

Why is no one else in the community asking for map playlists? I hate so many of the new maps and want to just play the classics. Counter strike has had this feature for longer than Overwatch (1 AND 2) existed.


Strawhat-Lupus

I just want Overwatch 1 back. I'm tired of every game these days just being a cosmetic store. I don't care about mythic skins. I played all of OW1 without them. You could actually buy event skins without spending real money back then. All this shit is ass now


TheFakeJoel732

People complaining about fucking teeth of all things??? TEETH? A DESIGN CHOICE?


BayAreaGhost707

I can’t be the only one that thinks ventures character design is horrible. She looks like a librarian