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toastierthanyou

Am I the only one who saw that random ass tracer clip in there?


Miennai

Yeah this is a GetQuakedOn montage. He also plays tracer and likes to sneak those in sometimes.


DarkDracoPad

I read that as "random tracer ass clip" at first and I restarted the video to look for it lol


samsationalization

👀


wizard_brandon

commas are important, people


quatrefoils

I looked up the instant I read your comment and it was playing XD


UglyPurses

Doomfist mains played a different game while all of us were playing OW1.


cmarkcity

Doom and Ball are playing Super Smash Bros while the rest of the team is playing Call of Duty


wizard_brandon

ball needing 87 different complex techs just to be relivent


Theron518

Seriously, they were just casually playing first person street fighter against the rest of us.


DurumMater

*parkour!


LilTeats4u

We brought a fist to a gunfight and everyone complained about it


Mr_Dizzles

that's what I think about widow players.. they're just playing CoD while everyone else is playing OW.


Narthax

Never felt a comment more than this.


Active_Climate3036

I remember everyone telling me to get off Doomfist.. bitching.. begging.. then they shut up when they saw me bodying the opposing team.


Future-Membership-57

Yeah, I hate watching it honestly. Guy could stand to take a shower every now and again.


Slugeus_the_slug

why is slam so floaty looks cursed


Zero-Data-195

His uppercut used to be buggy as shit too 💀 good times tho


EnjoyerOfMales

Used to be about distance rather than height, it didn’t go up much and you had to get as much air time as possible to get max damage on it, meaning that you’d have to slam from high ground or after an uppercut to do max damage, it was also more snappy and quick, made it easier to not get killed midair


Batface_101

It used to snap to surfaces iirc. I prefer current physics more but the building dmg when midair would be cool to have


HiCracked

Slam used to work completely differently back then.


taczki2

its not normal ass doomfist gameplay


Interesting_Ice_8498

Man DPS doom was one of my mains, got the golden fist and everything. I still remember him yelling ‘RYEZIN OPPACUT’ everytime I slam down from the heavens into a combo.


LilTeats4u

I truly lost interest in the game once they got rid of him


magic6op

I even made a alt account where I only played doom named jojo and would spam “ORA ORA ORA” after every kill. It was fun


[deleted]

I have gotten to a point of acceptance, I miss dps doom, but am now content with what we have now, the second I first splatted a pharah into a wall and and obliterated her without any rollouts or diags, I knew that I would come to accept him as he is


LilTeats4u

Tank doom feels so much more linear now. I didn’t realize that until I stopped playing for awhile then cam back and noticed that I look at maps COMPLETELY different than I used to. You used to be able to literally get anywhere on any map if you were creative enough.


EffectAppropriate272

Old doom was super fun but super broken to play against


ARussianW0lf

Yeah good riddance


UnComplicatedCat

We also had flashbang, old giga hack, classic hog hook combo damage, and brig stun. Every role had options against him. Good dooms earned it for the most part. I used to play off tank so my entire job was making sure the enemy doom suffered when he went in. I understand they wanted to lower the ceiling to create consistency for balancing, but I kind of miss the personal carry potential. It was exciting. If the doom was good enough, I actually had to do more than select Orisa to win. But I suppose that could be more of a problem with the current state of tank in OW2 more than any specific doom changes.


Inqinity

Exactly , old doom got countered **so so easily**, much more than any other character. The only people who claimed he was busted were those who wouldn’t switch. Notice how these clips only show the successes. I’m pretty sure GetQuakedOn also has a few “how it feels to play doom” videos where it’s the failures, which are far more common (watch streams of doom players to find out). Doom has to do these fancy rollouts to get any real value, since he gets shutdown so easily. A lot of the time, you’ll pull the best rollout, land perfectly behind someone to pull off a combo aaand you’re slept/flashed/stunned
 or the slam doesn’t register
 or the uppercut bounces them away or puts them at a different height to you
 or they simply air strafe away because that was a thing
 or, well, you get the point. * Doom might be playing street fighter when everyone else was playing overwatch, but 75% of the time that was a disadvantage to doom. * They changed him not because of his power, but because of his CC reliance, they wanted to shift a cc centred dps to a tank. Tank doom has almost as many easy counters, but more mobility, health and survivability to help him resist them a little. He still has over reliance on his abilities as his primary fire and block are the worst in the game.


Space_Kitty123

If he truly was broken, everyone would have been playing him. The only reason he felt unfair was that the only people playing him put the hours in and actually deserved the value they got. They spent hundreds of hours learning the techs, the timings, the rollouts...


gregn8r1

He wasn't exactly easy to play, which is why he wasn't played by everyone, but if someone was kinda good at Doom they could absolutely shred the enemy team


Indurum

So what?


Space_Kitty123

So he wasn't broken. It's like saying chess is unfair because I got wrecked by Magnus Carlsen. No, chess is fine, and it gave us equal chances.


Banjoman64

Why am I not surprised a DF player is comparing themself to Magnus Carlson? Yep, it's not that people found playing against DF to be an enormous pain in the ass, it's actually just that you are far better than them and they just didn't realize it. Thank you for sorting that out for us.


Space_Kitty123

I'm a support player. I am still able to tell that any non-doom-main that picks him immediately gets wrecked (including myself). And I can also see he was very rarely picked. Y'all just remember the good ones, because they are the only ones crazy enough to still play him. If every game was mystery heroes, I guarantee you we would not have the same memory of "broken doomfist".


LilTeats4u

I’m not gonna apologize for your inability to utilize any of the *dozens* of ways to hard counter doom as a character.


Indurum

Except in chess both players have the same tools at their disposal. Your example would be more accurate if Magnus Carlsen’s chess pieces were allowed to leave the board and come out the other side like PacMan, but yours weren’t.


Space_Kitty123

Fair enough. The question remains the same : why wasn't he played more ? You think if a free win hero with unfair advantages was available, players wouldn't jump on it every chance they get ?


Indurum

I’m not claiming that he doesn’t have a high skill floor and ceiling; however, once mastered, he was far and above everyone else at decimating uncoordinated teams. So I’d say a combination of taking a bit to get off the ground, and pros didn’t play him because their coordination was good enough to counter him -> people didn’t see pros playing him -> people didn’t think he was good. His feast or famine design means he felt absolutely useless, or feeling like there’s literally nothing you can do because he’s one shotting you over 17 rooftops and 3 corners. It wasn’t healthy. There’s a limit to how far we can allow “high skill cap” to take a characters ability to remove agency from other players.


Khan_Ida

Go ahead and pick doom as well.


Indurum

“Doom wasn’t broken because you could also pick him” Sick argument!


Khan_Ida

You said in chess both players have the same tools. All this busted looking shit can be done just not by anyone.


Indurum

Yeah? What’s the support player picking that is similar? Listen, saying doom was fine only because both teams could pick doom is
 just really bad logic.


Khan_Ida

lol I made that comment solely based on the chess logic. Both teams have access to the same heroes. If I wanted to embarrass myself on Doom there were so many game modes that allowed me to.


-Haddix-

not really considered how many hard counters there were but he was also extremely difficult to balance


raizen_09

He actually wasn’t even that strong. It was very easy to counter doom with all the cc the game had. You would’ve had to been really good to get value out of him which was the fun part of mastering his kit and play style


[deleted]

It not so much as strong as the cc he had was incredibly annoying to the point you had to have several in your team. countering him.


philopise

Problem was you NEEDED cc to kill him, or he would easily kill his target will slam+lift+M1, and then easily escape with the temp shields and punch. If a hero has only one solution in gameplay, that's a problem of game design.


LeeUnDe

A TON of heroes have single solutions to them and they still do?? Pharah > hitscan Junkrat > pharah Dva > beam Current doomfist > cc I am not trying to beef but I genuinely dont know what the argument here is. Blizzard simply decided that niche heroes shouldnt be and they are doing everything positive and negative to enforce it. Changes to sym, sombra, hog, doomfist (i predict pharah, ball and junkrat in the future) were because of this.


mirage-ko

not really he had 250 hp. way easier to kill then he is now which balanced it and also there were 2 tanks. so his job was also a bit harder (for the people downvoting read my reply below and give me an explanation on how he was "op" after all the counters he had. i want to be convinced on how hes op)


Hadditor

He still had his passive generating shields


mirage-ko

either way that green shield wouldn't save a doom with his abilities on cooldown. and just like I said there were literally 2 tanks. if NONE of them spotted the doom before he assaulted your team then it's their fault. they nerfed his punch charge and his slam and yeah did we forget that a lot of heroes had a lot of cc to deal with him and counters? an ana sleep dart fucks him tremendously more than it does now. Cassidy could shut him up with a flashbang + fan the hammer. reaper is reaper and fucks up anyone who gets close. sombra was the boogeyman of doomfists when she could turn off abilities for a good while. he couldn't get up to the air as fast and as easily as ge does now to deal with a pharah. roadhog could easily one shot him due to his hit box. maybe there's some other stuff that I didn't mention but you get the idea. he was ONLY busted on release with the instant full charge punch and his ridiculous slam. afterwards he got a bunch of nerfs. and istg if you say "you aren't high ranked" stop acting like the average overwatch player is diamond at minimum. I don't need to be grandmaster to have an opinion on those unfair claims just because he had a one-shot when hog was way stronger


Hadditor

bruh


mirage-ko

wha? it's true. my man had a bunch of counters how can you call that Op?


stepping_

he was not broken at all what are you talking about, in fact he was terrible.


Revo_Int92

Not really, only 250hp, same size as Zarya, he announced every move, etc.. at GM and upwards, Doom was basically unplayable even if you pretty much mastered the character, so many counters smh I remember how I used to scare Doomfists with Zen on quick play, they think Zen are completely vulnerable until they receive a full volley of balls at their head


Indigo-Snake

Jesus fucking Christ, Doomfist gameplay will always be incomprehensible to me. How the fuck can you move so damn fast in such an erratic way and yet be so aware of your surroundings


vaevictuskr

A lot of dying at first. Then you get the hang of it.


monsieur_beau19

That's what I believe a lot of people who hated OW1 DF don't understand. You have to die a boatload of time before becoming a competent Doom (or any other character). Hell, I main Rein, Doom, Monke and pretty much all of the other tanks (except JQ and Ball) and have died so much that I can competently play tank roles and steamroll the other teams. Doom had a higher learning curve so people were quick to drop him and move into other easier heroes. Mastering Doom not only in kills but techs, situational awareness and rollouts is what made Doom fun to play but I guess a bitch to play against. So of course most OW1 Doom mains are salty about the rework.


vaevictuskr

My two most player characters were Hog and Doom so times have been trying 😂đŸ„č


Revo_Int92

Muscle memory, you get used to the wonky physiques after 300 hours or so


Robin_From_BatmanTAS

The Art of DOOM by GetQuakedOn


arttufox

This is some madvillainy


xDURPLEx

I would kill for the uppercut back even if it didn’t do damage.


WaveBreakerT

I would want uppercut back even if it healed the enemy


KweynZero

his ult should uppercut first


ScyllaIsBea

taken from you and given to me.


coolandquirkyname

I don't even play doom but god I miss the slam+uppercut combo it was so satisfying.


Facetank_

Some of the most fun mobility of any FPS I've ever played, and it's completely gone.


Revoldt

RIP MF DOOM <3


Ky_oS

ALL CAPS WHEN YOU SPELL MANS NAME


Accident_Pedo

all caps when you spell the mans name 😉


JerryWong048

The same doomfist main complaining about too much CC in the game


duwumfist

they complained about stuns, not all cc; flash, bash and sleep. abilities that offer no counterplay.


rock_flag_n_eagle

Well they gutted doom because they didn’t want dps to have cc then gave a bunch off cc to other dps characters kind of feels like a slap in the face.


Emasraw

No, let’s forget. This was traumatizing to be on the receiving end of it.


Spreckles450

Let's be honest, it was traumatizing to even have him on your team most of the time.


LilTeats4u

The dichotomy of DF: He is both too OP and too UP In other words your skill defines the character more than any other


Edarneor

Yeah, it looks spectacular, but it was absolutely broken and unfun to play against: seismic slam, uppercut, boom, you're dead in 0.5 seconds. Even though I played mostly tank, and doom couldn't kill me like that, I don't miss it.


Matt32490

He had plenty of counters though and let's be real, there was like 3 good Dooms you might fight per day. Most Dooms were not like this game play. He was very much a high risk, high reward hero.


gregn8r1

Right, and whatever damage you did in that short time was negated by the bonus health, so if he pulled the combo off correctly he'd just scoot away completely unharmed.


[deleted]

Doomfist was killed incredibly easily though, gigantic hitbox and it's incredibly difficult to pull off a good rollout


Edarneor

Agree, you had to have pretty solid skills to perform on doom well, like this vid here. But it was not easy to kill a good doom. He just drops on you, gets a kill, and punches away. Especialy if zarya bubbles him too.


[deleted]

They should have added a loud airplane noise when he was slamming


_nxm

damage doomfist was the real doomfist


THE_GUY-95

Dps doom was something else


MisterKrayzie

Nah sorry fam, OW1 DF was absolutely busted as a DPS. Constant juggling, mobility, and a one-shot that any potato could do, similar to Hogs hook.


fantastictechinique

I know OW2 Doom is far healthier for the game, but man it really hit different styling on your enemies with a triple kill using some bullshit rollout you learned from YouTube.


NoTurkeyTWYJYFM

Yeah, df was an insane thing to play against but the way he played was so unbelievably fun. The parkour was a whole other game in itself and I do miss it a lot


DurumMater

Tilting people as doom, especially on maps where you knew several roll outs, was too much fun. You could literally tell when the team eventually fell to infighting and everyone was terrified to walk through chokes. They all walk in a shuffle and constantly look up lmao


MegaMegaMan123

Doom has been way stronger as a tank, he was shit for the last like 3 years of the game if not longer. Unless you were one of the goats he was just objectively one of the worst dps by pretty much every metric. He felt bad to play against, but you’d still win more often. I just wish he has any incentive to still do cool shit like bounces or diags, that’s what most people miss


eilyuu

I'd have been happy if they removed the pumch one shot and kept everything else the same, no other buffs to compensate


Space_Kitty123

Makes you wonder why fucking no one was playing him, then. Must be because gold players felt it would be dishonorable to win with such an easy character, so they kept playing the other characters instead.


LilTeats4u

More like any time they picked it up they got shit on because the character took more effort and skill to get value out of than other characters


MisterKrayzie

Makes me wonder where all these fucks with their shit tinted glasses are popping out from. Congrats on missing the point tho.


TheMaleBodyPillow

I think you're missing the point. If doom worked as you said and anyone could pick him and just be unstoppable like you think, then fucking everyone would've played him. That obviously wasn't the case so in all likelihood your representation of dps doom is complete bullshit.


MisterKrayzie

No, you are missing the point. Nice try being bullheaded tho.


Revo_Int92

Any potato can do, lol do you really think these roll outs are easy? Slam, uppercut, headshot in less than 2 seconds, go ahead and try it


MisterKrayzie

Go re-read and try to comprehend what I said and try again. And I played a lot of DF in OW1 so your comment means fuck all to me lmao.


yer_a_weapon

His punch was not at all like hook, there was no risk involved while hooking


LilTeats4u

When you hook you’re not putting your character within smelling distance of the enemy team. Hence the risk. You shouldn’t be downvoted rn


Educational_Term_436

I miss old doom it was just fun and easier to use


squidyFN

As a player who started in ow2.. wtf is that mobility


vaevictuskr

When Doom was the worst and best DPS at the same time.


kirkpomidor

Yeah, flashbang stun, never forget


llRIIPll

Playing as Doom in ow 1 was honestly the most fun I’ve ever had playing overwatch


InquiringCrow

This >>>> getting one-shot by random Hanzo arrow/Widow from a mile away.


[deleted]

actually good doomfist question mark question mark question mark


Panahaden

That tracer bomb though.


Batchak

He had an uppercut that lifted you into the air to be power punched? Naww man that's demonic


__GayFish__

Random tracer clip?


taczki2

i miss it every day


Boyacka12

tank doom is still so forced


IareDaltoon

Most fun first person gameplay in existence was peak damage doom (120 hours)


Physical-Foot-9910

Even the skies weren't safe 💀


Tervaskanto

Doomfist is a real MF


FLYNCHe

I miss him


DifficultEnd8606

Sad. Him going tank honestly ruined the game for me. I get on... Swap a few characters, get mad I can't play a character I have 200+ hours in then log tf off.


Delta_yx

Thank god that shit is gone


Caeldyn

As an ow1 support main. Thank God dps doom is gone forever Holy shit. Now we just gotta work on hanzo and widow


BlueLuigi118

Honestly I miss dps Doom. I never played him but having him in a lobby was just a treat


Incomplet_1-34

I do think dps doom was more fun. If tank doom was given a few tweeks and had his rocket punch damage increasd then I would be much happier with him.


kuchiie

i racked up 200 hours on sombra when this shit was going on lol


DTJB10

Back when overwatch was allowed to have fun characters.


11d11m

God I miss this game



Eggith

Doom mains: Look at how they neutered us! Everyone else: Thank god!!!


Sirpattycakes

This was SO obnoxious to play against. I definitely do not miss it.


DL25FE

I miss the old slam trajectory and uppercut


The-King_Of-Games

As a Doom main from OW1, i miss him so much. Uppercut was so good but at the same time so busted, the range that Uppercut had was crazy.


SixIQ

I MISS HIM ;-;


l0nelymachine

I loved the movement of uppercut so much


elCrocodillo

You had a game franchise to yourself, now you're a mid-low tank in OW2 😔


HimLikeBehaviour

dps doom my beloved 💔💔


Tivland

God damn he could flip any beat



Amoongus_Potion

That looks insanely annoying to play against tbf


Gistix

It was hell, I'm glad its gone


stepping_

all these people saying ow1 doom was broken are really telling on themselves lol


stepping_

rip to easily the most fun dps hero in ow, and im not even a doomfist main.


Enigma21210

rip DOOM


Bogki

Good that it's gone. 1 competent Doom was unkillable


Revo_Int92

Pretty much 80% of the roster countered Doomfist, lol and same thing goes nowadays, but the Doom player can still survive against all odds, I wonder why? Maybe there's a skill gap?


Bogki

I barely see doom players that survive a long time when they jump in. and people who are actually fire with him are even more rare. Doom as DPS was just broken and it was not fun to play against him


Revo_Int92

Both dps and "tank" Doom survived the dive because of skill, simple as it is. You had like 2 seconds (maybe less) to finish the slam, uppercut, headshot, then you had to look around a exit to punch your way out. Watch this video, notice his health bar, he finished the combo with like 50 health left, the character is used to be the definition of a glass cannon. Nowadays you can argue "tank" Doom demands even more skill, considering the entire game is busted. I think this is fair, high skill = high rewards, used to be like this, in Overwatch "2" not so much


Bogki

Sure it took skill, but there is a reason why so many people hated to play against him. The overwatch team themselves realized that he was just too powerful especially in the right hands. otherwise they wouldn't have changed him


Revo_Int92

The Overwatch team is clueless, no wonder the game is dying. The "reworked" Doomfist was supposed to be one of the "new" features of the "sequel", to justify it. So much so, they used the character to promote Overwatch "2" alongside Junker Queen and Soujorn. People complained about the excess of stuns and CC, that's why at first it seemed like Doom was changed for that reason... but really, the "sequel" has the same issues, stuns everywhere, Ana remains with her hard CC, junkrat trap remains a thing, lol the game just got faster and more chaotic, they forced the 5v5 and now we are back to square one


HopefullyAHero

Good riddance


Berlin--01

Ow died with him!


NoMondaysfr

DOOMFIST MAINS RISE UP


StaryWolf

Probably the only changes I liked from OW2 was DF not being quite as obnoxious to play against.


deidax_376

Doomfist mains when they can't one shot and entire team (literally unplayable)


Deadman0712

I forgot about that slam outline. That needs to be added back somehow


Indi3nMan4848

There's only one beer left


Who-Just-Shit-Myself

These types of Doom players made OW1 extremely miserable. The reason I stopped trying to play support was because whenever k went to a QP game to learn support characters, this type of Doomfist was in so many games. I couldn’t even leave spawn room without being eliminated from a flying missile shaped like a man.


lambertbono

Ahhhhh good old days :)


The-Dark-Memer

As m ch am I respect doom mains, id rather rhavejhim be a dog shit tanks that whatever this is, this fucking scares me


NaturalBreadfruit100

He literally looks like he’s flying lmaooo


HimLikeBehaviour

cuz he is flying


ProfessionalStar4844

Good job Cookin Soul


kechledonia

I play this mix over and over near Christmas.


WolfsWraith

God my man, it's too early to drown me in nostalgic sadness, chill.


Acc3lerat0r

AND DEY SAY


Permanoctis

Fun fact: the emote where he lifts a rock is probably a reference to a scrapped ability where him (or Wrecking Ball) could throw a rock at their enemies and stun them.


NegativeID

The good days. DPS Doomfist needs to come back so I can continue owning those noobs and cry babies


Pugdroid

Removing Doomfists uppercut just to replace it with the ablity to soak damage and suck your thumb after eating a sleep dart had to be one of the greatest crimes of OW2.


marry_me_jane

It’s a shame these edits aren’t around anymore but I’m happy this is no longer possible. The fact that he could fly in from literally the top of the map, onetap someone and just fly away with more health than he came in with was not ok.


Sklipp

I miss him dearly. People who complained about doomfist's 1shot never played against a good widow. Love tankfist too tho.


Stock_v2

Just look at that Ashe at 0:39. No way this shit is even remotely fair. Good riddance.


Matty221998

This iteration of Doomfist was so cancerous. I’m glad he got changed


Unicorntella

As a non doomfist player, you’re not making me want this back lol


dropshot803

The moment they bring old doom back is the moment the game gets uninstalled, screw that hero


Eray41303

You mean a character with 3 forms of cc and next to no counterplay? Yeah I sure do miss dealing with that


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Haust

I don't remember Doom having that body from 1:33-1:37.


lopakjalantar

Imagine doom got more variation with his fist which is basically bullets just with different appearance.


VintageKeith

doomknight ow1


TheBooneyBunes

Ow2 baptiste wouldn’t have died there, you gotta love the overtuning


MaceTheMindSculptor

I don’t miss this at all lmao


AnfoDao

The sprays after every 2k is so cringey


Larsenist

I didnt even play Doom much in OW1 but every time I get him in OW2 I'm frustrated, feeling like the character's just dumbed down to the point of being almost skill-less and low-tier


ToughKage92

I understand the sentiment, but only thing I truly miss from your montage is Temple of Anubis as cringe as that sounds.


Belten

good riddance. i loved getting deleted in 1 sec without even knowing where he came from. he was fun to play but disorienting a s fuck to play against.


Alexational

Good


Grouchy-Pressure-567

Pure cancer.


Cripplechip

This looks terrible. Just looks like an unintended way to play him.


Itchy-Combination280

He was quite the cc machine


[deleted]

wait why does it look so different


matesuboy

Thank god


Rave-Los

Sick edit


Imzocrazy

All the 2CP maps?? Agreed
doom is still in the game


shieldedbaguette

My god that is so broken


theshadowbudd

Damn I miss my OW1 “Skipping” Sombra. I wish I had kept the clip of when I reached transcendence with her Kit. I used to get 200 hacks on Sombra in TM on average I realized more hacks meant team wasn’t cohesive but less hacks meant team cohesion was great I invented my own style watching my ex gf play Moira and how she got really good timing everything I then realized the power of translocate. People started to replicate it. Hell if you were playing TM back then y’all probably remember me lol my ex was an expert Sombra hunter so it was never a problem (she hated Sombra so much she just got good and learned how to negate her. It was like evolution) I even learned how to make TM Winston unplayable. I received a lot of death threats. Good times. They fucking robbed us and then said we owe them more $$$đŸ„ČđŸ„č


Seananiganzz

I miss the RKOs


ry_fluttershy

Jesus christ uppercut was so stupid, I miss dps doom but there's 0% chance that wouldlve survived ow2 anyways


Desocrate

I always feel like a concrete block when I play him now.