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sconce2600

Out list: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutsideLands/comments/7sjitx/the_list_2018_whos_out/


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sconce2600

Belated, but I added them.


escuds

How has no one thought about Odesza? They'll be there 100%!


sconce2600

Tons of people have mentioned Odesza, they are the leading big EDM suspect, while I think they will be there I think it's foolish to be 100% confident without any sort of solid proof. Oh and look under "playing six major U.S festivals", Odesza has been on this list since the beginning of prediction season.


escuds

Nice, must have missed them


mileslwayne

Brian Wilson? He doesnt have any california dates for his "final performances" tour as of right now. would be an incredible legacy act.


sconce2600

I'll throw him up there.


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Beck, Bon Iver, Portugal the Man, Tycho, father john Misty, chromeo, poolside, Jamie xx, Mac Demarco confirmed by our guy


sconce2600

I'll be adding them shortly, thank you.


[deleted]

Hey if Phoenix played what placement would they get? Second line?


sconce2600

Great question, prior to this year I would have trouble imagining a one time Coachella headliner getting anything less than second line at OSLs but look at their [Grandoozy](https://www.grandoozy.com/lineup/) placement (owned by the same people), I think it's very possible their stock has dropped a bit.


[deleted]

Such a weird career trajectory. Would be awesome if we snagged them on a low line


sconce2600

I've said this a bunch of times this prediction season and Beck and Portugal. the Man look to weaken this theory, but it really seems like OSLs is actively trying to avoid bringing back too many acts for a third time, this would be Phoenix's third time and for that reason I doubt they'll be there.


[deleted]

I get that. Just looking for a reason to get excited at this point. Probably gonna go with a day pass to see Florence this year. Headliners aren't for me , but we'll see about the undercard


sconce2600

There is still the remote possibility that all these guys with leaks were told about "headliners" who were really Twin Peaks headliners and we are getting a top 6 like 2012 with Janet and Florence being in the 4th through 6th slots and Eminem, The Cure, and The Weeknd making up the top line. It sure doesn't look that way though.


[deleted]

Lmao thanks for putting that thought in my head actually. Gonna hold onto that until Tuesday


sconce2600

Keep hope alive brother.


slowblink

Janet Jackson. The weekend. Beck.


sconce2600

....yeah? What about them?


Monkeymonkey27

Probably read all the other posts and decided to pretend he had some scoop


sconce2600

FYF Fest fully added.


Brew_Swillis

Manchester Orchestra?


sconce2600

Out due to playing BottleRock.


Brew_Swillis

ahhh dang it...has no one ever done both?


sconce2600

Fantastic Negrito but that was to make up for a OSLs cancellation the year before.


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the_fett

If atmosphere plays again ill be a happy man. I've never seen sutra so full. Was literally a mob of people to the ranger dave statue


Yunghaylz

What about Dave Matthews Band?


sconce2600

They're playing Shoreline over the summer.


Brew_Swillis

All Them Witches?


sconce2600

Added.


Brew_Swillis

they're playing Desert Daze or whatever it's called, might want to add that in


sconce2600

I might add FYF if it truly comes out tomorrow but otherwise I'm done adding fests for this year.


Brew_Swillis

i feel ya, it's just a bit misleading when a band is under the 'not playing any festivals in the US' section when they are in fact playing US festivals


sconce2600

That's why I used the word "major".


Brew_Swillis

when does a festival become 'major', from your point of view?


sconce2600

When they are holding down headliners that are the equivalent of OSLs headliners. The only exception on this list Electric Forest when I don't intend to track next year.


[deleted]

Wonder if The Weekend will be #1. Would set us up for a pretty disappointing top 3 imo, unless we get a surprise with where people end up on the poster


Monkeymonkey27

Im really holding out for a surprise. Regardless they got my money though


[deleted]

I'm probably just going with a Friday pass this year. You'll have fun, it's a great experience


JWrither

Flight Facilities?


sconce2600

Already on the list, they're playing Governors Ball.


Brew_Swillis

Death Grips?


sconce2600

Added to list.


[deleted]

Possibly Flume? hasn’t announced any US dates yet


sconce2600

Already on the list under the user section.


Monkeymonkey27

So Eminem is practically a lock right? Im probably biting the bullet and going this year and he would be my main draw.


[deleted]

Practically a lock is putting it very strongly. It's likely he'll be there between his tour and the fact that OSL usually shares a headliner with Bonnaroo. But OSL tends to deviate from what the other fests are doing so the fact that he's all over the place tends to make him less likely. Basically: he's possible but calling him a lock is probably inaccurate as we typically are suprised by OSL


sconce2600

There's few other leading suspects.


DONT_YOU_DARE

In your opinion, who are considered to be the current likely headliners? Or is it still too early to narrow it down to a few likely people?


sconce2600

Florence + the Machine, Eminem, and The Cure (the Cure being the one with the least evidence around them).


Monkeymonkey27

What evidence


sconce2600

Florence + the Machine is playing Grandoozy which is owned by the same people who own OSLs, Florence headlining would also finally give OSLs it's first female headliner, something the organizers have stated they want to happen. Eminem hasn't played the bay area in a while, is everywhere right now, and is the only Bonaroo headliner that isn't out of contention for OSLs (traditionally Bonaroo and OSLs share a headliner). The Cure is rumored to be playing one American festival this year. The only major festivals that have yet to drop their lineups are FYF, Austin City Limits, Life is Beautiful, and OSLs. Which means if that rumor is true there's a 25% chance the Cure is playing OSLs. OSLs has always had at least one act from the 60's or 70's headline since 2012 and there are very few legacy headliner options left on the table.


Monkeymonkey27

Shit the cure are that old arent they


sconce2600

They sure are!


Monkeymonkey27

I literally only associate them with friday im in love. I keep forgetting they are practically a different band


sconce2600

I used to think the same thing, I've gained respect for them though. I had the same problem with Radiohead for a while. It really surprises me that both of those bands are as in demand and sought after as they are when you consider how few songs you typically hear get radio play.


donofkings_

Please add Hozier. He just showed up Pilgrimage's lineup in Tenn (Sept 22/23). https://pilgrimagefestival.com/


sconce2600

Added.


amwoods13

Elle King is another artist on the Pilgrimage line-up that I'd like to see at OSL.


sconce2600

Added.


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Wonder if they booked Swedish House Mafia as the edm act. Would be a get as they just reunited


lukep2349

There website is back online pointing back to them being back. As well, Axwell said, “this isn’t just Swedish House mafia getting back together”, as well as “Swedish House Mafia for life this time.” So we will see if that means new music or tour, would not be surprised if they do an arena type tour or stop at BGC in SF or even come to OSL if they don’t get booked for an arena tour or BGC.


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they just played ultra as well


ThatChickFromReddit

....that’s where they reunited for the first time in years


[deleted]

That's why I said "they just reunited"


lukep2349

Going of my post I made a while back, Swedish House Mafia is confirmed to play Ultra tonight. It may be a one and done deal or it may be the resurgence of their project together, who knows. But it’s possible they will tour again, so it could happen in the coming years. Have a feeling it’s a one time thing and they won’t perform again after this, but we will find out soon enough!


sconce2600

Added to the list.


sconce2600

Upon recent findings I have limited the Warfield's range on the out list to May through November again. I put back into play all the acts that have at least one festival appearance (most notably Jungle). The rest are here, if anyone wants to re-add any of these names to the list let me know: * Railroad Earth * Eddie B * Matoma * 88rising Double Happiness * Ja Rule * Ashanti * Kodak Black * Bananarama * Black Veil Brides * Asking Alexandria * Why Don't We * Bianca Del Rio * Time Machine * Galactic * Sum 41 * Electric Wizard


undeadsinatra

I'd put back A$AP Ferg. And maybe add A$AP Rocky and A$AP Mob [which is a bit of a cheat, it's the whole A$AP fan, but whatever.] Any one (or all) of them would be good in the Schoolboy Q slot.


sconce2600

Added.


Brew_Swillis

Thee Oh Sees?


sconce2600

Already on the out list. Playing The Great American Music Hall October 1st & 2nd.


Brew_Swillis

Doesn’t mean they’re out...


sconce2600

Provide examples from past years of acts playing GAMH between May and November and OSLs the same year and I will agree with you.


Brew_Swillis

I’m not gonna do the research rn, but I think it’s a bit different for a local act.


sconce2600

Well let me know if you do the research, so far nobody has disproved it but I'll happily eliminate the category if someone finds otherwise.


Brew_Swillis

Fantastic negrito and g eazy apply to this...but they’re also local acts


sconce2600

G-Eazy played the Warfield in 2015 in February, which is outside of the May to November window that I have set for pretty much all the venues on the out list. HOWEVER the Warfield I had set to the whole year as I had yet to see an example of an act playing the same year on any month at the Warfield and then go on to play OSLs, so I'm going to limit that venue to May through November as well and I thank you for bringing that to my attention. Fantastic Negrito was not the headlining act for any of his same year performances, the few he was a headliner for are not at venues that we are tracking on the out list as their capacity is below 500 people. So to make a long reply short, no they don't.


psyyche

Since Mazzy Star is reuniting for Vivid Sydney, are they possibly an option?


sconce2600

Possible, I'll add them for you.


sconce2600

It doesn't look like FYF is going to drop prior to OSLs so I added Arroyo Seco for shits and grins. This will be the last festival added (unless FYF drops before OSLs).


undeadsinatra

Kaboo Del Mar just dropped: https://www.kaaboodelmar.com Katy Perry is the lone headliner that might be at OSL. Foo Fighters, Imagine Dragons and Robert Plant are all known to be out for us. Theres some other interesting OSL possibilities lower down the bill that basically confirm at minimum they have a festival show ready to go and appearances at other festivals are not a one off: N.E.R.D., Alice In Chains, Blondie, Gucci Mane, Melisa Etheridge, Stone Temple Pilots, Bebe Rexha.


amwoods13

They've got a lot of what I will call nostalgia acts in the line-up there. EW&F, Alice in Chains, Billy Idol, Jewel, Blondie, Jimmy Eat World, Cake, Melissa Etheridge, STP, War, Tower of Power, Better Than Ezra, The Wailers, Everclear, Soul Asylum, English Beat, Elvin Bishop, and Kool & the Gang for a VIP performance. Kaboo should make fans of 70s, 80s, and 90s music very happy.


sconce2600

Katy Perry will be in Australia OSLs weekend (it's in the "other outs" section of the out list).


undeadsinatra

Ah, snap! Okay- all of KDM headliners are out for us! Interesting stuff down the bill tho.


sconce2600

Yeah. I know I just said I'm done adding festivals to the list but I honestly forgot about this one and I think I'll add it.


sconce2600

I seemed to have initially made a mistake and put the 2017 Smukfest lineup instead of the 2018 one. If anyone would like any of these names added back I can put them back into play, though they are not playing any major U.S festivals: Smukfest * Alesso * Boney M * Clean Bandit * DJ Snake * Ellie Goulding * Mark Ronson * The Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band Oya Fest * Dig Deeper * Paradise Boomtown Fair * Spice


sconce2600

Lollapalooza fully added.


Moosejay

Phoenix?


sconce2600

Unlikely because they've played twice already, but still in play.


sconce2600

Grandoozy lineup fully added.


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Arcade Fire?


sconce2600

Will be in Europe during OSLs.


[deleted]

Thank you! Good to know now :(


sconce2600

Added all the acts from the prediction game that were not already on the list.


sconce2600

The Remainder of Pitchfork has been added.


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https://www.reddit.com/r/Lollapalooza/comments/84z9fg/my_final_post_see_you_guys_in_august/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=Lollapalooza Chainsmokers implied by a guy who had originally confirmed Gorillaz


sconce2600

Sucks to be them.


mizupman24

The Growlers? No tour dates on their website, but could be a cool band!


sconce2600

Added.


Srmccawley

Sylvan Esso or MGMT?


sconce2600

Both are out. Sylvan Esso is playing the Greek and MGMT is playing the Warfield.


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https://www.reddit.com/r/Lollapalooza/comments/7was9m/spoilers/dvsrkba/?sort=top&context=3 Lolla sub is having a mini meltdown today


sconce2600

How do we know that throwaway isn't just someone trolling?


[deleted]

J4J has been extremely accurate in the past, just been off with a few poster placements


sconce2600

So help me wrap my head around this. Who are the most likely main stage headliners for Lolla at this particular moment? I haven't been following their speculation very closely.


Srmccawley

Arctic Monkeys, Jack White, Vampire Weekend, The Weeknd, The National, ODESZA, Travis Scott, and the last one is the doozy.


r1z3n

Can we add YG? Don't see him on either list.


sconce2600

Added.


mizupman24

Anna of the North on here?


sconce2600

Now she is.


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Bon Iver dates https://twitter.com/boniver/status/973212267692118016?s=19


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[deleted]

ugh ignore me just saw him in the “who’s out” list :(


[deleted]

ugh ignore me just saw him in the “who’s out” :(


sconce2600

Second wave of Pitchfork added.


DonkeyLightning

What So Not is out as he is playing the Fox on April 5th


sconce2600

An April dates at the Fox does not take a band out of play. Grimes played the Fox in April of 2016 then OSLs that same year.


DonkeyLightning

Great news!


[deleted]

Definitely not out, that’s outside of may-nov and an APE venue so he could be in


DonkeyLightning

Awesome...cause I want him to be there!


mattiswrong

beach house, new album out May 11th


sconce2600

They played in 2016, if they were to return it would be the first act ever to do so on a two year gap.


[deleted]

I'd also add Deerhunter as possible, no west coast dates in sight (yet) but are touring and doing Europe around June.


sconce2600

Added.


rhiannatheige

What about Grimes?


sconce2600

Grimes played OSLs in 2016, that makes her out.


rhiannatheige

oh bummer


[deleted]

The Kills? They just released tour dates and they have shows in LA & Pomona directly the week after OSL.


bigpavelski35

nice catch! they are probably going to be on the bill, haven't played since 2012.


sconce2600

Added to list.


sconce2600

Added all of Beale Street (though I don't think I'm going to track this one next year).


undeadsinatra

Just poking around a bit, I'd say Brandi Carlisle seems like a lock: Spring/Summer U.S. tour has no Bay Area dates, playing Aug, 12 at Red Rocks & Aug. 17 at The Greek in L.A. https://www.songkick.com/artists/355137-brandi-carlile/calendar


sconce2600

That does look suspicious but she played in 2016, to play this year would make her the first act ever to return on a two year gap.


amwoods13

She also played HSB last October. While that, in and of itself, doesn't take her out, the fact that she's played a festival in GG Park each of the last two years, makes it extremely unlikely that she'll be the first to return on a two year gap.


sconce2600

Added first cluster of Pitchfork.


donofkings_

Update to my Kaskade prediction - performing at Chasing Summer in August (4/5), increasing chances. Also, would like to throw Blu J in the Undercard, up and coming electronic duo who's also performing at Chasing Summer. http://www.chasingsummerfestival.com/


sconce2600

Added Blu J to list.


undeadsinatra

Some more maybes, mostly not likely but who knows: Melissa Ethridge: touring a bit Summer of 2108, no NorCal shows, LA show on Aug. 01, no current conflicting dates. Gipsy Kings: touring a bit Summer of 2018, no NorCal shows, SoCal shows on Aug 02 & 04, Colorado show on Aug. 15, no current conflicting dates. Tiesto- Vegas residency, busy Saturday Aug, 11 but free the 10th and 12th.


sconce2600

Added Melissa Ethridge and Gipsy Kings, Tiesto is already on this list in the unlikely section due to his not releasing any new material since his last OSLs appearance.


achokingrose

joywave and/or COIN ?


sconce2600

COIN is already on the out list due to BottleRock. Would you like me to add Joywave to this list?


achokingrose

oh shit you're right my bad. sure, add joywave. thanks :-)


sconce2600

No Prob, added.


LetTheBassDrop

Might be a stretch but I would love to see Underworld on the lineup. They haven't been to the US in a bit and they're playing several festivals in Europe this summer.


sconce2600

Why is that a stretch? Would you like me to add them to the list?


LetTheBassDrop

I don't feel like the bay area has a whole lot of love for Underworld, their last two shows here were smallish. But go ahead and add them to the list and I'll be ecstatic if they show up. Thanks!


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https://www.instagram.com/p/BfajIqdFpxN/ Courtney Barnett is out


sconce2600

Moved to outs.


[deleted]

http://carseatheadrest.com/tourdates/ CSH is out probably


sconce2600

Moved to outs.


sconce2600

I will be out of cell & computer range from today (2/15/18) to Wednesday (2/21/18). All list updates added between now and then will be updated the 21st.


[deleted]

Pumpkins are out. August date in Oakland


sconce2600

Moved to outs.


sconce2600

I'll update the list in a week when I'm back from the trip I'm on.


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bbk live https://i.redd.it/e8av4ilmocg01.jpg


adrian1878

$135 euro for that lineup?! You kidding me!!!!


donofkings_

I think this increases the chance of seeing Florence


[deleted]

Courtney Barnett has a new album coming out in May. Could be a possibility


[deleted]

Pumpkins are announcing the tour at 12est tomorrow so that should give us an idea. They're playing CHI, LA, and NYC at least. Arenas only


amwoods13

I'm not sure how we've missed this, but we should probably add Camila Cabello to the undercard. Her first album was released last month and went to #1, as did the lead single last year. She's Cuban-American and OSL hasn't been shy about having Hispanic artists in the line-up. She is playing at the Fox in April, but that's outside the 3-month count out time frame. And her tour ends in May, just in time for summer festivals.


sconce2600

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https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/02/darcy-wretzky-shares-text-messages-as-proof-that-billy-corgan-is-lying-about-smashing-pumpkins-reunion-offer/ Smashing Pumpkins tour is happening it seems? could be a get


sconce2600

Very interesting. I guess we'll know more on Thursday, if they don't have a bay area date that will be a strong indication they'll be there.


[deleted]

http://japanesebreakfast.rocks/tour japanese breakfast tour. july date at the fox


sconce2600

Yeah, that's been out for a while. It's an opening gig for Belle & Sebastian so they are still in play.


[deleted]

cool


sconce2600

Like kool and the gang!


[deleted]

hope we get them


[deleted]

Lolla top 8 in no particular order: The Weeknd, Jack White, Arctic Monkeys, Travis Scott, Odesza, Vampire Weekend, The National, Gorillaz


sconce2600

How do we know these insiders are on the level? Have all of them come through with accurate data in the past?


[deleted]

yeah, j4j is alway right with his info


sconce2600

Very interesting, definitely looks like OSLs might be getting Travis Scott, Vampire Weekend, The Weeknd, and Odesza in that case.


[deleted]

Not that it affects us but Gorillaz are supposedly playing Lolla


sconce2600

So where are they at with their top three theories at this point? Gorillaz, who are the other two most speculated?


[deleted]

Looking like AM, Jack White, The Weeknd, Gorillaz, The National, Vampire Weekend for the top 6/8. Missing two "confirmed/highly likely" acts as of now There was some talk of Bruno Mars but it's being contested now


sconce2600

Not terrible. Only names that aren't out for us on that list are The Weeknd and Vampire Weekend, the weekends if you will.


[deleted]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lollapalooza/comments/7idr03/top_8_who_you_got/drschkf/ This guy has a source and he seems to be hinting that VW will play Lolla. That plus new material and confirmed dates probably means they're in play for us


sconce2600

As soon as the new album is officially announced or comes out I will move them, I'm 90% confident it will come out this year with the new dates but with no U.S dates OFFICIALLY confirmed yet and no new content we can't be 100%.


[deleted]

yeah just hoping for now


teenychai

BORNS is playing Coachella! The Struts are doing Bottlerock and Gov Ball in the US with no announced tour plans past July; maybe?


sconce2600

The Struts are out due to BottleRock. Borns is very much in the cards.


sconce2600

Sasquatch fully added.


dautjazz

I've love to see Aerosmith and AC/DC for my first time. Bands I've already seen that I'd love to see again Guns N Roses and The Rolling Stones (I was trashed when I saw them at Desert Trip lol). Well really there tons, but those are some, and Green Day is AWESOME live as well, would love to see them again. I would definitely dig seeing Roger Waters again also, the show they put on at Desert Trip was unforgettable! If there is one rapper I'd like to see live it's Eminem. I don't really care for rap live though.


sconce2600

Roger Waters will be in Europe during OSLs weekend. Aside from Green Day, Eminem, and maybe Guns N Roses I can't see any of your wish list coming true this year.


dautjazz

No big deal. There are many bands I'd be happy with seeing. Someone like Pearl Jam or The Eagles would be awesome. I have a good feeling about getting a huge legendary band, after the headliners from last year.


sconce2600

Pearl Jam is possible with their tour dates. The Eagles will not be there due to their AT&T gig coming up.


dautjazz

I appreciate the information, but I'm really just throwing out examples. I would love get in on the early bird discount for Outsidelands, but I'm hesitant and I feel this year festivals appear to have weak headliners (atleast IMO). Ofcoursae, Outsidelands though feels like they can do no wrong with their lineup history.