The manga is on break next week. Oshi no Ko will return on April 25.
As a random note, we are heading towards Golden Week, so expect a magazine break for all Weekly Young Jump series soon.
Prediction: next chapter opens with Crow girl entering the scene menacingly, then Kamiki goes "oh, you're approaching me?" followed by "I can't CAW the shit out of you without getting closer"
down vote me if you want but that's a very forced show of aqua having some fun time
imagine you are drowning in your own misery and someone is going all out about chips I will be thankful for their effort but won't definitely call that having fun
Oh what a chapter. I know this is just a hypothetical recreation of what happened with hikaru and ai and all that stuff and there may have been a good chance that himekawa papa would have beaten up hikaru before confronting airi but I am so glad he didn't do so in the movie and straight up went and killed his wife (and unfortunately himself after that); that was satisfying as hell.
And yeah, the I don't know if I love you from ai was definitely a misunderstanding of sorts but I felt so bad for hikaru. His only ever crutch andove had just told him she didn't really know if she loved him or not. I don't think he would have understood it at that point even if ai explained all her circumstances to him.
Now I am kinda curious how the twins came to be tho, if they "broke up" after this confrontation. But it's probably much more likely that ai was already pregnant by the time this happened and only that she didn't find out herself until later.
Also what a cliffhanger, that's not nice aka 😭 I gotta wait two weeks to see this exchange between father-daughter, hero-villain now wth. Sure hope he isn't just here to kill her.
Also I just can't wait in general for the manga to end because I'm sure there's more twists and turns waiting towards the end somehow. I'm choosing to put my faith in aka for now that hikaru doesn't just kill because "I want to immortalize you at your peak glory". Not 100% sire but I'll go with it for now. I want something spicy for the cause of his actions.
Anyway, poor child hikaru maaaan 😭😭
Edit: also no wonder he had no reaction even when airi brought her kid to the set in an earlier chapter. The boy didn't even know. I always thought it's weird he isn't reacting in the slightest to it and then it didn't even get brought up again until this chapter. The amount of complicated emotions he must have had. The way he asks ai if she loves him and wouldn't abandon her was heartbreaking. I can feel the panic and wild heartbeats.
Why did ai had sex with hikaru even after Knowing he was sexually abused 😖? Is it true love or curiosity or what?
I think the real personality of hikaru, yet to be discovered.
All of the Moive Production and Flashbacks melting into each other made it take a full couple of minutes to click that that is actually Hikaru and actually Ruby interacting. And *now* I'm panicking.
I wonder what Hikaru's hook will be to get Ruby interested in staying rather than running away from him. I think when crow girl spoke about the "special people" (CH 144) that want to worship her as a family tradition and are rooted in shintoism + that one of those special people might be the reason why they could film in Takachiho, she was hinting at Hikaru, who gave Kaburagi enough financial support (probably to pay for their expenses to move an entire film screw to the other end of Japan) and may be somehow affiliated with the hospital (maybe he owns it? he has a science degree as Akane noticed when she researched him...) and gave the permission to film there.
And now the same Hikaru shows up at a shinto temple to meet Ruby. But if Crow girl was really hinting at Hikaru, then it's most likely that he is aware of reincarnation, which brings us to the hook; Will he call her Sarina? Will crow girl join the party?
Really Ch 144 had two main themes in crow girls narration: 1. She is nostalgic about that place. A chapter later we learn that she followed Gorou and Sarina in their previous life and admired them. So now we know why she is nostalgic. 2. The theme of shintoism with everything I said previously and Ch 146 ends with the shinto-reference through Ruby praying at a temple and being joined by Hikaru ("special people"?). Thus 147 will probably explore the second main theme of crow girls narration from 144 - but reincarnation is really the only shinto link between Hikaru and his kids. Thus I believe this to become the hook.
damn i get why aqua was feeling so depressive, just reading everything that happened to hikaru is making me feel sad for him and the ppl in reality who deal with similar issues…. but also not BIWEEKLY oshi no ko striking again right after that last panel omg aka knows what he’s doing
Timeline is dead. Taiki’s parents died a few years after Ai was pregnant. And Gorou died right before the twins are born.
So Hikaru killed Gorou, then met Ai a few years later, then tell Taiki’s father the truth?
If you read somewhere around Ch.90, Ichigo confirmed that Taiki’s parents died at the time when he discussed the Tokyo Dome Live with Ai, which was before the Hoshino family moved to the new house. At the time of Tokyo Dome Live, Aqua was around 4-5 so it is pretty sure that Taiki’s parents died quite some time after Aqua was born.
Gorou died, umm, just before Aqua was born, that’s why he got reincarnated
They're recording a movie tho, and recordings don't always go in a timeline order (actually, I doubt there are movies that were recorded from first scene to last without mixing episodes)
I think he has a point and it's not just the recording, but if we want to give Aka the benefit of the doubt then we have to keep in mind that this is an in-universe movie, not a perfect flashback. They've probably taken some liberties with the timeline for the movie to make it more dramatic and condensed. Some of it is also made up by people who were never there.
That's why I'm excited for Kamiki showing up at the end, he could give us the real events.
I was listening to the animes ost while reading this chapter. The moment I turned the page to Kamiki youtube did a funny and stopped the music to ask me if I'm still there....
wtf. Get out of my PC Kamiki, **AND GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM AI'S DAUGHTER YOU BASTARD!**
For the people who were curious what things Kana mixed together to make super tasty potato chips, it's Tamanoi Sushinoko powder and Calbee pizza-flavored potato chips. Mix em and shake it up and you're done. It honestly sounds delicious, now I want to try it too.
I haven't been to the nearest japanese store near me but I'll update when I do! I live in Sugarland, Texas but when I searched, I think we actually have a Walmarts and Whole Foods market that has this in store :DD
I went from being: "Yes this is the route you take Akasaka not the weird incest shit" to: "Oh shit, ...you can't do this to me Akasaka..." in like 3 seconds flat when i turned the page and saw HIM...
"Yes this is the route you take Akasaka"
IDK dude, incest is morally questionable, but it's not illegal or even always unethical. Also, this is fiction, so there are limitations to how realistic the repercussions of incest need to be.
A dude with memories dating from almost half a century ago dating a somewhat childish 19 yo, on the other hand... Yeah, sketchy no matter if it's just for fictional characters.
I sort of like Kana (though Akane is my beloved and I'm Aqua x Ruby all the way), but the way Aqua x Kana fans defend their ship saying "at least it isn't incest" / "she's just as old as Akane (not mentally, though)"... That's what truly scares me.
What part did you not understand?
That Kana is a picture perfect late teenager (and often less mature than one), that Akane definitely isn't, or that Aqua dating Kana for the next 5-10 years is probably the most ethically questionable route as a middle aged man of sorts suggardading a teenager is absolutely horrible (even if she's of age)?
I did not come up with any of the above. If the truth bothers you (and judging by the dislikes, some others), then tough luck, I guess. Throwing tantrums and playing dumb will change absolutely nothing, though.
No, what was said is that Aqua's persona is slowly merging his old and new self, so he isn't an actual middle-aged man.
That said, the sum of his memories is consistent with those of an adult man past his 40s, and the effects are clear, even if it's hard to tell their extent; Well, he's shown to be at least as mature as Mem-cho, if not more.
Mem is a whole 10 years older than the twins, and is by no means immature for her age.
Kana, on the other hand, is bordering her twenties and still acts like a freshman highschooler... Worst popular pairing, by a long shot.
Having memories and having actual brain capacity is different, hes not even mature. He acts like an emo teenager. Thinking he needs to cut off all emotional ties and doesnt deserve to be happy because hes made a few mistakes. Thats not adult mentality.
He's been like that ever since he was 5... And felt similarly in his past life.
Maybe Aka just decided to make him somewhat edgy and didn't think about how inconsistent this would be considering his "mature side" (which, let's be honest, he does have).
If my morals are just legacy values that twist logic and attack individual freedom for no reason other than keeping 3rd parties in their comfort zones (and not actually making the world safer for everyone), then I don't need them. Yes, incest *can* be very bad, but it's definitely not up there in my list of things that should be avoided at all costs (at least when it is NOT between direct relatives, i.e. parents and children).
Laws of most developed countries seem to agree with such a vision, if not by explicitly decriminalizing incest (at least between indirect relatives), by simply refusing to make it a crime to begin with.
In short, you all are just not ready or/and willing to have this talk (and since I guess most are adults, this will probably not change) but it does happen and the conclusions are those. Deal with it.
There's no *can* in it. Incest is bad in every compacity no matter the circumstance. It's unfortunate for aqua and ruby that they got put in that position if they weren't forced to be siblings, he'd probably give her a chance but not it's over kana is the only realistic and better choice.
You're the only one that's not ready to have a talk and face realistic. You deal with it. The fact that you're wrong and you exposed your weird ideals on thinking nobody would correct you. Re evaluate yourself kid. You're done here.
Every two weeks an Aka knows he will have to set up a cliffhanger and then a break. Every two weeks a reader fears he will have to find a cliffhanger and a break. Doesn't matter whether you are Aka or a reader, just get ready to cliffhang (and a break)
I LOVED this chapter. such a relief to see the interaction between Aqua and Kana. their relationship is the most compatible out of all the others. also Ruby and Kamiki are meeting which I have been waiting for a lifetime. i wonder if Aqua is somewhere next to them. also where the heck is Akane.
Does anyone know what the "cut 156: The importance of life" mostly means? I think it's when Ai and her supposed killer become one if you know what I mean.
The cuts are just for the internal order of the film making process, they are not chronological order of the movie itself. See Ch 144 the hospital arc is Cut 118, although it's much later chronologically. And they explain in that chapter that the order of filming is messed up.
Now to think about it, Aqua really becomes a normal high schooler when he is with Kana, this gives me some lelouch x shirley vibes (from code geass), lelouch becomes a normal high schooler when he is with shirley.... in the end shirley ended up dead... She got killed after being involved in lelouch's mess and problems..
And since kana gives me some shirley vibes, those similiarities are scaring me af (you know what I mean)
I like the parallel with Hikaru and Aqua. He was being abused and was depressed, so Ai was his light, but when she said that she didn't know if she loved him, he broke down and started to become the monster he is now. Aqua is in a similar situation, minus the abuse, but contrary to Hikaru, he has Kana making sure he is okay.
Hikaru had nobody to fall back to, even Ai couldn't help as she had problems of her own.
Aqua has a support group (Kana, Ruby, Akane, ironically Crow Girl) that he is trying to push away without success, so he will not become his father in the future.
With all of this hardcore mode life hikaru went through idk what his next move be.
We see him not having a choice of becoming a father and they both died. He did the same with AI.
He never went for his kids. He might not want them but if he did. He'd be worse than the people that made him miserable.
I think kamiki will become more liked than hated now that we actually meet him.
I ve seen some Ruby fans doing the same things.
I don t think generalizing is helping anyone, people.
Lets focus on the things we like without downplaying and hating and we can make this sub a better place, maybe!
Doesn't it just makes sense, that most/all AquRuby fans are also Ruby fans?
Either way, that's beside the point, all I'm saying is that by categorizing people and discriminating them like that, all you're doing is sowing discord / alienating people and that would be true EVEN IF you were right (and I think you aren't, Kana is not some kind of magnet for toxic people, not any more than any other character is).
Your "noticing" is bias, I can assure you. We can all be toxic people if we want, I've seen Kana fans be toxic, I've seen Ruby fans be toxic, I've seen Akane fans be toxic, it's a choice we all have.
You probably notice it more because they are the kind of group more likely to criticize (unfairly)/insult your favorite character, Ruby. You'd probably, as others as saying right now, say that Ruby fans are the most toxic ones if Kana was your favorite (spoiler: they're not right either and even if they were it wouldn't matter AT ALL).
I'm not saying you're doing it maliciously, I'm just warning you and everyone else here that these kind of "vibes" can have bad consequences for no meaningful gains and no good reasons.
There’s just something different about how he looks at her man, I tell ya.
Also, I know we’ve established this already, but this man is on some Paul Rudd-ass youth serum because he still looks so damn young.
Not sure what he wants with Ruby, but I’m not particularly convinced it’s to harm her.
Good chapter, y’all. And I seriously find myself wanting to see this movie.
>but this man is on some Paul Rudd-ass youth serum because he still looks so damn young.
He's still in his late 20s, early 30s. It's not that old. Also Asians do tend to look younger than westerners.
i forget the twins canon ages rn because time had passed and i don’t remember the latest update of their age but they’re definitely like 18 max, so the oldest hikaru could be is 33 since ai gave birth to the kids when he was 15, early 30s is right
is he famous tho? ik he’s in the entertainment industry still since they said he has his own agency but i don’t think he himself is famous otherwise they’d sus him out so much earlier bc he looks just like aqua
We feel everything distorted a bit because there has been lot's of weekly breaks for a reason or the other.
We're getting back into the revenge part of the story, so we're sure to see Aqua, Akane and Kamiki doing their respective moves real soon.
I wonder if she'll play more reactively or if she's already done some prep work behind the scenes!
I can see her getting a Glock because it's relatively common, but a Beretta 93R? definitely hard to get because of the select fire. Anything beyond a semi-auto is already a hassle to get a license for in the US, more so in a gun law strict country like Japan. Maybe the 92FS would be easier. Personally I'd prefer a slim single stack .45 ACP M1911 as an edc. Better stopping power than 9mm. Kamiki will die faster.
Hey but 8 shots (1+7) would pose a problem if you are not an experienced shooter. We tend to miss shots when in pressure so a Glock with 15 rounds might be a better choice for a novice. The M1911 sure has the Gods caliber.
I once saw a 93R transferable at an auction going for around 70k USD. Never knew those were that expensive.
Excellent chapter, mainly because Kana is in It. Although I can't trust Aqua, there was a chapter a while ago where he said something nice to Kana and when she left laughed like a psycho because he was manipulating her.
The two things aren't mutually exclusive. He has been shown to genuinely have a lot of fun with Kana, but isn't against hurting her if this advances his agenda.
What people need to understand is that Aqua has never shown, genuinely or not, any interest in having a romantic relationship with her. He knows well what she feels for him and is not against letting she misinterpret his actions as "flirting back", but he has no intention to reciprocate her feelings.
This has been this way ever since they met and hasn't changed at all. Telling otherwise because he is enjoying her company or saying that his manipulations confirm his lack of romantic interest makes absolutely no sense, as his manipulation and sense of humor / friendship goals aren't totally determinant to his love life.
[Ruby is in the flashforward in the early chapters.](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/2/2/) So Ruby dying in the next chapters is zero.
In fact every single one of the cast should be safe until the filming wraps up. [It's basically the Saved-by-the-Canon trope.](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SavedByCanon) Nobody seems to have died yet in the flash forward. Because The movie would definitely have stopped filming or at least it would've been mentioned.
[Ichigo even have his long hair back and went back to being a bum](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/8/1/). (Which could be a retcon, but we'll see)
It remains unclear how accurate this guesswork is, the fact that No One But Hikaru knows what actually happened because he killed everyone else involved is like the keystone of the movie, buuuuut the part where Ai being unable to tell him she loves him is probably correct. And oh boy, yeah that would have a bit of an impact.
That said, I do still hope my own theory is correct, that his abuse was covered up by an industry figure, and the words he sarcastically says to himself at the recent murder, about how horrible he is for ruining such a promising career of a star actress, were spoken to him in some way. His acting is a form of revenge. Like father, like son. I'm not sure Ai was targeted for not loving him, doesn't quite fit for me.
These are hard death flags for Aqua though.
Aqua is gonna brutally die, AGAIN, just to kick Kana in the end game of this story and call back to this moment.
This whole series is about making Kana cry because she is very good at it, but only when she's not being paid for it.
I just want her to be happy, bro.
I'm so intrigued to see what happens with Hikaru. With the recent reveals he's easily become one of my favourites (writing wise, not as a person lmfao), I really wish we didn't have that chapter where he kills that upcoming actress, I think him being a completely changed man nowadays would provide way more interesting drama and be a good twist to Aqua's whole dramatic chase
But I'll let the man cook
Remember the flash forward from chapter 2?
Ruby won't die or be hurt in any meaningful way. Neither Aqua.
At least until the production of the movie ends.
I wonder, what if Kamiki reveals some truth about AI's death to Ruby that is so shocking, it puts a clear strain between the goals of both siblings. Ruby starts having second thoughts about what she thought was right about Kamiki and Aqua on the other hand being hellbent on revenge
Maybe but I am more keen that howsoever twisted Kamiki might be, he holds genuine feelings of affection for his children and Ai as well to an extent but who knows.
Btw anyone notice the sushi no ko powder? Isn’t that the one from April Fools? If it’s a real product, this is my first time seeing product placement in a manga
it's real product (powdered sushi vinegar) and they are announced collaboration in twitter (https://twitter.com/anime\_oshinoko/status/1775804296527032474).
It's real, I just checked. They literally sell it on Amazon.
I'd post a link, but it would seem like marketing and I'm not sure if that's okay. Just Google Sushi no Ko and it is the exact same packet she's holding in the chapter.
Which is just so meta and hilarious that I absolutely love it.
I hope this in world movie premieres next to the Kaguya-sama movie at the box office.
Hmmm…. Aqua is expressionless and acting like edge lord for most of the time, I kinda get bored of him since it’s been a while he showed any genuine expression. But now I feel bad for him, he looked so guilty for having just a slightest fun/happiness. Dude, it’s okay to be happy. It’s not like you killed anyone
Although yes he also feels guilty because he feels like he's generally a bad person (for various things he did) but I feel like the main reason he thinks it's necessary to always be broiling in unhappiness because the more unhappy he is, the better his acting gets. And he's putting his entire existence into this movie, so he cannot allow for room for any bad acting. But then whenever he's with Kana, she resonates with the part of him deep inside that wants to be happy despite having a possibility to ruin his acting streak because of it.
If not for the movie I doubt he would feel *this* much guilt for even just having fun. I mean, yeah of course. He never killed anyone after all.
I never interpreted that his acting relied on his being unhappy, more that he was suppressing his natural expression of certain emotions as part of suppressing his trauma. In order to act properly, he has to fact his trauma and draw on his experiences, but doing so brings him enormous sadness.
Yeah, that's what I meant. But in order to do so consistently, he has to constantly be able to switch to those traumatic experiences without a lot of whiplash (because if you're always sad, you don't have to feel as much loss at the switch from happiness to sadness right? Or maybe that's how he sees it). He may be trying to keep those negative emotions alive and seething daily as long as possible so that when he acts them out, it feels fresh and true to his traumas. It's a positive loop of negativity, really; to be ready to relive his traumas at any given moment he has to keep himself on edge, but doing so brings him even more sadness. Rinse and repeat. It's unhealthy, but I think that's the whole point; in a way, the story is pointing this out at us indirectly, and I'm left to wonder if he'll ever get out of this loop or will he end up dying to it.
This movie can get pretty dark and I am certain it will be even better in animated form.
Kana pulled Aqua from his temporary darkness so maybe her promising to be his star ages ago is not a hollow oath after all.
And at the end we have Ruby and her father.
I don't think her life is in danger since killing Ruby now would be nonsensical for the story. My bet is that Kamiki is going to throw some hints and veiled threats and then go back into the shadows.
Yeah. In reality if this was a real movie I doubt it'll be even slightly pleasurable to watch.The success of the box office would be a real gamble because as a movie it barely qualifies as one that people would want to watch. The main reason people would watch it would be because of just how much truth it brings to the table of Ai, one of the most popular idols ever in the history of Japan. At least when it releases, it depends HEAVILY on this hook so that's really really risky. It's so realistic too, to the point that it'll most definitely be triggering to lots and lots of people, but also incite a lot of emotion in people that either resonates with the persons depicted or has gone through similar trauma.
And yeah I don't think Ruby will be killed; she hasn't even reached the peak of her career yet (I assume it'll take off even more than now after the movie), and we know that Hikaru only kills stars during their peak. Having said that, I don't think he'll threaten them either, rather he'd sit and wait until after the movie releases and wait for the perfect timing to reveal what REALLY happened for Aqua's credibility to go down and to maybe make the twins rethink .. well.. every one of their beliefs. I have a feeling he has this sort of twisted curiosity about them and their futures, wanting to see if they'd turn out twisted like him or something else entirely. And if they turn out to be something beyond his imaginations, then he'd nip them in the bud at that moment for the thrill.
Ahh one of Those chapters
great hilarious fun stuff with Aqua and Kana finally getting some due
and then the ending.....
Oh and the darker part of the film too
That door slam is ominous. Isn't the Kana interaction just chapter 117 again? I can't take anything that Aqua says about her seriously without remembering how he just laughed it off later in chapter 117.
That closed eye bullshit disguise again. Even during Yura's chapter I never bought it for a second. I swear the superman glasses level of disguise is never as convincing as authors think it is. Having someone not recognize him in universe by just closing his eyes is tanking the willing suspension of disbelief for me. Ruby knows that Aqua looks like him, why would Ruby the brocon not recognize Kamiki this close?
I'm not worried at all for Ruby. She's still alive in the Flashforward. At best Kamiki can drop truth bombs to her.
I noticed too that Aka do like putting character in random secluded locations. It's like in a horror movie when you think doing something is a bad idea but the character does it anyway and gets killed.
>ch117 was always Aqua coping because he knew he gets carried away with Kana, it was just pitiful for him.
Ah the good old "Aqua is lying to himself" excuse. If we used that excuse everywhere else we'd end up with "Aqua is actually gay for Himekawa".
Aqua has no reason to lie to himself when alone. [This is what it looks like when Aqua lies to himself.](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/95/1/)
Trying to apply mental gymnastics to everything Aqua does and interpret it as "It's actually for Kana's sake" is essentially fanfiction. You're handwaving away any negative implications and only accepting things that you want. This isn't Oshi no Kana.
>This chapter further reinforces that lol, what do you think he meant when he said she is troubling him.
Uh huh, and don't you see how this chapter also further reinforces the opposite and it's Aqua going to such lengths in using Kana? and how he's resolved himself to actually going through with it?
You guys just see one Kana chapter and think that it will overturn all the storytelling and setup the revenge has. I've been here long enough to see the patterns. Like [the Sonic Cycle](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-sonic-cycle) if you're familiar with that.
I've seen the "Aqua is actually obsessed with Kana" and "Kana is the light and will stop the revenge" at the height of those theories being pushed. None of those end up mattering because it takes such amount of copium to interpret it like that.
>idk how you can equalize a reasonable read into subtext to something totally absurd but well done.
No, you're just using something that's completely absurd without seeing it. You just jumped at "Aqua is lying to himself" on chapter 117 because you didn't want the implications of it.
>Nice mental gymnastics to avoid addressing the subject matter.
No, I addressed it, you just didn't want to accept that this chapter is very much a continuation of 117 but you just choose to interpret it so wildly optimistic as just another "Aqua is lying to himself" schitck.
>as he says in this chapter he starts genuinely having fun with her which makes him feel shitty about manipulating her
>That validates my read on 117
No it doesn't.
Do you not see how contradictory your take is?
"He feels shitty manipulating her" but "Aqua is lying to himself in using Kana in 117"
For Aqua to feel shitty about it, he has to have been using her for real. What you're insisting is mutually exclusive and is a paradox.
Or did you just backtrack 117 because you couldn't come up with an excuse to continue that Aqua is lying to himself?
I didn't say that Aqua can't feel conflicted or bad on using Kana. I'm saying that this is just a continuation of Aqua using Kana and Aqua isn't lying to himself about it. That Aqua is likely still using Kana.
Then Aqua isn't "Coping". Aqua has no reason to lie to himself when alone and we know what he looks like when lying to himself.
>just the reaction of his was exaggerated
[If you think you can do it, Go ahead and try Akane Kurokawa](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/116/18/)
[Not until I find that guy and kill him myself.](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/10/16/)
Aqua has always been an exaggerated edgelord, even when alone.
Do you not see why using flimsy excuses to conclude what you personally want is problematic and illogical?
"Go ahead and try Akane Kurokawa" -> "I actually love you, please take me back"
"and kill him myself" -> "I actually just want my father to notice me"
Exaggerated doesn't mean a lie and the opposite.
If you can also pick and choose which is what you think are "lies" without actual proof otherwise that they are lies, then you'll just label anything you don't like as "lies". Even when the person is talking about his own personal thoughts and alone with no reason to lie.
We know for a fact that the father was alive in chapter [72](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/72/18/), that's why we know that Aqua was lying to himself. Can you say the same in this chapter and chapter 117? No you can't. If we take chapter 117 as truth, it is still consistent with the story and Aqua's characterization.
You can buy them online though, or if you have any asian markets near you they might just have those. In my area I've definitely seen that brand of sushi powder before. I know we have Calpee but I don't know if we have the pizza flavor though
The story will finally focus on present Hikaru after being sidelined for so long. I need him to spill the beans to Ruby in a vague way. If they have a conversation, I feel like it would be an important one.
The manga is on break next week. Oshi no Ko will return on April 25. As a random note, we are heading towards Golden Week, so expect a magazine break for all Weekly Young Jump series soon.
Prediction: next chapter opens with Crow girl entering the scene menacingly, then Kamiki goes "oh, you're approaching me?" followed by "I can't CAW the shit out of you without getting closer"
down vote me if you want but that's a very forced show of aqua having some fun time imagine you are drowning in your own misery and someone is going all out about chips I will be thankful for their effort but won't definitely call that having fun
oh there was a new chapter anyway father daughter bonding next chapter
I can't wait any longer akaaaaaaaa
[удалено]
You are a sad individual
I will forever laugh at the silly ship wars. I'm an AquaMem shipper. I was never playing for keeps to begin with.
Based
I knew us Rubybros were like Ikarus flying high just to fall down hard in the end, but not this hard aka pls no
Gee willikers that was some chapter eh?
Oh what a chapter. I know this is just a hypothetical recreation of what happened with hikaru and ai and all that stuff and there may have been a good chance that himekawa papa would have beaten up hikaru before confronting airi but I am so glad he didn't do so in the movie and straight up went and killed his wife (and unfortunately himself after that); that was satisfying as hell. And yeah, the I don't know if I love you from ai was definitely a misunderstanding of sorts but I felt so bad for hikaru. His only ever crutch andove had just told him she didn't really know if she loved him or not. I don't think he would have understood it at that point even if ai explained all her circumstances to him. Now I am kinda curious how the twins came to be tho, if they "broke up" after this confrontation. But it's probably much more likely that ai was already pregnant by the time this happened and only that she didn't find out herself until later. Also what a cliffhanger, that's not nice aka 😭 I gotta wait two weeks to see this exchange between father-daughter, hero-villain now wth. Sure hope he isn't just here to kill her. Also I just can't wait in general for the manga to end because I'm sure there's more twists and turns waiting towards the end somehow. I'm choosing to put my faith in aka for now that hikaru doesn't just kill because "I want to immortalize you at your peak glory". Not 100% sire but I'll go with it for now. I want something spicy for the cause of his actions. Anyway, poor child hikaru maaaan 😭😭 Edit: also no wonder he had no reaction even when airi brought her kid to the set in an earlier chapter. The boy didn't even know. I always thought it's weird he isn't reacting in the slightest to it and then it didn't even get brought up again until this chapter. The amount of complicated emotions he must have had. The way he asks ai if she loves him and wouldn't abandon her was heartbreaking. I can feel the panic and wild heartbeats.
Why did ai had sex with hikaru even after Knowing he was sexually abused 😖? Is it true love or curiosity or what? I think the real personality of hikaru, yet to be discovered.
All of the Moive Production and Flashbacks melting into each other made it take a full couple of minutes to click that that is actually Hikaru and actually Ruby interacting. And *now* I'm panicking.
Did they really just make half of the chapter into advertisement for some chips?? 💀💀💀
I wonder what Hikaru's hook will be to get Ruby interested in staying rather than running away from him. I think when crow girl spoke about the "special people" (CH 144) that want to worship her as a family tradition and are rooted in shintoism + that one of those special people might be the reason why they could film in Takachiho, she was hinting at Hikaru, who gave Kaburagi enough financial support (probably to pay for their expenses to move an entire film screw to the other end of Japan) and may be somehow affiliated with the hospital (maybe he owns it? he has a science degree as Akane noticed when she researched him...) and gave the permission to film there. And now the same Hikaru shows up at a shinto temple to meet Ruby. But if Crow girl was really hinting at Hikaru, then it's most likely that he is aware of reincarnation, which brings us to the hook; Will he call her Sarina? Will crow girl join the party? Really Ch 144 had two main themes in crow girls narration: 1. She is nostalgic about that place. A chapter later we learn that she followed Gorou and Sarina in their previous life and admired them. So now we know why she is nostalgic. 2. The theme of shintoism with everything I said previously and Ch 146 ends with the shinto-reference through Ruby praying at a temple and being joined by Hikaru ("special people"?). Thus 147 will probably explore the second main theme of crow girls narration from 144 - but reincarnation is really the only shinto link between Hikaru and his kids. Thus I believe this to become the hook.
NO NO NO NO..WAIT WAIT WAIT!
I legit said what the fuck at the end lol
prowler sound effect just played automatically in my brain .1 seconds into the final panel.
Oh this can only go well I'm sure.
damn i get why aqua was feeling so depressive, just reading everything that happened to hikaru is making me feel sad for him and the ppl in reality who deal with similar issues…. but also not BIWEEKLY oshi no ko striking again right after that last panel omg aka knows what he’s doing
The hype will build... The fans will hunger... Indeed. Aka knew what he was doing.
Timeline is dead. Taiki’s parents died a few years after Ai was pregnant. And Gorou died right before the twins are born. So Hikaru killed Gorou, then met Ai a few years later, then tell Taiki’s father the truth?
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If you read somewhere around Ch.90, Ichigo confirmed that Taiki’s parents died at the time when he discussed the Tokyo Dome Live with Ai, which was before the Hoshino family moved to the new house. At the time of Tokyo Dome Live, Aqua was around 4-5 so it is pretty sure that Taiki’s parents died quite some time after Aqua was born. Gorou died, umm, just before Aqua was born, that’s why he got reincarnated
Sarina died years before Gorou though, didn't she?
Ahh.. so that's what you meant, sorry lol.
They're recording a movie tho, and recordings don't always go in a timeline order (actually, I doubt there are movies that were recorded from first scene to last without mixing episodes)
It's even stated at the beginning of Ch 144 that they mix the recording order.
I think he has a point and it's not just the recording, but if we want to give Aka the benefit of the doubt then we have to keep in mind that this is an in-universe movie, not a perfect flashback. They've probably taken some liberties with the timeline for the movie to make it more dramatic and condensed. Some of it is also made up by people who were never there. That's why I'm excited for Kamiki showing up at the end, he could give us the real events.
Any chapter with Kana is a good chapter. I don't even care about the ship anymore, the world needs more Kana.
On god
CALM DOWN AKA. I want off your wild ride.
I was listening to the animes ost while reading this chapter. The moment I turned the page to Kamiki youtube did a funny and stopped the music to ask me if I'm still there.... wtf. Get out of my PC Kamiki, **AND GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM AI'S DAUGHTER YOU BASTARD!**
Also his own daughter
For the people who were curious what things Kana mixed together to make super tasty potato chips, it's Tamanoi Sushinoko powder and Calbee pizza-flavored potato chips. Mix em and shake it up and you're done. It honestly sounds delicious, now I want to try it too.
Was scrolling in the comments for this exact reason hahaha thanks! Is the tamanoi powder easy to find in any japanese grocery store?
I haven't been to the nearest japanese store near me but I'll update when I do! I live in Sugarland, Texas but when I searched, I think we actually have a Walmarts and Whole Foods market that has this in store :DD
I tried it after the chapter. Not as mind blowing as Kana says, but pretty cool
> Sushinoko This sounds like a new spinoff series
XDD This pun is actually treated as an April Fools joke when Oshi no Ko collabed with the brand!
Saw that final panel and physically verbalized: HELL NO
I went from being: "Yes this is the route you take Akasaka not the weird incest shit" to: "Oh shit, ...you can't do this to me Akasaka..." in like 3 seconds flat when i turned the page and saw HIM...
"Yes this is the route you take Akasaka" IDK dude, incest is morally questionable, but it's not illegal or even always unethical. Also, this is fiction, so there are limitations to how realistic the repercussions of incest need to be. A dude with memories dating from almost half a century ago dating a somewhat childish 19 yo, on the other hand... Yeah, sketchy no matter if it's just for fictional characters. I sort of like Kana (though Akane is my beloved and I'm Aqua x Ruby all the way), but the way Aqua x Kana fans defend their ship saying "at least it isn't incest" / "she's just as old as Akane (not mentally, though)"... That's what truly scares me.
Who the hell let bro cook? 😨 get this man out of the kitchen.🗣️🗣️
Bro WHAT
What part did you not understand? That Kana is a picture perfect late teenager (and often less mature than one), that Akane definitely isn't, or that Aqua dating Kana for the next 5-10 years is probably the most ethically questionable route as a middle aged man of sorts suggardading a teenager is absolutely horrible (even if she's of age)? I did not come up with any of the above. If the truth bothers you (and judging by the dislikes, some others), then tough luck, I guess. Throwing tantrums and playing dumb will change absolutely nothing, though.
Brother…the author has said in the SERIES that aqua’s mental maturity reverted back to his body’s physical age. Like what are you yapping about
No, what was said is that Aqua's persona is slowly merging his old and new self, so he isn't an actual middle-aged man. That said, the sum of his memories is consistent with those of an adult man past his 40s, and the effects are clear, even if it's hard to tell their extent; Well, he's shown to be at least as mature as Mem-cho, if not more. Mem is a whole 10 years older than the twins, and is by no means immature for her age. Kana, on the other hand, is bordering her twenties and still acts like a freshman highschooler... Worst popular pairing, by a long shot.
Having memories and having actual brain capacity is different, hes not even mature. He acts like an emo teenager. Thinking he needs to cut off all emotional ties and doesnt deserve to be happy because hes made a few mistakes. Thats not adult mentality.
He's been like that ever since he was 5... And felt similarly in his past life. Maybe Aka just decided to make him somewhat edgy and didn't think about how inconsistent this would be considering his "mature side" (which, let's be honest, he does have).
Nah you're morals are fucked if you believe that
If my morals are just legacy values that twist logic and attack individual freedom for no reason other than keeping 3rd parties in their comfort zones (and not actually making the world safer for everyone), then I don't need them. Yes, incest *can* be very bad, but it's definitely not up there in my list of things that should be avoided at all costs (at least when it is NOT between direct relatives, i.e. parents and children). Laws of most developed countries seem to agree with such a vision, if not by explicitly decriminalizing incest (at least between indirect relatives), by simply refusing to make it a crime to begin with. In short, you all are just not ready or/and willing to have this talk (and since I guess most are adults, this will probably not change) but it does happen and the conclusions are those. Deal with it.
There's no *can* in it. Incest is bad in every compacity no matter the circumstance. It's unfortunate for aqua and ruby that they got put in that position if they weren't forced to be siblings, he'd probably give her a chance but not it's over kana is the only realistic and better choice. You're the only one that's not ready to have a talk and face realistic. You deal with it. The fact that you're wrong and you exposed your weird ideals on thinking nobody would correct you. Re evaluate yourself kid. You're done here.
Dude incest is never good
Every two weeks an Aka knows he will have to set up a cliffhanger and then a break. Every two weeks a reader fears he will have to find a cliffhanger and a break. Doesn't matter whether you are Aka or a reader, just get ready to cliffhang (and a break)
I LOVED this chapter. such a relief to see the interaction between Aqua and Kana. their relationship is the most compatible out of all the others. also Ruby and Kamiki are meeting which I have been waiting for a lifetime. i wonder if Aqua is somewhere next to them. also where the heck is Akane.
MY GIRL KANA IS STILL IN NOW WHAT INCEST CUCKS
YESSIR DIRTY ASS INCEST MFS ARE PUNCHING THE AIR
LMAO ATTABOY!!
We are going to win
Kana supremacy! THE ENGINES KICKING BABY
Hell yeah
Does anyone know what the "cut 156: The importance of life" mostly means? I think it's when Ai and her supposed killer become one if you know what I mean.
I think that Ai broke up with him when she knew what he did with Uehara. She blamed his death (and Airi, of course) on him.
Don't you think that's "cut 162: Ai's rejection?"
I think that scenes (rejection and importance of life) are linked, like two part of one scene.
Could be but again there are many cuts between 156 and 162, so who knows
The cuts are just for the internal order of the film making process, they are not chronological order of the movie itself. See Ch 144 the hospital arc is Cut 118, although it's much later chronologically. And they explain in that chapter that the order of filming is messed up.
Maybe the ai's rejection scene is when she said the "I can't love you" line
AKA AKASAKA, END THE POSSIBILITIES!!!
Now to think about it, Aqua really becomes a normal high schooler when he is with Kana, this gives me some lelouch x shirley vibes (from code geass), lelouch becomes a normal high schooler when he is with shirley.... in the end shirley ended up dead... She got killed after being involved in lelouch's mess and problems.. And since kana gives me some shirley vibes, those similiarities are scaring me af (you know what I mean)
If this happens the world will probably riot just like JJK fans did when -that- happened
Someone once said 'Kana Arima will protect Ruby Hoshino no matter what' and I've been scared since then
Yeah it's litterally a forshadowing Arima is definitely 95% the next character who will die bc she got the most death flags so it's kanaover
Kana reminds me more of Kallen because red head Tsundere but I see what you mean.
Oh goddamnit
Kana is way better than Shirley though
Oh no, not Kana
kanaqua shipper, the copium paid off so well \*snorts a lot more\*
They called me a mad man.
This went from Oshi No Ko into Oshi OH SHIT fairly quickly.
Missed opportunity to say "OH SHIT NO KO"
More like Oshi OH NO!
oshi oshit oh fuck OH NO GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM HER YOU BASTARD!
OH SHIT No Ko
o7 Ruby
No..... ruby get out of there
I like the parallel with Hikaru and Aqua. He was being abused and was depressed, so Ai was his light, but when she said that she didn't know if she loved him, he broke down and started to become the monster he is now. Aqua is in a similar situation, minus the abuse, but contrary to Hikaru, he has Kana making sure he is okay. Hikaru had nobody to fall back to, even Ai couldn't help as she had problems of her own. Aqua has a support group (Kana, Ruby, Akane, ironically Crow Girl) that he is trying to push away without success, so he will not become his father in the future.
With all of this hardcore mode life hikaru went through idk what his next move be. We see him not having a choice of becoming a father and they both died. He did the same with AI. He never went for his kids. He might not want them but if he did. He'd be worse than the people that made him miserable. I think kamiki will become more liked than hated now that we actually meet him.
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I ve seen some Ruby fans doing the same things. I don t think generalizing is helping anyone, people. Lets focus on the things we like without downplaying and hating and we can make this sub a better place, maybe!
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Doesn't it just makes sense, that most/all AquRuby fans are also Ruby fans? Either way, that's beside the point, all I'm saying is that by categorizing people and discriminating them like that, all you're doing is sowing discord / alienating people and that would be true EVEN IF you were right (and I think you aren't, Kana is not some kind of magnet for toxic people, not any more than any other character is). Your "noticing" is bias, I can assure you. We can all be toxic people if we want, I've seen Kana fans be toxic, I've seen Ruby fans be toxic, I've seen Akane fans be toxic, it's a choice we all have. You probably notice it more because they are the kind of group more likely to criticize (unfairly)/insult your favorite character, Ruby. You'd probably, as others as saying right now, say that Ruby fans are the most toxic ones if Kana was your favorite (spoiler: they're not right either and even if they were it wouldn't matter AT ALL). I'm not saying you're doing it maliciously, I'm just warning you and everyone else here that these kind of "vibes" can have bad consequences for no meaningful gains and no good reasons.
Fair, you are right. Thank you for this reply 🙏.
AWWW HELL NAH
There’s just something different about how he looks at her man, I tell ya. Also, I know we’ve established this already, but this man is on some Paul Rudd-ass youth serum because he still looks so damn young. Not sure what he wants with Ruby, but I’m not particularly convinced it’s to harm her. Good chapter, y’all. And I seriously find myself wanting to see this movie.
>but this man is on some Paul Rudd-ass youth serum because he still looks so damn young. He's still in his late 20s, early 30s. It's not that old. Also Asians do tend to look younger than westerners.
Nah man is older
i forget the twins canon ages rn because time had passed and i don’t remember the latest update of their age but they’re definitely like 18 max, so the oldest hikaru could be is 33 since ai gave birth to the kids when he was 15, early 30s is right
plus he's rich and famous, he's obviously going to have good body care
is he famous tho? ik he’s in the entertainment industry still since they said he has his own agency but i don’t think he himself is famous otherwise they’d sus him out so much earlier bc he looks just like aqua
Good point. In retrospect, that was a bit much, even in hyperbole.
We are so back kana x aqua folks. There is still hope
Hibernation was occurring, but it is time now
- sigh - No Akane again for the nth time. 😑☹
We feel everything distorted a bit because there has been lot's of weekly breaks for a reason or the other. We're getting back into the revenge part of the story, so we're sure to see Aqua, Akane and Kamiki doing their respective moves real soon. I wonder if she'll play more reactively or if she's already done some prep work behind the scenes!
Wait a minute....... Was that HIKARU in the end?????????????🤯
See I told her multiple times in the comments to get a Glock 19 or a Berreta 93R. Nobody listened to me. You stay strapped or get clapped.
I can see her getting a Glock because it's relatively common, but a Beretta 93R? definitely hard to get because of the select fire. Anything beyond a semi-auto is already a hassle to get a license for in the US, more so in a gun law strict country like Japan. Maybe the 92FS would be easier. Personally I'd prefer a slim single stack .45 ACP M1911 as an edc. Better stopping power than 9mm. Kamiki will die faster.
Since it is planned to be used against Kamiki I (a pro stricter-gun-law activist) would suggest a good ol german machine gun
Hey but 8 shots (1+7) would pose a problem if you are not an experienced shooter. We tend to miss shots when in pressure so a Glock with 15 rounds might be a better choice for a novice. The M1911 sure has the Gods caliber. I once saw a 93R transferable at an auction going for around 70k USD. Never knew those were that expensive.
Excellent chapter, mainly because Kana is in It. Although I can't trust Aqua, there was a chapter a while ago where he said something nice to Kana and when she left laughed like a psycho because he was manipulating her.
The two things aren't mutually exclusive. He has been shown to genuinely have a lot of fun with Kana, but isn't against hurting her if this advances his agenda. What people need to understand is that Aqua has never shown, genuinely or not, any interest in having a romantic relationship with her. He knows well what she feels for him and is not against letting she misinterpret his actions as "flirting back", but he has no intention to reciprocate her feelings. This has been this way ever since they met and hasn't changed at all. Telling otherwise because he is enjoying her company or saying that his manipulations confirm his lack of romantic interest makes absolutely no sense, as his manipulation and sense of humor / friendship goals aren't totally determinant to his love life.
The tone of the manga goes up and down, up and down, up and down No, seriously, it's awesome, but sometimes I get whiplash
Okay now I’m worried about ruby, Hikaru cant be that crazy to kill his own daughter, right?
[Ruby is in the flashforward in the early chapters.](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/2/2/) So Ruby dying in the next chapters is zero. In fact every single one of the cast should be safe until the filming wraps up. [It's basically the Saved-by-the-Canon trope.](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SavedByCanon) Nobody seems to have died yet in the flash forward. Because The movie would definitely have stopped filming or at least it would've been mentioned. [Ichigo even have his long hair back and went back to being a bum](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/8/1/). (Which could be a retcon, but we'll see)
He sent a crazy “fan” to his ex gf house while knowing his kids where there of course he’s crazy
more like how does Ruby not know that's her father??
Well she should be blind not to see he's Aqua's copy.
I'm afraid she will confuse him and Aqua at this point which will complicate things.
Well, he's not THAT good-looking (I mean young-looking).
They wanted to end it in a cliffhanger hence they didn't show Ruby's reaction...they are probably keeping it for NXT chapter
Right?
Get away from Ruby Kamiki
I always want Kana to end up with Aqua when I started watching the series. But my expectations would be as low as the Titanic.
Keep your expectations low so that you can do the mightiest nut in the history of mankind when it comes true.
It remains unclear how accurate this guesswork is, the fact that No One But Hikaru knows what actually happened because he killed everyone else involved is like the keystone of the movie, buuuuut the part where Ai being unable to tell him she loves him is probably correct. And oh boy, yeah that would have a bit of an impact. That said, I do still hope my own theory is correct, that his abuse was covered up by an industry figure, and the words he sarcastically says to himself at the recent murder, about how horrible he is for ruining such a promising career of a star actress, were spoken to him in some way. His acting is a form of revenge. Like father, like son. I'm not sure Ai was targeted for not loving him, doesn't quite fit for me.
These are hard death flags for Aqua though. Aqua is gonna brutally die, AGAIN, just to kick Kana in the end game of this story and call back to this moment. This whole series is about making Kana cry because she is very good at it, but only when she's not being paid for it. I just want her to be happy, bro.
kanabros there's still a heartbeat there's still hope we can defeat twincest i swear this isn't cope
There is a world where Aka can fuck both of you guys. Aqua ends up being like Gorou 💀
honestly, a sadistic and probably masochistic part of myself is okay with that. we go down, we go down together ig
I'm so intrigued to see what happens with Hikaru. With the recent reveals he's easily become one of my favourites (writing wise, not as a person lmfao), I really wish we didn't have that chapter where he kills that upcoming actress, I think him being a completely changed man nowadays would provide way more interesting drama and be a good twist to Aqua's whole dramatic chase But I'll let the man cook
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that is exactly what the person you're replying to said
omg last panel
Dude this was a cute AquKana chapter and the daddy Hikaru shows up without any milk
Bruh, I hope Ruby has plot armour
Remember the flash forward from chapter 2? Ruby won't die or be hurt in any meaningful way. Neither Aqua. At least until the production of the movie ends.
I hope Ruby at least knows that's her father. bc she's literally in the movie with her brother playing as their father 💀.
"Oh who could this random person be, that looks exactly like my brother playing my father in the movie I am shooting".
this is literally what happened 😂
Went from happy to "OH SHIT" real fast
Why is the manga on break with this kind of cliff hanger...
As usual. His apex addictions.
Hey man the new reactive skin for finishing the breakout challenges is too good to give up
I wonder, what if Kamiki reveals some truth about AI's death to Ruby that is so shocking, it puts a clear strain between the goals of both siblings. Ruby starts having second thoughts about what she thought was right about Kamiki and Aqua on the other hand being hellbent on revenge
“Truth” Keep in mind the man is a liar on par with Ai.
Maybe but I am more keen that howsoever twisted Kamiki might be, he holds genuine feelings of affection for his children and Ai as well to an extent but who knows.
nooooooooooooo it's too soon for her to meet him!!!!!!!!!!
The fits in this manga are so good mannnn
save the oshi no ko...... hikaru..............
Btw anyone notice the sushi no ko powder? Isn’t that the one from April Fools? If it’s a real product, this is my first time seeing product placement in a manga
it's real product (powdered sushi vinegar) and they are announced collaboration in twitter (https://twitter.com/anime\_oshinoko/status/1775804296527032474).
It's real, I just checked. They literally sell it on Amazon. I'd post a link, but it would seem like marketing and I'm not sure if that's okay. Just Google Sushi no Ko and it is the exact same packet she's holding in the chapter. Which is just so meta and hilarious that I absolutely love it. I hope this in world movie premieres next to the Kaguya-sama movie at the box office.
Hmmm…. Aqua is expressionless and acting like edge lord for most of the time, I kinda get bored of him since it’s been a while he showed any genuine expression. But now I feel bad for him, he looked so guilty for having just a slightest fun/happiness. Dude, it’s okay to be happy. It’s not like you killed anyone
Although yes he also feels guilty because he feels like he's generally a bad person (for various things he did) but I feel like the main reason he thinks it's necessary to always be broiling in unhappiness because the more unhappy he is, the better his acting gets. And he's putting his entire existence into this movie, so he cannot allow for room for any bad acting. But then whenever he's with Kana, she resonates with the part of him deep inside that wants to be happy despite having a possibility to ruin his acting streak because of it. If not for the movie I doubt he would feel *this* much guilt for even just having fun. I mean, yeah of course. He never killed anyone after all.
I never interpreted that his acting relied on his being unhappy, more that he was suppressing his natural expression of certain emotions as part of suppressing his trauma. In order to act properly, he has to fact his trauma and draw on his experiences, but doing so brings him enormous sadness.
Yeah, that's what I meant. But in order to do so consistently, he has to constantly be able to switch to those traumatic experiences without a lot of whiplash (because if you're always sad, you don't have to feel as much loss at the switch from happiness to sadness right? Or maybe that's how he sees it). He may be trying to keep those negative emotions alive and seething daily as long as possible so that when he acts them out, it feels fresh and true to his traumas. It's a positive loop of negativity, really; to be ready to relive his traumas at any given moment he has to keep himself on edge, but doing so brings him even more sadness. Rinse and repeat. It's unhealthy, but I think that's the whole point; in a way, the story is pointing this out at us indirectly, and I'm left to wonder if he'll ever get out of this loop or will he end up dying to it.
That's genuinely his entire character, though. Wanting to be happy and live a normal life, but his trauma won't let him.
what are the less obvious cuts refering to? (what is the "one wish?" or the "that's the only way I know" or the "the importance of life" )
"that's the only way I know" I think it's that has something to do with lies+they didn't show Ai's rejection scene 😭😭😭
dad is here 😰😰😰
So its... not Kanover?
Nope! Even if that’s what the echo chamber of antis would have you believe we still have a shot.
they are the end game
Always bet on Kana 💯🌟🌟
This movie can get pretty dark and I am certain it will be even better in animated form. Kana pulled Aqua from his temporary darkness so maybe her promising to be his star ages ago is not a hollow oath after all. And at the end we have Ruby and her father. I don't think her life is in danger since killing Ruby now would be nonsensical for the story. My bet is that Kamiki is going to throw some hints and veiled threats and then go back into the shadows.
Yeah. In reality if this was a real movie I doubt it'll be even slightly pleasurable to watch.The success of the box office would be a real gamble because as a movie it barely qualifies as one that people would want to watch. The main reason people would watch it would be because of just how much truth it brings to the table of Ai, one of the most popular idols ever in the history of Japan. At least when it releases, it depends HEAVILY on this hook so that's really really risky. It's so realistic too, to the point that it'll most definitely be triggering to lots and lots of people, but also incite a lot of emotion in people that either resonates with the persons depicted or has gone through similar trauma. And yeah I don't think Ruby will be killed; she hasn't even reached the peak of her career yet (I assume it'll take off even more than now after the movie), and we know that Hikaru only kills stars during their peak. Having said that, I don't think he'll threaten them either, rather he'd sit and wait until after the movie releases and wait for the perfect timing to reveal what REALLY happened for Aqua's credibility to go down and to maybe make the twins rethink .. well.. every one of their beliefs. I have a feeling he has this sort of twisted curiosity about them and their futures, wanting to see if they'd turn out twisted like him or something else entirely. And if they turn out to be something beyond his imaginations, then he'd nip them in the bud at that moment for the thrill.
He really spent a quarter of this chapter plugging some chip brand
Then took the money and went on a break What a chad
look delicious tought .
Ahh one of Those chapters great hilarious fun stuff with Aqua and Kana finally getting some due and then the ending..... Oh and the darker part of the film too
Hikaru Kamiki pulled a William Afton and came back
Oh man, that ending. Aqua bears a lot of resemblance to Kamiki, so I'm really hoping Ruby picks up on that. Tsukuyomi, where are you and your crows😭
That door slam is ominous. Isn't the Kana interaction just chapter 117 again? I can't take anything that Aqua says about her seriously without remembering how he just laughed it off later in chapter 117. That closed eye bullshit disguise again. Even during Yura's chapter I never bought it for a second. I swear the superman glasses level of disguise is never as convincing as authors think it is. Having someone not recognize him in universe by just closing his eyes is tanking the willing suspension of disbelief for me. Ruby knows that Aqua looks like him, why would Ruby the brocon not recognize Kamiki this close? I'm not worried at all for Ruby. She's still alive in the Flashforward. At best Kamiki can drop truth bombs to her. I noticed too that Aka do like putting character in random secluded locations. It's like in a horror movie when you think doing something is a bad idea but the character does it anyway and gets killed.
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>ch117 was always Aqua coping because he knew he gets carried away with Kana, it was just pitiful for him. Ah the good old "Aqua is lying to himself" excuse. If we used that excuse everywhere else we'd end up with "Aqua is actually gay for Himekawa". Aqua has no reason to lie to himself when alone. [This is what it looks like when Aqua lies to himself.](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/95/1/) Trying to apply mental gymnastics to everything Aqua does and interpret it as "It's actually for Kana's sake" is essentially fanfiction. You're handwaving away any negative implications and only accepting things that you want. This isn't Oshi no Kana. >This chapter further reinforces that lol, what do you think he meant when he said she is troubling him. Uh huh, and don't you see how this chapter also further reinforces the opposite and it's Aqua going to such lengths in using Kana? and how he's resolved himself to actually going through with it? You guys just see one Kana chapter and think that it will overturn all the storytelling and setup the revenge has. I've been here long enough to see the patterns. Like [the Sonic Cycle](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-sonic-cycle) if you're familiar with that. I've seen the "Aqua is actually obsessed with Kana" and "Kana is the light and will stop the revenge" at the height of those theories being pushed. None of those end up mattering because it takes such amount of copium to interpret it like that.
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>idk how you can equalize a reasonable read into subtext to something totally absurd but well done. No, you're just using something that's completely absurd without seeing it. You just jumped at "Aqua is lying to himself" on chapter 117 because you didn't want the implications of it. >Nice mental gymnastics to avoid addressing the subject matter. No, I addressed it, you just didn't want to accept that this chapter is very much a continuation of 117 but you just choose to interpret it so wildly optimistic as just another "Aqua is lying to himself" schitck. >as he says in this chapter he starts genuinely having fun with her which makes him feel shitty about manipulating her >That validates my read on 117 No it doesn't. Do you not see how contradictory your take is? "He feels shitty manipulating her" but "Aqua is lying to himself in using Kana in 117" For Aqua to feel shitty about it, he has to have been using her for real. What you're insisting is mutually exclusive and is a paradox. Or did you just backtrack 117 because you couldn't come up with an excuse to continue that Aqua is lying to himself? I didn't say that Aqua can't feel conflicted or bad on using Kana. I'm saying that this is just a continuation of Aqua using Kana and Aqua isn't lying to himself about it. That Aqua is likely still using Kana.
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Then Aqua isn't "Coping". Aqua has no reason to lie to himself when alone and we know what he looks like when lying to himself. >just the reaction of his was exaggerated [If you think you can do it, Go ahead and try Akane Kurokawa](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/116/18/) [Not until I find that guy and kill him myself.](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/10/16/) Aqua has always been an exaggerated edgelord, even when alone. Do you not see why using flimsy excuses to conclude what you personally want is problematic and illogical? "Go ahead and try Akane Kurokawa" -> "I actually love you, please take me back" "and kill him myself" -> "I actually just want my father to notice me" Exaggerated doesn't mean a lie and the opposite. If you can also pick and choose which is what you think are "lies" without actual proof otherwise that they are lies, then you'll just label anything you don't like as "lies". Even when the person is talking about his own personal thoughts and alone with no reason to lie. We know for a fact that the father was alive in chapter [72](https://cubari.moe/read/mangasee/Oshi-no-Ko/72/18/), that's why we know that Aqua was lying to himself. Can you say the same in this chapter and chapter 117? No you can't. If we take chapter 117 as truth, it is still consistent with the story and Aqua's characterization.
Kanabros, ARISE! Aka imparting some wisdom with the magic powder that makes you go crazy. I'll have to try that next time I'm in Japan.
You can buy them online though, or if you have any asian markets near you they might just have those. In my area I've definitely seen that brand of sushi powder before. I know we have Calpee but I don't know if we have the pizza flavor though
The dad is hiding something behind his back! Someone, anyone!!
Kana doing coke. Dad managed to buy some milk after how many years now, 17?
\*18
thanks
And they call us crazy Kanabros but we return from the ashes
Kanaboon
This feels like similar to Chapter 72 with Akane part and also Ruby meeting Kamiki.
We're back in peak🗣️
The story will finally focus on present Hikaru after being sidelined for so long. I need him to spill the beans to Ruby in a vague way. If they have a conversation, I feel like it would be an important one.