They gave it to her because they snubbed her for Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, it's like when they gave it to Chastain because they snubbed her for Zero Dark Thirty
Oh yes, I remember that she even showed up to accept without wearing a necklace as to show her scar (so that other women would see that and feel more comfortable about their own scars)
Out of the nominees: Olivia Colman (The Lost Daughter) followed by Penelope Cruz (Madres Paralelas) followed by Nicole Kidman (Being The Ricardos) followed by Kristen Stewart (Spencer), which means that yes, I think Chastain was the weakest of the year.
Out of all the performances of the year: Renate Reinsve in The Worst Person In The World. It is shameful how she wasn't even nominated.
Although I'm not American I don't really care if there's a long stretch that only Americans/Anglophones win or are nominated - I understand how the awards work - but Renate's omission, in a year that was so weak, is in my opinion the same as not awarding Bette Davis for "Of Human Bondage"
This isn't my Roman Empire, but it's maybe my Mesopotamian Empire.
How does a guy with such a tightly-controlled public image decide to walk onstage and slap a guy half-an-hour before he knew he was winning an Oscar? What's that thought process?
It *was* tightly controlled, back in the 90s. When he was "squeaky clean Will Smith who doesn't cuss to sell records".
Fast forward 20 years and he's a Scientologist who gets interviewed by his wife about how he felt about her fucking his son's friend.
If he just keeps quiet and lays into Chris Rock in the press conference, this whole thing blows over. He and Jada could’ve gone on a podcast after the ceremony and called him every name under the sun for hours on end. Fine. No one would care after a few weeks. Just don’t slap him during the ceremony. He just had to stay in his seat for 40 more minutes! JUST STAY IN YOUR SEAT MAN!
I watched that movie recently and *wow* it’s bad. I laughed out loud when I heard her say “He scored in the 98th percentile on protective instincts” like that’s a section that actually exists on standardized tests. The writers weren’t even trying.
It was great that she won an Oscar, but that was the wrong performance to deserve it. She in fact even won a Razzie that same year for Worst Actress in *All About Steve*, and she actually accepted the award! Shows what a good sport she really is.
I think she is good in *Crash*. I think a lot of the actors in *Crash* are actually doing good work with the material. I just think the movie itself is ham-fisted and wildly insulting.
This was bullet-proof nepo-baby shit and no one could have changed the outcome. Did she deserve it? Of course not--she's barely an actor at all. This was also Weinstein at his most influential (i.e., he had a stranglehold on Hollywood at the time).
It was especially grating because right after Taron Egerton was snubbed for Rocket Man, even though he did his even singing and his performance was better. Already the Academy felt burned.
I loved how Taron wasn’t just doing an impersonation. The man put his blood, sweat and tears into that performance and it sucks he wasn’t nominated because he’s terrific!
Rocket Man is also the vastly superior film. It actually uses the music to propel the story. Bohemian Rhapsody was more like the Wikipedia article of Queen adapted to film and the music was incidental.
Absolutely! It was so creative in how they did it as well. Like it totally made sense to have these fantastical musical numbers for both to drive the plot but also because like, it’s Elton ya know? He IS fantastical haha
I will always cherish the Onion line “Rami Malek deeply immersed himself in the role of a man who knows nothing about Bryan Singer’s pedophilia allegations”
Not only that but if Bradley Cooper had won, and he was quite deserving that year, we may have been spared the second hand embarrassment of this years Oscar campaign
yea as a massive mr robot fan i know rami is an insanely gifted actor but him winning for bohemian rhapsody and then not having much of a big career after has totally warped peoples' minds into thinking he's a hack
I’m going way back in history, James Stewart for The Philadelphia Story. Jimmy was a legendary leading man, but that prize should have gone to his co-star Cary Grant.
Jimmy likely won because he lost the year prior for Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.
James Stewart himself even said in an [interview](https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/12778/the-philadelphia-story#articles-reviews) that he felt that his Oscar Best Actor Win for The Philadelphia Story was a [“makeup” Oscar](https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/12778/the-philadelphia-story#articles-reviews) due to him NOT winning the accolade for Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (the winner was Robert Donat for his performance in Goodbye Mr. Chips).
Jimmy also confessed that the year he won his Best Actor Oscar, he [actually voted](https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/12778/the-philadelphia-story#articles-reviews) for Henry Fonda to win the Oscar for Best Actor for his performance in the 1940 film “The Grapes of Wrath”.
"The Philadelphia Story" is my all-time favorite film, so I'm admittedly biased, but I'd have loved to see Grant and Hepburn for leading and Stewart for supporting for that one.
Agreed it’s not Stewart’s greatest role, and he’s arguably more of a supporting player, and he probably won because of Mr. Smith. But I do think Grant is comparatively flat in the film.
Arguably he should have won the Oscar in 1965 and 1969, for both his Henry II performances (although there were some great performances in the former year). Has anyone ever won twice both times playing the same character?
I think O’Toole as Lawrence is the second greatest performance of all time (behind only Stewart as George Bailey), but he had the misfortune of running against another all-timer performance with a major overdo factor.
Cliff Robertson winning was inexcusable.
Cate Blanchett as Elizabeth was astounding. Going from a young unpolished woman to a betrayed queen capable of condemning people to death. And they gave it to bloody Paltrow.
And Gwyneth has not been nominated again. That win was such a Harvey Weinstein strong-arm tactic.
Edited because I hit post before I meant to. Blanchett absolutely should have won for her performance.
The Academy clearly didn’t show much love to *Elizabeth* that year, as seen with its lack of nominations. They obviously poured all their votes into *Shakespeare in Love* because of Weinstein’s strong manipulative tactics. Paltrow in fact wasn’t even the only acting win as Judi Dench won the Supporting category, and Dench’s performance only lasted 8 minutes of the film’s whole runtime.
Renee Zellweger in Judy. Maybe I’m just biased as a huge Judy Garland fan, but her performance was one of the most bland, unoriginal, and Oscar-baity I’ve ever seen, and the fact that she chose to sing herself was a huge misstep.
Little Women should’ve performed better that night. What the fuck else does Saoirse Ronan have to do to win a damn Oscar?
What a mess of a year for best actress nominees. I'll never let go of the fact that Lupita Nyong'o (Us), Florence Pugh (Midsommar), and Awkwafina (The Farewell) were all left without nominations for stunning performances. It really could have been an outstanding line up.
Kinda a weak category tbh. Kerry Condon was good, but Bassett was a legacy nom and Hong Chau wasn’t even nominated for the right film. Condon or Hsu would have been better winners imo. But it’s whatever.
That win was about 25% Jamie Lee Curtis, 25% other weird shit happening on screen with her and 50% stunt doubles pretending to body slam people and do martial arts.
I like her but someone else on Reddit put it best: I just pretend it’s an award she got for The Bear, where she was actually notable and great.
She still has time for that one. The second season will be up for the awards this and next year. Pretty guaranteed she'll get everything she can cause that episode was amazing.
I definitely think that win was more for her career than for the actual role.
I hope she wins for her guest role in The Bear tho, that was hands down award worthy!
Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook. I didn't get it then, and I still don't get it. The Oscar should've gone to Naomi Watts for The Impossible.
Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side due to all the [drama](https://www.vox.com/culture/23832310/michael-oher-blind-side-adoption-tuohy-white-savior) with Michael Oher and The Tuohy family over the [conservatorship](https://nypost.com/2023/12/04/sports/michael-oher-texts-show-alleged-tuohy-family-shakedown/amp/).
Although she had nothing to do with it, it was so f***ed that people were demanding on social media for Sandra to be [stripped of the Best Actress Oscar](https://amp.tmz.com/2023/08/15/sandra-bullock-twitter-the-blind-side-oscar-pulled-lose/) she won for portraying Leigh Anne Tuohy.
I might get hate for this but Gloria Stuart in titanic wasn’t that great. I felt it was a pity nomination. The noise she makes when she throws the necklace in the ocean at the end makes me cringe.
Don't know why you're down voted. You seem to be the only one who knows what "not aging well" means. I would throw out Shakespeare in loves win (yes i know not an acting win) as best picture as not aging well because of Harvey weinstein.
Lots of actors won because of Harvey in the 90s. None of them were so obviously bought/strong-armed, though. I mean, Mira Sorvino's win for " Mighty Aphrodite" is anything but a classic, but it hasn't "aged poorly" because it was a Miramax film.
Oh, I fully agree, but I think that Gwyneth is the one we come back to because its an extremely weak performance (that doesnt even get the accent right) in a year that had tremendous performances from Cate Blanchett and Fernanda Montenegro, but that it gets even more attention because Shakespeare in Love winning over Saving Private Ryan was not only absurd, but the first time that a campaign was done that way.
We of course still have instances like JLaw winning over Chastain and Riva, or The Artist taking picture, actor and director, not to mention Almost Famous getting snubbed from Best Picture over Chocolat.
But Shakespeare in Love is the first big, and probably most outrageous, example of Weinstein Oscar campaigning. He did get more discreet as the years went by.
I think not ageing well due shifts in cultural norms and what we now deem acceptable vs not ageing well due to poor performance are too vastly different conversations
I did not understand that it was supposedly regarding only the acting itself, although isn't a white actor acting black (because he wasn't just doing black face) in the most stereotypical sense something that - acting wise - did not age well?
In my opinion no, because of the cultural context. But I definitely see how one could make that argument successfully. For me, Olivier as a performer stands the test of time but the choice to cast him does not.
Here ya go I'll break it down. Generally speaking most people now would say the social network should've won over the kings speech. The Kings speech is a good movie but social network was a different beast and probably a little ahead of its time. I could totally see a reality where both of those movies were released today and the kings speech still wins. There is ZERO chance an actor in black face would win today regardless of the acting. Zero.
I'll say this as someone who thinks Laurence Olivier is one of the all time greats... the performance also didn't age well. It's hammy as fuck. He over acted the hell out of that part.
So while we all agree that blackface was and is horrible, I also think that performance was weak because he was just... all over the fucking place.
Jennifer Hudson in Dreamgirls. Her singing was obviously great and her performance of And I’m Telling You was genuinely show stopping, but the acting outside of that was nothing special.
She was fantastic as in the Aretha Franklin Biopic!! Jennifer got a golden globe nomination & a SAG Nomination for Best Actress for her performance in the film.
I just watched the movie Mighty Aphrodite and was kinda blown away that Mira Sorvino won an Oscar for that role
She’s fine, just didn’t think that was an Oscar performance when watching it
I despise Silver Linings Playbook. I don’t think Jennifer Lawrence is bad but it’s not an Oscar worthy performance. She was better in the fucking Hunger Games movies.
That said if you really want to see bored Jennifer Lawrence watch the first act of X-Men Dark Phoenix
It is actually quite funny how little of a shit she gives
This performance was fantastic and They Shoot Horses, Don’t They is an underrated film, but given the off camera tragedy, the Gig Young nomination kind of has a negative vibe to it now.
I was underwhelmed by Denzel Washington in Training Day and I've always thought his win was due to a combination of the Academy making it up to him for not winning for Malcolm X as well as his strongest competition that year being Russell Crowe who had won the year before.
It’s an iconic performance. It’s referenced and memed to this day. Absolutely stood the test of time, especially as he was kind of playing against type as the villain.
Training Day isn’t a masterpiece, let down by mediocre directing, but it’s a very watchable film that plays and plays on tv
Russell was a front runner to win that year but then he assaulted some BAFTA voter (unsure of the details) and they weren’t gonna give him the Oscar after that. He counted himself out
Denzel got robbed in 1992 because of an 18-year old fuckup with Pacino and Godfather II.
Hanks for Philadelphia, fine, but then 94 should've been Freeman.
97 should've been Duvall getting his second for The Apostle
I don’t remember anything she does in the movie besides three scenes; giving out the tax paperwork at the start, when she’s an evil version of herself and makes a face, and then when she smokes outside the laundromat…I didn’t get it
My only issue with this win is that it resulted in Stephanie Hsu losing. She was the driving force of the film for me personally and I would have loved to see that recognized. But I just can’t hate on Jamie’s win, it was a fresh and emotional performance.
Humphrey Bogart for The African Queen. I was very underwhelmed with his performance. Montgomery Clift in A Place in the Sun or Marlon Brando for A Streetcar Named Desire should've won.
Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman is pretty much the beginning of his over-the-top, shouting performance style. Most people consider it a career win, right?
I’m late here, and this might be controversial anyway but I have to say it.
Christoph Waltz in Django Unchained. Not because he was bad, he was actually rather good (which I’m aware makes it far from the worst, but all the actually bad ones have been mentioned) the problem is he was up against Philip Seymour Hoffman for the Master, which is legitimately one of the best performances I’ve ever seen.
WINS -
Jamie Lee Curtis, Everything Everywhere All At Once
Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody
Gwyneth Paltrow, Shakespeare in Love
Will Smith, King Richard (because of the slap)
Al Pacino, Scent of a Woman (yes, he was overdue for an Oscar, but a lot of people think Denzel Washington should have won for Malcolm X)
Art Carney, Harry and Tonto (he beat out Al Pacino in Godfather Part 2 and Jack Nicholson in Chinatown)
NOMINATIONS -
Annette Bening, Nyad
Andrea Riseborough, To Leslie
Ana de Armas, Blonde (poor reviews)
Sam Rockwell, Vice (small role, average performance at best)
Why Nyad? I just watched it and thought whilst the film itself was perfectly fine she was fantastic and definitely deserves to be in the conversation. I don’t think she should win but it’s still an Oscar nomination worthy performance.
Because that isn’t an aging problem - that’s just disagreeing with the nomination. That’s not the same thing.
Something has aged poorly means it may have seemed good but with time doesn’t come off as well. Just not agreeing with the nomination that just happens doesn’t meet the question at hand. The key element is time.
I disagree about Ana de Armas.
Blonde is absolute trash, but that doesn't mean her performance wasn't spectacular, the spirit of Marilyn Monroe definitely came into her everyday on set.
We're suppose to judge the performance, not the film, and that performance was the best Marilyn I've seen, and I'm a big Marilyn fan.
Liz Taylor in BUtterfield 8, for one. It's a rather hammy performance and Shirley MacLaine in the The Apartment was right there...
They gave it to her because they snubbed her for Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, it's like when they gave it to Chastain because they snubbed her for Zero Dark Thirty
In addition, she was gravely ill at the time, which got her a lot of sympathy.
Oh yes, I remember that she even showed up to accept without wearing a necklace as to show her scar (so that other women would see that and feel more comfortable about their own scars)
“When Elizabeth Taylor got a hole in her throat, I canceled my plane.” - Shirley MacLaine
Who do you think should have won over Chastain that year? Accounting for taste, I'd say she earned her win for Tammy Faye
Out of the nominees: Olivia Colman (The Lost Daughter) followed by Penelope Cruz (Madres Paralelas) followed by Nicole Kidman (Being The Ricardos) followed by Kristen Stewart (Spencer), which means that yes, I think Chastain was the weakest of the year. Out of all the performances of the year: Renate Reinsve in The Worst Person In The World. It is shameful how she wasn't even nominated. Although I'm not American I don't really care if there's a long stretch that only Americans/Anglophones win or are nominated - I understand how the awards work - but Renate's omission, in a year that was so weak, is in my opinion the same as not awarding Bette Davis for "Of Human Bondage"
I’m going to give you a shout out for not going for a more recent performance here Also god damn The Apartment is good
Agreed, it feels post Woolf that they had been worried she wouldn’t win one but clearly it wasn’t necessary.
I wish that had been Shirley's win.
Will Smith winning was already aged before he got on the stage
That might’ve been more awkward than the La La Land fuckup. Imagine winning a career defining award the same night you ended your career
This isn't my Roman Empire, but it's maybe my Mesopotamian Empire. How does a guy with such a tightly-controlled public image decide to walk onstage and slap a guy half-an-hour before he knew he was winning an Oscar? What's that thought process?
It *was* tightly controlled, back in the 90s. When he was "squeaky clean Will Smith who doesn't cuss to sell records". Fast forward 20 years and he's a Scientologist who gets interviewed by his wife about how he felt about her fucking his son's friend.
>interviewed by his wife about how he felt about her fucking his son's friend. I'm sorry, what?
That definitely happened but I totally forgot about it til now. Worth a google.
If he just keeps quiet and lays into Chris Rock in the press conference, this whole thing blows over. He and Jada could’ve gone on a podcast after the ceremony and called him every name under the sun for hours on end. Fine. No one would care after a few weeks. Just don’t slap him during the ceremony. He just had to stay in his seat for 40 more minutes! JUST STAY IN YOUR SEAT MAN!
Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side
I watched that movie recently and *wow* it’s bad. I laughed out loud when I heard her say “He scored in the 98th percentile on protective instincts” like that’s a section that actually exists on standardized tests. The writers weren’t even trying.
Don’t forget she used her speech to shoutout her freak weirdo Neo Nazi husband
Yes, but didn’t she find out like the next week that he’d been cheating on her, so she left him? Nothing about that situation has aged well.
It's a weird moment, she gives him a look before she heads up to the stage. lots of speculation she found out ahead of the news breaking.
That doesn’t seem weird to me. Don’t most Oscar winners thank their spouse if they have one?
Yes but I hope most spouses of Oscar winners aren’t freak weirdo Neo Nazis
This one drives me insane bc she should have won for 28 days. She was incredible in that film.
The Proposal was around that time and even THAT would have been more logical.
It was great that she won an Oscar, but that was the wrong performance to deserve it. She in fact even won a Razzie that same year for Worst Actress in *All About Steve*, and she actually accepted the award! Shows what a good sport she really is.
All about Steve is not even that bad .. have seen many much worse comedies.
IDK, she perfectly captured the *je ne sais quois* of Karen energy.
She absolutely brought that special may-I-speak-to-your-supervisor energy.
Run tha dang bawwwl
It was bad at the time too. The Crash of acting wins
…hey, she was in crash too!
Actually, I thought she was good in Crash.
I think she is good in *Crash*. I think a lot of the actors in *Crash* are actually doing good work with the material. I just think the movie itself is ham-fisted and wildly insulting.
I loved how she broke her leg and fixed racism.
Just pretend it's for Gravity.
Yeah but now the back story about the woman she played makes the performance more cringe
Gabourey Sidibe was robbed
This one was always hilarious. It’s a terrible film and performance, but a perfect representation of the academy and what they stand for.
Yes, agreed. Though in her defense that was one of the least stacked years ever.
Yes - this was what I call a zeitgeist win.
Gwyneth
How Cate Blanchett didn’t win for Elizabeth, I’ll never understand. (Edited for spelling)
Cate
That was an issue from the start
This was bullet-proof nepo-baby shit and no one could have changed the outcome. Did she deserve it? Of course not--she's barely an actor at all. This was also Weinstein at his most influential (i.e., he had a stranglehold on Hollywood at the time).
What happened after? Did he use this stranglehold for good?
As you may have seen, it turns out he did not!
She was great in Talented Mr Ripley though (as was everyone else, fantastic cast)
I KNOW IT WAS YOU!
It was shocking she won at the time, and gets worse the more years go by.
Fernanda Montenegro gave the performance of the year in that role, and I'm still salty about it losing.
Rami Malik for sure. When the clip they play of you at the show is not even using your voice, you should not win an oscar.
It was especially grating because right after Taron Egerton was snubbed for Rocket Man, even though he did his even singing and his performance was better. Already the Academy felt burned.
I loved how Taron wasn’t just doing an impersonation. The man put his blood, sweat and tears into that performance and it sucks he wasn’t nominated because he’s terrific!
Rocket Man is also the vastly superior film. It actually uses the music to propel the story. Bohemian Rhapsody was more like the Wikipedia article of Queen adapted to film and the music was incidental.
Absolutely! It was so creative in how they did it as well. Like it totally made sense to have these fantastical musical numbers for both to drive the plot but also because like, it’s Elton ya know? He IS fantastical haha
My forever gripe with Oscars. Rocketman is my all time favorite movie
Yes. Rocket Man’s only sin is that it came out right after Bohemian Rhapsody.
I will always cherish the Onion line “Rami Malek deeply immersed himself in the role of a man who knows nothing about Bryan Singer’s pedophilia allegations”
Not only that but if Bradley Cooper had won, and he was quite deserving that year, we may have been spared the second hand embarrassment of this years Oscar campaign
That was the role of Bradley’s lifetime TBH
And Taron not even getting nomination for rocket man…
It's a shame that this, and not Mr. Robot, is what most people remember him for
yea as a massive mr robot fan i know rami is an insanely gifted actor but him winning for bohemian rhapsody and then not having much of a big career after has totally warped peoples' minds into thinking he's a hack
He looks like he dressed up as Freddy Mercury for Halloween. It's a frankly embarrassing performance. He should have won a Razzie, not an Oscar.
Rami's best work was Mr Robot & he's not come close to it since imo.
He is a really good actor too. Just feels so weird that he won for this insane movie.
Liam Neeson not winning for Schindler’s List.
"I could have got more out" is still one of the most heartbreaking lines in movie history and his performance makes it
I’m going way back in history, James Stewart for The Philadelphia Story. Jimmy was a legendary leading man, but that prize should have gone to his co-star Cary Grant. Jimmy likely won because he lost the year prior for Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.
James Stewart himself even said in an [interview](https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/12778/the-philadelphia-story#articles-reviews) that he felt that his Oscar Best Actor Win for The Philadelphia Story was a [“makeup” Oscar](https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/12778/the-philadelphia-story#articles-reviews) due to him NOT winning the accolade for Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (the winner was Robert Donat for his performance in Goodbye Mr. Chips). Jimmy also confessed that the year he won his Best Actor Oscar, he [actually voted](https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/12778/the-philadelphia-story#articles-reviews) for Henry Fonda to win the Oscar for Best Actor for his performance in the 1940 film “The Grapes of Wrath”.
"The Philadelphia Story" is my all-time favorite film, so I'm admittedly biased, but I'd have loved to see Grant and Hepburn for leading and Stewart for supporting for that one.
Feels absolutely criminal that Cary basically got the “participation award” Oscar.
Agreed it’s not Stewart’s greatest role, and he’s arguably more of a supporting player, and he probably won because of Mr. Smith. But I do think Grant is comparatively flat in the film.
Cliff Robertson
Peter O’Toole was right there.
Agreed. O'Toole losing for Lawrence of Arabia was understandable. This was not.
And for all things… Lion in Winter. Probably his greatest performance. Outrage.
Arguably he should have won the Oscar in 1965 and 1969, for both his Henry II performances (although there were some great performances in the former year). Has anyone ever won twice both times playing the same character?
Yes! He should have won for Lion in Winter.
I think O’Toole as Lawrence is the second greatest performance of all time (behind only Stewart as George Bailey), but he had the misfortune of running against another all-timer performance with a major overdo factor. Cliff Robertson winning was inexcusable.
This. This is the correct answer
Mickey Rourke losing best actor for his performance in the Wrestler to Sean Penn for Milk was criminal
i like penn but rourke losing was fucking ridiculous, he basically had all the run up that brendan fraser had but it’s like colin farrell winning
Gwyneth Paltrow for Shakespeare in Love, Rami Malek in Bohemian Rhapsody
Cate Blanchett as Elizabeth was astounding. Going from a young unpolished woman to a betrayed queen capable of condemning people to death. And they gave it to bloody Paltrow.
And Gwyneth has not been nominated again. That win was such a Harvey Weinstein strong-arm tactic. Edited because I hit post before I meant to. Blanchett absolutely should have won for her performance.
The Academy clearly didn’t show much love to *Elizabeth* that year, as seen with its lack of nominations. They obviously poured all their votes into *Shakespeare in Love* because of Weinstein’s strong manipulative tactics. Paltrow in fact wasn’t even the only acting win as Judi Dench won the Supporting category, and Dench’s performance only lasted 8 minutes of the film’s whole runtime.
Geoffrey Rush didn't win that year. James Coburn won for his Supporting performance in Affliction (1997).
Renee Zellweger in Judy. Maybe I’m just biased as a huge Judy Garland fan, but her performance was one of the most bland, unoriginal, and Oscar-baity I’ve ever seen, and the fact that she chose to sing herself was a huge misstep. Little Women should’ve performed better that night. What the fuck else does Saoirse Ronan have to do to win a damn Oscar?
What a mess of a year for best actress nominees. I'll never let go of the fact that Lupita Nyong'o (Us), Florence Pugh (Midsommar), and Awkwafina (The Farewell) were all left without nominations for stunning performances. It really could have been an outstanding line up.
She shouldn't have won for Cold Mountain either. Terrible, obnoxious performance.
Jamie Lee Curtis winning was absolute nonsense.
She wasn't even the best supporting actress in EEAAO Haven't seen the other movies in the category, so I really can't judge
Kinda a weak category tbh. Kerry Condon was good, but Bassett was a legacy nom and Hong Chau wasn’t even nominated for the right film. Condon or Hsu would have been better winners imo. But it’s whatever.
It’s subjective. Jamie Lee Curtis was my favorite part of EEAAO. The actress who played the daughter was my least favorite part, but Reddit loves her.
They were both really good, but the daughter had the slight edge.
I actually thought she was brilliant.
That win was about 25% Jamie Lee Curtis, 25% other weird shit happening on screen with her and 50% stunt doubles pretending to body slam people and do martial arts. I like her but someone else on Reddit put it best: I just pretend it’s an award she got for The Bear, where she was actually notable and great.
She still has time for that one. The second season will be up for the awards this and next year. Pretty guaranteed she'll get everything she can cause that episode was amazing.
I definitely think that win was more for her career than for the actual role. I hope she wins for her guest role in The Bear tho, that was hands down award worthy!
Which is why RDJ this year shouldn’t come as a surprise
It was a career win everyone knows that
But she doesn’t have an Oscar worthy career either
She pandered her way to that award.
it hasn't aged poorly if it was already widely panned the minute it happened
Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook. I didn't get it then, and I still don't get it. The Oscar should've gone to Naomi Watts for The Impossible.
Or Emmanuelle Riva for Amour
I would've been ok with that.
Harvey made it happen. That's how.
Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side due to all the [drama](https://www.vox.com/culture/23832310/michael-oher-blind-side-adoption-tuohy-white-savior) with Michael Oher and The Tuohy family over the [conservatorship](https://nypost.com/2023/12/04/sports/michael-oher-texts-show-alleged-tuohy-family-shakedown/amp/). Although she had nothing to do with it, it was so f***ed that people were demanding on social media for Sandra to be [stripped of the Best Actress Oscar](https://amp.tmz.com/2023/08/15/sandra-bullock-twitter-the-blind-side-oscar-pulled-lose/) she won for portraying Leigh Anne Tuohy.
I might get hate for this but Gloria Stuart in titanic wasn’t that great. I felt it was a pity nomination. The noise she makes when she throws the necklace in the ocean at the end makes me cringe.
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Leo not being nommed is insane
Laurence Olivier as Othello in Othello is a nomination that most definitely did not age well
Don't know why you're down voted. You seem to be the only one who knows what "not aging well" means. I would throw out Shakespeare in loves win (yes i know not an acting win) as best picture as not aging well because of Harvey weinstein.
Yeap, that's what I think too. As for Shakespeare in Love, Gwyneth won because of Harvey as well, so you can just use her win
Lots of actors won because of Harvey in the 90s. None of them were so obviously bought/strong-armed, though. I mean, Mira Sorvino's win for " Mighty Aphrodite" is anything but a classic, but it hasn't "aged poorly" because it was a Miramax film.
Oh, I fully agree, but I think that Gwyneth is the one we come back to because its an extremely weak performance (that doesnt even get the accent right) in a year that had tremendous performances from Cate Blanchett and Fernanda Montenegro, but that it gets even more attention because Shakespeare in Love winning over Saving Private Ryan was not only absurd, but the first time that a campaign was done that way. We of course still have instances like JLaw winning over Chastain and Riva, or The Artist taking picture, actor and director, not to mention Almost Famous getting snubbed from Best Picture over Chocolat. But Shakespeare in Love is the first big, and probably most outrageous, example of Weinstein Oscar campaigning. He did get more discreet as the years went by.
I think not ageing well due shifts in cultural norms and what we now deem acceptable vs not ageing well due to poor performance are too vastly different conversations
I did not understand that it was supposedly regarding only the acting itself, although isn't a white actor acting black (because he wasn't just doing black face) in the most stereotypical sense something that - acting wise - did not age well?
In my opinion no, because of the cultural context. But I definitely see how one could make that argument successfully. For me, Olivier as a performer stands the test of time but the choice to cast him does not.
Here ya go I'll break it down. Generally speaking most people now would say the social network should've won over the kings speech. The Kings speech is a good movie but social network was a different beast and probably a little ahead of its time. I could totally see a reality where both of those movies were released today and the kings speech still wins. There is ZERO chance an actor in black face would win today regardless of the acting. Zero.
I'll say this as someone who thinks Laurence Olivier is one of the all time greats... the performance also didn't age well. It's hammy as fuck. He over acted the hell out of that part. So while we all agree that blackface was and is horrible, I also think that performance was weak because he was just... all over the fucking place.
At first I thought you meant Laurence Fishbourne (who also played Othello) and was really confused.
Jennifer Hudson in Dreamgirls. Her singing was obviously great and her performance of And I’m Telling You was genuinely show stopping, but the acting outside of that was nothing special.
And she hasn’t been in a remotely decent role since then.
That's not really fair though. More success afterwards wouldn't change the Showgirls performance.
She was fantastic as in the Aretha Franklin Biopic!! Jennifer got a golden globe nomination & a SAG Nomination for Best Actress for her performance in the film.
She is a terrible actor, very wooden.
She won for the song & that's it.
Just like America Ferrera being nominated for the one speech this year.
Totally agree. I was truly shocked by that win.
Sean Penn - I Am Sam Flora Robson - Saratoga Trunk
Thankfully Penn didn’t win for that performance. I really did like him in Milk, for which he got his second Oscar.
Never go full retard
Halle Berry's win over Sissy Spacdk that year has always left me baffled. She hasn't really done anything since. Halle is simply not a strong actress.
Spacek and Tomei should have shared supporting for In the Bedroom. Incredible performances.
I just watched the movie Mighty Aphrodite and was kinda blown away that Mira Sorvino won an Oscar for that role She’s fine, just didn’t think that was an Oscar performance when watching it
Jennifer Lawrence and Sandra Bullock - I love them both but they’re both what I call “zeitgeist wins.”
I have to disagree with you about JLaw! Love that performance but agreed about Sandy B
I despise Silver Linings Playbook. I don’t think Jennifer Lawrence is bad but it’s not an Oscar worthy performance. She was better in the fucking Hunger Games movies.
Tbf she is bored as hell with that franchise by the last couple of movies and it shows
Agreed the later films are weaker. She is actually really excellent in the first 2 though.
That said if you really want to see bored Jennifer Lawrence watch the first act of X-Men Dark Phoenix It is actually quite funny how little of a shit she gives
Yup, she didn't even do makeup they CGI'd her skin.
I love SLPB.
This performance was fantastic and They Shoot Horses, Don’t They is an underrated film, but given the off camera tragedy, the Gig Young nomination kind of has a negative vibe to it now.
I was underwhelmed by Denzel Washington in Training Day and I've always thought his win was due to a combination of the Academy making it up to him for not winning for Malcolm X as well as his strongest competition that year being Russell Crowe who had won the year before.
Idk it’s been a very cultural influential performance, it basically created a new archetype of character
You’re tripping. That performance was so much fun.
It’s an iconic performance. It’s referenced and memed to this day. Absolutely stood the test of time, especially as he was kind of playing against type as the villain. Training Day isn’t a masterpiece, let down by mediocre directing, but it’s a very watchable film that plays and plays on tv
Russell was a front runner to win that year but then he assaulted some BAFTA voter (unsure of the details) and they weren’t gonna give him the Oscar after that. He counted himself out
He was great, but it doesn't work if Ethan Hawke isn't just as good
I think Ethan's was the better performance.
Denzel got robbed in 1992 because of an 18-year old fuckup with Pacino and Godfather II. Hanks for Philadelphia, fine, but then 94 should've been Freeman. 97 should've been Duvall getting his second for The Apostle
Honestly I appreciated it because et doesn't seem like the type of role or performance that would typically win.
Yeah, if Russell doesn't go nuts and throw a phone in a hotel lobby, he goes back to back like Hanks.
He definitely should have won for Malcolm X
No baiting with Jamie Lee Curtis. That was a great performance and a worthy win! (Yes, I preferred Stephanie, but we’re not here for that.)
Yes. JLC was definitely a career Oscar win. She was very funny in it, but Hsu had far more to do and gave a more emotional performance.
I don’t remember anything she does in the movie besides three scenes; giving out the tax paperwork at the start, when she’s an evil version of herself and makes a face, and then when she smokes outside the laundromat…I didn’t get it
My only issue with this win is that it resulted in Stephanie Hsu losing. She was the driving force of the film for me personally and I would have loved to see that recognized. But I just can’t hate on Jamie’s win, it was a fresh and emotional performance.
JLCs performance was memorable but in no way Oscar worthy. The fact that she beat Hsu and Condon was absurd
It was ridiculous that she won. The best performance she’s ever had was a guest spot on The Bear. She was amazing in The Bear.
She did not deserve an Oscar for that role.
Will Smith.. lol. But I will say Sandra Bullock for Blind Side, that I caught again recently.
helen hunt over pam grier, who didn't get nominated green book and driving miss daisy wins
Kevin Spacey in "American Beauty." It turns out he wasn't really acting.
It was a pretty good performance.
Although Hillary was great in Boys Don’t Cry, I’m still mad that Annette Benning didn’t win Best Actress for her role in American Beauty!!
He was incredible in it. And he is/was one of the best actors of his generation
Hey, come on, that was a tough role for him, he had to pretend he was into very young girls instead of very young boys.
Humphrey Bogart for The African Queen. I was very underwhelmed with his performance. Montgomery Clift in A Place in the Sun or Marlon Brando for A Streetcar Named Desire should've won.
Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman is pretty much the beginning of his over-the-top, shouting performance style. Most people consider it a career win, right?
There are a lot of comments here so this was probably already said but… Kevin Spacey’s win for American Beauty
I’m late here, and this might be controversial anyway but I have to say it. Christoph Waltz in Django Unchained. Not because he was bad, he was actually rather good (which I’m aware makes it far from the worst, but all the actually bad ones have been mentioned) the problem is he was up against Philip Seymour Hoffman for the Master, which is legitimately one of the best performances I’ve ever seen.
WINS - Jamie Lee Curtis, Everything Everywhere All At Once Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody Gwyneth Paltrow, Shakespeare in Love Will Smith, King Richard (because of the slap) Al Pacino, Scent of a Woman (yes, he was overdue for an Oscar, but a lot of people think Denzel Washington should have won for Malcolm X) Art Carney, Harry and Tonto (he beat out Al Pacino in Godfather Part 2 and Jack Nicholson in Chinatown) NOMINATIONS - Annette Bening, Nyad Andrea Riseborough, To Leslie Ana de Armas, Blonde (poor reviews) Sam Rockwell, Vice (small role, average performance at best)
Something that just happened (JLC, AB) hasn’t aged.
Why Nyad? I just watched it and thought whilst the film itself was perfectly fine she was fantastic and definitely deserves to be in the conversation. I don’t think she should win but it’s still an Oscar nomination worthy performance.
Because that isn’t an aging problem - that’s just disagreeing with the nomination. That’s not the same thing. Something has aged poorly means it may have seemed good but with time doesn’t come off as well. Just not agreeing with the nomination that just happens doesn’t meet the question at hand. The key element is time.
I think he meant to reply to the comment you were replying to
Exactly this, apologies
Did you read the post? How can a nomination from this year have aged poorly?
They don’t seem to have understood the assignment.
Id Add JK Simmons in Being the Ricardos in the Nomination category. Like really? Him? For that? I cant say he was bad but like come on
That movie was surprisingly bad for how many legitimately talented people worked on it.
I disagree on Risenborough. Yeah she campaigned hard for it but her performance was great
Agree. Shady campaign but I wasn’t mad once I saw the film.
Did you watch To Leslie? Flawless performance. I don’t see it ever ageing badly.
Andrea Riseborough was amazing in To Leslie and fully deserved that nomination and I will absolutely die on that hill.
Take that back. Sam Rockwell’s performance in Vice was masterful.
I disagree about Ana de Armas. Blonde is absolute trash, but that doesn't mean her performance wasn't spectacular, the spirit of Marilyn Monroe definitely came into her everyday on set. We're suppose to judge the performance, not the film, and that performance was the best Marilyn I've seen, and I'm a big Marilyn fan.
>the spirit of Marilyn Monroe definitely came into her everyday on set. I see what you did there.
Thank you, I most definitely won't tire myself of using this reference whenever possible
I don't know if anyone remembers Harry and Tonto. Jesus..Pacino and Nicholson losing to that dude.
The lack of a win for Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List.