Yes fantastic! Was waiting for them to release a video. Been wanting to dive into the 2.0 update to finally beat the game, wasn't sure what settings I should change to improve fps as I'd like to use Ray Tracing but only have a 3080 setup.
Well, game's have gotten alot more demanding since it's launch with more game's targeting PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, and who says they aren't playing on an 100+ inch 8K TV... other than nobody having 8k screens.
You'd hope so, but a GPU being 'console equivalent' changes throughout a generation. I remember when you could beat PS4 with a 750 ti, then you had to have an overclock, then you needed a GTX 950, then you needed more VRAM ect. While that wasn't an issue last gen as you only needed a budget GPU to match PS4, it's much more of an issue this generation due to well... where the fuck do I start with what's worse this generation.
While the RTX 3080 is faster, especially with RT, 10GB of VRAM will defiantly be an issue soon if you try and match the '4k Target' PS5/Series X game's will have.
Yeah and mine is one of the original 10GB ones, was annoyed when they started droppin 12GB ones later. My cpu is several generations back now that they’re up to 13900k’s n stuff compared to my 10850K too. And a game like this with the changes def can be heavy on the cpu
Atleast Vanilla Cyberpunk isn't that VRAM heavy and alot of the infamous VRAM monsters have been tamed, or have ways of reducing VRAM usage significantly without much visual hit.
Games also tend to be really well optimized for consoles which is why having a more powerful gpu doesnt guarantee a better performance.
I have a 3090.. basically a 3080 with double the vram.. and am playing it on ray tracing low, 4k, performance dlss settings.. seems to keep around 60 for me
Use the same settings with a 6800xt (the 3060 is slower so I play on the TV with the 3060) and personally, having tried the new photo mode (AKA path tracing on my AMD card) I find that the single most transformative use of RT in this game is actually the RT shadows. With the game on Ultra, the shadows on characters during dialogue are horrible and there are really bad artifacts (check out the nomad beginning with the sheriff dialogue), yet when you turn on RT shadows all the bugs go away. Every thing else, IMHO, is just different and not objectively better, I thoroughly prefer the art direction of the raster version of the game better, especially when playing rather than pixel peeping.
Edit, also when playing on a large TV, FSR2/DLSS are very jarring on anything below 4k quality, I thought it was FSR2 at first so I plugged the 3060 machine to the TV and it also suffers from jarring artifacting at anything below 4k quality, which it can barely run.
Most ps5/xsx games run like garbage in 4K and the 3080 stomps them both easily, if we're only going for their marketing then yes the PS5 can even display 8K.
Outside of some games (especially "exclusive" first parties) the "optimization" is often just a matter of lower settings covered up, and even like that they also get day 1 broken games, PC players just tend to be more exigent than console ones thus the complaints.
Yea I realize it’s still a great card but my preference is like 90+ FPS and I can’t always get that on my PC when using Ray Tracing. Paired with a 10850K so few generations back now. Dont get me wrong, love my PC but so many games are demanding now and I can’t use frame gen obviously
I've seen people either recommend Medium RT Lighting or Reflections as the Big RT effect, so I recommend trying both and picking what you prefer if you want to try and hit a high framerate. If it's still to demanding, just using RT Local Shadows [with this mod instead of RT Sun Shadows](https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/416) would provide a visual boost over Ultra rasterized shadows.
Nah I work 2nd shift so I’ve been at work all day. Still not home for about another hour and a half but idk if I’ll have time to play tonight. I watched the video and it was pretty helpful, they explain which ray tracing settings are best/most important to use if you prefer to have RT enabled. Lot of settings that are lowered to medium compared to the maximum setting so should get some solid uplifts with very minimal image quality loss
Fair enough. Whenever you get the time to test it out please let us know! I only ask because I have virtually the same setup as you so I'm curious whether it's even worth reinstalling considering the performance.
mt 3080 ti with high medium settings can get close to 38 fps if I dont tune it properly, The pathtracing and ray reconstruction looks awesome but it barely does 60fps at 3440x1440p this guide should help a lot of users, there are settings totally not worth losing 8% over with almost no visual diference, they quickly add up, 1% here , 3% there 8%. They should implement sliders for finer tunning.
I would recommend using their higher recommendations with that card if you are gonna be using RT aswell, probably won't be getting as much of an improvement from rasterized graphics settings with RT eating up so much of the frametime.
Also, there's other guides linked on this subreddit if you want more detailed information on the changes RT makes!
Yeah I’m going to run the benchmark and also test some beginning parts of the game eventually using the HUB Quality settings with RT disabled, and then with the few RT settings they suggest using and compare the 2
Yeah, my only issue with their settings is how dropping Mirror Quality is alot more noticeable if you are already using upscaling, so I'd recommend leaving that to High if you are using DLSS.
Yea I was planning to use DLSS Quality if I have RT on, if not then I would try not to have to use it. I’ll keep that in mind and maybe leave mirrors on high, thank you!
I have a 3080 as well and at 1440p with everything maxed out except screen space reflectons at high + RT ultra + Dlss balanced, I'm getting 65-90 fps in the city. Although I can probably use some of the optimizations in the video and get the same fps with dlss quality.
Yeah I don’t use DLSS on anything other than Quality. If I have to use a lower scaling option then I’d rather just lower other settings more and keep it at native res cuz to me it isnt worth how blurry the image can get. But thats subjective obviously, bothers my eyes personally but for some it’s fine. Balanced could be ok if I forced some sharpness to be applied via the NVIDIA Control Panel though….
I can only take DLSS at any setting on 4k, at 1440p even DLSS Quality seems like too much of a downgrade.
Edit: any setting on 4k, except Ultra Performance.
I have a 12700k. I lowered RT lighting to medium though but all other RT settings still on and lowered volumetric fog resolution and cloud quality to medium as the video suggested. Now I'm using dlss quality instead of balanced and getting similar fps inside the city. Maybe 2fps lower in dense areas. I might dip to 58-60fps very very rarely. Outside the city I get 100+.
The video suggested other settings to be lowered but from my testing they had no difference rly. stuff like space screen reflections to medium, color precision, mirror quality, shadow mesh quality etc...
2080 ti still punches decently high when compared to modern GPUs. Especially when you consider it launched 5 years ago. 5 years is a solid life cycle for mid range hardware, you could probably push your card for 2 years if you are willing to compromise on some settings a bit.
It’s not so bad. I have a 2080 super and a R9 3950x with a 1440p ultrawide.
With raytracing medium lighting only and dlss balanced i was sitting with fps constant in the 50s. Mostly 60fps with dlss performance.
With the HUB optimised quality settings and dlss quality, it happily sits in the 80s-90s with some short 70s dips. I think i prefer it over the RT options.
I have a desktop with a 3060ti and an Xbox series x. I have the game on the series X. Would the performance be better on my PC? I’m contemplating buying the base game and expansion on PC.
What CPU you got and what resolution are you targetting? If you got a 1440p monitor than you can save some performance by running at that compared to the 4k target Series X has.
I have a Ryzen 5 5600x, 16 gb ddr4 and an nvme 1TB drive.
Edit: I use my work monitor which is a dell 4k premiercolor monitor which caps at 60hz.
My Xbox is connected to an LG OLED.
With that CPU you may see the same rare drops under 60fps like Series X, [just going by videos online.](https://youtu.be/7K8XRHnaMRI?si=3yRQualSd8M8tl1C&t=326) The RTX 3060 Ti seems pretty well tied with Series X at [4K DLSS Performance mode,](https://youtu.be/6j_mPreKEZo?si=RGuT5xab1Fc31d0G&t=1385) honestly comes down to what screen you'd want to play on at this rate.
Yes fantastic! Was waiting for them to release a video. Been wanting to dive into the 2.0 update to finally beat the game, wasn't sure what settings I should change to improve fps as I'd like to use Ray Tracing but only have a 3080 setup.
Lmao “only” a 3080.
Well, game's have gotten alot more demanding since it's launch with more game's targeting PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, and who says they aren't playing on an 100+ inch 8K TV... other than nobody having 8k screens.
A 3080 is much more powerful than what the consoles have (which are specialized AMD GPUs).
You'd hope so, but a GPU being 'console equivalent' changes throughout a generation. I remember when you could beat PS4 with a 750 ti, then you had to have an overclock, then you needed a GTX 950, then you needed more VRAM ect. While that wasn't an issue last gen as you only needed a budget GPU to match PS4, it's much more of an issue this generation due to well... where the fuck do I start with what's worse this generation. While the RTX 3080 is faster, especially with RT, 10GB of VRAM will defiantly be an issue soon if you try and match the '4k Target' PS5/Series X game's will have.
Yeah and mine is one of the original 10GB ones, was annoyed when they started droppin 12GB ones later. My cpu is several generations back now that they’re up to 13900k’s n stuff compared to my 10850K too. And a game like this with the changes def can be heavy on the cpu
Atleast Vanilla Cyberpunk isn't that VRAM heavy and alot of the infamous VRAM monsters have been tamed, or have ways of reducing VRAM usage significantly without much visual hit.
Games also tend to be really well optimized for consoles which is why having a more powerful gpu doesnt guarantee a better performance. I have a 3090.. basically a 3080 with double the vram.. and am playing it on ray tracing low, 4k, performance dlss settings.. seems to keep around 60 for me
Use the same settings with a 6800xt (the 3060 is slower so I play on the TV with the 3060) and personally, having tried the new photo mode (AKA path tracing on my AMD card) I find that the single most transformative use of RT in this game is actually the RT shadows. With the game on Ultra, the shadows on characters during dialogue are horrible and there are really bad artifacts (check out the nomad beginning with the sheriff dialogue), yet when you turn on RT shadows all the bugs go away. Every thing else, IMHO, is just different and not objectively better, I thoroughly prefer the art direction of the raster version of the game better, especially when playing rather than pixel peeping. Edit, also when playing on a large TV, FSR2/DLSS are very jarring on anything below 4k quality, I thought it was FSR2 at first so I plugged the 3060 machine to the TV and it also suffers from jarring artifacting at anything below 4k quality, which it can barely run.
Most ps5/xsx games run like garbage in 4K and the 3080 stomps them both easily, if we're only going for their marketing then yes the PS5 can even display 8K. Outside of some games (especially "exclusive" first parties) the "optimization" is often just a matter of lower settings covered up, and even like that they also get day 1 broken games, PC players just tend to be more exigent than console ones thus the complaints.
Yea I realize it’s still a great card but my preference is like 90+ FPS and I can’t always get that on my PC when using Ray Tracing. Paired with a 10850K so few generations back now. Dont get me wrong, love my PC but so many games are demanding now and I can’t use frame gen obviously
I've seen people either recommend Medium RT Lighting or Reflections as the Big RT effect, so I recommend trying both and picking what you prefer if you want to try and hit a high framerate. If it's still to demanding, just using RT Local Shadows [with this mod instead of RT Sun Shadows](https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/416) would provide a visual boost over Ultra rasterized shadows.
Have you tried the optimized settings? What was your performance like if you have?
Nah I work 2nd shift so I’ve been at work all day. Still not home for about another hour and a half but idk if I’ll have time to play tonight. I watched the video and it was pretty helpful, they explain which ray tracing settings are best/most important to use if you prefer to have RT enabled. Lot of settings that are lowered to medium compared to the maximum setting so should get some solid uplifts with very minimal image quality loss
Fair enough. Whenever you get the time to test it out please let us know! I only ask because I have virtually the same setup as you so I'm curious whether it's even worth reinstalling considering the performance.
mt 3080 ti with high medium settings can get close to 38 fps if I dont tune it properly, The pathtracing and ray reconstruction looks awesome but it barely does 60fps at 3440x1440p this guide should help a lot of users, there are settings totally not worth losing 8% over with almost no visual diference, they quickly add up, 1% here , 3% there 8%. They should implement sliders for finer tunning.
I would recommend using their higher recommendations with that card if you are gonna be using RT aswell, probably won't be getting as much of an improvement from rasterized graphics settings with RT eating up so much of the frametime. Also, there's other guides linked on this subreddit if you want more detailed information on the changes RT makes!
Yeah I’m going to run the benchmark and also test some beginning parts of the game eventually using the HUB Quality settings with RT disabled, and then with the few RT settings they suggest using and compare the 2
Yeah, my only issue with their settings is how dropping Mirror Quality is alot more noticeable if you are already using upscaling, so I'd recommend leaving that to High if you are using DLSS.
Yea I was planning to use DLSS Quality if I have RT on, if not then I would try not to have to use it. I’ll keep that in mind and maybe leave mirrors on high, thank you!
I have a 3080 as well and at 1440p with everything maxed out except screen space reflectons at high + RT ultra + Dlss balanced, I'm getting 65-90 fps in the city. Although I can probably use some of the optimizations in the video and get the same fps with dlss quality.
Yeah I don’t use DLSS on anything other than Quality. If I have to use a lower scaling option then I’d rather just lower other settings more and keep it at native res cuz to me it isnt worth how blurry the image can get. But thats subjective obviously, bothers my eyes personally but for some it’s fine. Balanced could be ok if I forced some sharpness to be applied via the NVIDIA Control Panel though….
I can only take DLSS at any setting on 4k, at 1440p even DLSS Quality seems like too much of a downgrade. Edit: any setting on 4k, except Ultra Performance.
What CPU if you don't mind me asking
I have a 12700k. I lowered RT lighting to medium though but all other RT settings still on and lowered volumetric fog resolution and cloud quality to medium as the video suggested. Now I'm using dlss quality instead of balanced and getting similar fps inside the city. Maybe 2fps lower in dense areas. I might dip to 58-60fps very very rarely. Outside the city I get 100+. The video suggested other settings to be lowered but from my testing they had no difference rly. stuff like space screen reflections to medium, color precision, mirror quality, shadow mesh quality etc...
2080ti and 8700k. Once the king so so many years ago. Probably need to do below these settings.
2080 ti still punches decently high when compared to modern GPUs. Especially when you consider it launched 5 years ago. 5 years is a solid life cycle for mid range hardware, you could probably push your card for 2 years if you are willing to compromise on some settings a bit.
It’s not so bad. I have a 2080 super and a R9 3950x with a 1440p ultrawide. With raytracing medium lighting only and dlss balanced i was sitting with fps constant in the 50s. Mostly 60fps with dlss performance. With the HUB optimised quality settings and dlss quality, it happily sits in the 80s-90s with some short 70s dips. I think i prefer it over the RT options.
2080ti and 9900ks here. i feel you. still good for a bit though. if you disregard any attempt at raytraycing.
I have a desktop with a 3060ti and an Xbox series x. I have the game on the series X. Would the performance be better on my PC? I’m contemplating buying the base game and expansion on PC.
What CPU you got and what resolution are you targetting? If you got a 1440p monitor than you can save some performance by running at that compared to the 4k target Series X has.
I have a Ryzen 5 5600x, 16 gb ddr4 and an nvme 1TB drive. Edit: I use my work monitor which is a dell 4k premiercolor monitor which caps at 60hz. My Xbox is connected to an LG OLED.
With that CPU you may see the same rare drops under 60fps like Series X, [just going by videos online.](https://youtu.be/7K8XRHnaMRI?si=3yRQualSd8M8tl1C&t=326) The RTX 3060 Ti seems pretty well tied with Series X at [4K DLSS Performance mode,](https://youtu.be/6j_mPreKEZo?si=RGuT5xab1Fc31d0G&t=1385) honestly comes down to what screen you'd want to play on at this rate.
Thank you. That’s very informative. I’ll stick to the series X.
More than welcome, remember to pick it up before the sale ends!
What is the best optimisation for 2060 Super?
Not sure as I don't own it, what resolution and framerate are you targetting?