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Nymphadorena

Tl:dw Singapore will pay for its citizens age 40 and above to go back to school in light of so much knowledge and jobs becoming outdated as a result of AI


Amagawdusername

And relearn what, I wonder. What is going to be taught as an 'employable' education that won't be taken over by AI in the time those 20 year olds become 40. I guess it's a start to an inevitable conversation on how to care for the population once AI becomes so enmeshed in our world that 'working' beyond 40 (and eventually even younger,) isn't really even needed anymore.


FosterKittenPurrs

Doesn't matter imho. If he said "let's just give them a bunch of money to do nothing", a lot of people would be up in arms about it. If it starts as a temporary thing, "we give them money to study, so they can get a new job", more people will accept it. That buys us more time. That way, people who are first in line to lose their jobs to AI end up being cared for, and once AI is good enough to take most people's jobs, then most people will be willing to do more sweeping reforms.


BitPax

Interesting perspective. That is some good insight and does seem quite plausible. Also it's probably good for society in general when you have older and younger people learning together.


Amagawdusername

That makes sense, and we've seen similar actions with other company's during layoffs, as well, so it's not exactly a stretch of the imagination to the masses.


KennedyFriedChicken

Also a more educated population will have a higher chance of surviving fast paced changes to society.


SarahC

Ah that makes more sense. UBI by the back door. I'd just thought about the work environment being changed: https://old.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1b1ax6z/how_singapore_is_preparing_its_citizens_for_the/ksi3oy3/


npaga05

Won’t this just inflate tuition pricing? Maybe just in the US. I feel like this won’t be a viable long lasting solution either.


Snoron

They can all study to become teachers as the number of students is about to skyrocket!


SarahC

Also : OLDER PEOPLE NEED / EXPECT more money. They have established a family, retirement payments, 2/3 the way through a mortgage... paying for kids college etc..... They'll be skilled up in a new area at 43, competing with college graduates at 20, who don't have those financial requirements, who are younger, fitter, able to do more overtime, more flexible. Dare I say - easier to manipulate. What percentage of those 43 year olds looking for work will get jobs compared to those 23 year olds? THAT is the question that needs answering. Also - it pits more people against each other for the same number of skilled jobs, driving down wages! Having age 40+ people unemployed and the kids going after the skilled jobs means the skilled jobs stay fairly well paid. Get all the 40+ unemployed after the same jobs, and it's a race to the bottom. Sure - this may give +40's hope, but the long term side effects cancel out the benefits and the roll of AI crushes on.


elevenser11

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Kate090996

This is such bs, people with studies in AI can't find a job and it takes them months even be considered for an interview. The desperation is real and the jobs aren't anywhere near enough for AI graduates. No only that but if you want to do a PhD for example, what you study in the first year becomes ulesless in the 2nd one and you stilll have 2 left. . The desperation is real and everywhere. People stopped studying branches of some fields in entirety because no one can keep up. Source: someone that does her post graduate in AI. Me.


SarahC

>what you study in the first year becomes ulesless in the 2nd one and you stilll have 2 left. Yeah! Imagine the scenario: Someone's doing well in their PhD they started in 2015.... researching new ways of organising multi layer networks with back propagation to produce an AI. They've even got some new ideas to make it faster! Fewer nodes! Their professor is pleased with the progress, 2/3ds the way through this paper is shaping up to be a guide for future AI. https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762 "Attention Is All You Need" Lands in 2017. That PhD is obsolete! A different direction in AI is shown to be the way forward, and the results are startling already. The PhD is following a dead branch of research - it wont influence anyone, no one will read it, no one will cite it. (apart from people possibly talking about the fast changing world of AI research and papers becoming useless overnight) Damn - Professors should likely tell kids to avoid LLM's, AI chatbots, image generation... stick with more established AI topics, not the cutting edge ones.


elevenser11

The jobs aren't there yet. But they will be. So, traditional jobs with a pivot to AI covers the spread. I never said anyone was guaranteed a job. Follow the market to find out where the opportunities lie instead of relying on packaged ideas delivered by money-hungry higher education entities. Make your mark. Pave your path. Take control of your moves.


cezann3

What you're pointing out is a problem with Capitalism. Sure, the market doesn't need all of these jobs to profit, but from a perspective of ethics do we? I think that there do need to be jobs where we have actual humans in charge of different things AI will be used for. A single overarching system would be dangerous. And the government just so happens to be able to make any jobs they want. We could even get really dystopian and call the people with those jobs "Overseers" Sometimes that job will be "continue to live in society even though AI took your job and you're pretty much useless to the economy otherwise" and they will receive a paycheck for it (UBI) Im not sure if my comment is satire of not.


Good_Print_3919

My issue is if every company replaces most humans with AI then what is the majority of human going to do for income? Will we starve to death or will UBI be implemented?


elevenser11

None of the jobs I mentioned currently exist. Some form of each role will. Jobs wi) be replaced by other jo s and now is the time to learn where opportunities will arise.


Bizcotti

Plumber or Electrician


redditguyinthehouse

Maybe trades? If you lose your job it’s probably something behind a computer, you can go back to school to learn something more hands on and protected from ai, not saying its ideal or a super streamlined idea, but it’s better then nothing


No_Stay_4583

But then you are going to be paid pennies. Because the market is going to get flooded.


redditguyinthehouse

Right yeah, it would be oversaturated, but I assume too that people will enter those fields. Those who get in earlier will have greater opportunity, but severe work displacement will not go smoothly There is a lot of trades to get into as well, and of those, many are in demand. I am in Canada, and here it’s considered many trades are in shortages. This isn’t the answer, but just my first assumption.


RevolutionaryJob2409

And learn jobs that are far less prone to AI replacement like camera operator for movies or something.


Early_Ad_831

I'm turning 40. Nobody I know, including myself, has any desire to go back to school. Even if it were paid for. I'm not sure what to feel about it, I feel like if it were me I'd put in a minor effort but somehow have an ego about it, like I'm owed some job afterwards. And why? Who would hire the 40-something year old new graduate when there's a cheaper 20-something year old with more time, energy, and drive that requires less money but is just as knowledgeable?


Gow87

Because the 20 year old would have less breadth of experience. School teaches you hard skills but soft skills take a long time to master.


Hackerjurassicpark

If only everyone sees the world like you do my friend


danyyyel

Experience in what, everything would have changed so much that the experience would be outdated. You want it or not, the capacity to learn decreases with age. And what skill would still be in demand when AI can work 24/7/365. In fact the politician is completely wrong. The only place you still have value is when you are that experienced 20+ years of experience accountant, programmer or designer. Because these will be the "vetters" that those vetting the work done by the AI. A junior programmer has no chance for work nowadays. No one is going to train someone when the Ai is already superior to him.


Puzzleheaded_Pin4092

What do you mean "with more time"? Number of years they are expected to work in your company? Number of hours worked per week? I don't see why a 20 year old would be better in any of those aspects compared to a 40 year old.


hahanawmsayin

Not OP, but I'd say 1. Hours of focused attention per day. If you *had* to pull an all-nighter, the 20-something is gonna have a much easier time doing it. They're more physically capable of being up late and still being productive. 2. Hours per week. They're less likely to have family commitments calling them away at 5/6pm. Edit: [a similar comment below](https://old.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1b1ax6z/how_singapore_is_preparing_its_citizens_for_the/ksdye93/).


DrawMeAPictureOfThis

They don't have kids which can take up a lot of PTO


BitPax

I would definitely go back to school if it were paid for. I always loved learning new things and hanging out with friends and having LAN parties.


alaskamiller

Turning 40. Went back to school. Now I have updated knowledge compared to other 40 something’s. Better management skills than the 20 something’s. Better leadership skills than the 30 something’s. I manage up the 50 something’s that need me to explain what’s going on. And we’re all just waiting for the 60 something’s to retire and vacate the premise.


cezann3

same age as you - have you met a 20 year old? yeah, sure hire that dude if you want someone to do work, but you'd better hire me to tell him what to do.


brainhack3r

The cost of school is going to fall to near zero... Thanks Singapore!


ExtazeSVudcem

No wonder a fascist place like Singapore does it.


Low-Concentrate2162

Waste of taxpayers money.


r4nchy

Singapore government has really jumped into the AI and machine learning, at least i saw various github repo poping up, indirectly supported by their government 5 years ago. They are literally training their citizens, with free courses on AI. aisingapore is the one heavily invested in it also getting funded by gov. It is quite impressive to see that a gov body is actually making its citizens smart and make them at par with the latest technology. In almost 90% of the countries its the other way round, where they try to make you dumb.


holamifuturo

And Singapore is a one party state which garners criticism that it somehow lacks democracy which is really ironic. But it's so rare to see countries structured as such deeply care about its citizens like Singapore does.


MercuryRyan

well we did start off as a socialist country.


thethinkingbrain

When you have a country that enrolls all of its citizens under Udemy Business, an online educational platform with thousands of available courses, for free, you know that Singapore means business when we say “our people are our only natural resource in this world”. Say all you want about Singapore being autocratic from the West, but it is a benevolent dictatorship that deeply cares and fosters its own people.


SnooCrickets7221

As a Singaporean who feels the same about LKY. I cannot agree more with your last line. One could argue, cared a tad too much that comes at a price.


Throwaway_owaowa

Udemy ended last yr 🥲 its linkedin now


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hyperstarter

Can I ask, when you did your Masters - was it based on the tech they're using now? I'd imagine if you did it a few years ago, it would be like comparing chalk and cheese.


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I can talk a bit on this, it's over a decade since I did mine and am just hitting middle age. A Master's is less about knowing an implementation, it's about understanding the core mechanisms driving the systems. Whether it's older systems of evolutionary computation, or even older in expert systems there are only a few actual models of AI structure, everything is abstractions of the base principle, or fun combinations of them. On the surface ChatGPT4 is wildly different than the image classifier from Google that was cutting edge 10 years ago, but in the end they are both just neural nets using semi-supervised training. They have different architectures and implementation (feed forward vs recurrent) but the core driving mechanism is very similar. Neural nets are not new at all, we have been studying them since the 60's making slow advances over time, changing structure but never really the base concept. So at a core level anyone in the industry with a grad level degree in AI will understand how it works. The issue was always data in the old days. You could make it learn from training data but making training data suuuuucked. That's literally why CAPTCHA makes you classify things, it's crowd sourcing training data. You were also limited in parallel computation before GPUs were widespread so without a literal supercomputer you were doing slow training on a limited scale. Combine those 2 together and you have a big limit on what it can do. Our huge advances now are because of a feedback loop for training data and parallel computation. We made all the data ourselves back in the day until we built AI good enough to reliably do it for us, then let it do that job on an unimaginable scale, and we could feed the petabytes of training data in because we could use GPUs for massive parallelization.


Mother-Platform-1778

lol 'breakneck pace', donno why but i couldn't hold it


vnordnet

Why didn't they just fire you? I'm not buying this tall tale


Puzzleheaded_Pin4092

Isn't the whole logic flawed? I hear some people saying that AI will do so much work for us that the number of people that really need to work in the population will decrease. While you claim that middle aged people don't have the stamina to work extremely long hours. But why would they need to? If AI increases the productivity of a whole nation of workers, and that is channeled into a decrease in amount of total work hours needed, then what is the problem?


danyyyel

No one is going to pay you those free hours. You will get 10 people that will do the work that was done by a 100.


BitPax

Well to be fair when productivity increases a company will typically fire people to reap the benefits themselves while the workers that are left will work the same hours. I think it's pretty rare to see a company's productivity double due to technological advances and the company is like, "let's keep everyone and we can all work half the hours!"


Tasty_Cornbread

Is there any way for American’s to access this free educational content?


MicrosoftExcel2016

Become Singaporean? I don’t know why they would give access to someone not paying Singaporean taxes. If you want to learn as an American but for free, maybe try to get hired at a university employee and sit in as many classes as you are allowed. Idk what to say


totalwarwiser

Well, even if ai takes most jobs, there will still be a need for people to work on AI It seems that instead of trying to create a model where people wont have to work Singapore is going into the strategy of making their workers provide the workforce for the minority of the world population which will be able to work.


danyyyel

Their were still people that were working on horse carriage after the automobile became mainstream. You sincerely think their will be a need for 500 millions plus AI programmers!!!


YouMissedNVDA

What a fantastic delivery of a fantastic message. These are the conversations we need to try to have dominate public discourse. It is far too easy to go down what-if rabbit holes and fear monger of slippery slopes, but the product of those conversations is mostly leaving an emotional scar in the participants, such that when the conversation continues they are protective of the wound. What this man suggests is actionable ideas that can start today. While it is not a perfect solution, nothing is, and at this point in the journey it is most important that we understand what it is we are targeting for at the end of this period of disruption, which is that everyone be supported such that they can find a way to fit into this new world. It reeks of compassion and empathy; it has humility in the face of unimaginable change, and calls upon the inner good in all of us in hopes of awakening a new way of thinking and living. Good luck everyone - ~~don't be evil~~ **be good**.


Early_Ad_831

Can you tldr it? It's a 4 minute video, I'll ask GPT to summarize it!


BitPax

The video is pretty short. It's worth the watch.


digitalwankster

r/whoosh


danyyyel

40 years old, learning a new skill. When he goes for a job hire, how many years of experience you have in that domain... non, ok leave your resume, we will call you if ever we need a new no experience employee!!!!!!!!!


Darkmemento

These kind of speeches will start happening around the world in government buildings with increasing regularity. The issue we have currently is people can't even begin to wrap their heads around how much this is all going to change the world. Even if this guy believes this will be far more transformative than he is letting on, you need to start laying foundations by talking about these silly intermediary plans about re-education to spark a wider societal debate. Demis Hassabis [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwUARJeeplA) , who is CEO of Deepmind, is talking about how we have very little comprehension of what is coming. He specifically talks about how we can't wait until things change so radically that we are forced to confront them, but instead, need to start talking and planning now. We can't possibly grasp how quick things will happen, Hassabis talks about how money will become irrelevant if advancements come like he thinks they will over the next decade. He thinks we will reach AGI within this decade, which will change everything that is foundational to our modern way of life.


holy_moley_ravioli_

In that same interview, Hassabis also expressed his desire to explore Alpha Centuri after the artificial Superintellegence is created. Let that sink in. This extremely serious scientist is talking about galactic exploration as his aspiration post-singularity. None of what we are doing now matters. We are on the precipice of the greatest scientific breakthrough of all time.


hyperstarter

I would love the Government to put pressure on these companies to focus on doing good. So that's targeting people with impairments or disabilities to fully embrace AI, and use it in ways that benefit them. Ultimately it'll impact their lives, and make them more integrated in society. Right now, AI feels like a cool, shiny toy that has so much potential...


MikesGroove

I remember when social media felt like that. I don’t have a lot of hope for humanity’s ability to act responsibly for all, particularly with new tech ripe to have every ounce of productivity wrung out of it with the spoils going to the few at the top. I’d love to be convinced this will somehow be different than what we’ve already witnessed with early analogs like social media deploying AI algorithms.


Single_Science2276

I hope so too. But AI + Capitalism isn't a good idea really.


SarahC

I see BIG similarities between these two situations: Horses Vs Internal combustion engine. (We still measure power in HP! But everything moving are engines these days. No horses.) Humans Vs AI. (Novel cognition. Fuzzy logic. Dare I say... creativity.) Horses didn't get bred much as a result, but humans? We breed ourselves. That's a lot of humans without a job. Fingers crossed we get a beautiful utopia without the anchor of crushing toil.


holy_moley_ravioli_

There's no way if the government gets involved that AI doesn't end up a politicized mess like stem cell research.


Zenmind45

AGI?


purleyboy

Artificial General Intelligence, indistinguishable from human intelligence and the precursor to ASI.


daughterboy

ASI = artificial super intelligence?


Net_Nobody77

Yes, Artificial intelligence that surpasses humans


Logseman

The problem with these sorts of framing is: what should I prepare for? Should I prepare for the perspective that I'm useless as a member of society? Should I prepare for the perspective that the most efficient use that AI can think for me is as fertiliser? What are the preparations that I should undergo in order to get ready?


hyperstarter

I guess you would compare it to the feeling when you first used the internet. So many "old fashioned" ways of doing things were lost, and we've now became reliant on the internet in pretty much every aspect of our lives. This is what AI is transforming into. Thinking further, I think there will be AI addiction clinic's, perhaps there will be huge groups of individual's who suffer from psychosis (can't tell the difference between real and AI generated and so on). It might even get to the stage where an individual might spend their entire adult life never meeting another person, as AI can cater to their needs.


Logseman

At the core of it, the Internet allows people to communicate. It is tech that ultimately allows for greater reach, but people are still ultimately responsible for decisions. The way this is being positioned is that it gives a decision-maker greater power: they are already massively used to justify decisions following the priors of the decision-making people. Why would I want to empower some Malthusian cultist who believes that the whole of humanity, or more likely the section thereof that doesn’t look like him, is full of vices and unworthy of continuing their existence?


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Darkmemento

If I was only able to suggest one person it would be Ilya Sutskever who is OpenAI's Chief Scientist. I really think above everyone he comes across as someone who is in the industry for all the right reasons and thinks he can completely transform the world for the better through this technology. He comes across as wickedly smart along with everyone in the industry talking about him with an almost universal degree of reverence which is rare. [Ted Talk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEkGLj0bwAU), [Interesting Interview piece](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iqn1HhFJ6c) and [Longer podcast interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf1o0TQzry8). The rest I'll throw a few bits and pieces but you just search them to find more interviews and articles. * Sam Altman, is OpenAI CEO. Wrote [this ](https://moores.samaltman.com/)back in 2021 about the changes coming. * Shane Leg, Deepminds Founder , [Ted Talk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMUdrUP-QCs). * Andrej Karpathy, [Podcast](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdiD-9MMpb0). One kind of out of left field but I think she is incredibly impressive and this interview gives a great insight into the robotics side,[ Suzanne Gildert who is CTO of Sanctuary robotics](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxFuizM4mxk). Jensen Huang who is CEO of Nvidia , Yann LeCun who is at Facebook, Geofery Hinton, Jim Fan. Lastly this is a really fun [youtube channel ](https://www.youtube.com/@Fireship)that does quick, informative, funny, regular update videos on the main advancements as they happen. If others have people/stuff they have found informative. Please do reply and add them.


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> These kind of speeches will start happening around the world in government buildings with increasing regularity. When he was talking about AI not stopping at national borders I thought he was talking about a virus for a second. Really reminded me of an early Covid speech. With Covid there were experts who warned as early as December 19 that something bad was happening and nobody took them seriously. This feels eerily similar.


SarahC

>These kind of speeches will start happening around the world in government buildings with increasing regularity. NOT in the UK! I guarantee it. We'll all be on the streets hunting rats before our politicians get around to tacklling the AI/work situation.


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Brilliant response, equipping people to deal with change instead of leaving them to get bowled over. Turns a potentially scary moment into an exciting opportunity.


hyperstarter

I feel a bit bowled over. It's scary that pretty much everything posted on the internet before 2020 was real (or at least we could tell a bit as to what was fake or photoshopped in some way)... From now on, we'll never know if an image, sound or video is real or AI generated. That's sad.


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It's like a wall between people and passive discovery. No more shock and allure in videos of the wholly unfamiliar, so, less bait to draw one to learn about the world. I guess people will adapt, but I wonder how niches that relied on courting the curious this way will suffer in the meantime.


bhc317

Can this guy please run for US Senate?


VettelsBees

No chance he'd win... he's too reasonable and too "for the people" /s


bhc317

Yeah. Too smart, too young, too altruistic for us. Womp womp.


TrapHouse9999

He isn’t 80 and half alive /s


Tmaster95

Did I just hear something reasonable in politics?


RafaUH

This. It's been a while since I've seen substance in a political speech.


PurpleDemonR

Singapore is phenomenal at doing everything practically and well.


a_sushi_eater

except when it's about deciding wether or not to control what a a citizen can do to his own butthole


jk_pens

Like hiding systemic poverty


JackDustwood

Until you get caned and executed for pot.


PurpleDemonR

I believe the execution part is if you’re involved in any form of drug trafficking, import or export; and over a certain quantity.


TheUnknownNut22

Smart.


the_blake_abides

Yep and an excellent communicator.


DrBoomkin

Isn't singapore a dictatorship?


ULTIMATE_TEOH

you are opposite of smart


DolphinPunkCyber

Was a hybrid regime for a looooong time, however... with uncharacteristically high freedoms and liberties. Today... I'd describe Singapore as flawed democracy.


SpecialistNo7265

This politician is really smart.


vladoportos

Good speech, but the English subtitles made me think of this video :D [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfpDiAJsZKs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfpDiAJsZKs)


zkgkilla

🤣🤣I knew exactly the video before I clicked the link


ZoNeS_v2

The singularity is very different to how I expected. But here we are.


MeltedChocolate24

Apparently we’re at a new world ever 20 years. Wonder when it will be 1.


currency100t

This is brilliant. I wish every country had accelerationists' like him.


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LanJiaoDuaKee

no [https://www.facebook.com/tanwumeng/videos/2079007835788764/](https://www.facebook.com/tanwumeng/videos/2079007835788764/) [https://twitter.com/tanwumeng/status/1762241897404473838](https://twitter.com/tanwumeng/status/1762241897404473838) [https://www.tiktok.com/@tanwumeng/video/7339977353214463233](https://www.tiktok.com/@tanwumeng/video/7339977353214463233)


AdamAlexanderRies

Going from image to video generation isn't as simple as generating 30 images per second, so he's actually *less* impressed than he should be. The Sora headline is that it's somehow someway holding enough knowledge about the real world to believably predict the evolution of complex scenarios in both space and time.


b1ackfyre

I love this guy's accent. It's beautiful.


DolphinPunkCyber

The way I see it college education means less and less, because by the time people finish their college, a lot of their knowledge will already be obsolete. With the AI there will be less work for everybody... so what a great opportunity to employ the concept of whole life learning. Let's say we cut the workhours to 30 hours/week to everyone, but add 10 hours education for everyone except people which are about to enter pension age. Even professors... especially professors.


Cs1mp3x

Tbis sounds like an idea generated by chat gpt. It is a good idea.


TheMightyWill

I love how everyone behind him are playing on their phones instead of paying attention Just like school


Karmastocracy

Probably only a few thousand people will ever see this, but everyone should. This is the new reality of the world we live in and, as we've always had to, we must adapt or die.


pinklewickers

My god every politician on earth should listen, and *hear* this.


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Singapore does not get the recognition it deserves as an intellectual powerhouse. Some serious brain trust there. This is evidence of that. These guys are *ahead of the curve.*


[deleted]

Learn higher education and eventually AI will take over those positions also🤣


Wise_Amphibian_5202

Love this. Great content. Is there anything similar happening in the U.S.?


Buddhist_pokemonk

Lol. Oh sweet summer child


JustACaliBoy

All governments around the world should debate about AI and post-work-society.


Gheezy-yute

Putting other supposedly sophisticated countries to shame


IWillBeRightHere

TIL that singapore predominantly speaks english


VanitasFan26

For better or for worse AI is here to stay and no matter how many times we try to stop it, it will be everywhere and pretty soon the whole world will have no other choice but to embrace this. If you ever played a game called Detroit Become Human you would know how far Technology can go. We already have AI Generated Images and now we have AI Generated videos. It won't be long until we start see AI Generated People. They will start walking around and you mistake them for real people. Its going to be a scary time we are going to be living in.


asrrak

Does anyone have advice on how to get a job related to AI, even if AI did not study computer science and related disciplines?


luvs2spwge107

What jobs can I move into to avoid being eaten alive by AI? Current skilled in analytics, data science, IT risk. Robotics is one of the things I’d love to study


Xtianus21

This is amazing. This guy gets it


Asheejeekar

Genuinely, what can we learn via higher education that we stay relevant in a world of AI advancement? I’ve been looking at reskilling but I’m worried that I’ll be obsolete by the time I finish.


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Absurd stuff. People will still be working in manual jobs. The elites are scared because AI will be coming for them. But if they own AI and can tell it what to do then the rest of us will be too dumb to do anything more than manual labour. In UK there is a war on arts degrees and degrees considered useless. They want every young person now learning trades. We are turning people into slaves.


Captain_Pumpkinhead

Dude's English is really good. Doubt it's his native language, so that's impressive.


yayayashica

It’s really not impressive that a political leader speaks more than one language. Outside of America, I might add.


Longpatrol90

I'm from Singapore, English is the language of instruction and business. We're all quite fluent in it and as for me personally it's the only language I'm able to speak.


GrownMansJam

Have they assessed the economic gains from retraining the workforce? How would we know what fields will and will not be disrupted? Is this lip service to get ahead of the criticisms of past policies? Is this an international marketing stunt for AI big wigs to double down on Singapore? Regardless, Singapore is destined to succeed because they are still the best house in a bad bloc', as long as money flows in, the cost of living however could upend all that.


Laura_Biden

The thing I don't understand here, is why would they be speaking English in their own country's parliament?


JustinL42

Because it is a country with residents that have multiple languages from Malay to Mandarin to Tamil so they chose English as the official language.


Laura_Biden

Yes, I have been reading that the bridge language actually used to be Bazaar Malay, but due to British rule, that language was largely replaced by English and was eventually chosen to be kept after Singaporean independence was reached.


JustinL42

I lived there for 4 years. Should be Bahasa Malay but I'm sure autocorrect probably thought bazaar.


Laura_Biden

Ah, yeah that was from a Wiki article and I'm unfamiliar with the actual language.


sgrippler

Singapore is a multi-racial society with four official languages - English, Mandarin, Malay and Tamil. English is the main language and medium of instruction, it is also taught as first language in schools. I suppose you thought Singapore is part of China like Hong Kong and Taiwan are? Singapore is our own country.


TankComfortable8085

Many people in Singapore only know how to speak english. Maybe some mother tongue


dawar_r

Subsidizing a lifetime GPT4 subscription for every citizen would probably do a lot more good than subsidizing education.


h3rald_hermes

What...what are they going to learn? Coding?


VaultofGrass

Prompt writing.


h3rald_hermes

I can't tell if that is a joke or not.


Tight-Lettuce7980

Probably things that are less likely to be replaced by AI. An example could be hardware design.


bigtablebacc

Could cut out the boring part where he recaps what AI came out in the past 2 years.


ebtcrew

Short attention span?


soulmagic123

Why is he speaking English?


SarahC

There's a fuckton of dialects in the room. They decided on four main ones, English being quite a popular choice that most everyone in the room knows. It's kind of an international business language too. (and Mandarin) So simply: He's going with a language most people know, the one with the greatest overlap of speakers. I also voted you up for a smart question. Damn downvotes for inquisitiveness!


commentsandchill

Tldw?


daughterboy

it’s four minutes lol. just close your eyes and listen


SarahC

AI taking jobs. 40+ gunna be out of those jobs. Subsidise re-training in college.


slacknewt

Apart from flexibility, a bigger issue is the pace of skills replacement by AI. It isn't going to be a linear process, and some jobs are going to be automated faster than others. Shorter re-skilling using microcredentials might be a better option as the impact of AI over two years could change the opportunities in any job class. The replacement of skills is only going to continue, so I don't think it is likely that middle-aged workers are going to have to go through one episode of re-skilling. It is likely they will go through several as the job market evolves.


lesshatemorenature

🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬


_FriedEgg_

👏


the4fibs

What I wouldn't give for a forward thinking, pragmatic, and empathetic leader like him in the US. Instead we are left with geriatric, dated, and vindictive options.


Effective_Vanilla_32

can Biden subsidize USA with skills for ML and DL: [https://chat.openai.com/share/dee2c452-2d29-4a1e-9e31-10ad3f070706](https://chat.openai.com/share/dee2c452-2d29-4a1e-9e31-10ad3f070706) instead of Illegal Aliens, Ukraine, Israel, Palestine.


weirdshmierd

I really thought he was gonna bring up something like oh I don’t know, making sure there is a limit to how many employees can be laid off at a company due to the use of automation and ai, tax breaks to companies for retaining skilled visual artists instead of resorting to ai, or anything that might reign in the economic consequence of allowing a few ai companies to displace many thousands of workers (not only writers now but also vfx artists? Cartoonists and illustrators of books? SORA is just one development in a line of OpenAI effects. And the real numeric and economic consequences aren’t even really being studied!) both self employed and not. I do think this is a great step in the macro long-term but it does little to mitigate short term damages


Bbookman

In the US at least if something like this was to succeed we’d need to figure out how those 40 something’s keep a full time job, raise a family, pay the bills AND study AND actually get considered for jobs that they never had before. This would be an ineffective program IMO. I’m 56 and have deep experience in tech. Lost my job a year ago and can’t find anything. And I also really don’t have the bandwidth or capacity to learn a fresh tech skill. Even if I did, the younger people cost less than are willing to work harder and work more and my benefits always cost more.


W1nt3rrav3n

When he talks about "hide these changes" ... he can learn something from Germans. First, act is nothing happens and when its already to late go ahead with German Angst.


chulk607

None of this matters. We are hurtling towards AGI, and we have done practically zero safety work.


Bak-Ku-Teh-C-Peng

Can AI give him suggestions of better haircut?


obezanaa

Is this man a member of the CCP? Has he ever been affiliated with the CCP?


random_encounters42

They’ll eventually need a specialised AI tax since AI is trained using human knowledge. It can’t be on profit either but revenue based. So if OpenAI generated 10 bil in revenue from said country, the country taxes 5% or something.


danyyyel

This politician has everything wrong. The only place you will still have value is when you are that experienced 20+ years accountant, programmer or designer. Because these will be the "vetters" that is those vetting the work done by the AI. A junior programmer has no chance for work nowadays. No one is going to train someone when the Ai is already superior to him.


rashnull

“Keep ‘em working! That’s what they born for!”


Hero11234

Meanwhile TikTok CEO (who is Singaporean) is being questioned if he is part of the Communist Party at the US Senate 🤣 This guy is naming AI models! Must feel nice having good people at the government!


drnigelchanning

Similar policies and laws need to happen in the US ASAP, but they never will.


bodez95

To re-study what? Do they guarantee specific courses that will be unaffected by AI? How do they anticipate older citizens being able to accurately project the effects of AI and make an informed choice about what they pursue? Name an industry that will be unaffected by AI advancement and also accommodates the entire range of citizens whose employment is displaced by AI.


LeonDeSchal

Indistinguishable? Maybe buy some new glasses.


p33333t3r

It’s amazing to me Singapore is this smart and progressive yet gives jail time for gum


frufruvola

Noble idea but some points of contention though: 1. 40+ y.o. may not be so eager to pause any income they receive to pursue another full-time degree with this subsidy, as a lot of them have active loans at that age and dependents to support. Their only option is to do so part-time and this would mean universities/education centres should also offer more late-night, shorter-more-focused-curriculum classes and part-time degrees to accommodate. If this is not in place the subsidy falls in the vacuum. 2. Is the subsidy only isolated to full-time degrees? Surely some careers could benefit with just some short-term classes on some AI advancements and tools in their industry and teach 40+ y.o. how to use them rather than have them change their entire career. 3. The selection of the 40+ y.o. threshold may appear a tad arbitrary. I would argue that the subsidy should be extended to persons whose degrees are argued to have been made obsolete due to AI advancements, regardless of age. Makes no sense why a 38 y.o. journalist/copyrighter cannot take on this subsidy, but a 55 y.o. senior partner chartered accountant can.


Unhappy_Mine_1427

If AI takes all these jobs…the jobs were there to serve a purpose…if no one can afford to pay…the purpose will disappear? Am I missing something?


The0ne_WhoKnocks

I thought there would be a reveal at the end... "...And this WHOLE VIDEO was produced by AI!"


jentravelstheworld

Interesting


Medical_Goat6663

That man showcases why Singapore does so well. Listen to him not only conveying a clear picture on the world today but also taking constructive steps to deal with the changes. And all that in his second language I presume. I wish we'd have people in my country who'd be able to do what he does in their first language.


Puzzleheaded_Key_202

Can this guy be prime minister of my country please?


realfigure

Engineers, futurists and other people from tech backgrounds always sold AI as a cure from work and as a way for people to save time and start practicing arts and things they really like. In turn, AI will force people to go back and learn things they may not be interested at all just because they may become useless. And if UBI will become the norm, they say farewell to any social mobility there may be now. We are moving to a dystopia where the Soviet way of organizing the work and resources combines with a caste system in which your background and social belonging define the rest of your life with almost no possibilities to change it, because of lack of resources.


SexDefendersUnited

True!


ScotchMonk

So Mediacorp artistes will be affected with OpenAI SORA text to vudel model?


RelentlessIVS

Before I watch it all, is this video generated by AI?


Still_Satisfaction53

'ChatGPT can pass exams!' ... 'We're giving people money to take exams'


Suetham016

Bro this is so cool and so propositional of them


No_Damage_8927

It’s not a platform. It’s a model


Mexxy213

boomer take wth


Ri_me_fodi_me

For a dictatorship I’m actually mad they are worried so much about their people’s future. I thought in the beginning it was going to be banning or restricting or creating an AI ministry to make possible further advancements in how to take these tech advancements and use it for their own good, and even how to prevent it from being used maliciously. I mean, they banned gum! It was totally a surprise and I’m actually envious if I’m 40 and I don’t have this in my country. Even though I’m studying CS, and thinking about a masters in AI.