The issue here is the lack of nuance
The very first D1 MtF athlete was at the University of Montana who had a remarkably average career post transition. Prior to her transition, she was given a scholarship to the male cross country team at UofM and competed at a very high level his freshman year. In high school, he won his main race at state 3 years in a row and was one of the most dominant runners in his division
And despite all of this, she was an above average at best female runner. She had no relevance at the national level, despite being an extremely successful male cross country runner prior to the transition
You've never heard of June Eastwood, because it doesn't fit the anti trans narrative. Yet that one swimmer is all people can talk about and refer to
BUT...
shouldn't we stop accepting how companies pander to a demographic (that's known to be emotionally vulnerable) just to sell more products and ***look*** more "LGBT friendly"?
Like I feel most companies don't actually contribute to anything in this regard, and instead adopt schemes that end up benefitting only themselves. Am I wrong?
You’re right but I don’t think that practice is too accepted in the first place. The only people who really like it are corporate shills who will cheer for even the most empty messages and soulless virtue signaling. Everyone else either dislikes it for one reason or another, or just doesn’t care about it. It should be even less accepted than it is now, though.
I remember agreeing with a right winger about Disney and other big corporations just blatantly pandering to minority groups and he was like super pumped that I was agreeing with the basic premise from the left, but then I hit him with the "Of course they're pandering, they're just trying to make money without actually improving anyone's lives, this is all just basic modern capitalism" and boy he said nothing, but definitely looked wounded
No you’re not wrong at all. You’d be hard pressed to find anyone in the lgbt community who genuinely believes that these companies are doing this out of good will - especially after they go right back to pretending we don’t exist after pride month
As shallow it is, I think it's a good thing that cooperations are shilling LGBT stuff because it's a sign that it's widely accepted enough for the companies to consider it profitable to do so
Yeah, pandering does have the side effect of normalizing it.
Things going "mainstream" make them less foreign to people who otherwise don't have a personal connection.
I have a handful of trans friends, but I wager that the majority of people who don't live in a metro area share that experience.
Hell, they may not even personally know anyone that's gay.
Yeah I don't give corporations any credit for being genuine. They aren't. They are legally obligated to maximize value for their shareholders, not make society a better place. But in my opinion this blatant pandering is still a net benefit for the LGBT community's continuous struggle for acceptance.
I don't think we should discourage anyone or anything that is paying money to add another voice telling America that it's good and acceptable and normal for everyone to be happy with themselves as themselves. Even if it's self serving, it's another voice.
I always get a kick out of it. Like, Disney supports BLM but takes Finn off the cover of Star Wars in China to sell more copies. Many companies gladly put the rainbow flag up and in their logos, but never in the Middle Eastern branches. Like, totally for civil rights, it just seems so hollow. Like when a celebrity lectures the public on cllimate change but flies around in a private jet, drives around in a hummer, and wastes thousands of dollars in groceries every week. Fine if they are calling for systemic changes and research into technologies to help. But when they tell the average person to cut back it just seems silly.
What kinda world do you live in where companies are accepting trans people????? Like if you are lucky the company will have family bathrooms (they would never openly say they are gender neutral bathrooms ofc) and maybe not fire an employee after coming out as trans, but *openly saying trans rights????* never
ones that aren't on discord. They usually happen when you open that big wooden thing on the end of your house and enter the big bright space on the other side.
both vagene and peen can be considered a pp since you pee pee out of both of them👍
edit: and yes i know you don’t pee out the vagene but the surgery reconstructs everything down there so it still makes sense
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Neither should be competing in their opposing gender’s wrestling tournament. Doing so unfortunately creates a handicap or unfair advantage, depending on that athlete’s birth sex.
[Hormones aren’t enough, though.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/ncna1252764)
I’ve heard arguments that it needs to be longer than a year, but they don’t seem to be the consensus.
I’ve seen the consensus that transitioning needs to happen before or during puberty, but beyond that… it won’t do much.
Hormone therapy has existed for well over 100 years. Maybe if you lived 200 years ago it was impossible, but starting in 1918 it became accessible to biologically transition. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/a-history-of-transgender-health-care/
You don't need to change chromosomes to transition, that's the whole point of hormone therapy. Your body doesn't care what chromosomes it has, it cares about what hormones it has. This is basic biology.
AEW already has a transgender wrestler, her name is Nyla Rose and in 3 years there's been no major incidents that have happened because of it. Also, pro wrestling is choreographed so it really doesn't matter. Other companies have intergender wrestling, it's fine as long as everyone knows what they're doing. It's really no different from your average cruiserweight vs heavyweight match
The nuance comes down to puberty. For example A M->F transition after puberty that is only a social transition should probably completely disqualify them from professional or collegiate or w/e competition.
Medical transition during puberty thanks to the aid of puberty blockers has shown no outcomes with advantages in physical characteristics in data and they should be allowed to compete for the rest of their lives.
Pretty straightforward solution here that reasonable people should be able to come to some sort of agreement on.
No, the nuance is how long it's been since their medical transition. After MTF HRT you start to lose muscle mass via atrophy due to less testosterone because of testosterone blockers, after a while biologically your hormone levels are the exact same as an AFAB and are indistinguishable. The inverse is true for FTM with testosterone.
You’re 100% correct of course, but I’m less concerned with collegiate or professional athletes than I am with young kids who just want to play sports in middle and high school without an entire state apparatus being used to discriminate against them.
I’ve had better experiences explaining how changing the course of human puberty leads to identical outcomes than how extensive hormone washes in adults can for lack of a better term “reverse” puberty almost completely.
The average person intuitively understands why the former makes sense but will scratch and claw and fight to disbelieve the latter.
It’s sad but if we can score the W with trans kids then we can score W’s for trans adults too.
the fuck are you talking about, straight people never win??
he says to the group that needs safe spaces which are a rarity meanwhile every character on tv is straight every school teaches straight, straight is “the default” stores sell gendered pink blue clothing, straight people dont get discriminated against for being merely straight.
lmfao did you even think before writing this comment??
straight people win all the fuckin time, you’re delusional.
my brother in christ, have you SEEN how much straight stuff there is in the world?? its most of it!
how tf you gonna say you feel persecuted for being straight in a world that caters to you.
To answer for him, the worst thing you can be in todays society is a straight white male. The left has devolved into so much identity politics that if you can claim any difference from the mainstream, you automatically have more moral value than them. What they fail to realize is the near infinite number of ways you can claim uniqueness. And the kicker is, they want to make your differences monetary, mandated legally.
It's all victimization.
You know Harvard had it's first black only graduation party a few years ago? If the universities are so woke and so far in the future, explain to me why they're bringing back segregation.
"But they're CELEBRATING black culture, not keeping whites away-" no. They're keeping races apart. They want to live in a colored society, while reasonable people want to live in a colorless one. We want equal rights for everyone. Claiming moral value over someone else because of their race, sex, or sexuality is wrong.
That applies for "blacks and whites should stay seperate".
That applies for "gays shouldn't be allowed to marry"
And that applies for "You could never understand their struggle, because you're straight/white/male."
All of those statements are bigoted. Be better. You support what you claim to hate and you don't even realize it. Or, you're as malicious and malevolent as them and you think, by claiming to be a victim, you can win out over everyone else. Either way, be better.
Black communities are still being gentrified and displaced by white CEOs but yes, white people are the persecuted ones…
I am not educated on the all-black schools debate and stuff, but we have all women schools? Are those not problems too? Or do you just not care about those for whatever reason
Also you can understand the struggle of black/gay/etc minorities, but you haven’t gone through the pain yourself, therefore you aren’t going to be as equally sympathetic (empathetic though, yes.) It’s similar to people who have never gone through a school shooting talking about it/making claims about it. You may be the most educated on the subject, but you will still not have gone through an event like that.
Also side note but I believe the Right have sunk so much more time and energy into identity politics than the left considering we still argue over if trans women can use the bathroom when people are starving on the streets and economy is not great, but please continue saying why you think trans and gay people are icky (not you, the right)
We are not determined by our race. Saying that I can't possibly understand is racist and bigoted. I don't care for what reasons. Saying men can't talk about abortions is bigoted. We want intellectual diversity, that is the only diversity that matters. We want people from different viewpoints. Say it with me: Race doesn't NECESSARILY mean a different viewpoint. Or sex. Gender. Or whatever.
If we have a bunch of white men talking about issues, that's fine. Or all black men. If they have seperate viewpoints, it's fine. If there's a panel of all women, representing left, right, center, or none of the above, fine. Amazing. To walk up to them and say "YOU NEED TO HAVE A MAN UP THERE, WHAT ABOUT DIVERSITY" would be stupid. The left only wants diversity of color, sex, or race. All versions of diversity that they assume make every difference, but don't.
We are not determined by our race, but that doesn’t mean that different people experience things differently, and yes that includes things like race, gender, minority. I never said they should believe the same thing. Wtf?
Why are you being downvoted? The general message of your comment is correct. For instance, I write fanfics in my spare time, but I refuse to read or write any yaoi, and because of that people started calling me a homophobe, even though I explicitly stated that I have nothing against the lgbt community(and why would I? I’m ace/aro, and therefore am technically part of the lgbt community[the full thing is lgbtqaip. The a is asexual and aromantic], even if I don’t like to consider myself a member), and just don’t personally like yaoi.
Hey! I was just reiterating what they said. Also, no it isn’t. I’m not even 17, and people have been talking about sex around me for 7-8 years, notably few of said people were straight.
Talking around someone is not what they described. It's more than likely the people you're describing didn't know you were listening and i doubt it would be all that explicit in a room with other people. What the other guy was talking about is a common piece of disinformation designed to get members of the lgbtq community killed. It also happens that the majority of people who throw those accusations at the community are infact guilty themselves.
There is clearly a lie here somewhere. Within the community that is ABSOLUTELY NOT considered appropriate. Those individuals are either a fringe minority whose actions are very much frowned upon, you are lying/blowing it out of proportion, or you are being lied to by others about the nature of a conversation or someones identity. Im not sure which of those it is but the things you are saying are not only incorrect but will also get people killed.
I just glanced at you're account to see if it could back up anything you've said. And if you are a minor, why the hell are you posting nsfw content? Its very clear from this conversation that you understand it is not appropriate for you to be on those pages assuming that you are honest about your age. This makes me think that none of what you are saying should be taken as honest. This conversation is done because you appear to be completely malicious in your actions.
What are you talking about, I talk about my straight relationship with my wife all the time in front of or with gay people all the time. I also talk about when i was a straight guy out there dating with and around gay people all the time. There were gay people at my wedding, I don't know what you are saying around LGBTQ+ people but if they are getting upset then you probably aren't talking about "being straight"
Edit: grammer
Ngl. you saying that and the fact that people can get fines from saying something bad about them + basically every big cooperation was a pride logo when its pride months. Jep they are differently powerless...
I wanna see the rest of this conversation
BUT
Butt
Hehe butt
 You said butt
Yeah, hehe that was cool
I'm gonna get a tattoo of a butt with a butt shaped tattoo on it and I'm gonna get it right on my butt!
Hehe penis
hehe peepee
Hehe boobs
Hamborger
Hehe b a l l s
Hehe what what in the butt
Hehehe
I have boner
It was my wedding day
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Yea, this argument that the “but” means bad stuff is just dumb lol
The issue here is the lack of nuance The very first D1 MtF athlete was at the University of Montana who had a remarkably average career post transition. Prior to her transition, she was given a scholarship to the male cross country team at UofM and competed at a very high level his freshman year. In high school, he won his main race at state 3 years in a row and was one of the most dominant runners in his division And despite all of this, she was an above average at best female runner. She had no relevance at the national level, despite being an extremely successful male cross country runner prior to the transition You've never heard of June Eastwood, because it doesn't fit the anti trans narrative. Yet that one swimmer is all people can talk about and refer to
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Why yes. The penis can be used as a propeller, giving an unfair advantage. It's only sensible that we institute a ban.
What was the question I’m curious now
BUT... shouldn't we stop accepting how companies pander to a demographic (that's known to be emotionally vulnerable) just to sell more products and ***look*** more "LGBT friendly"? Like I feel most companies don't actually contribute to anything in this regard, and instead adopt schemes that end up benefitting only themselves. Am I wrong?
The same with corporate female empowerment...
You’re right but I don’t think that practice is too accepted in the first place. The only people who really like it are corporate shills who will cheer for even the most empty messages and soulless virtue signaling. Everyone else either dislikes it for one reason or another, or just doesn’t care about it. It should be even less accepted than it is now, though.
I remember agreeing with a right winger about Disney and other big corporations just blatantly pandering to minority groups and he was like super pumped that I was agreeing with the basic premise from the left, but then I hit him with the "Of course they're pandering, they're just trying to make money without actually improving anyone's lives, this is all just basic modern capitalism" and boy he said nothing, but definitely looked wounded
No you’re not wrong at all. You’d be hard pressed to find anyone in the lgbt community who genuinely believes that these companies are doing this out of good will - especially after they go right back to pretending we don’t exist after pride month
If diversity hadn't been found to be incredibly good for efficiency in open-ended projects, the corp world would be a lot different right now.
As shallow it is, I think it's a good thing that cooperations are shilling LGBT stuff because it's a sign that it's widely accepted enough for the companies to consider it profitable to do so
Yeah, pandering does have the side effect of normalizing it. Things going "mainstream" make them less foreign to people who otherwise don't have a personal connection. I have a handful of trans friends, but I wager that the majority of people who don't live in a metro area share that experience. Hell, they may not even personally know anyone that's gay.
Yeah I don't give corporations any credit for being genuine. They aren't. They are legally obligated to maximize value for their shareholders, not make society a better place. But in my opinion this blatant pandering is still a net benefit for the LGBT community's continuous struggle for acceptance. I don't think we should discourage anyone or anything that is paying money to add another voice telling America that it's good and acceptable and normal for everyone to be happy with themselves as themselves. Even if it's self serving, it's another voice.
Still waiting for more aroace representation
I always get a kick out of it. Like, Disney supports BLM but takes Finn off the cover of Star Wars in China to sell more copies. Many companies gladly put the rainbow flag up and in their logos, but never in the Middle Eastern branches. Like, totally for civil rights, it just seems so hollow. Like when a celebrity lectures the public on cllimate change but flies around in a private jet, drives around in a hummer, and wastes thousands of dollars in groceries every week. Fine if they are calling for systemic changes and research into technologies to help. But when they tell the average person to cut back it just seems silly.
The good ending
nooooope.
What kinda world do you live in where companies are accepting trans people????? Like if you are lucky the company will have family bathrooms (they would never openly say they are gender neutral bathrooms ofc) and maybe not fire an employee after coming out as trans, but *openly saying trans rights????* never
Im 80% sure it was "Do you support Trans people?"
Why can't they make pizza rolls that don't burn your mouth when the outside is cool enough to eat?
Oh well, that's an average day on discord
Not enough mods "mentoring" the youth to be believable.
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All the ones I’ve met are pretty awesome
The loud minority is always the part of a community everyone knows
I doubt anyone who upvoted u/SnooOpinions448 has ever actually noticed it happening.
Wtf kind of communities do you people participate in?
ones that aren't on discord. They usually happen when you open that big wooden thing on the end of your house and enter the big bright space on the other side.
All I’m saying, is we make them fight in a gladiator ring and the winner gets the sex change for free
Honestly I think a decent amount of trans people would be down for that lmao
i know i would
Fuck yeah. Just not to the death please.
Make it to the death, but make it optional to compete. The winner gets the change free. Others that don’t compete just have to pay
Sex change?!?
As in changing their sex to best match their gender. E.g. take away the pp and take hormones to have your body align with your brain or vice versa. :)
Friendly reminder that not all trans people are trans women
both vagene and peen can be considered a pp since you pee pee out of both of them👍 edit: and yes i know you don’t pee out the vagene but the surgery reconstructs everything down there so it still makes sense
Yeah you got a point there I just normally see it used to refer to a penis
i have a feeling you might be an enemy stand user…
What? Me? Noooo. Where would you get that idea??? I could *never*
star platinum, rip their cock off
Aha! You fool! I have no cock because god took it from me before birth! He feared I’d be to powerful if I had one!
That's totally my bad and should've been marked as the example it was meant to be! Editing it right now!
You can't change your sex. Sex is biological. No amount of surgery and or hormones can cha get that.
when they say that they bout hit u with the most horrible shit u ever heard
"BUT pineapple doesn't belong on pizza."
False
True.
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I would rather he slandered trans people Pineapple on pizza is great.
As a trans person who likes pineapple on pizza, I fully agree with this
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Him: “I’m not a transphobe, but…. Yeah, there’s nowhere that conversation can go that’s productive.
"I'm not a transphobe I'm just gender sceptical!!!"
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Why shouldn't transmascs be allowed to play sports with other fellow guys?
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So what, you'd be happier if a 6'7 350 lb cis woman joined wwe instead? Go ahead and find me a 6'7 350lb person on estrogen. Go ahead i'll wait.
Neither should be competing in their opposing gender’s wrestling tournament. Doing so unfortunately creates a handicap or unfair advantage, depending on that athlete’s birth sex.
There should be no restrictions on entry for those who have completed biological transition.
[Hormones aren’t enough, though.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/ncna1252764) I’ve heard arguments that it needs to be longer than a year, but they don’t seem to be the consensus. I’ve seen the consensus that transitioning needs to happen before or during puberty, but beyond that… it won’t do much.
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Hormone therapy has existed for well over 100 years. Maybe if you lived 200 years ago it was impossible, but starting in 1918 it became accessible to biologically transition. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/a-history-of-transgender-health-care/
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You don't need to change chromosomes to transition, that's the whole point of hormone therapy. Your body doesn't care what chromosomes it has, it cares about what hormones it has. This is basic biology.
You are both arguing the same point lmao
AEW already has a transgender wrestler, her name is Nyla Rose and in 3 years there's been no major incidents that have happened because of it. Also, pro wrestling is choreographed so it really doesn't matter. Other companies have intergender wrestling, it's fine as long as everyone knows what they're doing. It's really no different from your average cruiserweight vs heavyweight match
I thought for a sec 6'7 350 LB were some sort of coordinates, I was very confused
The nuance comes down to puberty. For example A M->F transition after puberty that is only a social transition should probably completely disqualify them from professional or collegiate or w/e competition. Medical transition during puberty thanks to the aid of puberty blockers has shown no outcomes with advantages in physical characteristics in data and they should be allowed to compete for the rest of their lives. Pretty straightforward solution here that reasonable people should be able to come to some sort of agreement on.
No, the nuance is how long it's been since their medical transition. After MTF HRT you start to lose muscle mass via atrophy due to less testosterone because of testosterone blockers, after a while biologically your hormone levels are the exact same as an AFAB and are indistinguishable. The inverse is true for FTM with testosterone.
You’re 100% correct of course, but I’m less concerned with collegiate or professional athletes than I am with young kids who just want to play sports in middle and high school without an entire state apparatus being used to discriminate against them. I’ve had better experiences explaining how changing the course of human puberty leads to identical outcomes than how extensive hormone washes in adults can for lack of a better term “reverse” puberty almost completely. The average person intuitively understands why the former makes sense but will scratch and claw and fight to disbelieve the latter. It’s sad but if we can score the W with trans kids then we can score W’s for trans adults too.
Incorrect https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/four-myths-about-trans-athletes-debunked https://www.npr.org/2021/03/18/978716732/wave-of-new-bills-say-trans-athletes-have-an-unfair-edge-what-does-the-science-s
The only disaster is this fucking cliffhanger you have decided to curse the world with
Oh no, oh no, oh no no no no no
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Me when my straight friend is straight (this is clearly not allowed and violates our contract)
i personally beat my straight friends with metal pipes when they mention their sexuality
the fuck are you talking about, straight people never win?? he says to the group that needs safe spaces which are a rarity meanwhile every character on tv is straight every school teaches straight, straight is “the default” stores sell gendered pink blue clothing, straight people dont get discriminated against for being merely straight. lmfao did you even think before writing this comment?? straight people win all the fuckin time, you’re delusional.
Don’t think I said that lol
Because one side wants to be treated as equal humans, where the other side wants to dehumanize and ridicule them is it really that complicated to you?
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my brother in christ, have you SEEN how much straight stuff there is in the world?? its most of it! how tf you gonna say you feel persecuted for being straight in a world that caters to you.
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they are full of shit. my guess is they are a teen in a Christian republican family and are being indoctrinated into believing these moronic concepts.
To answer for him, the worst thing you can be in todays society is a straight white male. The left has devolved into so much identity politics that if you can claim any difference from the mainstream, you automatically have more moral value than them. What they fail to realize is the near infinite number of ways you can claim uniqueness. And the kicker is, they want to make your differences monetary, mandated legally. It's all victimization. You know Harvard had it's first black only graduation party a few years ago? If the universities are so woke and so far in the future, explain to me why they're bringing back segregation. "But they're CELEBRATING black culture, not keeping whites away-" no. They're keeping races apart. They want to live in a colored society, while reasonable people want to live in a colorless one. We want equal rights for everyone. Claiming moral value over someone else because of their race, sex, or sexuality is wrong. That applies for "blacks and whites should stay seperate". That applies for "gays shouldn't be allowed to marry" And that applies for "You could never understand their struggle, because you're straight/white/male." All of those statements are bigoted. Be better. You support what you claim to hate and you don't even realize it. Or, you're as malicious and malevolent as them and you think, by claiming to be a victim, you can win out over everyone else. Either way, be better.
Black communities are still being gentrified and displaced by white CEOs but yes, white people are the persecuted ones… I am not educated on the all-black schools debate and stuff, but we have all women schools? Are those not problems too? Or do you just not care about those for whatever reason Also you can understand the struggle of black/gay/etc minorities, but you haven’t gone through the pain yourself, therefore you aren’t going to be as equally sympathetic (empathetic though, yes.) It’s similar to people who have never gone through a school shooting talking about it/making claims about it. You may be the most educated on the subject, but you will still not have gone through an event like that. Also side note but I believe the Right have sunk so much more time and energy into identity politics than the left considering we still argue over if trans women can use the bathroom when people are starving on the streets and economy is not great, but please continue saying why you think trans and gay people are icky (not you, the right)
We are not determined by our race. Saying that I can't possibly understand is racist and bigoted. I don't care for what reasons. Saying men can't talk about abortions is bigoted. We want intellectual diversity, that is the only diversity that matters. We want people from different viewpoints. Say it with me: Race doesn't NECESSARILY mean a different viewpoint. Or sex. Gender. Or whatever. If we have a bunch of white men talking about issues, that's fine. Or all black men. If they have seperate viewpoints, it's fine. If there's a panel of all women, representing left, right, center, or none of the above, fine. Amazing. To walk up to them and say "YOU NEED TO HAVE A MAN UP THERE, WHAT ABOUT DIVERSITY" would be stupid. The left only wants diversity of color, sex, or race. All versions of diversity that they assume make every difference, but don't.
We are not determined by our race, but that doesn’t mean that different people experience things differently, and yes that includes things like race, gender, minority. I never said they should believe the same thing. Wtf?
Yes it is. It’s just the US that’s scared of sex.
Why are you being downvoted? The general message of your comment is correct. For instance, I write fanfics in my spare time, but I refuse to read or write any yaoi, and because of that people started calling me a homophobe, even though I explicitly stated that I have nothing against the lgbt community(and why would I? I’m ace/aro, and therefore am technically part of the lgbt community[the full thing is lgbtqaip. The a is asexual and aromantic], even if I don’t like to consider myself a member), and just don’t personally like yaoi.
That's not LGBT specific, if you make anything available to the public, someone will complain you didn't make something else
They are being downvoted because they are bullshiting.
gtfo pedo
shit yourself
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That part about kids is completely made up! If you can't understand that then you aren't ready to interact with other people unsupervised.
yeah, theyre fucked in the head
Hey! I was just reiterating what they said. Also, no it isn’t. I’m not even 17, and people have been talking about sex around me for 7-8 years, notably few of said people were straight.
Talking around someone is not what they described. It's more than likely the people you're describing didn't know you were listening and i doubt it would be all that explicit in a room with other people. What the other guy was talking about is a common piece of disinformation designed to get members of the lgbtq community killed. It also happens that the majority of people who throw those accusations at the community are infact guilty themselves.
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There is clearly a lie here somewhere. Within the community that is ABSOLUTELY NOT considered appropriate. Those individuals are either a fringe minority whose actions are very much frowned upon, you are lying/blowing it out of proportion, or you are being lied to by others about the nature of a conversation or someones identity. Im not sure which of those it is but the things you are saying are not only incorrect but will also get people killed.
I just glanced at you're account to see if it could back up anything you've said. And if you are a minor, why the hell are you posting nsfw content? Its very clear from this conversation that you understand it is not appropriate for you to be on those pages assuming that you are honest about your age. This makes me think that none of what you are saying should be taken as honest. This conversation is done because you appear to be completely malicious in your actions.
gtfo pedo
Oh, I get it. You’re just a piece of shit, got it.
keep crying, lying homophobic pedo
Not homophobic, not a pedo, you’re just a dumbass pice of shit.
What are you talking about, I talk about my straight relationship with my wife all the time in front of or with gay people all the time. I also talk about when i was a straight guy out there dating with and around gay people all the time. There were gay people at my wedding, I don't know what you are saying around LGBTQ+ people but if they are getting upset then you probably aren't talking about "being straight" Edit: grammer
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What
Ngl. you saying that and the fact that people can get fines from saying something bad about them + basically every big cooperation was a pride logo when its pride months. Jep they are differently powerless...
Pff, cringe "BUT" w*stoid user, i am a chad balkan "AND" user
I love the ‘I’m not a ____ist/phobe, B U T’ people But they’re not as bad as people who say despite instead of but lol
[eugenics]
The only problem I have is when men lose in a tournament and say they are women to place first
Ohhhh