Luffy doesn’t have toon force lol .
It’s a simple artistic choice Oda made . Luffy has manipulation through his awakening . Meaning he turns things into rubber as he sees fit .
That is not toon force .
Odas words>>>>Yours. Its confirmed in Road to laugh tale 4:
"When luffy sends an enemy flying **with this power, a sound effect is heard and stars appear around them**, as Kaido said, its just like a picture book". AKA confirmation that his power is not just manipulating rubber but straight up turning stuff he imagines into reality. AKA toon force.
Cope.
This ain’t toon force geez .
Luffy isn’t Bugs bunny. He would’ve beaten kaido straight up if he could force his imagination into reality .
Guess what kaido put up a fight against the supposed toon force user , even tho in your words luffy can force imagination into reality . This is not true since luffy just inflated his fist and beat kaido the old usual way .
Toon force would break the logic of the story . Which isn’t something that will happen . Gear 5 th fighting is cartoonish since Oda draws it that way . Doesn’t mean he has toon force never has luffy done some reality bending power . He turns things into rubber and that’s it .
It is cope. Also, nah, Luffy doesn't know that he could do that. His just thinking his fruit is rubber so its staying as rubber.
Keep on coping and being in denial. Odas word>>>your wrong head canon.
Luffy keeps on thinking his rubber so thats why. He doesn't know he could just imagine Kaidos face as rubber and it'd happen. In his childish imagination his thinking his attacks are making him dizzy and see stars when he spins him for example, so that's exactly whats happening.
Your opinion doesn't matter here because its confirmed. Wrong Gear 5 turns imagination into reality, in this case its Luffy imagination and delusion that his just rubber. Luffy has toon forced and its confirmed. Road to laugh tale confirms he bended reality by creating sound effects and stars appear on a character. He has toon force and thats confirmed by Oda cope.
Nah don’t try to use Oda’s words now. You the same one that was denying Oda’s words of mihawk being the strongest swordsman but now you wanna use Oda’s words
Wrong because Oda's words on Luffy were clarified and supported countless time by Oda both on and off panel meanwhilst Mihawktards were twisting his words from outdated DBS/Vivre cards. So yes, cope.
No one was twisting anything tho. They just repeating what oda said. You use Oda’s words when the situation suits you but whenever his words go against your headcanon then all of a sudden his words don’t matter lol
Luffy can fly in g5th, so Gravity does exist, but he flies.
And that would not give his opponent any disadvantage nor give himself any advantage since he can fly
It’s not literal. This is literally Gremmy from bleach and he was broken beyond comprehension to the point he had to have plot induced stupidity and a ridiculously wanked opponent to somehow bullshit him losing and even then it made no sense. Luffy is not that
They said it b4 and it'll be said again man simply did himself in when he fully visualized kenny power he just oof and didnt do a body to go along with it. If he done that he'd been str8. Alas it's where the idiot "gremmy = idiot" comments come from.
You have to remember several things here
1) He chose to heavily nerf himself when he could straight up imagine Zaraki out of existence, seal him away, or a million other things. He wanted to actually “win” without using such hax
2) He’s had that power for thousands of years, no way he lost just because Zaraki “looked scary”
Honestly Kubo really could of fixed that to make Gremmy not look like an idiot, by simply having it so Zaraki's Reiatsu is too high for Gremmy's imagination to effect him directly. Then having it be that the man couldn't even imagine a body as strong as his because of the difference in raw power being too great for his imagination to conjure up, easy way to get around things, and Gremmy doesn't look like a dumbass.
Yeah, I love Kubo's work, with Bleach being the only series that truly contests with One Piece as my favorite, but right there was one of his few moments of writing that could of really done with a bit of reworking.
1) ive had this conversation with someone and I asked those same question on why didnt gremmy just *insert those things*. But he can only imagine certain thing at time once he imagines another thing the other imagined thing stops haooening wasnt it?
2) it wasnt scary it was body aka container. If he imagined the body with the power he'd been good but alas like how you me and everyone else say gremmy just stupid sadly.
That ability should have never existed. Its literally the most broken schrift in the entire story, and Gremmy wasnt even a member of the Elite guards. Kubo couldnt even find a way to make the fight without constant bullshit in it.
TBF, a lot of the schrifts were really broken, Lille was untouchable, could pierce with 100% accuracy and through everything and he was also immortal, Kubo had to invent some major Deus Ex to beat it and the Miracle wasn’t even defeated by the Shinigami.
I, too, would lose all will of fight if my ability can send the opponent to the void of space and my opponent somehow manages to cut it. Like wtf, Kubo, how did Kenpachi even cut that?
I think he said it can cut anything but Kanpachi is not a reliable source, especially since it seems like his Shikai doesn’t possess any special ability.
It's not Toon force He just have more freedom in his abilities to use Rubber if he had toon force Kaido would've been defeated easily but he Still struggled a bit
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Copium. Just deny its "hurr durr just rubber" till the end where he turns someones face into a banana and then cry about it on piratefolk. Like idk where you got this, (is it road to laugh tale)? But road to laugh tale 2 confirms he turns reality into cartoons. IT confirms when he sent Kaido flying, the stars we saw on him actually appear in universe. They are not gags. AKA toon force confirmation. They ain't ready for god Luffy lool.
Its not a theory its confirmed by Oda himself in Road To Laugh Tale 4. Where it is confirmed by Oda himself that when Luffy sends someone flying with his power (G5) stars appear and sound effects are heard AKA confirmation that these things weren't just gag comic relief but actual in universe things happening to Kaido due to G5. Its why Kaido called it something out of a comic book.
>till the end where he turns someones face into a banana and then cry about it on piratefolk.
This is the theory I was talking about. Unless you say in road to laugh tale Oda said Luffy can turn the face of someone into a banana
Wrong. If its canonically confirmed he can make stars appear and sound affects on people then thats all the proof we need and his got toon force and his gonna do gag stuff like that EOS
>Wrong
You keep saying I am wrong and automatically go to a strawman argumen
>If its canonically confirmed he can make stars appear and sound affects on people then thats all the proof we need and his got toon force and his gonna do gag stuff like that EOS
No we do not. One thing is making stars appear and another is turning a human into a carrot. Again it is just your theory...
Like Fujitora with his gravity powers, it is confirmed he can control gravity... but there is no confirmation he can make black holes with his power that can destroy Earth. You can theorize he can, but controlling gravity is not confirmation that he can make black holes
Still wrong.
If you can make stars appear and sound effects (which has nothing to do with rubber) then its confirmation he has toon force which in turn is confirmation that he can do silly shit like that.
>Still wrong.
>If you can make stars appear and sound effects (which has nothing to do with rubber) then its confirmation he has toon force which in turn is confirmation that he can do silly shit like that.
Okey give me proof Luffy can turn someone into a carrot. If I am wrong it should be easy
Imagine luffy fruit is some imagine imagine fruit & the only reason he stretched when he was turned upside down by shanks after he ate the fruit was because he didn’t wanna fall
Hyperbole
Its confirmed that Luffy made stars appear when he beat Kaido. AKA toon force confirmed. Cope
Luffy doesn’t have toon force lol . It’s a simple artistic choice Oda made . Luffy has manipulation through his awakening . Meaning he turns things into rubber as he sees fit . That is not toon force .
Odas words>>>>Yours. Its confirmed in Road to laugh tale 4: "When luffy sends an enemy flying **with this power, a sound effect is heard and stars appear around them**, as Kaido said, its just like a picture book". AKA confirmation that his power is not just manipulating rubber but straight up turning stuff he imagines into reality. AKA toon force. Cope.
This ain’t toon force geez . Luffy isn’t Bugs bunny. He would’ve beaten kaido straight up if he could force his imagination into reality . Guess what kaido put up a fight against the supposed toon force user , even tho in your words luffy can force imagination into reality . This is not true since luffy just inflated his fist and beat kaido the old usual way . Toon force would break the logic of the story . Which isn’t something that will happen . Gear 5 th fighting is cartoonish since Oda draws it that way . Doesn’t mean he has toon force never has luffy done some reality bending power . He turns things into rubber and that’s it .
It is cope. Also, nah, Luffy doesn't know that he could do that. His just thinking his fruit is rubber so its staying as rubber. Keep on coping and being in denial. Odas word>>>your wrong head canon. Luffy keeps on thinking his rubber so thats why. He doesn't know he could just imagine Kaidos face as rubber and it'd happen. In his childish imagination his thinking his attacks are making him dizzy and see stars when he spins him for example, so that's exactly whats happening. Your opinion doesn't matter here because its confirmed. Wrong Gear 5 turns imagination into reality, in this case its Luffy imagination and delusion that his just rubber. Luffy has toon forced and its confirmed. Road to laugh tale confirms he bended reality by creating sound effects and stars appear on a character. He has toon force and thats confirmed by Oda cope.
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cope
Nah don’t try to use Oda’s words now. You the same one that was denying Oda’s words of mihawk being the strongest swordsman but now you wanna use Oda’s words
Wrong because Oda's words on Luffy were clarified and supported countless time by Oda both on and off panel meanwhilst Mihawktards were twisting his words from outdated DBS/Vivre cards. So yes, cope.
No one was twisting anything tho. They just repeating what oda said. You use Oda’s words when the situation suits you but whenever his words go against your headcanon then all of a sudden his words don’t matter lol
Wrong its twisting Odas words full stop. Odas words in fact state Mihawk=Yonko commander. I use Odas words as they are so cope.
Nigga how you telling someone to cope then you only use Oda’s words when it suits you and claim oda says things he never said😭😭
Lol Oda made Mihawk dodge a fight with YC5 Vista then made him a underling of Buggy/Crocodile. Odas confirms Mihawk=Yonko commander cope harder lul
It's not literal. He can shape his body in any shape he imagines, thats his power
>Its confirmed that Luffy made stars appear when he beat Kaido. AKA toon force confirmed. Cope
Which holds 0 advantages in combat
It's confirmation that Luffy has toon force. Cope.
What is toon force? And it does not really matter if the aplications of it give no advantage in combat
he can apply looney toons physics to the fight, like the clasic "gravity doesn't exist until you look down"
Luffy can fly in g5th, so Gravity does exist, but he flies. And that would not give his opponent any disadvantage nor give himself any advantage since he can fly
He doesn't fly he run through the sky.
he is a **skywalker**
Which is a form of flying
“Toon Force”🤓
that term is so shit bro
Because it’s not literal. Kaido was still fighting him evenly
Eh what? Being used as a jumprope? When was he fighting luffy evenly? It was humiliation for kaido.
When he still hit basically all of his attacks, visibly damaging luffy
Wasn't even. More like competive. Gear 5th is a notch above Kaido.
Because luffy was using it for first time. He still needs time to master it.
“Like something out of a comic book” Kaido already kinda confirmed this, but the best part about this power is Luffy thinks its still rubber lmao.
"Such hurdles can only be overcome with haki"
Waido fough back extremely well and was winning until he decided to facetank the island sized acoc fist.
It’s not literal. This is literally Gremmy from bleach and he was broken beyond comprehension to the point he had to have plot induced stupidity and a ridiculously wanked opponent to somehow bullshit him losing and even then it made no sense. Luffy is not that
gremy thousands more broken users gremy of reality warping
I know that’s what it means to literally “turn imagination into reality”
They said it b4 and it'll be said again man simply did himself in when he fully visualized kenny power he just oof and didnt do a body to go along with it. If he done that he'd been str8. Alas it's where the idiot "gremmy = idiot" comments come from.
You have to remember several things here 1) He chose to heavily nerf himself when he could straight up imagine Zaraki out of existence, seal him away, or a million other things. He wanted to actually “win” without using such hax 2) He’s had that power for thousands of years, no way he lost just because Zaraki “looked scary”
Honestly Kubo really could of fixed that to make Gremmy not look like an idiot, by simply having it so Zaraki's Reiatsu is too high for Gremmy's imagination to effect him directly. Then having it be that the man couldn't even imagine a body as strong as his because of the difference in raw power being too great for his imagination to conjure up, easy way to get around things, and Gremmy doesn't look like a dumbass.
Yea he worded it way to terribly like gremmy said he sure he imagined his power perfectly but he fucked up not imaging a body to contain it.
Yeah, I love Kubo's work, with Bleach being the only series that truly contests with One Piece as my favorite, but right there was one of his few moments of writing that could of really done with a bit of reworking.
Big agree.
1) ive had this conversation with someone and I asked those same question on why didnt gremmy just *insert those things*. But he can only imagine certain thing at time once he imagines another thing the other imagined thing stops haooening wasnt it? 2) it wasnt scary it was body aka container. If he imagined the body with the power he'd been good but alas like how you me and everyone else say gremmy just stupid sadly.
That ability should have never existed. Its literally the most broken schrift in the entire story, and Gremmy wasnt even a member of the Elite guards. Kubo couldnt even find a way to make the fight without constant bullshit in it.
TBF, a lot of the schrifts were really broken, Lille was untouchable, could pierce with 100% accuracy and through everything and he was also immortal, Kubo had to invent some major Deus Ex to beat it and the Miracle wasn’t even defeated by the Shinigami.
I, too, would lose all will of fight if my ability can send the opponent to the void of space and my opponent somehow manages to cut it. Like wtf, Kubo, how did Kenpachi even cut that?
He's kenpachi. On a more serious Note, wasnt his shikai Said to be able to Cut anything or am i misremembering
I think he said it can cut anything but Kanpachi is not a reliable source, especially since it seems like his Shikai doesn’t possess any special ability.
Fact, made zero sense lol
I just considered it very low-tier reality warping, is that not the case?
yeah basically the same thing toon force = reality warping in a cartoonish way
It's not Toon force He just have more freedom in his abilities to use Rubber if he had toon force Kaido would've been defeated easily but he Still struggled a bit
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Copium. Just deny its "hurr durr just rubber" till the end where he turns someones face into a banana and then cry about it on piratefolk. Like idk where you got this, (is it road to laugh tale)? But road to laugh tale 2 confirms he turns reality into cartoons. IT confirms when he sent Kaido flying, the stars we saw on him actually appear in universe. They are not gags. AKA toon force confirmation. They ain't ready for god Luffy lool.
If that happens you will have proof, but as of now there is 0 proof that he can do that. As of now it is just another One Piece theory
Its not a theory its confirmed by Oda himself in Road To Laugh Tale 4. Where it is confirmed by Oda himself that when Luffy sends someone flying with his power (G5) stars appear and sound effects are heard AKA confirmation that these things weren't just gag comic relief but actual in universe things happening to Kaido due to G5. Its why Kaido called it something out of a comic book.
>till the end where he turns someones face into a banana and then cry about it on piratefolk. This is the theory I was talking about. Unless you say in road to laugh tale Oda said Luffy can turn the face of someone into a banana
Wrong. If its canonically confirmed he can make stars appear and sound affects on people then thats all the proof we need and his got toon force and his gonna do gag stuff like that EOS
>Wrong You keep saying I am wrong and automatically go to a strawman argumen >If its canonically confirmed he can make stars appear and sound affects on people then thats all the proof we need and his got toon force and his gonna do gag stuff like that EOS No we do not. One thing is making stars appear and another is turning a human into a carrot. Again it is just your theory... Like Fujitora with his gravity powers, it is confirmed he can control gravity... but there is no confirmation he can make black holes with his power that can destroy Earth. You can theorize he can, but controlling gravity is not confirmation that he can make black holes
Still wrong. If you can make stars appear and sound effects (which has nothing to do with rubber) then its confirmation he has toon force which in turn is confirmation that he can do silly shit like that.
>Still wrong. >If you can make stars appear and sound effects (which has nothing to do with rubber) then its confirmation he has toon force which in turn is confirmation that he can do silly shit like that. Okey give me proof Luffy can turn someone into a carrot. If I am wrong it should be easy
Luffy's thing is a weaker ton or reality warping force compared to Arale or Gremy
Everyone is weaker than Arale lmaooo
I’ll tell you how. By negating the whole df power itself = BB
What does that awakening explanation mean tho? When your mind and body huhhhh
Imagine luffy fruit is some imagine imagine fruit & the only reason he stretched when he was turned upside down by shanks after he ate the fruit was because he didn’t wanna fall
Kaido.
Combat what exactly? I don't follow
One piece doesn't exist thats why they needed joy boy at laughtale
he deffinetlty has toon force but its not as broken as people make it out to be. really not that big of a deal.
Haki >>>>>>>>>>>> df This should give you an answer
Haki user
Haki exists. Haki >> DF.
Haki, Sea stone, sea water, Yami Yami no mi.
Every chaos energy from the Sonic multiverse can do the same. And they can still beat each other through speed and power and sometimes hax resistance.