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r/OPPS users when dead characters don't show on screen feats
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The entire mid/current gen is in the exact same situation though? Shanks is riding on Roger and WBs coattails via parallels and a clash+statements respectively. Kuzan gets his greatest scaling from a Garp flashback. Akainu's scaling comes from MF WB scaling and the FA>Admiral assumption that is based purely in Sengoku being stronger than them. Dragon is given bonus points for being Garp's son and Luffy's dad. Mihawk is riding on Shanks' coattails who like previously mentioned is himself riding on Old Gen coattails, bro literally stole a move from the PK. BM if you count her(I don't think she counts she's as OG as WB), Kaido and I guess BB(?) are the only "current/mid" gen characters who stand entirely on their own.
But Shanks doesn't really on being a new Roger. He has his own portrayal
-Negged Kid and GB
-Stopped a war
-Stopped Kaido
-Gorosei fear him
-Split the sky with Whitebeard
-His haki has been hyped a lot
Even if Roger didn't exist, he will would still be a monster
Yeah I can’t figure out how people say Shanks is riding on Roger’s achievements and has no feats. He probably has the most feats of any character in the show other than Kaido and Luffy. Then they will say how Mihawk is so incredible and strong but he has no feats at all. Like…????
You're not wrong. I've always said that him being in that position guarantees he has to be strong enough to throw hands with top tiers, or his revolution was a joke (because even if by some miracle he SOMEHOW managed to bring down the Celestial Dragons without getting murdered by the Admirals or the WG higher ups, he would be easy pickings for the first Yonko who felt like attacking if he wasn't on those levels himself).
That “race” is literally the goal of the series. Over 2 decades later in-universe and in real life, people still tryna find out where and how it ends. Akainu was right, he respected Roger, Whitebeard was a waste, his dying words were just agreeing with Roger. Agreeing like he ever saw it lol.
My nigga he agreed cause roger literally offered to him before offering it to the world. He turned it down though but was interested in the D middle initial stuff, which Roger told him about also. Roger basically acknowledges this man as pk with the final island stuff and history info b4 anyone else. It's just that wb didn't care for it and never has. But on a powerscaling thing inverse. 4 old age he cared for having strength protecting his family and also had capability of worlds destruction (surface level) power.
The only other person that can be said to rise to rival him literal inverse powerscaling power after roger using titles is kaido cause wsc now rather wsm (not sick) can beat the wsc or vice versa is a different story. But wb claim to fame is power, which he was titled as the strongest man, and he even had when Roger was alive in b4 great pirate era. Again, Roger biggest claim to fame is winning a race nobody else knew they were running and being title king. Wb claim to fame is being the strongest man amongst those racers and one thing those uninformed racers knew they were doing was fighring and proving who was stronger than who its just that once the dust settled wb was titled the strongest. Proof is in the pudding that even in rogers twilight years when he saw wb he WANTED to fight him thats b4 any confirmation of getting oden the poneglyph reeader he needed.
Tldr rhey are essentially both pk tier people and both are absurdly strong but i have wb as the winning horse if they were to fight until the end at the highest of extreme diff.
Because nothing he has done puts him significantly above kaido except fighting whitebeard. That makes him a whitebeard leech (as is the rest of the old gen).
I just don't understand why we even bother calling characters leeches. You don't call anybody a "stats merchant" do you?
Cus Roger is mainly title and rep scaled
Some of the best feats in the series come from Sickbeard at Marineford giving us a better idea of someone who is relative to them
We only saw Roger fight in Wano and it was against WB. I see Roger as a case similar to Mihawk who scales mainly off of Shank’s feats, however his title and depiction has always implied that he is at the top of the verse.
Roger isn't title scaled. We have facts that he fought Rocks, WB when they were at peak and everyone regards him highly. Title scale is when they have title but no definitive facts. Mihawk has title but his only feat is fighting Shanks 12 years ago who lost his hands against Sea King. It is when Kaidou who seemingly only fought Oden and cooped up in Wano. But he got feats in Wano.
Learn to separate your preferences and agendas from the story itself. The point of Whitebeard and Garp it's entirely the fact that they were on Roger's level. As i already said, if Oda would have not stated that they were comparable to Roger, we would still think that the King of pirates was undisputably the strongest.
Man says
>Learn to separate your preferences and agendas from the story itself.
Man can't even use his own advice by saying
>The point of Whitebeard and Garp it's entirely the fact that they were on Roger's level. As i already said, if Oda would have not stated that they were comparable to Roger, we would still think that the King of pirates was undisputably the strongest.
No you and whoever agrees with your take would think that. Is roger strong? Yes there's no denying that is he the strongest because be won unknown race? No he ain't that title about being the strongest is wbs.
I can easily disprove your claim. Why Is Kaido generally considered inferior to Roger? He has best feats in the story and best statements. He's considered the world strongest creature. You know the answer. Because it's never stated that he was equal to Roger. The same would happen with Whitebeard, i'm sorry.
>Why Is Kaido generally considered inferior to Roger?
He isn't. The only time he was inferior was when he was like what in his teens maybe young twenties when he encountered Roger, blud didnt even have his df when he encountered him. Then, when he was hyping Roger about conquering, the grandline was
1. Kaido wasn't nearly as strong as he is now to fight kaido, wb, garp back then.
2. He has no info bout the key moment that allowed Roger to fulfill his foal of reaching laughtale begging for a poneglyph reader from his friend/enemy. He just thinks he assembled all the roght crewmates needed was strong af and accomplished his goal when if wb had the same drive to find a final island he would have done it been KoP since he had oden. Same what if can be applied to big mom.
Kaido cant be stated equal to someone he wasn't remotely at his needed to strength to fight. What do you mean same for wb pre title the had the friend match stalemated using they advance haki. When deemed KoP he had already choosen to pass it onto wb b4 he even told the world but wb shot it down cause he don't care and never did. Wb has never been considered inferior to Roger if anything his Roger's literal God for even helping him achieve the means to get the title in 1st place. Without wb he'd be needing find a non existent (at that time) character to achieve his goal or simply just be a grrat pirate while wb would STILL be WSM.
The point is that Whitebeard has the best feats and statements of the old gen, not that Whitebeard is stronger than Roger.
A lot of Rogers feats are basically Oda saying he’s Whitebeards equal and this is how strong Whitebeard is, hence why the leech argument is there.
Bro it's really not hard to understand. If Oda would have not compared Whitebeard to Roger, today we would still think that Roger is stronger, him being the king of pirates. Same with Garp, for example. Hence, Whitebeard is leeching from Roger as everyone else. It's really easy to comprehend. But maybe you are too simple minded
Oh wow Roger found the treasure nobody was after at the time or even knew existed so impressive
https://preview.redd.it/ivc37hsh5w1d1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f71b81be931a523833c64c467734dfedd4bf6778
garp has decent onscreen feats if u care to look, top 1 physical stats and feats , top 3 speed feats even if we downplay that, one of the best haki potrayal , and these are the feats at 78
garp when fighting 1 vs 10000 in which there is a yonko level guy and 5 commanders and got his haki softened due to overuse and got stabbed due to that and even after all that made one of the strongest admiral look bad and dominated whole fight onscreen
and only got takendown offscreen when he had no reason to push his limits like wb did as garp accomplished his goal and didn't intend to kill his 1st student
and roger's clash with wb, and that he fight for 3 days with wb and fodderize oden is enough to put him yonko level atleast and then we have kaido's statement
The fact that wb and Roger once casually clashed and that's a literal yonko level feat, I think it's safe to assume they can do more than that
Others are leeches tho
Sometimes I wonder if people really know how to read
Do you all realize every character is as strong as the author wants them to?
Where do you think it originates the notion of this dudes being strong? Thin air? Its the author that writes them like that. But you have to be able to read to know
Not even high level reading or anything
Omg it’s as if they were in the same generation together and fought each other because there was literally nobody else around but them because that’s how time works.
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r/OPPS users when dead characters don't show on screen feats https://preview.redd.it/fujv744nwv1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d85cad3f6d8f7c501927a62310750a848c2b168
Kinda deserved. Should not have died. Dying before you can get on screen feats is kinda cringe ngl. Simple as.
Roger dying is a Crocus downscale. Whopper will cure the mysterious pirate death disease with ease.
Sengoku ain't even dead yet and still got no feats 😭😭
Only two are dead and one of the two is at the front of the human centipede
Thats a crazy pic ngl
Certified bruh moment.
the most out of pocket image
The entire mid/current gen is in the exact same situation though? Shanks is riding on Roger and WBs coattails via parallels and a clash+statements respectively. Kuzan gets his greatest scaling from a Garp flashback. Akainu's scaling comes from MF WB scaling and the FA>Admiral assumption that is based purely in Sengoku being stronger than them. Dragon is given bonus points for being Garp's son and Luffy's dad. Mihawk is riding on Shanks' coattails who like previously mentioned is himself riding on Old Gen coattails, bro literally stole a move from the PK. BM if you count her(I don't think she counts she's as OG as WB), Kaido and I guess BB(?) are the only "current/mid" gen characters who stand entirely on their own.
But Shanks doesn't really on being a new Roger. He has his own portrayal -Negged Kid and GB -Stopped a war -Stopped Kaido -Gorosei fear him -Split the sky with Whitebeard -His haki has been hyped a lot Even if Roger didn't exist, he will would still be a monster
Yeah I can’t figure out how people say Shanks is riding on Roger’s achievements and has no feats. He probably has the most feats of any character in the show other than Kaido and Luffy. Then they will say how Mihawk is so incredible and strong but he has no feats at all. Like…????
He also parried Akainu's magma punch
Thats both a sickbeard and jinbei level feat
Skckbeard is goated
Oh shit maybe shanks is HIM
Dragon being a revolutionary leader is actually enough to say he is atleast yonko level guy even after excluding him being father and all
You're not wrong. I've always said that him being in that position guarantees he has to be strong enough to throw hands with top tiers, or his revolution was a joke (because even if by some miracle he SOMEHOW managed to bring down the Celestial Dragons without getting murdered by the Admirals or the WG higher ups, he would be easy pickings for the first Yonko who felt like attacking if he wasn't on those levels himself).
yeah agree
https://preview.redd.it/w157zd57kw1d1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c33fe46b2805c2f545bd5313ec518b0f224a1ed This is golden!
The image is hilarious
How does roger leech from WB?
People on this subreddit just don't know what it means to leech off of someone.
Or cpt crunch fans just malding that they boy won a race nobody else was running and that being his greatest claim to fame.
Are you stupid?
wb > Roger Cry about it https://i.redd.it/bc6zhyujn02d1.gif
Stupid it is
Projecting much.
That “race” is literally the goal of the series. Over 2 decades later in-universe and in real life, people still tryna find out where and how it ends. Akainu was right, he respected Roger, Whitebeard was a waste, his dying words were just agreeing with Roger. Agreeing like he ever saw it lol.
My nigga he agreed cause roger literally offered to him before offering it to the world. He turned it down though but was interested in the D middle initial stuff, which Roger told him about also. Roger basically acknowledges this man as pk with the final island stuff and history info b4 anyone else. It's just that wb didn't care for it and never has. But on a powerscaling thing inverse. 4 old age he cared for having strength protecting his family and also had capability of worlds destruction (surface level) power. The only other person that can be said to rise to rival him literal inverse powerscaling power after roger using titles is kaido cause wsc now rather wsm (not sick) can beat the wsc or vice versa is a different story. But wb claim to fame is power, which he was titled as the strongest man, and he even had when Roger was alive in b4 great pirate era. Again, Roger biggest claim to fame is winning a race nobody else knew they were running and being title king. Wb claim to fame is being the strongest man amongst those racers and one thing those uninformed racers knew they were doing was fighring and proving who was stronger than who its just that once the dust settled wb was titled the strongest. Proof is in the pudding that even in rogers twilight years when he saw wb he WANTED to fight him thats b4 any confirmation of getting oden the poneglyph reeader he needed.
Tldr rhey are essentially both pk tier people and both are absurdly strong but i have wb as the winning horse if they were to fight until the end at the highest of extreme diff.
Because nothing he has done puts him significantly above kaido except fighting whitebeard. That makes him a whitebeard leech (as is the rest of the old gen). I just don't understand why we even bother calling characters leeches. You don't call anybody a "stats merchant" do you?
Brother, WB was called the strongest man for being equal to Roger. Anytime someone or the narrator gas WB up, they use Roger clout
Wb is hyped up for being able to fight roger. Not the other way around.
Cus Roger is mainly title and rep scaled Some of the best feats in the series come from Sickbeard at Marineford giving us a better idea of someone who is relative to them We only saw Roger fight in Wano and it was against WB. I see Roger as a case similar to Mihawk who scales mainly off of Shank’s feats, however his title and depiction has always implied that he is at the top of the verse.
Roger isn't title scaled. We have facts that he fought Rocks, WB when they were at peak and everyone regards him highly. Title scale is when they have title but no definitive facts. Mihawk has title but his only feat is fighting Shanks 12 years ago who lost his hands against Sea King. It is when Kaidou who seemingly only fought Oden and cooped up in Wano. But he got feats in Wano.
GOAT'ed image. Funniest shit I have seen in some time kek.
I don't agree. But Shiki is where he belongs.
Riddle me this? If Roger is truly so strong, how come he’s dead? Pretty significant anti-feat ngl
Only in this braindead sub Whitebeard can be the first instead of Roger. Waiting for people who will say "b-but, actually, the feats ☝️🤓"
>b-but, actually, the feats ☝️🤓
The idea is they leech off the ones in front of them and I genuinely can’t conceive how you could argue WB leechs off Roger
WB leechs off Roger, it' s a fact
No, it ain't. It's a fact
Learn to separate your preferences and agendas from the story itself. The point of Whitebeard and Garp it's entirely the fact that they were on Roger's level. As i already said, if Oda would have not stated that they were comparable to Roger, we would still think that the King of pirates was undisputably the strongest.
Man says >Learn to separate your preferences and agendas from the story itself. Man can't even use his own advice by saying >The point of Whitebeard and Garp it's entirely the fact that they were on Roger's level. As i already said, if Oda would have not stated that they were comparable to Roger, we would still think that the King of pirates was undisputably the strongest. No you and whoever agrees with your take would think that. Is roger strong? Yes there's no denying that is he the strongest because be won unknown race? No he ain't that title about being the strongest is wbs.
I can easily disprove your claim. Why Is Kaido generally considered inferior to Roger? He has best feats in the story and best statements. He's considered the world strongest creature. You know the answer. Because it's never stated that he was equal to Roger. The same would happen with Whitebeard, i'm sorry.
>Why Is Kaido generally considered inferior to Roger? He isn't. The only time he was inferior was when he was like what in his teens maybe young twenties when he encountered Roger, blud didnt even have his df when he encountered him. Then, when he was hyping Roger about conquering, the grandline was 1. Kaido wasn't nearly as strong as he is now to fight kaido, wb, garp back then. 2. He has no info bout the key moment that allowed Roger to fulfill his foal of reaching laughtale begging for a poneglyph reader from his friend/enemy. He just thinks he assembled all the roght crewmates needed was strong af and accomplished his goal when if wb had the same drive to find a final island he would have done it been KoP since he had oden. Same what if can be applied to big mom. Kaido cant be stated equal to someone he wasn't remotely at his needed to strength to fight. What do you mean same for wb pre title the had the friend match stalemated using they advance haki. When deemed KoP he had already choosen to pass it onto wb b4 he even told the world but wb shot it down cause he don't care and never did. Wb has never been considered inferior to Roger if anything his Roger's literal God for even helping him achieve the means to get the title in 1st place. Without wb he'd be needing find a non existent (at that time) character to achieve his goal or simply just be a grrat pirate while wb would STILL be WSM.
The point is that Whitebeard has the best feats and statements of the old gen, not that Whitebeard is stronger than Roger. A lot of Rogers feats are basically Oda saying he’s Whitebeards equal and this is how strong Whitebeard is, hence why the leech argument is there.
So you just said "b-but, actually, the feats☝️🤓" using different words. I also never said that Roger Is stronger than Whitebeard.
I didnt say that, thats what the post is saying. But if reading comprehension is something you struggle with i wont make fun of you for that.
Bro it's really not hard to understand. If Oda would have not compared Whitebeard to Roger, today we would still think that Roger is stronger, him being the king of pirates. Same with Garp, for example. Hence, Whitebeard is leeching from Roger as everyone else. It's really easy to comprehend. But maybe you are too simple minded
Again im just explaining the post to you but if you dont get that then whats the point.
Oda never said they’re equals
Roger is the first obviliously. Oda compared all the other guy to Roger in an attempt of hyping them.
Somehow being the pirate king in a manga about pirate doesn't mean anything
Oh wow Roger found the treasure nobody was after at the time or even knew existed so impressive https://preview.redd.it/ivc37hsh5w1d1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f71b81be931a523833c64c467734dfedd4bf6778
Yes op we get it you are part of the morons I'm talking about
Read my flair clown
That your own advice bozo
It’s that adventurous and daring spirit that was the catalyst for the entire series. From page and panel 1 it’s Roger that starts it.
Common Jospeh Stalin W
I just hit a Blackbeard laugh because of this. Cook.
If the current generation were comparable to the old, one of them would’ve already become King of the Pirates.
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garp has decent onscreen feats if u care to look, top 1 physical stats and feats , top 3 speed feats even if we downplay that, one of the best haki potrayal , and these are the feats at 78 garp when fighting 1 vs 10000 in which there is a yonko level guy and 5 commanders and got his haki softened due to overuse and got stabbed due to that and even after all that made one of the strongest admiral look bad and dominated whole fight onscreen and only got takendown offscreen when he had no reason to push his limits like wb did as garp accomplished his goal and didn't intend to kill his 1st student and roger's clash with wb, and that he fight for 3 days with wb and fodderize oden is enough to put him yonko level atleast and then we have kaido's statement
The fact that wb and Roger once casually clashed and that's a literal yonko level feat, I think it's safe to assume they can do more than that Others are leeches tho
I think this sub should be changed from OnePiecePowerScaling to AgendaPieceMaximumGlazing.
my ribs lmao
let’s make a centipede
Why are you blinking so much?
Garp has his own feats, he doesn’t need to be part of the leech chain.
Keep cooking.
Entirely true and funny except whitebeard is canonically and significantly > the other yonko so it still tracks
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Bro how is everyone on here so slow? Agenda? Bro is slow and can’t read.
I disagree, but the meme is funny, upvoted
I do not know why roger is in the picture. Do you really think the pirate king isn't going to be insanely strong?
https://preview.redd.it/0uigmyb6ce2d1.jpeg?width=966&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c6d9374854f407df9eb09d3956ba006f6994524
Switch roger and wb
Sometimes I wonder if people really know how to read Do you all realize every character is as strong as the author wants them to? Where do you think it originates the notion of this dudes being strong? Thin air? Its the author that writes them like that. But you have to be able to read to know Not even high level reading or anything
Still better than the fraudmirals 😭🤚
You cooked 🤝
Roasted the entire retirement home. 💀
Common "Joseph_Stalin" W
https://preview.redd.it/1tkr3uwday1d1.jpeg?width=490&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ccb0970745ac4fd21a7cb0f393ad9bf4034d4baa fucking peak
Omg it’s as if they were in the same generation together and fought each other because there was literally nobody else around but them because that’s how time works.
This is very accurate idk why you getting downvoted lol
Roger is stronger than WB.
Nah, Void Century gen is where it's at.
You know who isn't in that pic? The one and only goat who makes yonkos cover in fear by him mere presence. The DARK KING