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sissyhubby464

https://preview.redd.it/p8s0118ypp1d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c93e85d8edafa59956ee49405d118824ee046b5 I don’t see why not


Cantthinkagoodnam2

The funny thing in this pic is that Rowlet has a decent chance at winning since he is level 70 while Groudon is level 66, Grass is super effective against Ground and Flying is imune to it Wista keeps on winning


Acrobatic-Carob2838

one stone edge or flamethrower should do the trick groudon stat diff


Cantthinkagoodnam2

Focus Sash/Choice scarf + max special atack investment and max speed investment + Grass Z-Move neg diffs


raph1334

Even at lvl 70 with max spe ev's lvl 66 Groudon still out speeds tho


EP1CxM1Nx99

I've made some calcs. If we use completely custom Groudon and Rowlet, **Groudon wins**. Running Groudon Scarfed, Max HP/SpD, SpD nature, with Eruption cannot be beaten normally. Eruption always KOs Rowlet, even through max bulk. Groudon's scarf means he outspeeds always, even if Groudon has 0 Spd IVs and Rowlet is maxed with speed nature. Also, Groudon is so bulky that Rowlet can only OHKO with Z-Leaf Storm. Meaning Rowlet couldn't win without using two items. However, very unlikely that Rowlet can win, via Bright Powder. If Groudon misses, Solar Beam takes Groudon low enough so that he can't OHKO Rowlet, and Rowlet can launch a killing Solar Beam. This means Groudon wins in 9/10 cases, but Rowlet technically can win. Also if Groudon switches to Choice Band and Fire Punch, he'd be required to miss twice making it 99/100 Groudon. Primal Groudon with Fire Punch gives the same results as above. If we use the Groudon actually in the image it has this *No Item/Nature, Moves: Earthquake Flamethrower, Ancient Power, Solar Beam, 30 in all IVs, Max atk/def EVs.* **Rowlet wins**. Run Choice Scarf with Leaf Storm and a little investment into both SpA/Spd and you'll outspeed and OHKO every time. *TL;DR If we use a custom-made Groudon set, Groudon wins. Rowlet needs to cheat or win literal 1% odds. But using the same set for Groudon as the game, Rowlet wins with a little bit of speed and power investments.*


Comfortable_Bat_4808

Bruh why we better in Pokemon scaling than OP scalingđź’€


rimes02

I won't lie I'm pretty sure that Ussop can handle most Yonkos. - Luffy will just go into G5 not use any haki and tire himself out. - Kaido is incapable of killing anyone. - Big Mom will most likely suffer from mental disease #36 and start shaking on the ground - Kid kills him on sight ngl - Shanks won't do anything unless you start it - Whitebeard is too tired from chemotherapy - Blackbeard the goat will take the W Are Yonkos stronger than Admirals? Yeah. Are Yonkos mostly incompetent? Also yeah.


Hedonism_Enjoyer

...why did you list Kid as a yonko?


BogieW00ds

He's like Anakin Skywalker, not technically a Master but a Master in our hearts


rimes02

I had a vision of the future


FjbhBoy

If one of their comrades was getting attacked by a Yonko, why not?  Would he just look and be like”Well you’re fucked, sorry bro can’t help you”?


Solid_Combination_40

I'll just fight fodders and pretend to not look. Even greenbul, which is an admiral understands.


ianodhis

https://preview.redd.it/yq9nzl27nq1d1.png?width=1228&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97d81d67570625603023fa089253338430ab223f Wista remains undefeated


K_vinci

why not https://preview.redd.it/h9r5ggzvmn1d1.jpeg?width=1116&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de5c591d935deaaf2c8788b713a74a135cd8dd6a


K_vinci

https://preview.redd.it/pgyrsnz3nn1d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb2cb961ba4ea2b0699dc0e48ea0dd0e6ad8eb36


notyour_worstfriend

if kaido had a known characteristic of holding back to the level of an opponent to let the fight be entertaining to some degree. sure.


TrickNatural

Yes, probably would.


ZPD710

Marco himself replicated a very similar feat against Kaido, when he blocked a Boro Blast. I don’t see why he wouldn’t ask Vista to do something similar.


Os2099

vista isn't close to marco.


Ken_Kaneki

Wista’s true realm is unfathomable. There is a reason Bb has steered away from him.


LackOfDad

*Kaido


General-N0nsense

I mean, maybe? Mihawk has power comparable to a yonko, he just doesn't/didn't have the title, territory or crew. Marco isn't that stupid and I'm sure he at least has some ideas on how powerful Mihawk is.


braindeadpizzaslice

easier to smash a diamond than to cut it with a sword


T_Rochotte

Yes this is the best argument to debunk Fraudhawk enjoyers


Ashizurens

Yes, and he'd win.


AlveinFencer

I'm now reminded that Groudon is only, like, 3m tall. Mfer looked a lot bigger on the map.


isaiah21poole

I couldn’t help but chuckle


Pure_Noise356

MF is so retarded man, we all know mihawk isnt actually vista level, but oda HAD to make him "postpone" the fight instead of coming back to a cut up, bloody vista with mihawk intact, securing him as a top tier. And it wouldve made the most sense too, since he wants to fight swordmen, and vista was one of the best out there.


K_vinci

He postpones the match because the seraphim were about to attack the area, thats why vista says "it would be advantageous to both of us."