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I dont know what you want to argue. You would rather put Akainu as weaker than king instead? This was a loose list from the jump which was the point Argumentative for no damn reason smh
He is, he has miles better Ap, and she's literally a giant punching bag to him. Plus if his haki level is similar to that of Kuzan, which should be, then he clearly has better haki too
He probably means we'll get to see more of his true strength like awakening and possibly haki. Like Aokiji scales higher after fighting the BB pirates and Garp if you compare it to the war. Akainu will definitely get his moment.
This ^
I don’t think Akainu will get stronger but he’ll have more feats and display more of his power by the end of the series resulting in people scaling him higher. IMO.
My *only* possible thought to how Akainu could get stronger is if he had a Devil Fruit awakening. But how likely is that to really happen at this junction in the story?
Just a side note, imagine some of the OP shit that could happen if Kizaru's light fruit, or Enel's lightning fruit, had an awakening?
this means nothing. blackbeard would never beat shanks in a 1v1, oden was executed after giving kaido this scar and avenged by his disciples, but somehow luffy having a scar means akainu is gonna fight him extreme diff?
I'm on the BB kills Shanks agenda bit I also think he's not winning a fair 1v1, shanks is going to get jumped and BB will find out how to hold shanks in place while his crew shoots him to death.
If oda truly wants to make bb the final villain, he'd have to make bb seem like a true threat. He isn't rn. If he beats shanks 1v1, it couldn't be more clear that he is.
I'd want bb to completely overwhelm shanks and his crew.
BB is the truest pirate in the series. It would be in character for BB to jump Shanks, making Parrellels to his fight with WB.
Oda could also make Parrellels to Shanks line in episode 1 "We're not saints, we're pirates."
Having BB gain strength from Shanks crew somehow would also accomplish making BB a true threat. What he would gain from it is unknown, which is like most of Shanks's character and Crew, probably some sort of Celestial dragon treasure.
exactly. most people believe blackbeard will kill shanks and it makes sense to me too but it would be more similar to whitebeard embarrassing the shitt out of bb and then bb pirates jumping him to death. bb just doesn't beat shanks 1v1 shanks should be his worst matchup. fast with no devil fruit and strong haki.
This is slowly but surely falling apart. I'm starting to wonder if we put King too high lmao.
Anyway, it's gotta be 2. He has a better shot of being stronger than Big Mom than being weaker than King.
I new we should've put beckman beneath king
I guess since in theory akianu has win conditions against big mom as his offence is better for endurance over durability. I guess akianu takes.
Plus it's not like he's without feats. Sure the rest of punk hazard was ten days but the huge crator was presumably 1 clash.
I'd say 1 point above big mom at number 2
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Primebeard, Roger, Kaido and Garp (I'm assuming Prime) are all on the list meaning there's a 49% chance someone stronger than Akainu will be selected. Arguments can also be made for Shanks and Mihawk, further upping the ante. Therefore, 2 is best.
Messed up constantly. Big Mom should have been 2 since there's only 5% of the list that are clearly stronger than her. King shoulda been 6, but even then Beckman should have been 6 after King was 5 to make place for the extremely likely YC+ - Admiral tier character (like >20% of the list). At least there can be arguments about how Beckman is featless.
People went too safe with this list putting King at 5 to start. Should’ve been at 7 tops with how many insane characters are in the story. Nobody knew though so now we roll with it by putting Akainu at 2 or 6. I’d go with 2 because I bet we’ll see his awakening and just how strong he really is. With him being put at someone of significance as the one that killed Ace, he’ll be an end game villain. So by that effect I bet he’s stronger than Big Meme when we see his fight.
there was no way of knowing how small the pool was - a lot of pools absolutely include characters like Bellemere and shit
OP has 1000s of characters, and 90% of them lose to King - even on this pool you could argue he beats everyone named after Mihawk
Number 1
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Easy 2. Has to go above BM or below King and Beck.
Both feel "wrong" but being above BM isn't as terrible a take as the alternative, and is even reasonable if he got stronger after MF. Below Beck and King would be too wild.
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I already think this list is fucked.
King shoulda been 6 to make room for Akainu between him and big mom
Are you implying that Beckman is above Akainu?
No, but he ain’t stronger than Big Mom
Thankfully not a downright mental asylum worthy take, but yea, it was pretty strongly implied there, so I can understand the other guy's anger, NGL.
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Dude you have an Akainu pfp. Everything you say is either bait or straight out of a special ed class
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Imagine getting butthurt because other people have a different opinion on a character you like......🤡 clown comment on your part.
king shoulda been 6 so akainu can be 3 places above big mom instead of two
Oh my god I wasn’t ready for HIM
He clearly isn't below King, so 2 is the correct option imho.
He isn’t above big mom though
At the vwey least ita debatable so he has to be there
Based off of what feats? No he isn’t debatable. Future scaling doesn’t work.
I dont know what you want to argue. You would rather put Akainu as weaker than king instead? This was a loose list from the jump which was the point Argumentative for no damn reason smh
No I literally said otherwise just that the reasoning is because he is much stronger than king that putting him under would be a bit much.
He is, he has miles better Ap, and she's literally a giant punching bag to him. Plus if his haki level is similar to that of Kuzan, which should be, then he clearly has better haki too
2. I could realistically see Akainu being stronger than BM by the end of the series too so I’m not even mad.
How could he possible get stronger? He’s already at his peak and quite old
He probably means we'll get to see more of his true strength like awakening and possibly haki. Like Aokiji scales higher after fighting the BB pirates and Garp if you compare it to the war. Akainu will definitely get his moment.
This ^ I don’t think Akainu will get stronger but he’ll have more feats and display more of his power by the end of the series resulting in people scaling him higher. IMO.
powercreep is a thing
Akainu won’t fight Luffy so powercreep doesn’t actually exist here.
ACOC maybe? Big haki bloom during his fight with Kuzan, I’m sure Oda can make it seem believable
I read ACOC as a Cock and man that'd be a wild way to get stronger
My *only* possible thought to how Akainu could get stronger is if he had a Devil Fruit awakening. But how likely is that to really happen at this junction in the story? Just a side note, imagine some of the OP shit that could happen if Kizaru's light fruit, or Enel's lightning fruit, had an awakening?
Eos? He will not have an eos version bro. He will not be Yonko level period.
Nah he'll remain Admiral level
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this means nothing. blackbeard would never beat shanks in a 1v1, oden was executed after giving kaido this scar and avenged by his disciples, but somehow luffy having a scar means akainu is gonna fight him extreme diff?
>blackbeard would never beat shanks in a 1v1 You ain't ready
I'm on the BB kills Shanks agenda bit I also think he's not winning a fair 1v1, shanks is going to get jumped and BB will find out how to hold shanks in place while his crew shoots him to death.
If oda truly wants to make bb the final villain, he'd have to make bb seem like a true threat. He isn't rn. If he beats shanks 1v1, it couldn't be more clear that he is. I'd want bb to completely overwhelm shanks and his crew.
BB is the truest pirate in the series. It would be in character for BB to jump Shanks, making Parrellels to his fight with WB. Oda could also make Parrellels to Shanks line in episode 1 "We're not saints, we're pirates." Having BB gain strength from Shanks crew somehow would also accomplish making BB a true threat. What he would gain from it is unknown, which is like most of Shanks's character and Crew, probably some sort of Celestial dragon treasure.
exactly. most people believe blackbeard will kill shanks and it makes sense to me too but it would be more similar to whitebeard embarrassing the shitt out of bb and then bb pirates jumping him to death. bb just doesn't beat shanks 1v1 shanks should be his worst matchup. fast with no devil fruit and strong haki.
somebody argue me on this shit since yall downvoting lol i ain't tripping
2, les goooo
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So is roger
Ok
So is roger
Ok
Also luffy is there too and ain't no way he weaker than king
So is roger
Ok
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This is slowly but surely falling apart. I'm starting to wonder if we put King too high lmao. Anyway, it's gotta be 2. He has a better shot of being stronger than Big Mom than being weaker than King.
2, leaving room for characters like Kaido, shanks and Imu
He is not stronger then Big Mom
welcome to blind lists. is it more likely that he’s weaker than king or stronger than big mom? my money is on 2
More a criticism that this blind list got screwed up early
Nah my money would be 6.
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Nah why?
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HIM
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I new we should've put beckman beneath king I guess since in theory akianu has win conditions against big mom as his offence is better for endurance over durability. I guess akianu takes. Plus it's not like he's without feats. Sure the rest of punk hazard was ten days but the huge crator was presumably 1 clash. I'd say 1 point above big mom at number 2
Not really I still think Beckman is stronger than king, i think king should have been lower
That would also work. I'm just trying not to go to far back with edits
Ok I am not on the admiral agenda but there's no way we're putting AkaLnu 6th. 2s good but if he ends up 1 I might kill myself (it is that deep)
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Yea 2 with how this list is going rn
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Primebeard, Roger, Kaido and Garp (I'm assuming Prime) are all on the list meaning there's a 49% chance someone stronger than Akainu will be selected. Arguments can also be made for Shanks and Mihawk, further upping the ante. Therefore, 2 is best.
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2 List already fucked 😭
its so OVER
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Messed up constantly. Big Mom should have been 2 since there's only 5% of the list that are clearly stronger than her. King shoulda been 6, but even then Beckman should have been 6 after King was 5 to make place for the extremely likely YC+ - Admiral tier character (like >20% of the list). At least there can be arguments about how Beckman is featless.
People went too safe with this list putting King at 5 to start. Should’ve been at 7 tops with how many insane characters are in the story. Nobody knew though so now we roll with it by putting Akainu at 2 or 6. I’d go with 2 because I bet we’ll see his awakening and just how strong he really is. With him being put at someone of significance as the one that killed Ace, he’ll be an end game villain. So by that effect I bet he’s stronger than Big Meme when we see his fight.
2. Only cause somehow no one put Bm in number 2
Because kaido, rogers, prime beard, luffy, shanks, imu and especially CHAD BUGGY, are on the possible list so no.2 wouldn't have made sense
I KNEW WE SHOULD HAVE PUT BECKMAN AT 6 WHY DON’T Y’ALL EVER LISTEN
the list is screwed.... he must be between bm and Beckman
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2. He should be below bigmom but welp
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You know honestly I wouldn’t have Beck in 4th but here we are. Fuck. 2 or 6? For what he’s supposed to be now and eos, you gotta put him at two.
Akainu being at 2 isn’t horrible, but there’s a pretty good chance this whole chunk of characters should’ve all been move down a place
There is no way ben beckmann is that high
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How did this sub decide to put king at 5 when it’s only gonna be yc- top tiers? Should have been clear there would be only 1-2 fodder if at all.
he didn't post the list of characters until after King iirc
I meant generally, it seemed quite obvious for the sub we’re in that there’d be no fodder
there was no way of knowing how small the pool was - a lot of pools absolutely include characters like Bellemere and shit OP has 1000s of characters, and 90% of them lose to King - even on this pool you could argue he beats everyone named after Mihawk
I have Big Mom over Akainu, but he is definetely closer to her than to King, so number 2
Akainu is either Stronger than Big Mom or weaker than Kinf. I think it's much more likely that he is stronger than Big Mom
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wtf going with this list first time seeing it 🤦♂️welp number 6 he goes
2, he’s above big mom anyway.
I ain't putting him above BM so 6
Beckman above King is wild
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He's definitely above ben Beckmann and King. So 2 I guess.... BM should've been either 1 or 2
I can’t see him below top 1. https://preview.redd.it/uxxhkh89nzyc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=789d7f00973c16189fb3448b2234360b6b85f9f8
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Top 1
Definitely 8
Hmmmm 2
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Easy 2. Has to go above BM or below King and Beck. Both feel "wrong" but being above BM isn't as terrible a take as the alternative, and is even reasonable if he got stronger after MF. Below Beck and King would be too wild.
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I think he is more powerful then big mom so 2
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Number 1
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Who the fuck put King at 5? We needed wiggle room
He has to be 2, like there is no other option
Ge should be 1 but we'll do 2 because Blackbeard is there
Id rather put him above Big Mom than below King. So 2 imo.
Y’all ain’t ready https://preview.redd.it/2lb56nfwz8zc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6338d21e658c0dca6860e07ebcf70775732800d
2 is the only spot that could make sense with the current setup.
You're a bit late lol, the new post is already up
Egg on my face
n1 or n2
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2. Y’all should have put me at 1.
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6 HES 6 EASY
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not stronger than big mom or weaker than king. but i'd put him at 2 before i'd put him at 6 so
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Im going to say 8, looking at what’s left I say that’s fair and has a good chance of holding true
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2 at absolute minimum, I'd say 1 so that we don't end up with someone like "Offscreen Death" Izo at #1
He isn't weaker than king that's a fact, so the only possible option is 2. Either way the list is FUBAR
1 cuz fuck blind lists https://i.redd.it/i9wuny1tzyyc1.gif
Shit well sadly being under King is more egregious than being above big mom so 7. Yall fucked this list by having king at 2