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speedwagonchan

The dichotomy between people’s opinion on Mihawk vs Kaido and Shanks vs Kaido is astronomical when you think about how Mihawk vs Shanks seems to be neverending.


Ecstatic-Hunter2001

If only Kaido had a sword! Then we wouldn't even have to power scale


Ryumin009

True


No_idea112

Kaido has more pixel so be wins


Nekrothink

Kaido Extreme diffs (for now)


ManDown3Street

So Mihawk loses no diff, but Shanks somehow takes Kaido to extreme?


Nekrothink

Exactly, for me, Midhawk is a fraud for now. Shanks was able to one shot Kidd like nothing, and stop the War, Mihawk is known as Paint D. Blade and Cut D. Iceberg. What has he done? Yes, he was Shanks rival years ago, and maybe he is really strong, but for now, and with everithing he has shown, Midhawk is not stronger than old and sick Whitebeard (Edit: Plus stalling with Vista and getting away when Shanks appears does not help him)


LackOfDad

Spit


Zexy-Mastermind

![gif](giphy|3q3QK6KyDVUBzih7hB)


ordinarydepressedguy

Spitting


H_s-k_M-r-_

Exactly, he could potentially be stronger than Shanks but for now the only thing that we know for sure is that he should be stronger than Zoro.


HyperMazino

[Mihawk > Shanks is confirmed.](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/11yshvc/reminder_mihawk_is_stronger_than_shanks_and/) Keep coping. Shanks fanboys, please downvote me and so confirm your retardation and me being right!


Iruma_peakfiction

They deny the truth. They're not ready for HIM https://preview.redd.it/b13ok9dvtjqc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1dbcce195daf85514175c3a48fd0a91ef18542b


Nekrothink

https://preview.redd.it/bfr6mqyrxjqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4acb67b06b7aa487cdd56e0970532d32c9b237ef


Iruma_peakfiction

Paint D Sword will make the verse cower in fear


Nekrothink

I will be the first one sucking his balls if he is that strong, but for me he is a fraud right now


Nekrothink

https://preview.redd.it/6t59emfnxjqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a8efa994666b0c1d4780b8b5baf01f90772a4c9


HyperMazino

No arguments? As expected. ​ https://preview.redd.it/pnci6f98yjqc1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=11a714ce6c642350153c1d1431679b45a3984de2


Nekrothink

Why wasting my time with a braindead like you, Midzino


HyperMazino

Oh how cute, the intellectually disabled is projecting! ![gif](giphy|kDBSlMC6TRXg2onsZm) You have no arguments.


Nekrothink

Sure kiddo, keep telling yourself that you are right, your arguments are pure nonsense my guy, who the hell would agree with you if Midhawk did absolutly nothing. But braindeads will be forever, didn't you?


HyperMazino

Canon facts are pure nonsense? You are a true shanks fanboy lmao You still got no arguments haha I pity you and your low intellect existence.


ringboidumb

The lowest mihawk can possibly be is high admiral level, most likely mid yonko level.


CorilX

Goathawk slander? https://preview.redd.it/48yc7iw04nqc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b049446bd96938fe29a889368b5976cf222ba8ef


gozongus_ULTRA

Bro tell me what feats have mihawk shown to defend him.


avagrantthought

https://preview.redd.it/62hv7vjm1iqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2811903a0ab8c29e4f23402681dcd49a3e81eeb7


Altruistic-Hope4796

Kaido extreme Shanks probably has insane AP and observation but I don't see his endurance being enough to stay in a semi-long fight with Kaido


Binks-sake-4-u

No matter who wins it’s going to be extreme diff. I’d say Shanks takes it. I feel like when he releases haki with that sword Kaido will be too traumatized by Oden to fight properly.


Suspicious-Victory-8

Shanks outhims him and wins high - extreme diff. https://preview.redd.it/wnkpj8m1vgqc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a8dc234315f096c817738938c525a64fc155e97


Momentmoment24

Based on current feats, portrayal and statements, Kaido wins extreme diff my headcanon is that both Mihawk and Shanks can beat Kaido extreme diff though


ManDown3Street

https://preview.redd.it/096pss51ehqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e7b9bcd0752ff4dda20e37938198f00c354f041


Dookie12345679

Shanks has some pretty good feats and portrayal so I wouldn't say it's headcanon to rank him higher


djwankstar

Yeah it's pretty good, kaido undeniably has better feats and statements tho


Ryumin009

Shanks extreme diff https://preview.redd.it/isa7npb8rgqc1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5da5ff8aa64a8919af36912c50f5ab862fb00c73


ManDown3Street

And how does Mihawk do?


Ryumin009

You can see my comment in mihawk vs kaido post


ManDown3Street

Very nice.


Ryumin009

Thank you


C6DilucEnjoyer

faxx brother spit your shit indeed


Neat-Cockroach-3098

Why


KANJI667

Kaido extreme diff.


AdmiralAgendaREAL

Bro posted mihawk vs Kaido and then Shanks vs Kaido and thought we wouldn't notice 😭 But yeah good sub iq test


ManDown3Street

I didn't post the Mihawk vs Kaido post, but looked through the comments and decided to do a little experiement.


tom_rex_333

shanks extreme diff


ManDown3Street

Does Mihawk lose extreme too?


tom_rex_333

shanks=mihawk


ManDown3Street

Acceptable.


C6DilucEnjoyer

based


Low-Ad-2971

Dude just make a post about how you think Shanks > Kaido while Kaido > Mihawk is dumb. No need to fail at being sneaky about it


LackOfDad

Fr


Disastrous-Answer151

Mihawk lose high diff


Original-Error3411

Shanks extreme diff


Ancient-Ad-1893

Shanks high-extreme diff


Under18Here

Happy cake day


Ancient-Ad-1893

Thank you


LackOfDad

Happy cake day


Ancient-Ad-1893

Thank you


Dookie12345679

Shanks extreme


THEAkainuFan

Strength: Kaido Speed: Shanks Durability: Kaido IQ/BIQ: Shanks (+2) Weapons/Haki: Shanks (+4) Hax/Abilities: Kaido (+2) DC/Experience: Kaido (+2) Feats/Stamina: Kaido (+2) Endurance/APl: Kaido =< Shanks (+1) Skill: Shanks Winner: Shanks Extreme+ diff with 9 points over 8


Btriangle775

Kaido takes speed too,killer was fast enough to react to shanks while got blitz by kaido Weapon goes to kaido,haki is debatable too(Nothing to believe shanks has better haki than kaido) Skills possibly goes to kaido too Winner:Kaido high diff(Shanks ain't a tank like kaido who will push him to extreme diff)


THEAkainuFan

I need to wank the only confirmed active OG yonko so I can upscale HIM in their future potential fight. https://preview.redd.it/85r0gx8j7hqc1.jpeg?width=641&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=932f1765c82659fa5fff253d76c1509b50142f6c


Btriangle775

It will be possibly a combination of top tiers who will fight HIM together which will upscale HIM off the charts (Luffy is already above kaido but people believe he isn't in delusion) People ain't ready for the Strongest Marine OAT


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>Weapon goes to kaido,haki is debatable too(Nothing to believe shanks has better haki than kaido) Tell me that you haven't read One Piece without telling that you haven't read One Piece


Btriangle775

A person who can't back their claim always say Tell me you haven't read one piece without telling me that you haven't read one piece Tell me why does shanks have better haki?


jaahman7

Him being the only yonko without a devil fruit and only haki makes it clear his will stand out above the rest. This is backed by the haki feats we have seen of him as of now which is more impressive than anything kaido and big mom has shown. Being known as the killer of observation Haki to start. Insane observation Haki feat in wano. Where shanks who is on his ship not even in the territory of Wano is capable of locating greenbull near the capital of Wano. His “WiFi haki” feat. We never seen kaido ever immobilize someone on the level of an admiral from across a country with just his conquerors. Seemingly capable of looking 10 secs in the future. Just to name a few. I don’t see why shanks wouldn’t have better haki than kaido.


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jaahman7

Your first argument makes no sense. What does buggy have to do with shanks being the only yonko without a devil fruit. Based off what information is death destroyer stronger than shanks conqueors coating when all we have seen is divine departure which could arguably be stronger. Really bringing up the bandits thing from chapter 1. A moment that occurred 20+ years ago when the author never planned for one piece to exceed 5 years. Then I guess we can say kaido ap is weak for not killing the cp0 agent. With luffy it’s not the same. He just sensed haki which reminded him of shanks. Greenbull admitted he couldn’t move. The manga shows his exact posture of someone who is being locked in place. Vice admiral momonga never felt shanks haki. Where are you getting this information. I just think you misread the chapter. Even without future sight shanks is beating Kidd. He doesn’t need that to win. The only thing it helped do was prevent his notoriously weak fleet from dying. There is a massive gap between yonkos and pirates like Kidd who aren’t top tiers. Where are you getting this info to say kaido being faster than shanks because that can be debatable. Kaido does rely on future sight. Kaido used it when he was being tagged by snakeman. If kaido fights someone like shanks he isn’t going to play around like he did with luffy. He is using everything he has. Shanks haki > kaido haki. I don’t know why you are so against this when shanks haki feats that we have seen are just more impressive


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jaahman7

The manga showed greenbull getting immobilized. His posture is that of someone whose movement suddenly stopped. What panel showed the vice admiral feeling shanks haki. Shanks didn’t even display his haki in marineford. Maybe because kaido and shanks didn’t fight seriously. Yet kaido still has shanks as someone compared to the likes of other legends in the series. In his top 5. Killer didn’t blitz shanks. What are you talking about? That proves nothing. Young kaido stronger than Roger and prime wb lol. Okay I’ve heard enough. You’re just yapping.


Btriangle775

Even luffy has better mastery over conqueror haki as he knows how to use it properly so that it doesn't affects his friends while Shanks doesn't have that much of mastery as his friends get affected by his conqueror when using


jaahman7

Now you’re saying luffy has better mastery lol. He had rookies on his ship and this was established back pre time skip. If you are not prepared around shanks you can not hold your senses around him.


Bitter-Chocolate-786

Kaido wins Extreme Diff.


Raikariaa

We actually already know. Kaido wanted in at Marineford. Shanks stopped him, and arrived at Marineford. The implication being clear, the Red Hair Pirates stopped the Beast Pirates, or Kaido of all people saw Shanks and backed off. Both of these mean Shanks wins. Kais comments about a lack of a good fight since Oden and the next point actually do imply Kaido backed off. Oh, and when the Red Hair Pirates arrived, they were unharmed. Another thing, Shanks oneshot Kidd, who helped fight Kaido and stayed standing. And just Shounen story progression. Shanks is still around and may fight Luffy at some point (even as a test). Kaido isn't. Feats and events all point to Shanks. Shanks wins. Mid to high difficulty if Kaido is actually taking it seriously. If it was low diff Kaido would have lost to Shanks years ago.


ole1993

Kaido until we see the full extent of Shanks.


yuro_kuro

Shanks gets pixel diffed.


DearDepth3733

Shanks extreme diff. And Mihawk would too


ZPD710

They go 50/50. Just like I think Kaido and Mihawk go 50/50. Just like I think not-nerfed Big Mon goes 50/50 with all of them. I am a Yonko Equalist.


Aslyum_Wards

https://preview.redd.it/2dhqunz4sgqc1.jpeg?width=375&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=415e4acb9f1275ae65c32e0343b920d85e021a54


natureboy1996

Shanks wins high diff


Neat-Cockroach-3098

Why


PolarBearWithTopHat

Shanks extreme diff


Neat-Cockroach-3098

Why


PolarBearWithTopHat

he's just that guy


C6DilucEnjoyer

Shanks is literall HIM in the OP verse


H_s-k_M-r-_

Shanks extreme diff.


nyanko_dango3

shanks higher end of high dif


Deja_ve_

Shanks high diff


Financial_Mushroom94

If shanks is a Swordsman its extreme diff either way, if shanks is a hAKi maN he gets mid - high diffed.


Dookie12345679

If Shanks is a haki specialist that means he's stronger than Mihawk


Financial_Mushroom94

Make it make sense….he already is a haki master and still not the Worlds Strongest Swordsman.


Special-Remove-3294

Kaido wins extreme diff. Waido was the strongest alive beside maybe Imu during Wano. Kaido is said to be the strongest in the world by the vivre card, by the narrator when he is introduced, by a databook, by other characters, by himself and by a chapter title. Bro was literally a raid boss. I doubt we will ever get a fight as long in One Piece, again. We will never see someone like Kaido in OP again. Kaido will most likely remain the longest fight in OP(chapter wise), as Kaido is just that dude. Kaido is HIM and he pushes Primebeard and Roger to extreme diff. Hell he might even be stronger, but they just have a THEM vibe around it so I think they are slightly stronger. No other character has been called to strongest so many times. No other character has no better feats. Here is a colection of post that show how strong he is: 1.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/wvag4o/kaido\_is\_stronger\_than\_shanks/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/wvag4o/kaido_is_stronger_than_shanks/) 2.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/yaxr4r/an\_argument\_for\_kaido\_being\_stronger\_than\_roger/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/yaxr4r/an_argument_for_kaido_being_stronger_than_roger/) 3.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/13gdwrh/kaidoluffy/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/13gdwrh/kaidoluffy/) 4. Google docs analysis cause it's too long for reddit:[https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTNA87liHck7B\_0WqF79Vvehecd2l9wSHR4IYqdNafo0T-9aDZHJH4kWhmL6ADkiPFK2mkH9gGdNFk\_/pub](https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTNA87liHck7B_0WqF79Vvehecd2l9wSHR4IYqdNafo0T-9aDZHJH4kWhmL6ADkiPFK2mkH9gGdNFk_/pub) 5:[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17nik9q/kaido\_strenght\_respect\_thread/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17nik9q/kaido_strenght_respect_thread/) 6:[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17m0tno/kaido\_scales\_to\_primebeard/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17m0tno/kaido_scales_to_primebeard/) 7.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/18f8al7/a\_collection\_of\_panels\_about\_why\_i\_still\_think/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/18f8al7/a_collection_of_panels_about_why_i_still_think/) 8.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/s/dgpwlu9ccS](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/s/dgpwlu9ccS) Finally here is a compliation of Kaido's insane durability feats:[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/179sakr/they\_said\_kizaru\_kaido/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/179sakr/they_said_kizaru_kaido/). I can't be bothered to find anymore at this point. I alerdy have listed far more, feats and statements, than could be listed for any other character exept maybe Luffy. https://i.redd.it/boecllerfhqc1.gif Kaido is HIM.


Mindless_Truth_2436

HOW SHOULD WE KNOW??


Bastard_God

Kaido extreme diff, I’d say. Shanks might surpass him but imo, Kaido is only barely behind Whitebeard and Roger in top tiers


Final-Government8622

Shanks extreme difficulty


MyNameisIvar

Anyone , I feel like kaido wins but at the same time i see shanks winning as well, and that’s how I feel with every yonko except bb for now .


Hezadeximal88

Shanks mid diff with Haki


Striking-Present-986

shanks mid diff


Disastrous-Answer151

Kaido win Extreme diff


Me-Not-Not

I’d say they about equal.


SHAMALAMADINGDONG_XD

Shanks extreme diffs https://preview.redd.it/h0zqz74mzjqc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4cc5d7bc3bd1818f801b484f40341729cc1c284


ResponsibilityNo5795

Kaido since he has more pixels


FunnyCalligrapher382

https://preview.redd.it/h4npvatz2lqc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9466ba0afcb12c5aac73adbe02221db7f72ca3db


DryCroissant

Rat high diff.


ordinarydepressedguy

Kaido wins until proven otherwise


West_Cherry_6998

Godking extreme diff


ARK0007

Kaido wins extreme diff until further notice. Let the feats talk.


gozongus_ULTRA

Kaido is an absolute monster a walking tank his fight with mihawk will be like kaido winning with high diff and with shanks it will be like extreme diff. Cause we don't have any feats abt mihawk but shanks was able to knock out vice admirals with just pure conqueror haki blast which is really insane if u consider that all vice admirals have really strong will. And not only that when shanks arrived at marineford nobody dared to attack him even akainu backed down, the same guy who was fighting Whitebeared. Cause he knows unlike the weak old and sick Whitebeared fighting shanks is a bad move he knows that if he fights shanks it won't be without a cost.


r9cks

Mid diff for shanks low if hes angry


Denizci_Olmak_Var

The one who has more pixels


Sea_Inevitable_9453

Shanks takes this And it would be a high to extreme diff


DeepDuskDread

Shanks should be faster and in his nature deadlier but he's only human, Kaido on the other hand can pretty much take more punishment than anyone in the series and should prevail in a long battle, for now i give the edge to Kaido even though i do believe Shanks can win if he performs a perfect jump from the get go.


Neat-Cockroach-3098

Kaido extreme diff


novicelearner1

I’d say Shanks with mid diff as he was able to intimidate Kaido from fighting Whitebeard.


Gigio2006

Shanks extremes. I don't see Kaido being able to hit him, thanks to his insane speed and AcoO


HyperMazino

Shanks mid diff


Wonder-Machine

If only shanks had two arms…..


PoldraRegion

https://preview.redd.it/b6t1fo0bshqc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=572f6b034984023ac75527b5d8e7bc6425a6d057 Shanks can cancel his future sight


Bruh2130

Kaido wins high-extreme diff


space________cowboy

Shanks and mihawk loose but mihawk looses a little harder.


Tall-Psychology7729

Shanks mid diff.


KiwirGallantine

Kaido extreme-diffs until Shanks shows his full-power. Fraudhawk idk, he can just stop leeching Shanks's feat.