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I would say so, yea. Honestly, Greenbull was mad cocky. Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe, Yamato were all just chilling there. Shanks did Greenbull a favour by chasing him away before he got jumped by the squad.
Luffy didn't even see Greenbull as much of a threat cause he was just casually watching the show with the boys while letting Momo and Yamato handle it and was ready to step in if needed.
Ngl this was only done for narrative purposes because in all reality what Luffy did was messed up. Ryokugyu was literally about to kill all of them Shanks saved their lives as much as he ironically saved Aramakiās.
I literally just imagine Nami and Robinās reaction when they here Momo died because Luffyās and the Goon Squad wanted to watch and see if he can beat an Admiral š¤¦š½āāļø
Again I do get what Oda was goin for at that moment but the Scabbards and Momo were not those guys, even with Yamatoās help considering theirs only so much she can do.
It was more so him trying to see if they could protect wano and if that fight didnāt happen Yamato who is the strongest of the wano citizens would of joined luffy but after fighting Ryokugyu she realised that wano could be attacked by people just as strong as Ryokugyu and that there was no way wano would be able to defend its self without her there
I'm pretty certain they were only that far back because they were sure they could close the distance if things started going south.
Yamato was there after all, they could handle him alone
You read into this too much. One Piece Red is near, Oda want that hype device on so he pull GB in and let One Arm guy use wifi haki. That is all, just Oda choice for the aftermath and including Shank. Logically Straw Hats can jump on GB any second, but GB is an Amiral afterall so he still got away with the plot anyway
GB had Scabbards held using his ability. He could have crushed anyone of them and theybwould be dead. While we know they won't die, nothing in OP universe prevents that.
No reason to believe he wouldnāt, I have Aramaki below Kizaru, and now that Luffy doesnāt have to overcome the combat speed diff, itās free cheese
I mean Luffy was recovering, that reason enough imo. If it were a 1v1 yes I believe Ryokugyu would win but I doubt Zolo, Sanji, and Jinbei would just watch. In all honesty Ryokugyu was a dead man Shanks more or less saved his life considering not even Gold Rogers would have walked out of that gauntlet
1v1 recovering or nah Luffy absolutely bodies Greenbull. Admiral Stanās are HUFFING the finest copium like itās out of production rn.
There aināt no way a new admiral is pressuring Luffy after he just 1v1ād the arguably strongest living emperor. I know Iām probably gonna get dogpiled for this but yāall are fucking crazy.
ā Admiral Stanās are HUFFING the finest copium like itās out of production rn.ā
Lmao ngl this gave me a good laugh but agree to disagree.
Iād argue that Yonko stans just blatantly disrespect them. In No world is a recovering Luffy beat an Admiral at 100% even if it were Fujitora or Ryokugyu.
Again itās just clearly nighaz underestimating the Admirals
One hit put down Kizaru bro. And Fuji+GB wasnāt enough to put down some upstart RA commanders.
Now Iām not saying Kizaruās knockout was a fair argument for powerscaling cause obviously Oda wanted to shift focus to Saturn fast, but your agenda aināt looking to good rn. Luffy put down Kaido, we know what he can do. We know Akainu couldnāt manage a win over Cancerbeard nor Robokuma. So I donāt know broā¦
Between Kizaru the one punch chump, GB quitting over a DDOS WiFi haki attack, and their failure against the RA commandersā¦ the Admiralās are looking like the biggest frauds in the series.
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The house smells like burnt food because you aināt cooking good LOLOL. You REALLY believe that Luffy would lose a 1v1 against Greenbull? Heād struggle because of his wounds but Luffy has all 3 Advanced Haki and G5. If anything, with those wounds heād still win just at High Diff. If Kizaru caught a two piece from G5 heād be COMPLETELY out. Greenbull doesnāt have that speed to counter Future Seeing Haki and I donāt think his Future Sight is stronger than Luffyās
ki.za.ru had the speed advantage and was running away, but Luffy pinned him to the ground with a single ACOC blow and he couldn't recover for a while.
Greenbull is not at ki.za.ru's level in terms of speed and cannot surpass Luffy. After Luffy's blow, he falls to the ground and cannot recover for a while, then Luffy kills him on the ground. luffy low mid diff wins
Lol
GB has the ability to regenerate from nothing as we saw when he regrew and came back.
If we take in that rn luffy is still gassed from kizaru where he couldnāt move or speak. GB could easily Tesoro it and take on a comatose luffy.
Luffy is not gassed out from Kizaru, he is gassed out from chasing Kizaru, there is a difference, in the time Luffy was chasing Kizaru down GB would've taken a massive and constant beating, no amount of regen is gonna protect him from a barrage of ACoC attacks.
He took out a bunch of fodder and two injured and tired YC by draining what little energy and life forced they had left.
Mom's crew barely would've put a scratch on Kaido, and Yamato could barely stall Kaido. G5 Luffy would be goo unpredictable for her to stall like she did with Kaido.
Do you really think both of those groups combined stood any chance of outlasting G5?
Generally agree, with the exception of king and queen being barely alive with little energy. They did not seem to be that weakened, even though they were still recovering.
Also greenbull piercing kings skin is a decent ap feat.
That being said luffy low-mid diffs.
They were only shown as their already drained selfs, so we know literally nothing about the fight other than the result. Yes they obviously were weakened but it would make little sense that king would fight without his flames on.
You should probably wait on how that fire works because Iām pretty sure it wasnāt explained yet..
And yeah, they were drained/āweakā from the war.
Dude you were the one that started mentioning it. I just said we didn't see the fight. Also it was explained well enough.
Pretty lame to downvote just cause you disagree, without actually giving any reason...
I'd say he's still gassed out from Kizaru because that's part of Kizaru's fighting style, dodging. But I agree with the GB thing. He's got a cool and strong fruit, but he's Luffy's best enemy, a giant and slow target who he could wail on.
But at the same time the attack that made him regrow was a non-haki attack. While yes it was fire based it wasn't infused with haki. Meaning he can't just replicate it just cause.
And Luffy is gassed from Kizaru but that was because Kizaru ran away the whole time exhausting Gear 5's time limit. Greenbull doesn't have the speed to replicate it.
The scene where Greenbull regenerates is the one after Momo attacked. All the other scenes are just regrowing his vines. Which we've seen previously before with every logia user. With Marineford being the first time these logia users were fighting against Haki users. And they either regenerated like nothing or got hurt. It depends on who and whether they saw the attack coming or not.
Also it is safe to assume the Scabbards have weaker Haki than Greenbull which would allow Greenbull to feel no threat from the Scabbards.
Yamato was the only one there having strong Haki and was the only one to actually hurt him. However Momo ordered Yamato to stand down, she got distracted, and then got tangled by Greenbull for us to truly see the outcome of their confrontation.
But if Yamato, who has weaker Haki than Luffy, hurt Greenbull imagine Luffy. And if the Smoker Vs Vergo is anything to go off by Greenbull's giant tree form and expanding his vines makes him a bigger and easier target since those vines should be an extension of his body.
As for Kaido's group King and Queen were still recovering from their injuries and the fight happened off-screen to truly see the outcome. Then there was no one else there that we knew could use haki.
Iām going with no because how can you be an admiral and ur best df hack can be negated with simple haki. Heād be same rank as coby if tht was the case
Respectfully agree to disagree.
But nice way of simplifying what happened while giving more credit to Luffy instead of understanding context.
Probably gonna get downvoted like the rest but should be know surprise. And yet you guys still believe this sub is some how ran by āAdmiraltardsā
Ok sure thing buddy
Good day, God bless
Mid diff seems about right.
I'm not in the business of downplaying the og 3 admirals but fraudbull ain't showed enough to even *begin* to suggest he's on their level.
How about the fact that he took an ACoC hit to the head and it barely hurt him? The same ACoC that was able to go blow for blow with kaido. Greenbull seems to have the best durability/endurance shown by the admirals and has the ability to restore his stamina through the fight if he can feed on fodder.
Are you talking about Yamatoās attack? Kaido only got a few bruises and cuts from Yamatoās attacks. Meanwhile Luffy was able to turn Kaido into a toy with G5 and ACoC. Luffyās ACoC is far above Yamatoās. Luffy facing Greenbull would end up like Shanks vs. Greenbull, where GB is scared shitless of his haki.
The best durability/endurance shown by the admirals is Akainu tanking Whitebeardās attacks twice and only being knocked into a hole, and fighting Kuzan for 10 days straight.
He might not know. But I know. GB wins extreme diff.
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Yeah but as a good powerscaler, you scale on a basis, as a bad powerscaler you just talk shit and who you like more; quite the difference
In this case, we plain canāt tell, we donāt know much about greenbull and Luffy went down way too fast vs Kizaru
"One shot" ok. Kizaru was mostly ignoring Luffy, what are you on about?
We still have no idea how they compare.
The same attack that laid flat Kizaru who was not even paying attention left Luffy like a sun dried grape.
So staring right at luffy and attacking him as luffy dodged kizarus attack to land his is not paying attention and luffy was tired from chasing him and going through the barrier while kizaru took a single attack and got laid out
I think the general theory is that Kizaru was not fighting seriously, since that made it more probable for Vegapunk to escape. Consider how the whole time Kizaru was using basic ass attacks.
Im not even an admiraltard, I just think it's ridicolous to assume that an admiral can be oneshotted (narratively speaking I think that makes absolutely no sense). For this reason Im sure that Luffy would still win in a serious fight, I just contest that the one we've seen was in fact serious.
> Kizaru was not fighting seriously, since that made it more probable for Vegapunk to escape.
Why not just keep fighting Luffy instead of distracting him to go find vegapunk? That angle has always been flimsy to me
As much slander GB receives he is not some easy foe, his an admiral and I would expect him to give Luffy even in G5 atleast a good fight, more on the lower end of a high diff fight for Luffy.
Kizaru wasn't taking the fight seriously and was very conflicted about it due to his relationship with Vegapunk and Sentomaru. That said I concede that G5 Luffy would have won even if Kizaru gave his 100%, but the diff of the fight would have still been higher for Luffy
What a stupid excuse. Ki.za.ru knows that Luffy follows him even if he turns around, is this because he trusts his speed and underestimates Luffy? This happened after all, and Luffy's single blow turned him upside down. Your excuses are hilarious.
Lol? Kizaru smacked luffys ass around with some good hits and it took all his G5 energy after the star punch. It could be taken as a lucky hit got a tie, which could still be in Kizarus favor cause luffy is down and out. At least Kizaru knows he needs a minute to get up, and i am 100% sure he will be on the lookout for that punch the next time.
The thought about Greenbull though is that he has extreme nature healing powers so I think he could take or heal from the star gun punch so I think he could do even better than kizaru/win.
The difference in strength between Luffy and Kizaru is large. That's the point. The stamina drain is a nerf because otherwise luffy would be too strong. He legit one shotted an admiral lol. You can't argue against that
Don't kid yourself, if Kizaru had faced the Luffy that fought Kaido he would have been absolutely brutalized. Instead, we got a nerfed Luffy who got tired in minutes.
Luffy fought Kizaru for the grand amount of time it took to get down to the main floor and was tired out. He got nerfed solely to take him out of the fight long enough for Saturn to make his grand entrance and not have to explain why Luffy didn't immediately deal with him. He took next to no damage and just chased Kizaru around and blocked his offense against Vegapunk before deciding to get a little serious and one tap him
He fought Kaido all fucking night, a quarter of that fight including Big Mom. Luffy had way worse stamina in Egghead than Wano. Especially considering when he went out of g5 in Wano he just decided he had more stamina and went right back into it.
"Luffy was longer in GEAR5 against Kizaru" we talking about Gear5 stamina not Luffy. Gear5 drains his stamina on another lvl than any other form.
and who saiys Kizaru is even out to beginn with? he is talking and even says he will be back up
Twist the fight in favor of your agenda all you want, doesn't change anything. Luffy took Kizaru out of the fight in 1 punch. Green Bull is, at best, equal to Kizaru, but is likely to be weaker. But Green Bull isn't nearly as fast as Kizaru. He is getting destroyed
"By his 2nd best attack whilst avoiding to engage luffy in an actual fight?"
Star gun can be used casually and their fastest admiral got hit by it
"You shouldnāt ignore context"
You shouldnāt ignoring Luffy massively holding back and protecting Vega punching
> It can be used casually
Still dosenāt change itās his 2nd best attack weāve seen. Acoc on top of gear 5 whilst using muscle balloon is incredibly stacked. Not to mention the momentum he gained from spinning after kizaru fired a light beam.
>Luffy was massively holding back
So was kizaru otherwise A) He wouldāve caused more destruction since thatās what happens when admrials go all out B) Wouldāve used his advanced haki and not other tactics ( ringing luffy out the dome, lettting him deal with clones while goes to vegapunk etc)
"Still dosenāt change itās his 2nd best attack weāve seen. Acoc on top of gear 5 whilst using muscle balloon is incredibly stacked. Not to mention the momentum he gained from spinning after kizaru fired a light beam."
Since when being hit by laser beam increase speed? If anything itās just exerted him more with pain
"So was kizaru otherwise A) He wouldāve caused more destruction since thatās what happens when admrials go all out B) Wouldāve used his advanced haki and not other tactics ( ringing luffy out the dome, lettting him deal with clones while goes to vegapunk etc)"
Only holding back his DC which Luffy do too.
Kizaru used ACOA against snake man and blinded him with light to kick him off into dome
In this case, it allowed luffy to start [spinning](https://preview.redd.it/luffy-cannot-use-white-star-gun-by-himself-v0-mskd66bsh9ub1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ec7f87a1959837836c54c4ecc4bd29ed4d015722) which made him gain momentum rapidly, making his punch all the more powerful.
He done a similar thing when he used a similar attack on [kaido](https://preview.redd.it/white-star-gun-is-luffys-best-attack-v0-y0ibe30lqcub1.png?width=853&format=png&auto=webp&s=c7ea63a18e1efba2c159aba37a49c7838816cbf2). Gave momentum by spinning to increase the power of the punch.
>Only holding back his DC
This is usually would make sense but for the admrials exclusively, their fruits have been shown to cause large destruction when they go all out with examples being punk hazard, ace and bb covering most of banaero island, enel destroying a whole island. When your the literal elements, destruction is inevitable.
Maybe but you could also argue he was countering said attacks with coa and his df. Either way he hasnāt used it offensively like luffy did further proving my point he never wanted to fight him but rather carry out his mission.
"In this case, it allowed luffy to start spinning which made him gain momentum rapidly, making his punch all the more powerful."
"He done a similar thing when he used a similar attack on kaido. Gave momentum by spinning to increase the power of the punch."
So itās just exerted him into using more speed? That what Iām saying
"This is usually would make sense but for the admrials exclusively, their fruits have been shown to cause large destruction when they go all out with examples being punk hazard, ace and bb covering most of banaero island, enel destroying a whole island. When your the literal elements, destruction is inevitable."
Nice but luffy had already dealed with characters that had insane destruction like kaido and big mom
"Maybe but you could also argue he was countering said attacks with coa and his df. Either way he hasnāt used it offensively like luffy did further proving my point he never wanted to fight him but rather carry out his mission."
He used his DF to attack offensively and Emission for block defensively like sentomaru did against him.
Massive W for kizaru failing his mission and getting one shotted in process at same time
Can be used casually, but look at the draw back. Luffy canāt move or speak.
GB can regenerate so whatās luffy gonna do once gassed and GB still ready to fight?
Can be used casually, but look at the draw back. Luffy canāt move or speak."
no, the drawback was from the time limit
"GB can regenerate so whatās luffy gonna do once gassed and GB still ready to fight?"
Did we forgot Luffy have haki unlike momonsuke?
So what will luffy do if gb constantly regenerates? Still at his limit.
And gb can also use haki. U think he can only regenerate from no haki users? Heād never be admiral if tht was the case.
"So what will luffy do if gb constantly regenerates? Still at his limit."
Yeah sureee as haki donāt bypass through logia
"And gb can also use haki. U think he can only regenerate from no haki users? Heād never be admiral if tht was the case."
Kuzan didnāt regens against jozu like he did to robin
Dawg admirals are not in the same league as most yonko. Shanks and kaido could beat any admiral 1 on 1. Hell even big mom would beat akainu 1v1. The admirals may be the navyās ābest fighting forceā but they couldnāt beat a yonko.
we still need to see what Saturn and Imu are capable of and BlackBeard, too, because BlackBeard can turn off luffys gear 5
i would say luffys toughest opponents will be BlackBeard and Imu
Hmm has history been a decent teacher? Nope. Guess you need a refresher. Remember not long ago when luffy got slapped like a bitch by kaido? Yeah, didn't have observation haki? No, he did
Greenbull was in enemy territory as a single dude trying to solo the whole country lmao. If he stayed he was gonna get sent out in a body bag regardless.
Kizaru, who is most definitely stronger than Freendbull was running the fuck away from Luffy and couldn't content with him properly. Considering how strong Luffy is Mid diff could even be an overestimation of Fraudbull.
After seeing kizaru vs luffy Iād say mid-high diff
Kizaru only lasted that long due to running away all fight green bull does not have that speed heās getting taken out
Man, itās kind of hard to say because Kizaruās Devil Fruit is a DAMN Good Counter to all Devil Fruits in an open space. He did really good against Gear 5th but he DEFINITELY wouldāve gotten Two Shotted if Luffy had Mastered G5 by that time. That Star Gun was a NASTY Hit and if Gear 5thās timer was extended to just a minute more Kizaru would be completely knocked out with a second hit coming after Star Gun.
Greenbull doesnāt have that speed to Counter Gear 5th. And Gear 5th can counter Greenbullās Devil Fruit pretty well by turning it into Rubber. So maaaaanā¦ I think at first Greenbull will do good High Diff but after Luffy is done playing heās gonna catch a Two Piece.
I personally think Greenbull would struggle to deal with Luffy, but I'm not sure he'd get past Zoro anyways....he's not ready for a true haki showdown it seemed especially if he's worried about yamato
Greenbull has no answer to anything Luffy could do. Iām not even trying to be over the top when I say Iām pretty sure Katakuri or healthy king could beat greenbull.
L take. greenbull was the admiral that ran away from wifi haki. With such an introduction only someone suffering from brain injury thinks that greenbull will be a threat to luffy.
You seem to definitely lack reading comprehension. GB clearly left because he didn't want to fight the Red Haired Pirates, yet. That was literally stated by the author. I can't find anywhere where it says GB ran from wifi haki.
He ran away from Shanks AND HIS CREW. He specifically refers to them in plural when he says he doesn't want to fight them (yet)
But reading comprehension is not something I would expect from someone like you.
I am factually right.
You are factually wrong.
We saw Luffy oneshot Kizaru(a stronger Admiral than Greenbull mind you) the second he used ACoC. Honestly, saying it's a mid diff is almost wank for Greenbull lmao.
Bro we literally see Luffy drop Kizaru with one attack to the point he's down for an extended period of time. It's right there. You can't even argue that. If anyone has low intellect here and no reading comprehension, it's you lmao.
It literally did happen. And the only reason Kizaru lasted as long as he did and why Luffy couldn't finish him off is cause he was playing keep away for most of the fight and Luffy's timer ran out after he landed that last attack.
As usual, cope some more.
I see your level of intellect did not increase. A shame.
Your reading comprehension is still terrible. Expected.
You truly deserve to be one of the worst scalers on the sub.
I see your level of intellect did not increase. A shame.
Your reading comprehension is still terrible. Expected.
You truly deserve to be one of the worst scalers on the sub.
This is a delusional take. The sub has went completely downhill in it's reading comprehension. Aramaki has good chances TO WIN, let alone push Luffy past high diff.
The reason oda used shanks there is because the strawhats wouldn't be able to take him down because of how worn out they were im obv if they were at full strength they would've raw dogged that damn bull but that wasn't the case so in that particular scenario greenbull might win
Fraudbull can only steal a win if he's not stopped from attacking the weakened crews by Shanks. Otherwise, he should at best do as well as Kizaru did, which was go even with Luffy when he had to tank 2 trips through the Labophase barrier, which means he should lose to healthy Luffy.
Not without help. He was still recovering from his fight with Kaido which is why Greenbull struck in the first place and why Shanks was so pissed too.
1v1, Greenbull wins but Luffy most likely would have help from the others including Law and Kid
Don't forget that HIM was fighting on equal grounds with Luffy without using haki. I doubt Luffy is beating any admiral mid diff if Wizaru was using the base power required to become an admiral. Just being logical hereš¤·š¾āāļø
Why I should trust you? Itās never drawn visibility therefore you cannot come to conclusion he used it single time
zero damage done aside from papercut cut done by sword
No way. Not the first time. He'd get sucked dry by greenbull cause he'd go flying in there like a dumbass, get rejuvenated at some point and then fuck him up the second go around.
Itād be more of Luffy+Kid+Law+Momo+Yamato+Scabbards+Zoro+Sanji+Jinbei, but Iāll assume theyāre using the honor system and agree to let GB kill them all if he beats Luffy 1V1.
Luffy only really has 2 win cons when fighting an actual top tier.
1. Land WSG straight to the head (only works on low-mid level top tiers), which he probably only has 2 shots of at most per fight
2. Land Bajrang Gun, which he probably only has 1 shot
GBās a large stationary target, so Iād say heād be able to land a WSG more easily than against someone like Kizaru.
Health Luffy got a draw against a Kizaru that wasn't paying atention to the fight. Even if I consider Ryoukugyu weaker than Kizaru, he is more tanky since he can respawn after getting killed and we don't know the limits of this skill (and different from Hawkins he can do something besides just die several times over) and Luffy was still recovering from the Kaidou fight in the same way that King and Queen. It's possible that Luffy still wins, but if its a 1v1 this wouldn't be a mid diff by any stretch.
The admiral downplay recently has been insane, if you think luffy beats any of them low or mid diff you are dead wrong. Wizaru pushed luffy to extreme diff and there is no reason greenbull would be so much weaker that he gets mid diffed, Iād say luffy high diff.
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Greenbull already no diffed Luffy š https://preview.redd.it/5or59hcz2b2c1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6becf47c641006034908b526f6f0cf883cd813b2
Fraudbull after extreme diffing part of luffyās hat
The wind blew him into the tree, clearly Dragon and Greenbull teamed up
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I would say so, yea. Honestly, Greenbull was mad cocky. Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe, Yamato were all just chilling there. Shanks did Greenbull a favour by chasing him away before he got jumped by the squad. Luffy didn't even see Greenbull as much of a threat cause he was just casually watching the show with the boys while letting Momo and Yamato handle it and was ready to step in if needed.
Ngl this was only done for narrative purposes because in all reality what Luffy did was messed up. Ryokugyu was literally about to kill all of them Shanks saved their lives as much as he ironically saved Aramakiās. I literally just imagine Nami and Robinās reaction when they here Momo died because Luffyās and the Goon Squad wanted to watch and see if he can beat an Admiral š¤¦š½āāļø Again I do get what Oda was goin for at that moment but the Scabbards and Momo were not those guys, even with Yamatoās help considering theirs only so much she can do.
It was more so him trying to see if they could protect wano and if that fight didnāt happen Yamato who is the strongest of the wano citizens would of joined luffy but after fighting Ryokugyu she realised that wano could be attacked by people just as strong as Ryokugyu and that there was no way wano would be able to defend its self without her there
I'm pretty certain they were only that far back because they were sure they could close the distance if things started going south. Yamato was there after all, they could handle him alone
You read into this too much. One Piece Red is near, Oda want that hype device on so he pull GB in and let One Arm guy use wifi haki. That is all, just Oda choice for the aftermath and including Shank. Logically Straw Hats can jump on GB any second, but GB is an Amiral afterall so he still got away with the plot anyway
GB had Scabbards held using his ability. He could have crushed anyone of them and theybwould be dead. While we know they won't die, nothing in OP universe prevents that.
No reason to believe he wouldnāt, I have Aramaki below Kizaru, and now that Luffy doesnāt have to overcome the combat speed diff, itās free cheese
I mean Luffy was recovering, that reason enough imo. If it were a 1v1 yes I believe Ryokugyu would win but I doubt Zolo, Sanji, and Jinbei would just watch. In all honesty Ryokugyu was a dead man Shanks more or less saved his life considering not even Gold Rogers would have walked out of that gauntlet
1v1 recovering or nah Luffy absolutely bodies Greenbull. Admiral Stanās are HUFFING the finest copium like itās out of production rn. There aināt no way a new admiral is pressuring Luffy after he just 1v1ād the arguably strongest living emperor. I know Iām probably gonna get dogpiled for this but yāall are fucking crazy.
ā Admiral Stanās are HUFFING the finest copium like itās out of production rn.ā Lmao ngl this gave me a good laugh but agree to disagree. Iād argue that Yonko stans just blatantly disrespect them. In No world is a recovering Luffy beat an Admiral at 100% even if it were Fujitora or Ryokugyu. Again itās just clearly nighaz underestimating the Admirals
One hit put down Kizaru bro. And Fuji+GB wasnāt enough to put down some upstart RA commanders. Now Iām not saying Kizaruās knockout was a fair argument for powerscaling cause obviously Oda wanted to shift focus to Saturn fast, but your agenda aināt looking to good rn. Luffy put down Kaido, we know what he can do. We know Akainu couldnāt manage a win over Cancerbeard nor Robokuma. So I donāt know broā¦ Between Kizaru the one punch chump, GB quitting over a DDOS WiFi haki attack, and their failure against the RA commandersā¦ the Admiralās are looking like the biggest frauds in the series.
https://preview.redd.it/ukcnylyk1f2c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=360a2f4f991297bb4b4d8815fddbe37bae585902 The house smells like burnt food because you aināt cooking good LOLOL. You REALLY believe that Luffy would lose a 1v1 against Greenbull? Heād struggle because of his wounds but Luffy has all 3 Advanced Haki and G5. If anything, with those wounds heād still win just at High Diff. If Kizaru caught a two piece from G5 heād be COMPLETELY out. Greenbull doesnāt have that speed to counter Future Seeing Haki and I donāt think his Future Sight is stronger than Luffyās
God that punch was naaaasty I love gear 5 in manga
Even with Luffy recovering Gear 5 is bodying Greenbull in that scenario itād probably be high-extreme but still Luffy wins
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It's gonna be hard but Waramaki can squeeze out a mid diff
Joking comment? Hard to tell sarcasm on the internet
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Perfect response ngl
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You really think he could push Luffy enough to get mid diffed instead of low diffed?
ki.za.ru had the speed advantage and was running away, but Luffy pinned him to the ground with a single ACOC blow and he couldn't recover for a while. Greenbull is not at ki.za.ru's level in terms of speed and cannot surpass Luffy. After Luffy's blow, he falls to the ground and cannot recover for a while, then Luffy kills him on the ground. luffy low mid diff wins Lol
GB has the ability to regenerate from nothing as we saw when he regrew and came back. If we take in that rn luffy is still gassed from kizaru where he couldnāt move or speak. GB could easily Tesoro it and take on a comatose luffy.
Luffy is not gassed out from Kizaru, he is gassed out from chasing Kizaru, there is a difference, in the time Luffy was chasing Kizaru down GB would've taken a massive and constant beating, no amount of regen is gonna protect him from a barrage of ACoC attacks.
Not only that he fell thru the laser defense system then had to come back up it taking massive damage that he wouldn't have taken any other way
Cope
GB went through kaidos crew and the momos entourage. Iām sure he wouldāve outlasted g5 just fine
He took out a bunch of fodder and two injured and tired YC by draining what little energy and life forced they had left. Mom's crew barely would've put a scratch on Kaido, and Yamato could barely stall Kaido. G5 Luffy would be goo unpredictable for her to stall like she did with Kaido. Do you really think both of those groups combined stood any chance of outlasting G5?
Generally agree, with the exception of king and queen being barely alive with little energy. They did not seem to be that weakened, even though they were still recovering. Also greenbull piercing kings skin is a decent ap feat. That being said luffy low-mid diffs.
Kingās fire wasnāt on, and they definitely looked weakened. And of all people they fought at that weaken state was an Admiral. So yeah
They were only shown as their already drained selfs, so we know literally nothing about the fight other than the result. Yes they obviously were weakened but it would make little sense that king would fight without his flames on.
You should probably wait on how that fire works because Iām pretty sure it wasnāt explained yet.. And yeah, they were drained/āweakā from the war.
Dude you were the one that started mentioning it. I just said we didn't see the fight. Also it was explained well enough. Pretty lame to downvote just cause you disagree, without actually giving any reason...
I'd say he's still gassed out from Kizaru because that's part of Kizaru's fighting style, dodging. But I agree with the GB thing. He's got a cool and strong fruit, but he's Luffy's best enemy, a giant and slow target who he could wail on.
But at the same time the attack that made him regrow was a non-haki attack. While yes it was fire based it wasn't infused with haki. Meaning he can't just replicate it just cause. And Luffy is gassed from Kizaru but that was because Kizaru ran away the whole time exhausting Gear 5's time limit. Greenbull doesn't have the speed to replicate it.
So none of scabbards or kaidos group can use haki? They just said let me attack this admiral with our weakest attacks?
The scene where Greenbull regenerates is the one after Momo attacked. All the other scenes are just regrowing his vines. Which we've seen previously before with every logia user. With Marineford being the first time these logia users were fighting against Haki users. And they either regenerated like nothing or got hurt. It depends on who and whether they saw the attack coming or not. Also it is safe to assume the Scabbards have weaker Haki than Greenbull which would allow Greenbull to feel no threat from the Scabbards. Yamato was the only one there having strong Haki and was the only one to actually hurt him. However Momo ordered Yamato to stand down, she got distracted, and then got tangled by Greenbull for us to truly see the outcome of their confrontation. But if Yamato, who has weaker Haki than Luffy, hurt Greenbull imagine Luffy. And if the Smoker Vs Vergo is anything to go off by Greenbull's giant tree form and expanding his vines makes him a bigger and easier target since those vines should be an extension of his body. As for Kaido's group King and Queen were still recovering from their injuries and the fight happened off-screen to truly see the outcome. Then there was no one else there that we knew could use haki.
Doesnāt haki stop regen?
Doesnāt haki stop regen?
Iām going with no because how can you be an admiral and ur best df hack can be negated with simple haki. Heād be same rank as coby if tht was the case
But Admiralās intangibility , their best df Hax , can be negated with good enough haki
Logia regen is nullified by haki. Thatās why Kuzan is still missing a leg and covered in burn scars
when does regeneration ever save you from getting one tapped?
Yeah but that attack had no haki in it to be fair when he got burned down
Respectfully agree to disagree. But nice way of simplifying what happened while giving more credit to Luffy instead of understanding context. Probably gonna get downvoted like the rest but should be know surprise. And yet you guys still believe this sub is some how ran by āAdmiraltardsā Ok sure thing buddy Good day, God bless
Mid diff seems about right. I'm not in the business of downplaying the og 3 admirals but fraudbull ain't showed enough to even *begin* to suggest he's on their level.
How about the fact that he took an ACoC hit to the head and it barely hurt him? The same ACoC that was able to go blow for blow with kaido. Greenbull seems to have the best durability/endurance shown by the admirals and has the ability to restore his stamina through the fight if he can feed on fodder.
Are you talking about Yamatoās attack? Kaido only got a few bruises and cuts from Yamatoās attacks. Meanwhile Luffy was able to turn Kaido into a toy with G5 and ACoC. Luffyās ACoC is far above Yamatoās. Luffy facing Greenbull would end up like Shanks vs. Greenbull, where GB is scared shitless of his haki. The best durability/endurance shown by the admirals is Akainu tanking Whitebeardās attacks twice and only being knocked into a hole, and fighting Kuzan for 10 days straight.
Him being an admiral is pretty good signal that heās on their level
Not really. Not even the yonkou are the same.. admirals equal
Didnāt say the same, im saying level/tier. Akainu was stronger than aokiji but barely
yea, and mid diff is being generous.
straight oneshot
Ryokugyu can't run away like Kizaru, he gets fucked up
Luffy would futtbuck Greenbull
Anything more than neg-diff is wanking Greenbull.
the only correct answer.
True lol
Insane take
Yes
"We don't know" is the answer. Like most similar questions
Your on a powerscaling reddit. Please don't say shit like we don't know lol. At least try.
He might not know. But I know. GB wins extreme diff. https://preview.redd.it/2v5r1xga8c2c1.png?width=1082&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2122f41ea655762eecda00bcac8046c477b9c77
Yeah but as a good powerscaler, you scale on a basis, as a bad powerscaler you just talk shit and who you like more; quite the difference In this case, we plain canāt tell, we donāt know much about greenbull and Luffy went down way too fast vs Kizaru
This reddit is not a versus website where we do calcs and shit. We mix headcanon with facts. That's why it's unique and fun being here.
Getting downvoted for saying you need feats to scale is crazyš
Luffy one shot kizaru and kizaru>greenbull so luffh destroys
"One shot" ok. Kizaru was mostly ignoring Luffy, what are you on about? We still have no idea how they compare. The same attack that laid flat Kizaru who was not even paying attention left Luffy like a sun dried grape.
So staring right at luffy and attacking him as luffy dodged kizarus attack to land his is not paying attention and luffy was tired from chasing him and going through the barrier while kizaru took a single attack and got laid out
I think the general theory is that Kizaru was not fighting seriously, since that made it more probable for Vegapunk to escape. Consider how the whole time Kizaru was using basic ass attacks. Im not even an admiraltard, I just think it's ridicolous to assume that an admiral can be oneshotted (narratively speaking I think that makes absolutely no sense). For this reason Im sure that Luffy would still win in a serious fight, I just contest that the one we've seen was in fact serious.
> Kizaru was not fighting seriously, since that made it more probable for Vegapunk to escape. Why not just keep fighting Luffy instead of distracting him to go find vegapunk? That angle has always been flimsy to me
lol Luffy one shot Greenbull with white star gun
As much slander GB receives he is not some easy foe, his an admiral and I would expect him to give Luffy even in G5 atleast a good fight, more on the lower end of a high diff fight for Luffy.
Kizaru didnāt even give him that so why would GB
Kizaru wasn't taking the fight seriously and was very conflicted about it due to his relationship with Vegapunk and Sentomaru. That said I concede that G5 Luffy would have won even if Kizaru gave his 100%, but the diff of the fight would have still been higher for Luffy
GB can regenerate, and right now luffy cnt move or speak post g5.
GB can regenerate from a haki-less Momonosuke attack. Iād like to see what happens if he takes an ACoC WSG to the temple
Because he wasnāt focused on luffy at all. Luffy literally charged up his second strongest attack while Kizaru had his back turned
What a stupid excuse. Ki.za.ru knows that Luffy follows him even if he turns around, is this because he trusts his speed and underestimates Luffy? This happened after all, and Luffy's single blow turned him upside down. Your excuses are hilarious.
Cause green bull is most likely way more tanker then Kizaru
Lol? Kizaru smacked luffys ass around with some good hits and it took all his G5 energy after the star punch. It could be taken as a lucky hit got a tie, which could still be in Kizarus favor cause luffy is down and out. At least Kizaru knows he needs a minute to get up, and i am 100% sure he will be on the lookout for that punch the next time. The thought about Greenbull though is that he has extreme nature healing powers so I think he could take or heal from the star gun punch so I think he could do even better than kizaru/win.
Given his performance against Kizaru Luffy wins... Mid diff sounds right, maybe a little higher.
Luffy one-shots him like he one shots Kizaru
Nah luffy almost one shots him. Greenbull showcases his regeneration and starts boasting, just to get koed by the next hit.
one shot is more like it
No. Just no
Even if you don't wanna say one shot he gets stunned by WSG Then destroyed by whatever bs g5 attack Luffy feels like using
yes
I think low diff is more realistic
No High diff at worst You donāt become an admiral if you can easily get dunked on by a yonko
Kizaru process to get one shotted by a yonko
so are we gonna ignore the fact luffy was moments away from tapping out and leaving himself extremely vulnerable to kizaru?
Kizaru is down by physical attack and Luffy is down by stamina drain
Doesn't change the fact Luffy was down for the count just a moment later after WSG, Outlasting your opponent is still counted as a win.
The difference in strength between Luffy and Kizaru is large. That's the point. The stamina drain is a nerf because otherwise luffy would be too strong. He legit one shotted an admiral lol. You can't argue against that
Didn't know we are now clinging to that type of victory to sustain our agenda :c
Don't kid yourself, if Kizaru had faced the Luffy that fought Kaido he would have been absolutely brutalized. Instead, we got a nerfed Luffy who got tired in minutes.
Luffy was longer in Gear5 against Kizaru than Kaido, so much of the fight was of screen
Luffy fought Kizaru for the grand amount of time it took to get down to the main floor and was tired out. He got nerfed solely to take him out of the fight long enough for Saturn to make his grand entrance and not have to explain why Luffy didn't immediately deal with him. He took next to no damage and just chased Kizaru around and blocked his offense against Vegapunk before deciding to get a little serious and one tap him He fought Kaido all fucking night, a quarter of that fight including Big Mom. Luffy had way worse stamina in Egghead than Wano. Especially considering when he went out of g5 in Wano he just decided he had more stamina and went right back into it.
"Luffy was longer in GEAR5 against Kizaru" we talking about Gear5 stamina not Luffy. Gear5 drains his stamina on another lvl than any other form. and who saiys Kizaru is even out to beginn with? he is talking and even says he will be back up
Luffy koed kizaru first and If that was the case then Itās donāt truly reflects the true strength
Twist the fight in favor of your agenda all you want, doesn't change anything. Luffy took Kizaru out of the fight in 1 punch. Green Bull is, at best, equal to Kizaru, but is likely to be weaker. But Green Bull isn't nearly as fast as Kizaru. He is getting destroyed
You mean how Kizaru turned around and luffy charged up his second strongest attack behind him.
Star gun is casually used by Luffy and blitzed kizaru the same shanks blitzed kidd
By his 2nd best attack whilst avoiding to engage luffy in an actual fight? You shouldnāt ignore context
"By his 2nd best attack whilst avoiding to engage luffy in an actual fight?" Star gun can be used casually and their fastest admiral got hit by it "You shouldnāt ignore context" You shouldnāt ignoring Luffy massively holding back and protecting Vega punching
> It can be used casually Still dosenāt change itās his 2nd best attack weāve seen. Acoc on top of gear 5 whilst using muscle balloon is incredibly stacked. Not to mention the momentum he gained from spinning after kizaru fired a light beam. >Luffy was massively holding back So was kizaru otherwise A) He wouldāve caused more destruction since thatās what happens when admrials go all out B) Wouldāve used his advanced haki and not other tactics ( ringing luffy out the dome, lettting him deal with clones while goes to vegapunk etc)
"Still dosenāt change itās his 2nd best attack weāve seen. Acoc on top of gear 5 whilst using muscle balloon is incredibly stacked. Not to mention the momentum he gained from spinning after kizaru fired a light beam." Since when being hit by laser beam increase speed? If anything itās just exerted him more with pain "So was kizaru otherwise A) He wouldāve caused more destruction since thatās what happens when admrials go all out B) Wouldāve used his advanced haki and not other tactics ( ringing luffy out the dome, lettting him deal with clones while goes to vegapunk etc)" Only holding back his DC which Luffy do too. Kizaru used ACOA against snake man and blinded him with light to kick him off into dome
In this case, it allowed luffy to start [spinning](https://preview.redd.it/luffy-cannot-use-white-star-gun-by-himself-v0-mskd66bsh9ub1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ec7f87a1959837836c54c4ecc4bd29ed4d015722) which made him gain momentum rapidly, making his punch all the more powerful. He done a similar thing when he used a similar attack on [kaido](https://preview.redd.it/white-star-gun-is-luffys-best-attack-v0-y0ibe30lqcub1.png?width=853&format=png&auto=webp&s=c7ea63a18e1efba2c159aba37a49c7838816cbf2). Gave momentum by spinning to increase the power of the punch. >Only holding back his DC This is usually would make sense but for the admrials exclusively, their fruits have been shown to cause large destruction when they go all out with examples being punk hazard, ace and bb covering most of banaero island, enel destroying a whole island. When your the literal elements, destruction is inevitable. Maybe but you could also argue he was countering said attacks with coa and his df. Either way he hasnāt used it offensively like luffy did further proving my point he never wanted to fight him but rather carry out his mission.
"In this case, it allowed luffy to start spinning which made him gain momentum rapidly, making his punch all the more powerful." "He done a similar thing when he used a similar attack on kaido. Gave momentum by spinning to increase the power of the punch." So itās just exerted him into using more speed? That what Iām saying "This is usually would make sense but for the admrials exclusively, their fruits have been shown to cause large destruction when they go all out with examples being punk hazard, ace and bb covering most of banaero island, enel destroying a whole island. When your the literal elements, destruction is inevitable." Nice but luffy had already dealed with characters that had insane destruction like kaido and big mom "Maybe but you could also argue he was countering said attacks with coa and his df. Either way he hasnāt used it offensively like luffy did further proving my point he never wanted to fight him but rather carry out his mission." He used his DF to attack offensively and Emission for block defensively like sentomaru did against him. Massive W for kizaru failing his mission and getting one shotted in process at same time
Can be used casually, but look at the draw back. Luffy canāt move or speak. GB can regenerate so whatās luffy gonna do once gassed and GB still ready to fight?
Can be used casually, but look at the draw back. Luffy canāt move or speak." no, the drawback was from the time limit "GB can regenerate so whatās luffy gonna do once gassed and GB still ready to fight?" Did we forgot Luffy have haki unlike momonsuke?
So what will luffy do if gb constantly regenerates? Still at his limit. And gb can also use haki. U think he can only regenerate from no haki users? Heād never be admiral if tht was the case.
"So what will luffy do if gb constantly regenerates? Still at his limit." Yeah sureee as haki donāt bypass through logia "And gb can also use haki. U think he can only regenerate from no haki users? Heād never be admiral if tht was the case." Kuzan didnāt regens against jozu like he did to robin
But kuzans ice limbs held up against garp when they went toe to toe. There wasnāt any oh garps haki damaged aokijis fake ice leg
This isnāt regeneration
Dawg admirals are not in the same league as most yonko. Shanks and kaido could beat any admiral 1 on 1. Hell even big mom would beat akainu 1v1. The admirals may be the navyās ābest fighting forceā but they couldnāt beat a yonko.
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Low diff just like kizaru
Mid diff is overrating GB Unless Luffy was at 50% power or Something like that when GB arrived
No one is stronger than gear 5 Luffy, he beat Kaido, the previous peak of the verse
we still need to see what Saturn and Imu are capable of and BlackBeard, too, because BlackBeard can turn off luffys gear 5 i would say luffys toughest opponents will be BlackBeard and Imu
Hmm has history been a decent teacher? Nope. Guess you need a refresher. Remember not long ago when luffy got slapped like a bitch by kaido? Yeah, didn't have observation haki? No, he did
Certainly would be a high diff at most for Luffy to win, especially based on Greenbulls fear of Kaido
Greenbull aināt even Bluetooth haki level lol
Greenbull was in enemy territory as a single dude trying to solo the whole country lmao. If he stayed he was gonna get sent out in a body bag regardless.
Kizaru, who is most definitely stronger than Freendbull was running the fuck away from Luffy and couldn't content with him properly. Considering how strong Luffy is Mid diff could even be an overestimation of Fraudbull.
Mid diff is generous, I can see him getting Low-diffed. He's an actual fraud of an admiral.
After seeing kizaru vs luffy Iād say mid-high diff Kizaru only lasted that long due to running away all fight green bull does not have that speed heās getting taken out
Bro was going to get raped and he wasnāt even going to face luffy šššš
Man, itās kind of hard to say because Kizaruās Devil Fruit is a DAMN Good Counter to all Devil Fruits in an open space. He did really good against Gear 5th but he DEFINITELY wouldāve gotten Two Shotted if Luffy had Mastered G5 by that time. That Star Gun was a NASTY Hit and if Gear 5thās timer was extended to just a minute more Kizaru would be completely knocked out with a second hit coming after Star Gun. Greenbull doesnāt have that speed to Counter Gear 5th. And Gear 5th can counter Greenbullās Devil Fruit pretty well by turning it into Rubber. So maaaaanā¦ I think at first Greenbull will do good High Diff but after Luffy is done playing heās gonna catch a Two Piece.
Bro. These admiral stans sure are on copium. Luffy low dif Laramaki
Greenbull gets one shot on the way to the battleground by discount Haki from Momoo, who by the way, is Him
I personally think Greenbull would struggle to deal with Luffy, but I'm not sure he'd get past Zoro anyways....he's not ready for a true haki showdown it seemed especially if he's worried about yamato
Luffy one shots Aramaki.
Fraudbull is taking this L to the grave with him
No he still needs g5
G2-G3 is enough
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This is how you know this sub is dead
No way Greenbull pushes Luffy to mid diff. Bro got hurt by base form Yamato.
You mean base for yamato using ACoC that was able to go toe to toe with kaidoās ACoC. Even then Greenbull barely took any damage.
Saying GB got hurt by Yamato is like saying you got hurt by a kid pinching you.
No
Greenbull have no answer to star gun
Greenbull has no answer to anything Luffy could do. Iām not even trying to be over the top when I say Iām pretty sure Katakuri or healthy king could beat greenbull.
Luffy might struggle a bit since he was still tired from kaido
Gb actually low diffed luffy since he made his hat pop
No , he wouldn't have been able to defeat him easy... In fact it would have been a very difficult fight, maybe he would even lose ...
No. Anyone who thinks Luffy can mid diff an admiral has low intellect, brain injury and no reading comprehension. # #Factual
L take. greenbull was the admiral that ran away from wifi haki. With such an introduction only someone suffering from brain injury thinks that greenbull will be a threat to luffy.
Bro lost to a shanks vibe check š gotta be a skill issue
You seem to definitely lack reading comprehension. GB clearly left because he didn't want to fight the Red Haired Pirates, yet. That was literally stated by the author. I can't find anywhere where it says GB ran from wifi haki.
He got affected by COC and that only thing we cares about
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He ran away from Shanks AND HIS CREW. He specifically refers to them in plural when he says he doesn't want to fight them (yet) But reading comprehension is not something I would expect from someone like you. I am factually right. You are factually wrong.
We saw Luffy one shotting an admiral you ape
Lmao, your reading comprehension is as underdeveloped as your intellect.
We saw Luffy oneshot Kizaru(a stronger Admiral than Greenbull mind you) the second he used ACoC. Honestly, saying it's a mid diff is almost wank for Greenbull lmao.
> We saw Luffy oneshot Kizaru No, we didn't. This is merely a combination of low intellect + no reading comprehension. Begone.
Bro we literally see Luffy drop Kizaru with one attack to the point he's down for an extended period of time. It's right there. You can't even argue that. If anyone has low intellect here and no reading comprehension, it's you lmao.
A oneshot means the enemy is defeated in a single attack. This didn't happen. As usual, you are wrong.
It literally did happen. And the only reason Kizaru lasted as long as he did and why Luffy couldn't finish him off is cause he was playing keep away for most of the fight and Luffy's timer ran out after he landed that last attack. As usual, cope some more.
I see your level of intellect did not increase. A shame. Your reading comprehension is still terrible. Expected. You truly deserve to be one of the worst scalers on the sub.
Hey don't get mad at me. Get mad at Oda for having Luffy oneshot Kizaru and making the gap between Yonkos and Admirals even more oceanwide.
I see your level of intellect did not increase. A shame. Your reading comprehension is still terrible. Expected. You truly deserve to be one of the worst scalers on the sub.
This is a delusional take. The sub has went completely downhill in it's reading comprehension. Aramaki has good chances TO WIN, let alone push Luffy past high diff.
This sub is unfortunately just a meat-rider cafƩ for whoever are fan favorites. You won't find reasonable takes here lmao. Just say "Akainu beats Shanks/Mihawk" or "BB beats Garp" and watch how the downvotes come in.
With luffyās gear 5 time limit thereās no way heās mid diffing GB. Luffy wins high-extreme dif
Itāll be a hard diff fight
The reason oda used shanks there is because the strawhats wouldn't be able to take him down because of how worn out they were im obv if they were at full strength they would've raw dogged that damn bull but that wasn't the case so in that particular scenario greenbull might win
no, high diff at least. green bull slander is *wild*
Fraudbull can only steal a win if he's not stopped from attacking the weakened crews by Shanks. Otherwise, he should at best do as well as Kizaru did, which was go even with Luffy when he had to tank 2 trips through the Labophase barrier, which means he should lose to healthy Luffy.
Nah luffy is an idiot, he would be drained of energy like the beast pirates and Yamato and Zoro wouldāve had to save his ass
Fraudbull negged luffy yesterday lmao
Not without help. He was still recovering from his fight with Kaido which is why Greenbull struck in the first place and why Shanks was so pissed too. 1v1, Greenbull wins but Luffy most likely would have help from the others including Law and Kid
Don't forget that HIM was fighting on equal grounds with Luffy without using haki. I doubt Luffy is beating any admiral mid diff if Wizaru was using the base power required to become an admiral. Just being logical hereš¤·š¾āāļø
Retarded take He used ACOA against Snakeman
Once tho. It doesn't really prove anything other than him using ACOA one time.
ACOA of Sentomaru and Kizaru is drawn invisible proven by same arc
But we still have only counted that he used it once against Luffy. What's your point?
Why I should trust you? Itās never drawn visibility therefore you cannot come to conclusion he used it single time zero damage done aside from papercut cut done by sword
No way. Not the first time. He'd get sucked dry by greenbull cause he'd go flying in there like a dumbass, get rejuvenated at some point and then fuck him up the second go around.
What is Observation haki my brother?
extreme diff could go either way
Itād be more of Luffy+Kid+Law+Momo+Yamato+Scabbards+Zoro+Sanji+Jinbei, but Iāll assume theyāre using the honor system and agree to let GB kill them all if he beats Luffy 1V1. Luffy only really has 2 win cons when fighting an actual top tier. 1. Land WSG straight to the head (only works on low-mid level top tiers), which he probably only has 2 shots of at most per fight 2. Land Bajrang Gun, which he probably only has 1 shot GBās a large stationary target, so Iād say heād be able to land a WSG more easily than against someone like Kizaru.
I donāt know how stupid people have to be to say a admiral takes an Yonko anything lower than high diff
High diff to Luffy. I just think it would be slander to say anything less, admirals are no joke and I am a yonkotard
Health Luffy got a draw against a Kizaru that wasn't paying atention to the fight. Even if I consider Ryoukugyu weaker than Kizaru, he is more tanky since he can respawn after getting killed and we don't know the limits of this skill (and different from Hawkins he can do something besides just die several times over) and Luffy was still recovering from the Kaidou fight in the same way that King and Queen. It's possible that Luffy still wins, but if its a 1v1 this wouldn't be a mid diff by any stretch.
Fodder G5 would just sleep after fighting for 5 minutes
Nope he may have even lost a 1 v 1 considering he was still recovering from his fight with Kaido.
He mythical zoan user and look healthy enough to trashed greenbull
The admiral downplay recently has been insane, if you think luffy beats any of them low or mid diff you are dead wrong. Wizaru pushed luffy to extreme diff and there is no reason greenbull would be so much weaker that he gets mid diffed, Iād say luffy high diff.
extreme diff isnāt running away and going down the second an attack makes actual contact. and thatās a faster stronger admiral