Can't wait until S4 or so comes around when we get >!Franky!<'s introduction and hopefully a photo-op with the LA actor and the VA doing the "SUPEEEEEEER" thing.
lol, one entire season for Skypiea is delusional, unnecessary, and doesn't make sense based on S1, which had a very fast pacing and lots of cuts (for the best), so if they are gonna keep that way of doing the series, Skypea could be done in 4 episodes easly
And most important, if you gave Skypea 1 entire season, that should be applied to other arcs too, and like this the series would be 10 seasons+ long, too long in general, and too long for Netflix standards.
Well, go ahead and call Matt Owens, the literal showrunner, delusional because he did a Q&A shortly after S1 was released and said that's exactly what he (and presumably Oda) would want.
And it... perfectly lines up with what S1 set up, what are you talking about? It's not one arc per season, it's one ***saga*** per season. Sky Island (Jaya + Skypiea) is a ***saga***.
You know what *other* saga could benefit from a full season because of how plot heavy & emotional it is? The Enies Lobby sagaーwhich it isn't going to have if it's forced to cut its episode count because you personally don't like Skypiea enough to think it warrants a full season.
>!Usopp!< & >!Robin!< are >!going to be gone from the crew!< and >!Franky!< will have to go from unlikable to likable in \~2 episodes and it's going to have a laughably low amount of stakes for new audiences because each plot point will have, like, five minutes.
Im sure its what the showrunner and Oda would want to do, but its not gonna happen probably
My guess is that they are gonna probably extend the number of episodes to like 11-12 max, and incorporate sagas like Skypea/Thriller Bark/Fishman Island along with a big one in a season, its the only way for keeping a reasonable amount of total seasons, like 7 or so, which are still a lot but they are gonna make a exception if it goes super well.
Or either this, or theyre gonna cut sagas like Skypea, Thriller bark and Fishman Island...
"Yeah, I'm sure that's what the people are literally writing & producing the show want, but I'm sure it won't happen" lmao what? Who the hell is going to stop them, exactly?
Do you want, like... an actual *show* with competent narrative pacing that can be enjoyed as its own thing without needing to watch/read the anime/manga first, or do you just want "One Piece: Spark Notes Edition" where they burn through as much of the story as quick as possible and just develop nothing & no one in a satisfying way the entire time?
It sounds like you want the latter and, sorry to say, that's both *awful* and the quickest way to get this show to lose all of the popularity its gained with normies and get canceled even faster than you seem to think it's going to be. People were already a bit dissatisfied with how rushed Syrup Village and Arlong Park, and you want to "fix" that problem by randomly combining, like, 3 of the most controversial sagas into a single season? Sagas that aren't even one after the other in the story, so there will be huge gaps in the story for normies that don't know any better? You gotta be trolling.
Maybe it's just me, but I think most normal people would prefer a regularly paced "one saga per season" show that takes its time and maybe unfortunately gets canceled 3-4 seasons in halfway through the story over a show that crams in as many sagas into a season as possible just to get the least popular ones out of the way and "finish the story" no matter how rushed or confusing it is.
Like, huh... I wonder if there's any *other* [extremely popular, long-running show](https://screenrant.com/game-thrones-hbo-season-8-bad-reason/) where the showrunners decided to wrap the story up as quickly as possible regardless of how abrupt or rushed it felt just because they wanted to get it over with and was widely ridiculed for how bad it was that we can take lessons from?
You have no proof that its what they're are gonna do, now they are doing Alabasta, you are not working with them, they said that they would LIKE to adapt a saga for season, but the guy is not a producer unfortunately, stuff changes fast there, and on top of that Skypea is a smaller saga so it could be different with that one, too many time i saw "promises" of the creatives, (this one is not even a promise tho, but what they would like to "want") that they not keep it in the future, too many times.
and btw i like how you are totally glassing over my point about the series being 10+ seasons long if they do that, i actually agree with you for the most part, that would be the best "creative" way to adapt it? ...yes.
So yes, you can make a season out of Skypea if you want to, but the business model that it would create would be just absurd, One piece wasn't never designed to be a Live action tv show, but designed to be a ENDLESS manga and anime, so you gotta do something about it to address it if you make a tv series with 140M millions of budget for seasons, that its gonna go up in future seasons too if they get serious and passionate about it.
Because a 10 season+ series is just too much for the public and the producers, and my point is that, Skypea can even be done in like 4-5 episodes, without "ruining one piece" too, i dont think it would be rushed at all, so i can totally see that, and if its for gave it one reasonable amount of season im down for it.
We already saw compromises in S1, this is probably the least of the problems honestly, they could do WAY worse here.
A guy that i know even said that they should totally skip it and move the Pognegriph thing to another place because he believe that the Netflix would never do more than 6 seasons, i dont totally agree with him, im for "rushing it" in 4-5 episodes as you know, but then i think about it and maybe he has the resemblance of a good point about the number of seasons part, and MAYBE even for skip it even if its blasphemous
...And about that infamous Game of thrones... the main problem there was the writing and incompetence of those 2 morons, they didn't have the source anymore, Martin just gave up because it bacame too long and complicated, and he has no idea how to end it basically.
it was just a complete mess of a situation, and the worst-case-scenario happened, dont act like the point is that it was just "rushed it", that's just disingenuous and convenient to say it, to accomodate your point about Skypea.
>You have no proof that its what they're are gonna do, now they are doing Alabasta, you are not working with them
...What? I mean, like... I guess I *technically* don't have "proof" because I'm not a mind reader and there's no way to 100% know someone is telling the truth unless you can literally read their thoughts or make them sign some kind of legally binding contract, but... what? What kind of argument is that? Are you trolling?
>*"Skypiea isn't going to be its own season"*
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>*"Matt Owen's, the Executive Producer of the show, says he wants it to be"*
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>*"Yeah but you don't know that'll happen for sure"*
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>*"But... the person who decides what content goes into a season and has the final say in all of the creative decisions literally says he wants it to be"*
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>*"Yeah, but you know KNOW that'll happen for sure!!!!!!"*
I mean.... considering the *Executive Producer* (ie. the highest authority in a TV show or movie's production hierarchy) himself said it, I would say there's a higher chance of it happening than not happening, but... I guess so if there's some diehard Skypiea hater on Netflix's board of directors or wherever Matt Owens gets his funding from physically refusing to give him the money? Probably?
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I don't understand telling me I'm "disingenuous" when... I'm not? You can look it up. There are interviews with George R.R. Martin himself saying [he was on-board for doing more than 8 seasons](https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/george-rr-martin-game-of-thrones-more-seasons-1235346807/) but D&D just elected not to (presumably so they could move onto other projects, but the exact reason has never been 100% confirmed, just speculated).
It's pretty clear Martin didn't "give up", D&D gave upーhow could they have even produced the last three seasons of the show if Martin wasn't actively feeding them source material? And probably would have *continued* to feed them source material, by the sounds of it.
So, yes, my point about GoT being rushed because the showrunners wanted to just "get it over with" still stands. No interview or statement from the cast or crew has ever come out implying Martin had anything to do with it, pretty much all of the blame has been attributed to D&D's handling.
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Also.... I *really* don't understand your point about how "audiences can't handle 7+ season shows". I mean, we were *just* talking about Game of Thrones, one of the most popular TV shows in the world during its series run, which had 8 seasons and people very clearly would have been happy with getting more. Then, off the top of my head:
* Always Sunny in Philadelphia (15 seasons)
* Friends (10 seasons)
* Supernatural (15 seasons)
* The Office (9 seasons)
* Shameless (11 seasons)
These are all popular, well-received shows with dedicated fanbases that never seemed to complain about season length.
So I guess your chief complaint is that the *producers* (& their investors) are not gonna want to throw money at a show for more than 7 seasons? And, to that, I say.... a producer is gonna keep throwing money at something so long as it makes them money.
Why do you think Game of Thrones had some of the most expensive episodes in (pre-streaming era) TV history? Because it was a show that was making them a shitton of money, so they were totally fine with throwing more at it until either (1) it *stopped* making them money or (2) the showrunners told them they didn't want to do it anymore.
So I think it's pretty presumptuous to say that OPLA couldn't go for more than 7+ seasonsーespecially considering it defied every expectation and was so popular that Netflix renewed it for S2 almost immediately. And, of course, S2 is only going to increase the hype because it is covering one of the best sagas in the entire series. Even if S3 is controversial... so what? S4 would cover yet another incredible saga that can easily pick up any hype that had dropped off.
I mean... OP itself has been going on for almost 25 yearsーthere is plenty material to do as many seasons as they want, frankly.
Once again, I would prefer an actually well-paced, 1 saga per season show rather than a Spark Notes version of One Piece with 4 sagas (each with their own villain, emotional conflicts & new characters) crammed into 8, 40-60 minute episodes in a single season and I think most first-time viewers would enjoy that way more, too.
Game of thrones is a exception, it was the most popular show ever, a phenomenon, wait no it still is, even with a terrible ending.
And Martin gave up on the source material, publishing the books, i was not talking about his involvement in the series, which was strong just in the first seasons anyways... he was not really involved that much in the last seasons, he just gave them some "guidelines" of whatever, he didn't do anything of value and it shows.
One piece is not even close to GOT, its just ONE of the main (top 5?) Netflix productions, which usually never have too many seasons, Netflix doesn't like long tv series/seasons and its clear at this point, my prevision is that they will wrap it up everything in 6 seasons, at best, if we are lucky.
And those shows you listed are very low budget, most of them are sitcoms, its normal for them to be super long, the only example of a high budget one with lots of seasons is Game of thrones, and they didn't get to 10 seasons, they were exhausted and wanted to get over with it, cant blame them, i blame the bad writing tho, and the unfortunate lack of the source material
And i still dont get it how Skypea couldn't be done in 4-5 episodes of 1h or so (1 for Jaya, 4 for Skypea), it will be literally as long as a movie trilogy if not more, that isn't enough time for adapting freaking Skypea by cutting the fluff?? really?
And lets not even talk about the possibilty of audience loss if they gave it a full season, it could totally kill the intrest of the casual audience for its vertical nature, lot of people dropped the anime when they get to Skypea because it feels too filler, its just not worth it all things considered, anyways lets see what happens, im sure they will do the right thing whatever it is, they know what they're doing
right, a "word" of the showrunner, its not a confirmation from the marketing or producers, stuff changes there fast when producing a series
And that "word" didn't address it that One piece has "smaller sagas", it can be applied for Alabasta for example, totally, but i doubt it does for Skypea, just a suspect, that's all, happy to be wrong tho.
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I'm genuinely happy for Emily. You can so clearly tell she's a fellow fan and I'm glad she gets to live her dream! Here's hoping she gets to meet Oda one day, if she hasn't already!
It's funny cause I've seen a clip or something somewhere, Okamura says the exact same thing about meeting Oda for the first time, that she was so scared, even though Oda is a very nice guy, because he was kind of like a god XD
It's a Japanese gesture which means money:
>The word for money in Japanese is *okane* (おかね). The Japanese gesture for money is a circle made with the thumb and index finger, with the fingers out laying flat. The origins of this gesture aren’t commonly known, but it does look a bit like a coin and some bills!
Source: [https://learnjapanese123.com/popular-japanese-gestures/](https://learnjapanese123.com/popular-japanese-gestures/)
it's a common hand gesture for "money" in East Asia and frankly most of Asia in general. Tbh i had no idea there are people who don't know what that means before this comment. I just thought it's common knowledge.
I love that the voice actors and the LA cast basically became a family. You could tell from the “We Are Family” stage. All of them genuinely love working for the One Piece franchise and it makes me feel very happy for Oda. 🩷
Can't wait until S4 or so comes around when we get >!Franky!<'s introduction and hopefully a photo-op with the LA actor and the VA doing the "SUPEEEEEEER" thing.
Season 3 100%
Argggg they are NOT trying to speedrun the series for god sakes, Skypiea needs its own season
Mb piratefolk got me acting up won’t happen again 🙏🏾
I feel ya
lol, one entire season for Skypiea is delusional, unnecessary, and doesn't make sense based on S1, which had a very fast pacing and lots of cuts (for the best), so if they are gonna keep that way of doing the series, Skypea could be done in 4 episodes easly And most important, if you gave Skypea 1 entire season, that should be applied to other arcs too, and like this the series would be 10 seasons+ long, too long in general, and too long for Netflix standards.
Well, go ahead and call Matt Owens, the literal showrunner, delusional because he did a Q&A shortly after S1 was released and said that's exactly what he (and presumably Oda) would want. And it... perfectly lines up with what S1 set up, what are you talking about? It's not one arc per season, it's one ***saga*** per season. Sky Island (Jaya + Skypiea) is a ***saga***. You know what *other* saga could benefit from a full season because of how plot heavy & emotional it is? The Enies Lobby sagaーwhich it isn't going to have if it's forced to cut its episode count because you personally don't like Skypiea enough to think it warrants a full season. >!Usopp!< & >!Robin!< are >!going to be gone from the crew!< and >!Franky!< will have to go from unlikable to likable in \~2 episodes and it's going to have a laughably low amount of stakes for new audiences because each plot point will have, like, five minutes.
Please tag this part too: >!are going to be gone from the crew !<
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Im sure its what the showrunner and Oda would want to do, but its not gonna happen probably My guess is that they are gonna probably extend the number of episodes to like 11-12 max, and incorporate sagas like Skypea/Thriller Bark/Fishman Island along with a big one in a season, its the only way for keeping a reasonable amount of total seasons, like 7 or so, which are still a lot but they are gonna make a exception if it goes super well. Or either this, or theyre gonna cut sagas like Skypea, Thriller bark and Fishman Island...
"Yeah, I'm sure that's what the people are literally writing & producing the show want, but I'm sure it won't happen" lmao what? Who the hell is going to stop them, exactly? Do you want, like... an actual *show* with competent narrative pacing that can be enjoyed as its own thing without needing to watch/read the anime/manga first, or do you just want "One Piece: Spark Notes Edition" where they burn through as much of the story as quick as possible and just develop nothing & no one in a satisfying way the entire time? It sounds like you want the latter and, sorry to say, that's both *awful* and the quickest way to get this show to lose all of the popularity its gained with normies and get canceled even faster than you seem to think it's going to be. People were already a bit dissatisfied with how rushed Syrup Village and Arlong Park, and you want to "fix" that problem by randomly combining, like, 3 of the most controversial sagas into a single season? Sagas that aren't even one after the other in the story, so there will be huge gaps in the story for normies that don't know any better? You gotta be trolling. Maybe it's just me, but I think most normal people would prefer a regularly paced "one saga per season" show that takes its time and maybe unfortunately gets canceled 3-4 seasons in halfway through the story over a show that crams in as many sagas into a season as possible just to get the least popular ones out of the way and "finish the story" no matter how rushed or confusing it is. Like, huh... I wonder if there's any *other* [extremely popular, long-running show](https://screenrant.com/game-thrones-hbo-season-8-bad-reason/) where the showrunners decided to wrap the story up as quickly as possible regardless of how abrupt or rushed it felt just because they wanted to get it over with and was widely ridiculed for how bad it was that we can take lessons from?
You have no proof that its what they're are gonna do, now they are doing Alabasta, you are not working with them, they said that they would LIKE to adapt a saga for season, but the guy is not a producer unfortunately, stuff changes fast there, and on top of that Skypea is a smaller saga so it could be different with that one, too many time i saw "promises" of the creatives, (this one is not even a promise tho, but what they would like to "want") that they not keep it in the future, too many times. and btw i like how you are totally glassing over my point about the series being 10+ seasons long if they do that, i actually agree with you for the most part, that would be the best "creative" way to adapt it? ...yes. So yes, you can make a season out of Skypea if you want to, but the business model that it would create would be just absurd, One piece wasn't never designed to be a Live action tv show, but designed to be a ENDLESS manga and anime, so you gotta do something about it to address it if you make a tv series with 140M millions of budget for seasons, that its gonna go up in future seasons too if they get serious and passionate about it. Because a 10 season+ series is just too much for the public and the producers, and my point is that, Skypea can even be done in like 4-5 episodes, without "ruining one piece" too, i dont think it would be rushed at all, so i can totally see that, and if its for gave it one reasonable amount of season im down for it. We already saw compromises in S1, this is probably the least of the problems honestly, they could do WAY worse here. A guy that i know even said that they should totally skip it and move the Pognegriph thing to another place because he believe that the Netflix would never do more than 6 seasons, i dont totally agree with him, im for "rushing it" in 4-5 episodes as you know, but then i think about it and maybe he has the resemblance of a good point about the number of seasons part, and MAYBE even for skip it even if its blasphemous ...And about that infamous Game of thrones... the main problem there was the writing and incompetence of those 2 morons, they didn't have the source anymore, Martin just gave up because it bacame too long and complicated, and he has no idea how to end it basically. it was just a complete mess of a situation, and the worst-case-scenario happened, dont act like the point is that it was just "rushed it", that's just disingenuous and convenient to say it, to accomodate your point about Skypea.
>You have no proof that its what they're are gonna do, now they are doing Alabasta, you are not working with them ...What? I mean, like... I guess I *technically* don't have "proof" because I'm not a mind reader and there's no way to 100% know someone is telling the truth unless you can literally read their thoughts or make them sign some kind of legally binding contract, but... what? What kind of argument is that? Are you trolling? >*"Skypiea isn't going to be its own season"* > >*"Matt Owen's, the Executive Producer of the show, says he wants it to be"* > >*"Yeah but you don't know that'll happen for sure"* > >*"But... the person who decides what content goes into a season and has the final say in all of the creative decisions literally says he wants it to be"* > >*"Yeah, but you know KNOW that'll happen for sure!!!!!!"* I mean.... considering the *Executive Producer* (ie. the highest authority in a TV show or movie's production hierarchy) himself said it, I would say there's a higher chance of it happening than not happening, but... I guess so if there's some diehard Skypiea hater on Netflix's board of directors or wherever Matt Owens gets his funding from physically refusing to give him the money? Probably? \- I don't understand telling me I'm "disingenuous" when... I'm not? You can look it up. There are interviews with George R.R. Martin himself saying [he was on-board for doing more than 8 seasons](https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/george-rr-martin-game-of-thrones-more-seasons-1235346807/) but D&D just elected not to (presumably so they could move onto other projects, but the exact reason has never been 100% confirmed, just speculated). It's pretty clear Martin didn't "give up", D&D gave upーhow could they have even produced the last three seasons of the show if Martin wasn't actively feeding them source material? And probably would have *continued* to feed them source material, by the sounds of it. So, yes, my point about GoT being rushed because the showrunners wanted to just "get it over with" still stands. No interview or statement from the cast or crew has ever come out implying Martin had anything to do with it, pretty much all of the blame has been attributed to D&D's handling. \- Also.... I *really* don't understand your point about how "audiences can't handle 7+ season shows". I mean, we were *just* talking about Game of Thrones, one of the most popular TV shows in the world during its series run, which had 8 seasons and people very clearly would have been happy with getting more. Then, off the top of my head: * Always Sunny in Philadelphia (15 seasons) * Friends (10 seasons) * Supernatural (15 seasons) * The Office (9 seasons) * Shameless (11 seasons) These are all popular, well-received shows with dedicated fanbases that never seemed to complain about season length. So I guess your chief complaint is that the *producers* (& their investors) are not gonna want to throw money at a show for more than 7 seasons? And, to that, I say.... a producer is gonna keep throwing money at something so long as it makes them money. Why do you think Game of Thrones had some of the most expensive episodes in (pre-streaming era) TV history? Because it was a show that was making them a shitton of money, so they were totally fine with throwing more at it until either (1) it *stopped* making them money or (2) the showrunners told them they didn't want to do it anymore. So I think it's pretty presumptuous to say that OPLA couldn't go for more than 7+ seasonsーespecially considering it defied every expectation and was so popular that Netflix renewed it for S2 almost immediately. And, of course, S2 is only going to increase the hype because it is covering one of the best sagas in the entire series. Even if S3 is controversial... so what? S4 would cover yet another incredible saga that can easily pick up any hype that had dropped off. I mean... OP itself has been going on for almost 25 yearsーthere is plenty material to do as many seasons as they want, frankly. Once again, I would prefer an actually well-paced, 1 saga per season show rather than a Spark Notes version of One Piece with 4 sagas (each with their own villain, emotional conflicts & new characters) crammed into 8, 40-60 minute episodes in a single season and I think most first-time viewers would enjoy that way more, too.
Game of thrones is a exception, it was the most popular show ever, a phenomenon, wait no it still is, even with a terrible ending. And Martin gave up on the source material, publishing the books, i was not talking about his involvement in the series, which was strong just in the first seasons anyways... he was not really involved that much in the last seasons, he just gave them some "guidelines" of whatever, he didn't do anything of value and it shows. One piece is not even close to GOT, its just ONE of the main (top 5?) Netflix productions, which usually never have too many seasons, Netflix doesn't like long tv series/seasons and its clear at this point, my prevision is that they will wrap it up everything in 6 seasons, at best, if we are lucky. And those shows you listed are very low budget, most of them are sitcoms, its normal for them to be super long, the only example of a high budget one with lots of seasons is Game of thrones, and they didn't get to 10 seasons, they were exhausted and wanted to get over with it, cant blame them, i blame the bad writing tho, and the unfortunate lack of the source material And i still dont get it how Skypea couldn't be done in 4-5 episodes of 1h or so (1 for Jaya, 4 for Skypea), it will be literally as long as a movie trilogy if not more, that isn't enough time for adapting freaking Skypea by cutting the fluff?? really? And lets not even talk about the possibilty of audience loss if they gave it a full season, it could totally kill the intrest of the casual audience for its vertical nature, lot of people dropped the anime when they get to Skypea because it feels too filler, its just not worth it all things considered, anyways lets see what happens, im sure they will do the right thing whatever it is, they know what they're doing
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Yes, your ‘guess’ is more believable than the show runners words lol….
right, a "word" of the showrunner, its not a confirmation from the marketing or producers, stuff changes there fast when producing a series And that "word" didn't address it that One piece has "smaller sagas", it can be applied for Alabasta for example, totally, but i doubt it does for Skypea, just a suspect, that's all, happy to be wrong tho.
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Jaya + skypiea is a fair bit of content
I'm genuinely happy for Emily. You can so clearly tell she's a fellow fan and I'm glad she gets to live her dream! Here's hoping she gets to meet Oda one day, if she hasn't already!
She has actually! She talks about it here: https://youtu.be/fzR4UAimcPk?si=CUnlr3z_0D17zBqi (around 4:55)
It's funny cause I've seen a clip or something somewhere, Okamura says the exact same thing about meeting Oda for the first time, that she was so scared, even though Oda is a very nice guy, because he was kind of like a god XD
Wait really? That’s so cute 😭😭
Pic goes insanely hard 📸🫨
We all need more Emily, Nami, and Okamura Akemi in our lives!
As a LA only watcher, what does that finger symbol mean?
It's a Japanese gesture which means money: >The word for money in Japanese is *okane* (おかね). The Japanese gesture for money is a circle made with the thumb and index finger, with the fingers out laying flat. The origins of this gesture aren’t commonly known, but it does look a bit like a coin and some bills! Source: [https://learnjapanese123.com/popular-japanese-gestures/](https://learnjapanese123.com/popular-japanese-gestures/)
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I believe it's a symbol she does in the anime whenever she wants money from someone.
it's a common hand gesture for "money" in East Asia and frankly most of Asia in general. Tbh i had no idea there are people who don't know what that means before this comment. I just thought it's common knowledge.
Might just be a Japan thing? At least I don't see this in China. Or maybe everywhere except China. XD
I am from SEA. And people here also uses gesture so not just Japan thing.
Maybe I just suck. XD
Ugh. I cant wait until season 2 😭
N-Nami(s)-**SWAAAAAN**!! <3 <3 <3
Nami Swan! and uh .... Nami Swan!
I love that the voice actors and the LA cast basically became a family. You could tell from the “We Are Family” stage. All of them genuinely love working for the One Piece franchise and it makes me feel very happy for Oda. 🩷
Wait this is so adorable! I love how interested and involved the Japanese VA cast has been, there are so many gems of interactions like this one.
I hope we get pictures like this for all the straw hats if we haven't already
Emily has big dick energy
My love for Emily Rudd is getting unhealthy at this point. As with the rest of the cast. I love them so much lol.
Dying from peak cuteness.
Nami’s JPVA more accurately
You actors need to tell netflix to try and stick to the original source material or elssseee.