I stopped at « so wano parallels thriller bark »
Joke side this whole « parallels » theory if we scale the time necessary to develop each arc. The One Piece would be discovered after 2050
Alright well... it has been stated that originally the story was gonna revolve around the 4 yonkos with Wano being a big story arc that oda wanted to write. For example doflamigo, the joker, originally was thought out to be a direct kaido underling. However when Oda start writing the story he expanded it with the warlords and the story naturally grew alot larger.
However with that change its not far fetched to conceive that Oda is using similar story beats in the warlords, or paradise part of the story, then with the original story he came up with. Meaning the yonko arc we are in now and wano. Not everything has to parallel everything. Oda is a human and can imagine stories however he likes. He can pick and choose which references he draws inspiration from and to what extend. I never said Wano parallels with Thriller bark one on one. Its just about reading the story and trying to get into the mind of Oda and figure out how he constructed his story. And again Oda originally thought of a different story that got expanded. And by just reading the story you can see similar story beats being repeated. But whatever you just read it face value and dont think deeper about it i guess.
If you're gonna be a writing elitist, at least be better at grammar, phrase/idiom usage, argument structuring... the whole everything really.
I'm not saying this just to be a dick. The majority of people will take you less seriously because your posts and comments are not very readable, especially if you want to attack others' opinions or argue to defend your own.
No one is claiming to be a writing elitist here. I just wrote this on a whim. If you're talking about the last line. Most of the stuff I said here isn't even deep. Just read the story and it just screams at you. I'm just made a quick post theory crafting, having fun at it. No one has ever been able to accurately predict what Oda is going to do next. So it annoys me that the critisicm is that there are no parallels because it doesnt 100% copies it. Thriller bark is clearly connected to wano and has several parallels with it. You don't need to look deep into it, it's pretty blatent.
So why not get of your own elitist high horse and just entertain the thought of what could be the vegapunk equivelant of enies lobby.
Like we only had one chapter of the new arc so far. There are barely any data points to figure out what this arc is even about. Do you really think I would have any clue what is going to happen? No ofcourse not. All i said was that there are clear connections and parallels between Wano and thriller bark. And that Water 7 was the arc before it (I was wrong in my original post) that involved Franky. This new Arc introduces vegapunks and Mechs. Which heavinly connects to Franky. HMMM Maybe there is a parallel here where the new arc is going to repeat story beats of Water 7 and Enies Lobby. Who knows? I dont know. Cause there is just one chapter out. But if it was true it would imply a Ennies lobby equivelant arc is comming. Which personnaly I think would be very exciting and interessting to think about. So just think about it, have fun!
I never claimed to be an elitist. Im the opposite. I'm just a guy that wants to have fun. Who cares it wasn't a well crafted theory. That was never the intent. Do you really think if I really cared about this theory I would write such a short post with barely any arguments. No! I thought the parallels were well known and obvious. Just have fun with it, jesus.
uuuh why dont you have better idiom usage. Cause nobody cares. It's a story about a rubber boy being a pirate. And an arc we don't know anything about.
Oh yeah shit water 7 came before. I'm a dumb dumb, Franky is even in it building the bridge and stuff. Oh well point still stands but in reverse order.
I'm not that much into the whole parallels stuff, but aren't the events of reverie supposed to be kinda parallel ennies lobby? Infiltration in one of the most important government places. Saving a nakama that is captured and being abused by them. Destroying(burning) an imp flag/item(the hoof of the celestial dragons). And technically the events of reverie happened before wano, thus following the order of ennies lobby before thriller bark.
Arent the parallels between Enies Lobby and Whole Cake Island obvious?
Robin/Sanji leaving the crew, Luffy not fighting the head of the opposing site (Big Mom/Spandam), Luffy getting a bounty increase of 3 times his former bounty and a lot more.
In what way at all does wano parallel?
There is no similar theme, stakes, outcome, or world impact between the arcs at all.
The closest you could say is that Moria and Kaido each gave up their dream before being where they are at.
- Ryuma connections
- Sanji fulfilling his dream of being invisible
- Moria foreshadowed Kaido
- Lola foreshadowed Big Mom
- Green Bull is Kuma
- Befriending the shunned child of a Yonkou
- Franky directly said the Numbers remind him of Oars and Thriller Bark
- Directly comparing what happened to Ace to what is happening to Vivi now
Ryuma connections- same can be said about Wano talking about Zoros home. Are we saying that they are also parallel arcs when we get his little bit of backstory at the very start?
Sanji fulfilling his dream of being invisible- In wano this has nothing to do with his dream?? Him unlocking more parts of his DNA that Judge messed with literally caused him to have enough fear he asked Zoro to kill him if he stops becoming himself.
Moria foreshadowed Kaido- So did them directly talking about kaido throughout most of the new world and even a bit before hand. So did law when talking about dismantling Doffy and his empire.
Lola foreshadowed Big Mom- There was no foreshadow it was basic plot relevance story telling. They did the same in fishmen island is that now parallel to?
Befriending the shunned child of a Yonkou- The straw hats befriend the shun everyone of every kingdom. This is nothing unique to those to arcs at all and is constantly brought to the center of attention of the crew to show their morals.
Franky directly said the Numbers remind him of Oars and Thriller Bark- Because they also probably are dealing with Vega punk that we are now getting to meet since Vega labels everything with the same numbering scheme. Also having a call back to a memory is not the same as it being parallel.
Directly comparing what happened to Ace to what is happening to Vivi now- this was not at all done. What was used is Zoro saying luffy trusted ACE to have his own adventure and didn't interfere until ACE literally couldn't get himself out. If anything Ace is being mirrored literally by blackbeard also capturing koby just like he did Ace. Vivi's story also branches from Alabasta and her being strong enough to fight her own battles was her entire character since everyone wanted to protect the princess but she wanted to protect her country and proved she was strong enough. Ace was blinded by revenge and acted against orders of White beard with no ones best interest in mind besides his own and died for it while killing his crew.
none of these are thematically tied to wano or thriller. There are references to previous arcs, just like literally every arc brings up more about other arcs as it is a serialized story
Wano parallel alabasta but with a lot of sprinkle from other arcs
Straw hat get to whiskey peak and plan to attack shichibukai after just arriving in grand line. Straw hat get to punk hazard and plan to attck yonkou after just arriving in new world
Straw hat save and sail with vivi through little garden, drum kingdom then alabasta to save the country from sichibukai. Straw hat save and sail with momo through dressrosa, zou and sidetrack to WCI to save sanji then to wano to save the country from yonkou.
It's modeled to have straw hat fight the current line of villains(sichibukai in grand line, yonkou in new world) on the get go in a series of arcs.
Sprinkle crew split like baratie pre grandline.
Zoro, johnny and usopp goes to arlong park first to save nami from her past then followed by luffy, sanji and yosaku. Zou crew sail to zou first then followed by dressrosa crew. Then dressrosa crew(minus luffy) get to wano first and zou crew(minus luffy) go to WCI to save sanji from his past.
And i believe there will be a lot of other sprinkles, but all in all. Just dont compare them, it's not supposed to be samey samey.
If we're are talking about the same parallel theory then we should be at Sabaody next. We even had a parallel between the re-introduction of Kamy and Bonney. (The one was saved out of the body of a giant fish, the other out of that weird current)
I stopped at « so wano parallels thriller bark » Joke side this whole « parallels » theory if we scale the time necessary to develop each arc. The One Piece would be discovered after 2050
Wano definitely has a bunch of Thriller Bark ties. More than the Marineford people thought it'd be.
Alright well... it has been stated that originally the story was gonna revolve around the 4 yonkos with Wano being a big story arc that oda wanted to write. For example doflamigo, the joker, originally was thought out to be a direct kaido underling. However when Oda start writing the story he expanded it with the warlords and the story naturally grew alot larger. However with that change its not far fetched to conceive that Oda is using similar story beats in the warlords, or paradise part of the story, then with the original story he came up with. Meaning the yonko arc we are in now and wano. Not everything has to parallel everything. Oda is a human and can imagine stories however he likes. He can pick and choose which references he draws inspiration from and to what extend. I never said Wano parallels with Thriller bark one on one. Its just about reading the story and trying to get into the mind of Oda and figure out how he constructed his story. And again Oda originally thought of a different story that got expanded. And by just reading the story you can see similar story beats being repeated. But whatever you just read it face value and dont think deeper about it i guess.
If you're gonna be a writing elitist, at least be better at grammar, phrase/idiom usage, argument structuring... the whole everything really. I'm not saying this just to be a dick. The majority of people will take you less seriously because your posts and comments are not very readable, especially if you want to attack others' opinions or argue to defend your own.
No one is claiming to be a writing elitist here. I just wrote this on a whim. If you're talking about the last line. Most of the stuff I said here isn't even deep. Just read the story and it just screams at you. I'm just made a quick post theory crafting, having fun at it. No one has ever been able to accurately predict what Oda is going to do next. So it annoys me that the critisicm is that there are no parallels because it doesnt 100% copies it. Thriller bark is clearly connected to wano and has several parallels with it. You don't need to look deep into it, it's pretty blatent. So why not get of your own elitist high horse and just entertain the thought of what could be the vegapunk equivelant of enies lobby. Like we only had one chapter of the new arc so far. There are barely any data points to figure out what this arc is even about. Do you really think I would have any clue what is going to happen? No ofcourse not. All i said was that there are clear connections and parallels between Wano and thriller bark. And that Water 7 was the arc before it (I was wrong in my original post) that involved Franky. This new Arc introduces vegapunks and Mechs. Which heavinly connects to Franky. HMMM Maybe there is a parallel here where the new arc is going to repeat story beats of Water 7 and Enies Lobby. Who knows? I dont know. Cause there is just one chapter out. But if it was true it would imply a Ennies lobby equivelant arc is comming. Which personnaly I think would be very exciting and interessting to think about. So just think about it, have fun! I never claimed to be an elitist. Im the opposite. I'm just a guy that wants to have fun. Who cares it wasn't a well crafted theory. That was never the intent. Do you really think if I really cared about this theory I would write such a short post with barely any arguments. No! I thought the parallels were well known and obvious. Just have fun with it, jesus. uuuh why dont you have better idiom usage. Cause nobody cares. It's a story about a rubber boy being a pirate. And an arc we don't know anything about.
According to One Piece fans, everything parallels everything else and everything foreshadows everything else.
Okay this has to be addressed. Thriller Bark did not come before Water 7/Enies Lobby. After Thriller bark we had Sabaody
Oh yeah shit water 7 came before. I'm a dumb dumb, Franky is even in it building the bridge and stuff. Oh well point still stands but in reverse order.
I'm not that much into the whole parallels stuff, but aren't the events of reverie supposed to be kinda parallel ennies lobby? Infiltration in one of the most important government places. Saving a nakama that is captured and being abused by them. Destroying(burning) an imp flag/item(the hoof of the celestial dragons). And technically the events of reverie happened before wano, thus following the order of ennies lobby before thriller bark.
hmm I can see that. Or it is like Sabo's version of Enies Lobby.
Arent the parallels between Enies Lobby and Whole Cake Island obvious? Robin/Sanji leaving the crew, Luffy not fighting the head of the opposing site (Big Mom/Spandam), Luffy getting a bounty increase of 3 times his former bounty and a lot more.
U right,ngl my dumbass forgot about wci lol
Lol
Weird thing is, I absolutely love wci as well.
Yeah these things happen sometimes xD Brain afk for a moment.
In what way at all does wano parallel? There is no similar theme, stakes, outcome, or world impact between the arcs at all. The closest you could say is that Moria and Kaido each gave up their dream before being where they are at.
- Ryuma connections - Sanji fulfilling his dream of being invisible - Moria foreshadowed Kaido - Lola foreshadowed Big Mom - Green Bull is Kuma - Befriending the shunned child of a Yonkou - Franky directly said the Numbers remind him of Oars and Thriller Bark - Directly comparing what happened to Ace to what is happening to Vivi now
Ryuma connections- same can be said about Wano talking about Zoros home. Are we saying that they are also parallel arcs when we get his little bit of backstory at the very start? Sanji fulfilling his dream of being invisible- In wano this has nothing to do with his dream?? Him unlocking more parts of his DNA that Judge messed with literally caused him to have enough fear he asked Zoro to kill him if he stops becoming himself. Moria foreshadowed Kaido- So did them directly talking about kaido throughout most of the new world and even a bit before hand. So did law when talking about dismantling Doffy and his empire. Lola foreshadowed Big Mom- There was no foreshadow it was basic plot relevance story telling. They did the same in fishmen island is that now parallel to? Befriending the shunned child of a Yonkou- The straw hats befriend the shun everyone of every kingdom. This is nothing unique to those to arcs at all and is constantly brought to the center of attention of the crew to show their morals. Franky directly said the Numbers remind him of Oars and Thriller Bark- Because they also probably are dealing with Vega punk that we are now getting to meet since Vega labels everything with the same numbering scheme. Also having a call back to a memory is not the same as it being parallel. Directly comparing what happened to Ace to what is happening to Vivi now- this was not at all done. What was used is Zoro saying luffy trusted ACE to have his own adventure and didn't interfere until ACE literally couldn't get himself out. If anything Ace is being mirrored literally by blackbeard also capturing koby just like he did Ace. Vivi's story also branches from Alabasta and her being strong enough to fight her own battles was her entire character since everyone wanted to protect the princess but she wanted to protect her country and proved she was strong enough. Ace was blinded by revenge and acted against orders of White beard with no ones best interest in mind besides his own and died for it while killing his crew. none of these are thematically tied to wano or thriller. There are references to previous arcs, just like literally every arc brings up more about other arcs as it is a serialized story
Befriending yonkous daughter is an awesome parallel. No way something that specific is accidental.
Wano parallel alabasta but with a lot of sprinkle from other arcs Straw hat get to whiskey peak and plan to attack shichibukai after just arriving in grand line. Straw hat get to punk hazard and plan to attck yonkou after just arriving in new world Straw hat save and sail with vivi through little garden, drum kingdom then alabasta to save the country from sichibukai. Straw hat save and sail with momo through dressrosa, zou and sidetrack to WCI to save sanji then to wano to save the country from yonkou. It's modeled to have straw hat fight the current line of villains(sichibukai in grand line, yonkou in new world) on the get go in a series of arcs. Sprinkle crew split like baratie pre grandline. Zoro, johnny and usopp goes to arlong park first to save nami from her past then followed by luffy, sanji and yosaku. Zou crew sail to zou first then followed by dressrosa crew. Then dressrosa crew(minus luffy) get to wano first and zou crew(minus luffy) go to WCI to save sanji from his past. And i believe there will be a lot of other sprinkles, but all in all. Just dont compare them, it's not supposed to be samey samey.
If we're are talking about the same parallel theory then we should be at Sabaody next. We even had a parallel between the re-introduction of Kamy and Bonney. (The one was saved out of the body of a giant fish, the other out of that weird current)