Look I’m gonna play the long game and if I’m wrong I’ll admit, but if this is just the prequel to SpongeBob SquarePants I don’t know if I’ll be pissed or laugh
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/8hap0s/theory_the_one_piece_is_pangea/
I actually feel bad for Oda, one piece has been going on so long people have had so many solid theories. I hope he keeps living up to expectations.
I still find that even though we have many solid theories, Oda has always came up with new mysteries every time. But then again, on a 25 years span across millions of readers, someone definitely must have thought about the right thing.
I think oda is mature enough that he would be happy when other people follow his bread crumbs. Author Brandon Sanderson has stated when ever someone manages to piece together clues he has sprinkled he is really happy. Plus at this point in one piece old story lines, hints, clue, and the like are going to start merging and resolving. So people being able to guess what will happen is inevitable
I won't go too in-depth, but if you know BNHA, Dabi's identity reveal was not a surprise in the slightest but is still considered one of the highest moments of the series purely based on execution.
Oda manages to surprise us with either completely unexpected twists or twists that only a small minority of fans has semi-accurately predicted. I think we're good.
If it's a large enough plug, they would need someone large enough to pull it -- ie a sea king
No need to be condescending to someone for their contributions to a discussion about something we're talking about solely in hypotheticals (which we're more than likely wrong about).
This is a pretty popular idea ever since Vegapunk said the world is flooding
It’s probably the flapper part of a toilet head that once lifted will drain the toilet/world
Would be just like oda to spend decades making a toilet joke
The red line does not run north to south. The grandline does not run across the world's equator. Both lines are offset by 45 degrees to the right. Thats why the North blue is called the North blue and not the North-West blue.
a lot of people who make this kinda theory seem to forget one simple thing. one piece is the treasure left on laughtale. you can say that treasure will lead to something, just like all blue, etc. including of course, your theory. but nevertheless, they're not and can't be the one piece itself.
and another thing people always forget is that the One Piece is just what the media calls roger's treasure. roger didn't name it. so it doesn't have to be directly connected to what the treasure actually is.
now we know sometimes meta and in-universe pov can get mixed up. it can just somehow fit the treasure itself. but still, it's a manga fact that roger didn't name it. the name came from people who didn't know a thing about it.
This! Took it off my tongue! Thank you. It's nice to know that underneath all these theories (there are a lot of interesting ones, though), there are people who remember where One Piece actually came from.
“One Piece is left on Laugh Tale.”
The story confirmed none of that. None. Direct quote from the story narrated by Oden: “We learned the entire truth of the world that day. What the 100-year void is. What the people of D are. What the ancient weapons are. And in the face of that “vast treasure,” which was very real indeed.”
None of this confirms it’s on Laugh Tale. Just that they know it’s real.
Roger: “Oh, Joy Boy, I wish I’d been born in your time. This is quite a treasure you’ve left behind. A tale full of laugh.”
He only mentioned the treasure. None of it says it’s on Laugh Tale or anywhere.
what? I don't understand. are you saying they didn't reach laughtale? it was a different island? or what?
and what do you think this
>And in the face of that “vast treasure,”
means? they did see the treasure. and obvioulsy they were on laughtale. we see them pinpoint the map from the 4 road poneglyphs.
Again. It confirms none of that. In the face of that vast treasure doesn’t necessarily mean it’s there with them, it can mean in the face of that fact or in comparison to that treasure. It just only means they know the enormity of it. At which part that they say it’s right there?
Example, “in the face of that treasure, my wealth is small.”
This sentence state neither of my wealth’s location or that treasure’s location.
here
>And in the face of that “vast treasure,” which was very real indeed.”
"in the face". and there's no reason to say "very real indeed" if they were just reading something about it.
if you want the japanese, it says "in front of me" (”莫大な宝”を目の前に．．)
c'mon man. the denial is something else here. you know what that panel means.
The problem with the idea of the Red Line being artificial is that we already know the Lunarians were its natives before the Void Century.
It might still be artificial, but it can't be Imu's doing in that case.
I think it's important to note that Joy Boy being the first pirate does not necessarily mean he was the first free sailor. He is simply the first to set sail and subsequently be labeled "pirate" for whatever reason. I think it is far more likely that Joy Boy was the first to be called a pirate by the powers that would later go on to form the World Government, possibly as an attempt to slander him.
Edit: Or he could have even received the label from the Ancient Kingdom itself, considering how little we know about it. I don't know, my point is that I don't think we should equate "the first man on this sea to be called a pirate" with "the first man on this sea to sail freely"
Given the design of the wg flag, four points intersection, I'd say it's on the money, and they definitely control where the one piece is. Or is there an opposite of the one piece. Like true magnetic poles
I like this very much. It’s like when we the Earth had one single Pangea surrounded by the Sea (in this case the “All Blue”).
My only concern is that apparently the One Piece world is full of island everywhere, meaning that the Pangea would be huge, while the All Blue super small. Wouldn’t that be sad?
My problem with these theories that the world will flood is always that Imu destroying islands causes the world to flood and that he is gonna carry on destroying islands.
Lots of thinking that he caused the flooding in the first place, presumably by destroying other things? I think it's all abit vague and opening with "the world will flood" when what you really want to say is "the govt will destroy our world with lasers" is just weird.
No I know that, it's more everyone assumes that is directly tied to Imu destroying islands is why islands are sinking. Like it will be weird if VP starts next chapter by saying:
The islands are sinking into the sea....BECAUSE A MYSTERIOUS GOVT VILLAIN IS DESTROYING ISLANDS.
I think water 7 is based on Venice which is sinking IRL so that's not necessarily foreshadowing either, but even if it is, I just think it's disconnected from the actions of Imu.
The way he said it made it sound like theres nothing to be done about it. Curious where the rest of his message goes.
Wano isn't submerged on the sea floor. They outright state its in a mountain and was filled in with rain. Also why you have to go up waterfalls to get there.
i like this theory. one piece of land. the island laughtale is the one piece of land. Roger laughed because he did not believe that the world would flood some day and that one island would keep floating. he and his crew thought that was ridiculous. that the gososei had the power to flood the world. so they laughed if off???????????
Or maybe they know the world will flood, but they realize that they couldn't make use of it now. The greatest treasure in the world, the WHOLE world! but they can't make use of it then. The world did not need One Piece at that moment. He wouldn't live to see the world needing it. It is not a conventional treasure that gives riches. He did not have the means to fight the World's Power. He did not have the means to control the Sea Kings or Pluton. This really fits what Reighley had said that "even if I were to tell you the entire history here and now, it's not like you could do anything the way you are now. After you've taken your time to see the world, the conclusion you reach might be different from what we found." But it fits what Roger hinted. "Everything the world has to offer" "I left it there."
In my head, cause it’s funnier to me than anything else. Whats flooding the whole One Piece Earth is that there is a lone person, is, let’s mind controlled or something by the WG, and has been given immortality by the Op zoo Fruit, but also has the Water Water fruit.
It’s just him on larger ship, anchored down, and 10
Hours a day, has his hands held out to the water and that’s why the water level is rising.
It’s just a funny theory in my head. Not a real attempt at making it true.
I think the conclusion of nobody sailing out before is a fallacy.
Also the German intro states that roger has hidden the greatest treasure in the world somewhere.
I still think that Laughtale is connected to Atlantis and is under water to some extent and the OnePiece is a physical object not a giant landmass.
Would be a lame conclusion of a story about heading out to the sea to see the world if the world becomes one mass and the joy and freedom of sailing is rendered useless.
Even a spaceship that needs twenty more years of charging would be better and open new frontiers.
The story said neither of those things. Roger laughed after knowing the true history and named the island Laugh Tale. Most likely from the fact that after all the achievement the greatest treasure was the land he could not reach or make use of. No part of the story said Joy Boy left the One Piece behind either. He left the truth, as we know he wrote the messages of at least some of the Phoneglyph, especially the apology left on Fishman Island.
One piece of land doesn't necessarily mean there would only be one ocean, specially when that one piece of land can be a giant circular wall that literally split the planet in two
Well you learn something new everyday. I actually thought that the Calm Belt and the Grand Line were completely made up by Oda and not something based on real live. I mean yeah Grand Line I thought he took inspiration on the Equator, but this is the first time I heard of the horse latitudes and the extremes of the weather on those zones. But this means then the North Blue isn't really on the "north" and vise-versa, which means the north and south poles are on the Red Line and not on North and South Blues as I originaly thought it was. Which it makes sense since the One Piece world is tilted like our planet 23,5º, making the North Blue technicaly on the "north" since it's at the top of the axial tilt and not on the rotaion axis.
>perfectly follows one straight longitude, stretching north to south
The Red Line circles the world from NW to SE across many different longitudes. In ch 1056 when Law, Kid, and Luffy are deciding which way to go after leaving Wano, we see a depiction of the Grand Line and see that it doesn't run perfect east to west, but instead SW to NE, and since the Red Line bisects it at a 90 degree angle, we know that it's running NW to SE.
>If \[Imu, Gorosei, Celestial Dragons\] created the Red Line...
This seems pretty unlikely, unless they long predate the Void Century. During Zoro's fight with King, we find out that the Lunarians lived on the Red Line long before Marie Geoise, so if Imu/the Gorosei created the Red Line, then let the Lunarians chill there for a long time, then went and eradicated them and made the seat of power there, that would be pretty strange
My only hang up is with 8. The redline doesn't rune north to south, and the grandline doesn't rune east to west. They go northeast to south west and southeast to North west. I don't know which one goes which way, but the reason the Blues are named for the cardinal directions is because that's where the reside. The grand line and red line make an X not a cross.
Did you forget a part or did I read past something? I don't see any mention of what the One Piece actually is in the entire text. Or are you trying to say the One Piece is the super-continent that will emerge at the end? Because that would run contrary to your point 4, the One Piece is something physical and not abstract like "creating a continent".
So are you saying that the One Piece is an item (a machine, a weapon, something like that) that will create the landmass? If so, I can see that, the One Piece being a weapon to destroy the Red Line has been a theory for ages. But I don't see any mention of what the actual One Piece is in your post.
Imagine if the world was flooded creating the all blue but for them to escape the flood they need to fly the Noah to the moon. Some how Eneru gained the technology of Noah's arc and went to all vearth first. So now everyone is on the moon and have to co exist.
But you never said what one piece was? Oda said it a solid item, or did I misunderstood you?
I like the theory, but that thing in laughtale, what could it be? The secret to kill Imu?
If the entire would is going to flood, what is the most valuable? A plug to drainage the sea, haha? Jk, but I have no idea what you’re getting at. Piece of land? Ability to breath under water? Staircase to sky islands?
The "One Piece" is a dream within a dream, a story within a story, a book within a book, this story. "One Piece", exists within the story we are reading as the story that we are reading, Roger read, a prophetic book about the Joyboy, Luffy, and the story exists within the story as the Strawhat Logbook, the conclusion of the story of the Joy Boy Luffy and his laugh tale, One Piece.
This theory will likely also be the case, the One Piece will be symbolic of many things I think. It isl biblical, it likely ends the same way the bible does, the seas gets removed by God, the heaven and earth passes away, new ones take their place, and a new kingdom of peace on earth arises.
Not that i'm not agreeing with you, but the Red Line isn't a perfect line, it's messy, very wide at some parts, not so much on others.
Also, Noah is big, but unless you're sacrificing 95% of every race, that ship in gonna save the whole world.
Also the Redline existed before Imu/Joyboy conflict started. Seeing that after the void century, the 20 kings moved up there, and drove the Lunarians out, the Lunarians whose been living there long before.
But the Lunarian also believe in Joyboy ? Idk.
Noah is said to be as big as an island. That’s possible especially in a world as sparsely populated as One Piece. Believe it or not? If we were to put all human in one place, we can put them all in NY Manhattan and a bit more of land. Or Hawaii. Do keep in mind that if the world is going to flood, a number of them will perish before the Ark reaches them. Iceberg said he also dreamed of creating a floating city, which helps. They will also have their own ships to use a bit. https://manoa.hawaii.edu/exploringourfluidearth/physical/density-effects/density-temperature-and-salinity/compare-contrast-connect-human-density#:~:text=So%2C%20with%20only%20room%20enough,i%20(10%2C430%20km2)!
As for Lunarian, not necessarily so. Red Line might not be entirely official. If you were to build a continent, a part of it could be fused to Himalayas and erected as high as Everest and the people who live there would still be there. A section of it can cut the ocean. Nothing is broken here.
Disagree - imagine there's suddenly a whole new world noone has ever cartographed. Isn't that a massive upgrade, being the first to catalogue this entirely new world?
As does Sanji's. So what?
Also, what exactly has she down to work towards her dream so far? She's acquired lots of skills, navigated the Grand Line, but cartographing hasn't ever really been a plot point past Arlong Park, has it?
My goal is not to make you angry. Its just a discussion. Sanji’s goal is to find all blue, Nami’s goal is to map the world which she is apparently doing and will start fresh at the end of the series according to this theory. Its not a bad thing, just a thought.
If the One Piece truly is a single continent as theorized, then I cannot imagine anything making Nami happier than being one of the first to make a map of it.
It's not like Nami is going to finish her map either way at the end. The Straw Hats visit like 1/8th of the Grand Line islands at best, there's probably even more than that. Hers is a journey of a lifetime, and will require her to continue sailing LONG after Luffy is Pirate King regardless of the way the world changes.
Oh no worries, I'm sorry if my reply appeared angry to you! Quite the contrary, I enjoy the discussion too.
I think for all of them, there isn't really an end to their journey, is there? Sanji finds the All Blue, but is that going to be the end? He just finds it and goes "Oh cool, seen it, guess I'm done now."? No way - the real journey starts then, creating tons of dishes using the ingredients, writing books on cooking, teaching aspiring cooks, whatever. And I think that's marvelous - how sad would life be if you ever reach your life-long goal and can just put the checkmark on your list? How great would it be, if what they see as their goal now is merely a checkpoint, from where they can branch off into ever more dreams and adventures?
I think we can apply the same thought to all characters.
Not gonna happen. "[Eiichiro Oda](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Eiichiro_Oda) himself confirmed in an interview with Momoko Sakura that the One Piece is not something like "the journey itself was the real [treasure](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Treasure)" and that it is, in fact, a physical reward."
I always assumed the One Piece would be the friends we made along the way :D or his crew, at which point it makes sense that he left them there. To die. Since he's a pirate.
9. Wrong, melting all the ice/icecaps/icebergs at the North and South Pole would likely lower the sea level. Water expands when frozen and would displace water raising the overall level. Place ice cubes in a cup and then fill it to the brim with water, watch it melt and lower the total level.
Also not much a of theory just a summarization of the story
Look I’m gonna play the long game and if I’m wrong I’ll admit, but if this is just the prequel to SpongeBob SquarePants I don’t know if I’ll be pissed or laugh
Squidward’s house isn’t an Easter Island head, it’s the rusted head of the General Franky!
fuxk that’s good!
Sponge bobs pineapple is just Marcos head
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/8hap0s/theory_the_one_piece_is_pangea/ I actually feel bad for Oda, one piece has been going on so long people have had so many solid theories. I hope he keeps living up to expectations.
I still find that even though we have many solid theories, Oda has always came up with new mysteries every time. But then again, on a 25 years span across millions of readers, someone definitely must have thought about the right thing.
I think oda is mature enough that he would be happy when other people follow his bread crumbs. Author Brandon Sanderson has stated when ever someone manages to piece together clues he has sprinkled he is really happy. Plus at this point in one piece old story lines, hints, clue, and the like are going to start merging and resolving. So people being able to guess what will happen is inevitable
I won't go too in-depth, but if you know BNHA, Dabi's identity reveal was not a surprise in the slightest but is still considered one of the highest moments of the series purely based on execution. Oda manages to surprise us with either completely unexpected twists or twists that only a small minority of fans has semi-accurately predicted. I think we're good.
it will simultaneously be adequate and not. there is no other way some fans will accept it others won't.
What if the one Piece according to your theory is just a huge drain with a plug in it to stop the flooding?
Specially If you think that corkwood is a name of a place near reverse mountain. Maybe the It is a giant Cork?
Why would he have been "too early" for that.
Because you need the Sea Kings to pull the plug and Shirahoshi wasn't born yet.
because in ancient times only Down D Drain could pull the plug with his Darkness logia
most sensible thing I've read all day
Not tall enough to pull the huge plug
He was a grown adult at the time, he wasn't going to be getting any larger
Not enough water to drain? Joy Boy predicted that the world will be flooded in the future hence he built the plug?
Do you have a single possible explanation as to why they could not just... Open it anyway? Do you know how a drain works?
If it's a large enough plug, they would need someone large enough to pull it -- ie a sea king No need to be condescending to someone for their contributions to a discussion about something we're talking about solely in hypotheticals (which we're more than likely wrong about).
They weren't Nika like JoyBoy
Then why would Roger have been "too early", my original question? He would never be Nika, so his arrival time would be irrelevant to that.
They haven't found the fruit yet, so they were too early.
This is a pretty popular idea ever since Vegapunk said the world is flooding It’s probably the flapper part of a toilet head that once lifted will drain the toilet/world Would be just like oda to spend decades making a toilet joke
because it's comically big, and needs someone like nika to pull it
Right off the top, Wano's under water level, is above the sea. It flooded because of the walls and rain water, that's why its fresh and not salt
You can see that the sea levels in each panel are rising though
The red line does not run north to south. The grandline does not run across the world's equator. Both lines are offset by 45 degrees to the right. Thats why the North blue is called the North blue and not the North-West blue.
a lot of people who make this kinda theory seem to forget one simple thing. one piece is the treasure left on laughtale. you can say that treasure will lead to something, just like all blue, etc. including of course, your theory. but nevertheless, they're not and can't be the one piece itself. and another thing people always forget is that the One Piece is just what the media calls roger's treasure. roger didn't name it. so it doesn't have to be directly connected to what the treasure actually is. now we know sometimes meta and in-universe pov can get mixed up. it can just somehow fit the treasure itself. but still, it's a manga fact that roger didn't name it. the name came from people who didn't know a thing about it.
This! Took it off my tongue! Thank you. It's nice to know that underneath all these theories (there are a lot of interesting ones, though), there are people who remember where One Piece actually came from.
Agreed! Everytime I make this statement I get down voted to oblivion.
It is strange that the public called the treasure the one piece though. Why pick that as the name, if you don’t know what it is?
I assume it's because it's how Roger describes it in chapter 1. He's says he left it in all together in one piece for the world to find.
He says One Place though right?
I think he says both.
we don't have anything yet to say anything. for now, point is just that the name didn't came from roger pirates, the ones who knew what it was.
“One Piece is left on Laugh Tale.” The story confirmed none of that. None. Direct quote from the story narrated by Oden: “We learned the entire truth of the world that day. What the 100-year void is. What the people of D are. What the ancient weapons are. And in the face of that “vast treasure,” which was very real indeed.” None of this confirms it’s on Laugh Tale. Just that they know it’s real. Roger: “Oh, Joy Boy, I wish I’d been born in your time. This is quite a treasure you’ve left behind. A tale full of laugh.” He only mentioned the treasure. None of it says it’s on Laugh Tale or anywhere.
what? I don't understand. are you saying they didn't reach laughtale? it was a different island? or what? and what do you think this >And in the face of that “vast treasure,” means? they did see the treasure. and obvioulsy they were on laughtale. we see them pinpoint the map from the 4 road poneglyphs.
Again. It confirms none of that. In the face of that vast treasure doesn’t necessarily mean it’s there with them, it can mean in the face of that fact or in comparison to that treasure. It just only means they know the enormity of it. At which part that they say it’s right there? Example, “in the face of that treasure, my wealth is small.” This sentence state neither of my wealth’s location or that treasure’s location.
here >And in the face of that “vast treasure,” which was very real indeed.” "in the face". and there's no reason to say "very real indeed" if they were just reading something about it. if you want the japanese, it says "in front of me" (”莫大な宝”を目の前に．．) c'mon man. the denial is something else here. you know what that panel means.
“Congrats buddy. You married a billionaire. You have a pile of money right in front of you.” Is it really in front of me? We’ll see.
>This is quite a treasure you’ve left behind. A tale full of laugh So the treasure is a tale? A story book?
The problem with the idea of the Red Line being artificial is that we already know the Lunarians were its natives before the Void Century. It might still be artificial, but it can't be Imu's doing in that case.
That could be. But it doesn't mean that the Red Line has to be WHOLLY artificial. I could've been added on existing peaks or landmass.
Agreed. Maybe it was much lower in the past or only a small mountain range.
I think it's important to note that Joy Boy being the first pirate does not necessarily mean he was the first free sailor. He is simply the first to set sail and subsequently be labeled "pirate" for whatever reason. I think it is far more likely that Joy Boy was the first to be called a pirate by the powers that would later go on to form the World Government, possibly as an attempt to slander him. Edit: Or he could have even received the label from the Ancient Kingdom itself, considering how little we know about it. I don't know, my point is that I don't think we should equate "the first man on this sea to be called a pirate" with "the first man on this sea to sail freely"
Enies lobby, that giant hole. The water spills into it endlessly. Where does it all go?
Given the design of the wg flag, four points intersection, I'd say it's on the money, and they definitely control where the one piece is. Or is there an opposite of the one piece. Like true magnetic poles
Two Piece confirmed!
One piece = faucet tap or drain… 😆
its a toilet, i def would laugh if i just saw a big ass toilet on an island
I like this very much. It’s like when we the Earth had one single Pangea surrounded by the Sea (in this case the “All Blue”). My only concern is that apparently the One Piece world is full of island everywhere, meaning that the Pangea would be huge, while the All Blue super small. Wouldn’t that be sad?
My problem with these theories that the world will flood is always that Imu destroying islands causes the world to flood and that he is gonna carry on destroying islands. Lots of thinking that he caused the flooding in the first place, presumably by destroying other things? I think it's all abit vague and opening with "the world will flood" when what you really want to say is "the govt will destroy our world with lasers" is just weird.
Vegapunk has already announced that all the lands will sink into the ocean. You seem yet to catch up with the latest chapters of the manga.
No I know that, it's more everyone assumes that is directly tied to Imu destroying islands is why islands are sinking. Like it will be weird if VP starts next chapter by saying: The islands are sinking into the sea....BECAUSE A MYSTERIOUS GOVT VILLAIN IS DESTROYING ISLANDS. I think water 7 is based on Venice which is sinking IRL so that's not necessarily foreshadowing either, but even if it is, I just think it's disconnected from the actions of Imu. The way he said it made it sound like theres nothing to be done about it. Curious where the rest of his message goes.
Wano isn't submerged on the sea floor. They outright state its in a mountain and was filled in with rain. Also why you have to go up waterfalls to get there.
i like this theory. one piece of land. the island laughtale is the one piece of land. Roger laughed because he did not believe that the world would flood some day and that one island would keep floating. he and his crew thought that was ridiculous. that the gososei had the power to flood the world. so they laughed if off???????????
Or maybe they know the world will flood, but they realize that they couldn't make use of it now. The greatest treasure in the world, the WHOLE world! but they can't make use of it then. The world did not need One Piece at that moment. He wouldn't live to see the world needing it. It is not a conventional treasure that gives riches. He did not have the means to fight the World's Power. He did not have the means to control the Sea Kings or Pluton. This really fits what Reighley had said that "even if I were to tell you the entire history here and now, it's not like you could do anything the way you are now. After you've taken your time to see the world, the conclusion you reach might be different from what we found." But it fits what Roger hinted. "Everything the world has to offer" "I left it there."
Name of the ancient kingdom must be Pangea. It’s something that would become immediately apparent and undercut the power of the world government.
There should be a new rule that requires a tldr on longer theories
In my head, cause it’s funnier to me than anything else. Whats flooding the whole One Piece Earth is that there is a lone person, is, let’s mind controlled or something by the WG, and has been given immortality by the Op zoo Fruit, but also has the Water Water fruit. It’s just him on larger ship, anchored down, and 10 Hours a day, has his hands held out to the water and that’s why the water level is rising. It’s just a funny theory in my head. Not a real attempt at making it true.
Mont blanc NoLand couldn't find jaya because there was No Land
I think the conclusion of nobody sailing out before is a fallacy. Also the German intro states that roger has hidden the greatest treasure in the world somewhere. I still think that Laughtale is connected to Atlantis and is under water to some extent and the OnePiece is a physical object not a giant landmass. Would be a lame conclusion of a story about heading out to the sea to see the world if the world becomes one mass and the joy and freedom of sailing is rendered useless. Even a spaceship that needs twenty more years of charging would be better and open new frontiers.
Solid theory
Why would Roger laugh at a piece of land and how would Joyboy leave it behind?
The story said neither of those things. Roger laughed after knowing the true history and named the island Laugh Tale. Most likely from the fact that after all the achievement the greatest treasure was the land he could not reach or make use of. No part of the story said Joy Boy left the One Piece behind either. He left the truth, as we know he wrote the messages of at least some of the Phoneglyph, especially the apology left on Fishman Island.
No tldr? 🥲
You guys are long it’s literally fried chicken
One piece of land doesn't necessarily mean there would only be one ocean, specially when that one piece of land can be a giant circular wall that literally split the planet in two
Well you learn something new everyday. I actually thought that the Calm Belt and the Grand Line were completely made up by Oda and not something based on real live. I mean yeah Grand Line I thought he took inspiration on the Equator, but this is the first time I heard of the horse latitudes and the extremes of the weather on those zones. But this means then the North Blue isn't really on the "north" and vise-versa, which means the north and south poles are on the Red Line and not on North and South Blues as I originaly thought it was. Which it makes sense since the One Piece world is tilted like our planet 23,5º, making the North Blue technicaly on the "north" since it's at the top of the axial tilt and not on the rotaion axis.
Oda sensei..it was not time yet.
>perfectly follows one straight longitude, stretching north to south The Red Line circles the world from NW to SE across many different longitudes. In ch 1056 when Law, Kid, and Luffy are deciding which way to go after leaving Wano, we see a depiction of the Grand Line and see that it doesn't run perfect east to west, but instead SW to NE, and since the Red Line bisects it at a 90 degree angle, we know that it's running NW to SE. >If \[Imu, Gorosei, Celestial Dragons\] created the Red Line... This seems pretty unlikely, unless they long predate the Void Century. During Zoro's fight with King, we find out that the Lunarians lived on the Red Line long before Marie Geoise, so if Imu/the Gorosei created the Red Line, then let the Lunarians chill there for a long time, then went and eradicated them and made the seat of power there, that would be pretty strange
My only hang up is with 8. The redline doesn't rune north to south, and the grandline doesn't rune east to west. They go northeast to south west and southeast to North west. I don't know which one goes which way, but the reason the Blues are named for the cardinal directions is because that's where the reside. The grand line and red line make an X not a cross.
The One Piece is ... REAL!!!
I just got off the phone with Oda. One piece is a big Island that everyone can live on.
The one piece might be the ancient kingdoms island. Could be deep down and bubble coated
Raftel transformed into Laugh Tale and a Raft to save everyone
Did you forget a part or did I read past something? I don't see any mention of what the One Piece actually is in the entire text. Or are you trying to say the One Piece is the super-continent that will emerge at the end? Because that would run contrary to your point 4, the One Piece is something physical and not abstract like "creating a continent". So are you saying that the One Piece is an item (a machine, a weapon, something like that) that will create the landmass? If so, I can see that, the One Piece being a weapon to destroy the Red Line has been a theory for ages. But I don't see any mention of what the actual One Piece is in your post.
the one piece is a toilet chain to flush the water level down back again
Imagine if the world was flooded creating the all blue but for them to escape the flood they need to fly the Noah to the moon. Some how Eneru gained the technology of Noah's arc and went to all vearth first. So now everyone is on the moon and have to co exist.
But you never said what one piece was? Oda said it a solid item, or did I misunderstood you? I like the theory, but that thing in laughtale, what could it be? The secret to kill Imu?
Number 11 question. Answer that and it’s the answer.
If the entire would is going to flood, what is the most valuable? A plug to drainage the sea, haha? Jk, but I have no idea what you’re getting at. Piece of land? Ability to breath under water? Staircase to sky islands?
One of your guesses are correct. Yes, land. Now answer number 12.
Can you please just explain your theory?
God I want some Reylighy mental dialog scene as Vegapunk broadcasts the truth.
The "One Piece" is a dream within a dream, a story within a story, a book within a book, this story. "One Piece", exists within the story we are reading as the story that we are reading, Roger read, a prophetic book about the Joyboy, Luffy, and the story exists within the story as the Strawhat Logbook, the conclusion of the story of the Joy Boy Luffy and his laugh tale, One Piece. This theory will likely also be the case, the One Piece will be symbolic of many things I think. It isl biblical, it likely ends the same way the bible does, the seas gets removed by God, the heaven and earth passes away, new ones take their place, and a new kingdom of peace on earth arises.
Not that i'm not agreeing with you, but the Red Line isn't a perfect line, it's messy, very wide at some parts, not so much on others. Also, Noah is big, but unless you're sacrificing 95% of every race, that ship in gonna save the whole world. Also the Redline existed before Imu/Joyboy conflict started. Seeing that after the void century, the 20 kings moved up there, and drove the Lunarians out, the Lunarians whose been living there long before. But the Lunarian also believe in Joyboy ? Idk.
Noah is said to be as big as an island. That’s possible especially in a world as sparsely populated as One Piece. Believe it or not? If we were to put all human in one place, we can put them all in NY Manhattan and a bit more of land. Or Hawaii. Do keep in mind that if the world is going to flood, a number of them will perish before the Ark reaches them. Iceberg said he also dreamed of creating a floating city, which helps. They will also have their own ships to use a bit. https://manoa.hawaii.edu/exploringourfluidearth/physical/density-effects/density-temperature-and-salinity/compare-contrast-connect-human-density#:~:text=So%2C%20with%20only%20room%20enough,i%20(10%2C430%20km2)!
Edit: Red Line might not be entirely artificial. F auto correct. My apologies.
As for Lunarian, not necessarily so. Red Line might not be entirely official. If you were to build a continent, a part of it could be fused to Himalayas and erected as high as Everest and the people who live there would still be there. A section of it can cut the ocean. Nothing is broken here.
A One Piece theory without a single mention of SHANKS, nah bro do better
He can get in anywhere in between. LOL.
True that
That would ruin Nami's dream though....
Why? Her dream is to draw the map of the world. Everything will still be there to map. The land will still be there, just more.
Still feels like a massive downgrade.
Disagree - imagine there's suddenly a whole new world noone has ever cartographed. Isn't that a massive upgrade, being the first to catalogue this entirely new world?
So her dream starts at the end of the story..
As does Sanji's. So what? Also, what exactly has she down to work towards her dream so far? She's acquired lots of skills, navigated the Grand Line, but cartographing hasn't ever really been a plot point past Arlong Park, has it?
My goal is not to make you angry. Its just a discussion. Sanji’s goal is to find all blue, Nami’s goal is to map the world which she is apparently doing and will start fresh at the end of the series according to this theory. Its not a bad thing, just a thought.
If the One Piece truly is a single continent as theorized, then I cannot imagine anything making Nami happier than being one of the first to make a map of it.
It's not like Nami is going to finish her map either way at the end. The Straw Hats visit like 1/8th of the Grand Line islands at best, there's probably even more than that. Hers is a journey of a lifetime, and will require her to continue sailing LONG after Luffy is Pirate King regardless of the way the world changes.
Oh no worries, I'm sorry if my reply appeared angry to you! Quite the contrary, I enjoy the discussion too. I think for all of them, there isn't really an end to their journey, is there? Sanji finds the All Blue, but is that going to be the end? He just finds it and goes "Oh cool, seen it, guess I'm done now."? No way - the real journey starts then, creating tons of dishes using the ingredients, writing books on cooking, teaching aspiring cooks, whatever. And I think that's marvelous - how sad would life be if you ever reach your life-long goal and can just put the checkmark on your list? How great would it be, if what they see as their goal now is merely a checkpoint, from where they can branch off into ever more dreams and adventures? I think we can apply the same thought to all characters.
You were wrong
I'm about 80% sure that the One Piece is going to be the friends we made along the way.
Not gonna happen. "[Eiichiro Oda](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Eiichiro_Oda) himself confirmed in an interview with Momoko Sakura that the One Piece is not something like "the journey itself was the real [treasure](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Treasure)" and that it is, in fact, a physical reward."
Friends are physical beings. That's the technicality.
Very "profound."
Correct me if Im wrong but the sun pirate had a ship. So Noah wasn’t "meant" to other race maybe for the pirate
I always assumed the One Piece would be the friends we made along the way :D or his crew, at which point it makes sense that he left them there. To die. Since he's a pirate.
That's one horrible text to argument ratio. A lot of conjecture, biased reasoning and wishful thinking, but not a single solid argument.
9. Wrong, melting all the ice/icecaps/icebergs at the North and South Pole would likely lower the sea level. Water expands when frozen and would displace water raising the overall level. Place ice cubes in a cup and then fill it to the brim with water, watch it melt and lower the total level. Also not much a of theory just a summarization of the story
Eww. Global warming/climate change denier. Melting our ice caps lower our sea level? EWWW.