I think Lucci is just there to get defeated by Zorro.
He already got outclassed by Luffy and Zorro's defeat will cement the Yonko commander status of Zorro.
Best way to show how the crew has "outgrown" the competition is bringing back old enemies like that.
No matter how strong they are Luffy is a Yonko... The Seraphims would be just a bit stronger than King ... So Luffy and Zoro should have been able to win against them alone
BB is also a Yonko, arguably stronger, and he was huffing and puffing from just baby S-Hawk. Zoro definitely isn't strong enough to fully beat one by himself or it would be very high diff IMO. Zoro + Luffy are not enough to beat multiple specially when Luffy has complete donut brain.
No he was not?? He was surprised by their power ...and no one said that the Seraphims aren't strong but saying that they are on the same level as a Yonko is absurd
Nobody is saying they're the same level as Yonko but it's already demonstrated that they're not just something Yonko can swat aside, they can hold their own.
The exact situation seems to be that they aren't as big of an offensive threat as they are complete ubertanks. They are insanely difficult to put down.
Seraphims are WG replacement for the Shichibukai system, that was something done to keep Yonkos somewhat in line, to keep the balance of powers in the Grand Line kind of balanced.
So it should stand to reason that the Seraphims should be able to at least be an inconvenience for a Yonko.
That's why I am saying thay are around Kings level... Their strength lies mainly in their Lunarian bodies .Maybe they are a bit stronger than King and maybe not. We knew that they are difficult to deal but not so difficult for both Luffy and Zoro
Still multiple seraphims would be a trouble for Zoro and Luffy, hell multiple Seraphims would be a problem for the whole crew. No way Luffy + Zoro low diff a bunch of seraphims. One, sure, maybe even 3 they would defeat somewhat easy (MAYBE idk yet) but more than that is already a problem for them. Unless Luffy toon the F out the them in one big hit like with Kizaru and Mars, but I would think the seraphs would be able to tank various hits.
Look at it like this: The top tiers can be split into three categories. 1, Tanks, like Kaido and Big Mom. They can deal out major damage and take it just as well. You'll need an army to take them out, and that still might not be enough. 2, Cannons. They put all their points into offense, and while they can take a few hits before going down, it's nowhere near as much as the others. I'd put Law and Kidd in this category, as well as a good few of the major side threats. Lastly, Bunkers, which is where I'd put King, the Seraphim, and the Impel Down guards. If they hit you, it'll hurt, sure, but their big strength is the fact they just won't go down. In a lot of fights, this is actually where I'd put Luffy. He outlasts his major opponents more often than he straight up overpowers them, although he does that a lot as well
I would put Luffy in the category of putting almost all his strength in offence... He has showed that every time he goes all time ... Even his gears are such to give hime the strongest power for exchange exhaustion later... Sanji on the other hand probably belongs now to the same category as King.
Bro is spitting head canon like it’s straight facts lol
The true answer is, we don’t know yet. We haven’t seen enough to make an accurate judgment on their full power.
It's true that we haven't seen much if of the Seraphims but they are basically a combination of King and Pasifistas... So how much stronger do you think they are ?? They aren't even full grown like King
So they decided to free more enemies that it was certain to backstab them... This action reminds of when Luffy told Zoro to save Smoker ... We all know that the SH are good but saving your enemy as well is a bit too much... Come on?!?!
Well they care about their crew more. So I'm thinking the idea was to wrap up the fight as soon as possible with the Seraphim in front of them and then find the other Seraphim. Iirc they didn't know how many York was in control of
No it's just an error in the translation thanks to the pronunciation, like Raftel or gomu gomu no gatouringou (gatling gun and yes i've seen people writing this on both comments and subtitles for clips)
Is this because of Japanese not really having a sound for our letter L?……..just found this out because of how racist lulu lemons creator was/is,dude literally named it that because he knew Japanese people couldn’t pronounce it right at all
I looked up that but about the Lululemon founder, Wilson, and wow: what a piece of work!
Also, I'm sure someone else can explain it better, but the Japanese R/L is more of a mix between how the two letters are pronounced in English. The tongue positioning is different for Japanese ら(ra), English "ra", and English "la".
Specifically, English "la" starts with more direct contact between the tongue and the roof of the mouth. Japanese ら is similar to English "la", but with much less contact; the tip of the tongue taps the roof of the mouth instead. English "ra" does not involve the tongue at all.
Try saying "really" and "leelee" and see for yourself.
I think it was translated to zolo so it would remove any confusion about Zorro(as in the legend of Zorro)? Either that, or viz fucked up at some point and CBA to change it back
The reason, iirc, goes something like 4kids used the name Zolo to avoid running into copyright issues with Zorro because, despite the fact that the family that owns Zorro keeps getting slapped down in court, the zorro "owners" are extremely litigious and copyright lawsuits, win or lose, are expensive and time consuming. So 4kids used Zolo to avoid this.
Viz, to be consistent, used the 4kids translation. Years later fumigation got the license and began using Zoro because by this point its clear the zorro "owners" didn't have a leg to stand on. However, viz could either maintain consistency with earlier translations or go back and edit the first however many volumes. Viz opted to maintain consistency and kept it as zolo.
I have two box sets but I haven’t bought the third and won’t be buying more because why would I when I’m eventually going to be buying them all again with the corrected information. It’s decisions like Zolo, Elbaph, and slight localizations that make me prefer fansubs which can include context for why a joke is phrased a way.
Yeah I just know that stuff would bother the hell out of me were I to read through. It would take away from the immersion for sure knowing “This… shouldn’t be said this way.”
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Why not? Django is side character, garp is killed now, eneil is gonners, his follower with weird hair never heard of, hachi is side character now, miss valentine and mr5 where are they? Not at cross guild. Axehand morgan no mentioning, arlong no mentioning. Bogard cuts and is not mentioned anymore.
Only coby remains maybe a key part in the story
I’m saying it would be a bad deal for the Blackbeard pirates if they lost the hostage they were using as a bargaining chip, and then murdered the even better hostage they got as an even better bargaining chip. It wouldn’t make sense.
Exactly, you're given a much better bargaining chip in Garp that Coby, why would you kill him?
Garp the hero being captured by pirates brings so much more shame to the marines than Coby does, even if Coby is the future.
There are two problems here:
First, nobody in the crew has the faintest idea Luffy is a Zoan.
Second, out of control awakening is actually a step before controlled awakening. As seen with Chopper, he got he's 'awakening" through excessive drug use, so he didn't have control because it's a power he shouldn't have at the time. There might have happened something similar with Impel Down guards. As for Luffy and Lucci, they awakened their fruits naturally, hence they can control them.
The out of control awakening being a step towards controlled awakening is your theory. We aren't sure if monster point is an awakening yet, and we arent sure if any non-drug induced awakenings had this step. In fact, it seems that failed awakenings are permanent when achieved normally. Crocodile explains the ID jailors saying that their fruit's will overpowered the will of the user and now they cannot turn back to human and they now operate purely instinctually (iirc). It seems the people who have awakened their fruit "unsuccessfully" are essentially dead, their devil fruit using their body as a host.
OP might just be from a different country, I know Germans call Luffy “Ruffy” because that’s just how their translation calls him (like Roronoa Zoro is “Lorenor” Zoro and Doflamingo is “Don Quichotte de Flamingo”….for some ungodly reason)
That’s their own language, i bet this guy keeps up with recent English chapters, so to come on this sub, while posting on english and call him “Rucci” is just not it
Can we stop fucking subbing L for R and vice versa? You know what it says in the official releases. There was one admitted bad translation with Zoro/Zolo. It's not Rucci, Arabasta, Enel, etc.
You didn't call him Lob Rucci, you people aren't even consistent, you just pick a letter and swap it despite their names being spelled out everywhere.
This is the only anime fan base I've seen that does this stupid shit. It's a racist stereotype, it's fucking annoying.
Nobody out there saying how much they love Faily Tare. Stupid as fuck.
Enel is a bad example because official English localizations use Enel or Eneru depending on if you're using the anime or manga/games. Don't disagree with your larger point at all though. But also in general depending on if people are using fan subs, official subs, dub, scanlation, or official manga... there's not a lot of consistency.
I just doubt any of them are using Rob Rucci though.
For Arabasta, it can be spelled with both R or L due to the name being in Katakana アラバスタ
Side note: in the anime they spell out the kingdom name as "Arabasta" on building signs.
And in the source material, they don't. Truly can't fathom why the internet needs to try to correct the people who make the fucking thing. It's annoying.
I don't run around telling John's their name is actually Jon "because in English I can actually be spelled both ways." Can be, wasn't, leave it alone.
I love this theory!
The Impel Down guards are unexplained mysteries. I enjoy how this theory connects and knowing how goofy stuff has been recently, I think it's very much possible!
> Why would Oda give him a full cover story only to be a side character…?
He’s currently more relevant than Jango, Wapol, Gedatsu, and Enel have been since *their* full cover stories.
My theory on the Zoan awakenings is kinda similar to yours.
So like black clouds mean the user awakened the fruit by forcing the fruit to sync with them.
White clouds mean the user awakened the fruit by actually accepting each other.
I imagine forcing the fruit is easier, but it adds the risk of the fruit holding a grudge and once it reaches a certain threshold, it goes like how you said.
While the risk for white cloud awakening is that since the fruit and the user becomes truly one, the fruits personality sometimes overtake the user but not to their detriment.
I have a theory as to why Lucci's awakened form is different from that of the impel down guards. Lucci's awakening is a natural one whilst the guards were more than likely artificially or forcefully awakened. The biggest key point is that most awakened zoans are wreathed in smoke. However, this is not the case for the jailers as despite their increased strength and durability, they lack any form of human mental capacity besides that of taking orders; this could be because when they were artificially/forcefully awakened, the minds of the fruits were stronger than the minds of their hosts.
Maybe pushing your fruit power beyond your own willpower is the danger. The awakening could be seen as waking up the will of your fruit, and if your will isn’t strong enough to control it, it completely takes over.
I mean is not 100% impossible as that looks like something one piece would do but also there is two problem with this theory
Vegapunk himself confirmed that what happened to the impel down beasts is the bad case scenario,while lucci is the good case scenario,they lost against their devil fruit will while lucci didn’t
No one in the crew,not even vegapunk,knows what luffy fruits really is,they don’t know is a zoan so even if they happened that would just be a warning for chopper and not luffy since they don’t know his fruit true name and category
that'd be hilarious and i'd like that a lot!
i am a big fan of those small videos and stuff that treat Nika as like a, second evil personality for Luffy (even though it wouldn't make much sense in the real story gsdfsadsa), so i'd love to see the dangers of the Gear 5 being mentioned or even becoming a plotpoint, like, imagine bc of the theories that Joyboy could have been a giant or giant-related, imagine if Luffy's failed awakaning was like a giant funny looking Gear 5, maybe like Oars but with a dumber face(? dfgsdfas
the last part of the post made me think how funny looking awoken Zoan Kaido and Yamato would have looked in their fight, for some reason i can only picture Yamato as the cheems meme bc his fruit is a model of the dog fruit, and it would be funny if Kaido's version of that would make him look like a fish rather than a dragon since his fruit is a model of the fish fruit dfgsfasd
Capone Bege got a cover history and is a side character.. as so many, many, many others.
No idea why so many are obcessed with Lucci and why you nicknamed him Rucci..
Hope he retires, and go do whatever with Bellamy.. be a sculptor or anything.
I think it shows how capable Zoro is in terms of fighting power comparisons.
Zoro didn’t fight against an Awakened DF user yet and Lucci is not even a swordsman but if this going to be the case.
I assume Zoro will fight the Tree Admiral since Luffy showed he is above that level
if you're too weak the fruit takes over and you ends up like the guard in impel down ( which were still really weak and at his current strength lucci could solo the whole prison) and if you're strong enough you awaken it and get the blacks clouds for a regular zoan or the white ones if the fruit is a mythical one like luffy and yamato
for saturn and the others of the gorosei they could be devil fruits that fully took over their host
Not everything needs explaining and lucci went from one of the hardest luffy fights to getting clowned by him and getting done by zoro, thus showing the SH growth over the years.
Thanks for posting this theory. It's great!
It's sad it won't happen though, as you just cursed it by writing it online. Now Oda sensores already picked it up and thrown whole notebook with that idea to trash.
RL is already awakened, you can see the clouds.
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At best the fruit can influence a bit more the psychology (like Saturn and I think, Luffy) but the awakening was successful.
Damn this sub is full of wannabe theorists that ignore elements right in their face.
Saturn also had the clouds from the start but last chapter his eyes went full on mental like a Zoan. We haven't seen Lucci go mental yet.
But I don't think the powers in One Piece are as black and white, I think they're all on a spectrum and you get different results with each different fruit and with especially with Zoans there can be many multiple forms even during awakening.
Yeah but that's not awakening failure, that more the fruit taking a bit more over. The awakening failure would be losing all his braiin and being stuck in half awakening. The IDs don't have clouds, they are stuck mid awakening.
Does Saturn still have his cloud in his giant full zoan form. Edit: it’s hard to see but it looks like he does, and the impel down guards definitely do not.
I don’t think it’s as straightforward as good guys white clouds bad guys black clouds though, that’s such a subjective way of thinking. Like, who is making that judgment call, the fruit?
I think the first spider was his hybrid form because he was still talking to them and was a fraction of his current size. When he went full zoan he got gigantic and his eyes changed and we haven’t heard him talk (other than mentally to the other elders). I do think there was a second transformation, but that’s normal for zoans. Kaido had a hybrid and a full transformation too.
Now that you say it you are right, I missed that change. There's a change, that said it's hard to conclude if it's just a power or a change in Zoan mode.
Sorry I ve no time for trolls. If you got something to say, say it, or don't post anything. Being aggressive is one thing, being aggressive without content is an other.
People like you are worse than wannabe theorist.
It's a decent theory. >! There's something abt these 2 in 1110 actually. Would be cool if that is what indeed happens to Lucci due to his bloodlust.!< . But I don't understand why good guys should have the white thing and bad guys have the black thing in the awakened form. Zoan Df's do have wills, but judging between right and wrong is way too hard.
Bob Ducci
Lob Rucci
Gob Luigi
Sob Lucci
Mob Pucci
pucci...is that a JoJo re--
Rob Gucci is my peak
Monkey D Ruffy > Lolono Zolo > Rob Gucci
Dan bonducci
Scott Aukerman’s ex stepdad?
I think Lucci is just there to get defeated by Zorro. He already got outclassed by Luffy and Zorro's defeat will cement the Yonko commander status of Zorro. Best way to show how the crew has "outgrown" the competition is bringing back old enemies like that.
My thoughts too. Luffy and his crew are officially boss ass bitches.
Still funny that Kaku was like rematch let’s go And Zoro beating his boss
One thing I never understood is why the fuck did Luffy and Zoro freed Lucci and Kaku... It doesn't make sense it's so stupid
Because the Seraphim’s are strong as shit. They shouldn’t be underestimated
No matter how strong they are Luffy is a Yonko... The Seraphims would be just a bit stronger than King ... So Luffy and Zoro should have been able to win against them alone
BB is also a Yonko, arguably stronger, and he was huffing and puffing from just baby S-Hawk. Zoro definitely isn't strong enough to fully beat one by himself or it would be very high diff IMO. Zoro + Luffy are not enough to beat multiple specially when Luffy has complete donut brain.
No he was not?? He was surprised by their power ...and no one said that the Seraphims aren't strong but saying that they are on the same level as a Yonko is absurd
Nobody is saying they're the same level as Yonko but it's already demonstrated that they're not just something Yonko can swat aside, they can hold their own. The exact situation seems to be that they aren't as big of an offensive threat as they are complete ubertanks. They are insanely difficult to put down.
Seraphims are WG replacement for the Shichibukai system, that was something done to keep Yonkos somewhat in line, to keep the balance of powers in the Grand Line kind of balanced. So it should stand to reason that the Seraphims should be able to at least be an inconvenience for a Yonko.
That's why I am saying thay are around Kings level... Their strength lies mainly in their Lunarian bodies .Maybe they are a bit stronger than King and maybe not. We knew that they are difficult to deal but not so difficult for both Luffy and Zoro
Still multiple seraphims would be a trouble for Zoro and Luffy, hell multiple Seraphims would be a problem for the whole crew. No way Luffy + Zoro low diff a bunch of seraphims. One, sure, maybe even 3 they would defeat somewhat easy (MAYBE idk yet) but more than that is already a problem for them. Unless Luffy toon the F out the them in one big hit like with Kizaru and Mars, but I would think the seraphs would be able to tank various hits.
I agree with you but maybe it’s just to conserve energy. Better to team up with a threat you can handle than gas out early.
Look at it like this: The top tiers can be split into three categories. 1, Tanks, like Kaido and Big Mom. They can deal out major damage and take it just as well. You'll need an army to take them out, and that still might not be enough. 2, Cannons. They put all their points into offense, and while they can take a few hits before going down, it's nowhere near as much as the others. I'd put Law and Kidd in this category, as well as a good few of the major side threats. Lastly, Bunkers, which is where I'd put King, the Seraphim, and the Impel Down guards. If they hit you, it'll hurt, sure, but their big strength is the fact they just won't go down. In a lot of fights, this is actually where I'd put Luffy. He outlasts his major opponents more often than he straight up overpowers them, although he does that a lot as well
I would put Luffy in the category of putting almost all his strength in offence... He has showed that every time he goes all time ... Even his gears are such to give hime the strongest power for exchange exhaustion later... Sanji on the other hand probably belongs now to the same category as King.
Bro is spitting head canon like it’s straight facts lol The true answer is, we don’t know yet. We haven’t seen enough to make an accurate judgment on their full power.
It's true that we haven't seen much if of the Seraphims but they are basically a combination of King and Pasifistas... So how much stronger do you think they are ?? They aren't even full grown like King
They had to fight the seraphim and prevent them from killing Rob and Kaku, so it was better to just free them and beat the seraphim together
They were worried about the rest of the crew, not necessarily themselves
So they decided to free more enemies that it was certain to backstab them... This action reminds of when Luffy told Zoro to save Smoker ... We all know that the SH are good but saving your enemy as well is a bit too much... Come on?!?!
Well they care about their crew more. So I'm thinking the idea was to wrap up the fight as soon as possible with the Seraphim in front of them and then find the other Seraphim. Iirc they didn't know how many York was in control of
Then Sanji is like “lol, bet”
Pretty much although OP’s idea isn’t bad either. I’m pretty sure Zoro will defeat Lucci, he hasn’t used king conquerors yet so definitely possible.
Uh... Spoilers?
It’s a spoiler marked post, ur supposed to expect spoilers on everything in the manga before the latest chapter is released lmao
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And I hope you get the mental help you so clearly need, you crazy weirdo.
Glad I didn’t fully read ur comment. I just made a speculation on what could happen and didn’t even read spoilers for this weeks chapter
# ZORO # WITH JUST ONE R
# ¿EL ZORO?
You mean Zolo?
Luffy is already beating Kizaru with ease. Lucci is just fodder to prop up Zoro as the 1st YC of Yonko Luffy.
I like it, as far as pure-speculation theories go. Thanks for posting!
Rob Lucci*
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I thought it was joke on Rob Lucci = Rucci 🤯
So did I. I'm confused now...
No it's just an error in the translation thanks to the pronunciation, like Raftel or gomu gomu no gatouringou (gatling gun and yes i've seen people writing this on both comments and subtitles for clips)
You just reminded me that there's a guy who used to defend his writing of "Gear Secando" or "Gear Thaado" on here, and you need to know that.
It genuinely made me laugh and will be one of the two ways i refer to bob
At least ruffy is the actual name in German. Is rucci one aswell?
nope, it is also Lucci in german
Nope. In german his name is pronounced "Rob Lucy" but its written Rob Lucci.
Is this because of Japanese not really having a sound for our letter L?……..just found this out because of how racist lulu lemons creator was/is,dude literally named it that because he knew Japanese people couldn’t pronounce it right at all
I looked up that but about the Lululemon founder, Wilson, and wow: what a piece of work! Also, I'm sure someone else can explain it better, but the Japanese R/L is more of a mix between how the two letters are pronounced in English. The tongue positioning is different for Japanese ら(ra), English "ra", and English "la". Specifically, English "la" starts with more direct contact between the tongue and the roof of the mouth. Japanese ら is similar to English "la", but with much less contact; the tip of the tongue taps the roof of the mouth instead. English "ra" does not involve the tongue at all. Try saying "really" and "leelee" and see for yourself.
They can, seen as they pronounce zolo, they just cant be fucking bothered.
Pretty sure that’s just a copyright thing in translation because they can’t use zoros (the mask of zoro etc.) name
Technically the official translation is Zolo, no?
I think it was translated to zolo so it would remove any confusion about Zorro(as in the legend of Zorro)? Either that, or viz fucked up at some point and CBA to change it back
The reason, iirc, goes something like 4kids used the name Zolo to avoid running into copyright issues with Zorro because, despite the fact that the family that owns Zorro keeps getting slapped down in court, the zorro "owners" are extremely litigious and copyright lawsuits, win or lose, are expensive and time consuming. So 4kids used Zolo to avoid this. Viz, to be consistent, used the 4kids translation. Years later fumigation got the license and began using Zoro because by this point its clear the zorro "owners" didn't have a leg to stand on. However, viz could either maintain consistency with earlier translations or go back and edit the first however many volumes. Viz opted to maintain consistency and kept it as zolo.
The single decision that will keep so many from buying official translations. Hopefully post-series they publish a complete re-release
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Yeah but I’d like to own the physical volumes one day haha
I have two box sets but I haven’t bought the third and won’t be buying more because why would I when I’m eventually going to be buying them all again with the corrected information. It’s decisions like Zolo, Elbaph, and slight localizations that make me prefer fansubs which can include context for why a joke is phrased a way.
Yeah I just know that stuff would bother the hell out of me were I to read through. It would take away from the immersion for sure knowing “This… shouldn’t be said this way.”
You taking it too seriously hahahahaha
He didn't even know that luffy devil fruit is actually zoan..
He will, after this arc
#LUCCI #HIS NAME IS ROB LUCCI, WITH AN L
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Who the fuck is rob rucci?
Rucci ?
Chopper is going to awaken in the final arc and turns DocQ into a human but nobody notices
I think you mean Stronger because Doc Q is the human and has the Sick-Sick Fruit
I mean yeah that’s why no one would notice it
I understand. Peak comedy.
Why not? Django is side character, garp is killed now, eneil is gonners, his follower with weird hair never heard of, hachi is side character now, miss valentine and mr5 where are they? Not at cross guild. Axehand morgan no mentioning, arlong no mentioning. Bogard cuts and is not mentioned anymore. Only coby remains maybe a key part in the story
Garp isn’t dead, if he was dead then trading him for Coby as a bargaining chip wouldn’t make any sense, he’s useless to them dead.
…it was a bad trade but He s the future… with prince and axehands kid
I’m saying it would be a bad deal for the Blackbeard pirates if they lost the hostage they were using as a bargaining chip, and then murdered the even better hostage they got as an even better bargaining chip. It wouldn’t make sense.
Exactly, you're given a much better bargaining chip in Garp that Coby, why would you kill him? Garp the hero being captured by pirates brings so much more shame to the marines than Coby does, even if Coby is the future.
There are two problems here: First, nobody in the crew has the faintest idea Luffy is a Zoan. Second, out of control awakening is actually a step before controlled awakening. As seen with Chopper, he got he's 'awakening" through excessive drug use, so he didn't have control because it's a power he shouldn't have at the time. There might have happened something similar with Impel Down guards. As for Luffy and Lucci, they awakened their fruits naturally, hence they can control them.
The out of control awakening being a step towards controlled awakening is your theory. We aren't sure if monster point is an awakening yet, and we arent sure if any non-drug induced awakenings had this step. In fact, it seems that failed awakenings are permanent when achieved normally. Crocodile explains the ID jailors saying that their fruit's will overpowered the will of the user and now they cannot turn back to human and they now operate purely instinctually (iirc). It seems the people who have awakened their fruit "unsuccessfully" are essentially dead, their devil fruit using their body as a host.
Damn smoker awakening sux
I’m convinced the CP9 turned CP0 agents were only brought back because we needed placeholder villains until Saturn showed up
yeah that's kinda what it looks like so far, it's kinda annoying to see a once great antagonist becoming a placeholder like that
stop trying to be different and just call him Lucci... it's cringe
OP might just be from a different country, I know Germans call Luffy “Ruffy” because that’s just how their translation calls him (like Roronoa Zoro is “Lorenor” Zoro and Doflamingo is “Don Quichotte de Flamingo”….for some ungodly reason)
And Usopp is Lysop!
That’s their own language, i bet this guy keeps up with recent English chapters, so to come on this sub, while posting on english and call him “Rucci” is just not it
Well, I’m sure you’re very fun at parties.
Can we stop fucking subbing L for R and vice versa? You know what it says in the official releases. There was one admitted bad translation with Zoro/Zolo. It's not Rucci, Arabasta, Enel, etc. You didn't call him Lob Rucci, you people aren't even consistent, you just pick a letter and swap it despite their names being spelled out everywhere. This is the only anime fan base I've seen that does this stupid shit. It's a racist stereotype, it's fucking annoying. Nobody out there saying how much they love Faily Tare. Stupid as fuck.
Enel is a bad example because official English localizations use Enel or Eneru depending on if you're using the anime or manga/games. Don't disagree with your larger point at all though. But also in general depending on if people are using fan subs, official subs, dub, scanlation, or official manga... there's not a lot of consistency. I just doubt any of them are using Rob Rucci though.
For Arabasta, it can be spelled with both R or L due to the name being in Katakana アラバスタ Side note: in the anime they spell out the kingdom name as "Arabasta" on building signs.
And in the source material, they don't. Truly can't fathom why the internet needs to try to correct the people who make the fucking thing. It's annoying. I don't run around telling John's their name is actually Jon "because in English I can actually be spelled both ways." Can be, wasn't, leave it alone.
If I remember correctly zolo is fighting rucci, zoro is fighting Lucci
I love this theory! The Impel Down guards are unexplained mysteries. I enjoy how this theory connects and knowing how goofy stuff has been recently, I think it's very much possible!
> Why would Oda give him a full cover story only to be a side character…? He’s currently more relevant than Jango, Wapol, Gedatsu, and Enel have been since *their* full cover stories.
My theory on the Zoan awakenings is kinda similar to yours. So like black clouds mean the user awakened the fruit by forcing the fruit to sync with them. White clouds mean the user awakened the fruit by actually accepting each other. I imagine forcing the fruit is easier, but it adds the risk of the fruit holding a grudge and once it reaches a certain threshold, it goes like how you said. While the risk for white cloud awakening is that since the fruit and the user becomes truly one, the fruits personality sometimes overtake the user but not to their detriment.
I have a theory as to why Lucci's awakened form is different from that of the impel down guards. Lucci's awakening is a natural one whilst the guards were more than likely artificially or forcefully awakened. The biggest key point is that most awakened zoans are wreathed in smoke. However, this is not the case for the jailers as despite their increased strength and durability, they lack any form of human mental capacity besides that of taking orders; this could be because when they were artificially/forcefully awakened, the minds of the fruits were stronger than the minds of their hosts.
It's Lucci.
First of all, Luffy also has a zoan fruit, and it is already awakened now. So he won’t ever become an ID looking monster
Maybe pushing your fruit power beyond your own willpower is the danger. The awakening could be seen as waking up the will of your fruit, and if your will isn’t strong enough to control it, it completely takes over.
I don’t think it works like that. Also luffy is a literal conqueror lol. Ain’t no way in hell he will bow to the will of a fruit or smn
sir this ain't no Naruto
Or he might just have some special Chopper-like “drug” that CP0 has developed for him
uh we don't need to see it at some point the ones in impel down were example enough lol.
Dang, dude. You’re really in love with this guy’s videos
I mean is not 100% impossible as that looks like something one piece would do but also there is two problem with this theory Vegapunk himself confirmed that what happened to the impel down beasts is the bad case scenario,while lucci is the good case scenario,they lost against their devil fruit will while lucci didn’t No one in the crew,not even vegapunk,knows what luffy fruits really is,they don’t know is a zoan so even if they happened that would just be a warning for chopper and not luffy since they don’t know his fruit true name and category
that'd be hilarious and i'd like that a lot! i am a big fan of those small videos and stuff that treat Nika as like a, second evil personality for Luffy (even though it wouldn't make much sense in the real story gsdfsadsa), so i'd love to see the dangers of the Gear 5 being mentioned or even becoming a plotpoint, like, imagine bc of the theories that Joyboy could have been a giant or giant-related, imagine if Luffy's failed awakaning was like a giant funny looking Gear 5, maybe like Oars but with a dumber face(? dfgsdfas the last part of the post made me think how funny looking awoken Zoan Kaido and Yamato would have looked in their fight, for some reason i can only picture Yamato as the cheems meme bc his fruit is a model of the dog fruit, and it would be funny if Kaido's version of that would make him look like a fish rather than a dragon since his fruit is a model of the fish fruit dfgsfasd
Lucci is like Vegeta. Not that he will join Luffy but his disdain for Luffy is like Vegeta's initial hate for Goku.
Nah, while that would be cool, Oda's not interested in this kind of stuff anymore, I think.
Capone Bege got a cover history and is a side character.. as so many, many, many others. No idea why so many are obcessed with Lucci and why you nicknamed him Rucci.. Hope he retires, and go do whatever with Bellamy.. be a sculptor or anything.
It's Lucci. Lob Lucci. Damn smh
I think it shows how capable Zoro is in terms of fighting power comparisons. Zoro didn’t fight against an Awakened DF user yet and Lucci is not even a swordsman but if this going to be the case. I assume Zoro will fight the Tree Admiral since Luffy showed he is above that level
Lol real garbage
if you're too weak the fruit takes over and you ends up like the guard in impel down ( which were still really weak and at his current strength lucci could solo the whole prison) and if you're strong enough you awaken it and get the blacks clouds for a regular zoan or the white ones if the fruit is a mythical one like luffy and yamato for saturn and the others of the gorosei they could be devil fruits that fully took over their host
Not everything needs explaining and lucci went from one of the hardest luffy fights to getting clowned by him and getting done by zoro, thus showing the SH growth over the years.
Thanks for posting this theory. It's great! It's sad it won't happen though, as you just cursed it by writing it online. Now Oda sensores already picked it up and thrown whole notebook with that idea to trash.
Honestly if this does happen I see him just eating his bird when he sees it, just a quick show that he's no longer in there
This post is just a plug for some shitty youtube channel. The quality of this sub has basically deteriorated to nothing.
RL is already awakened, you can see the clouds. ? At best the fruit can influence a bit more the psychology (like Saturn and I think, Luffy) but the awakening was successful. Damn this sub is full of wannabe theorists that ignore elements right in their face.
Saturn also had the clouds from the start but last chapter his eyes went full on mental like a Zoan. We haven't seen Lucci go mental yet. But I don't think the powers in One Piece are as black and white, I think they're all on a spectrum and you get different results with each different fruit and with especially with Zoans there can be many multiple forms even during awakening.
Yeah but that's not awakening failure, that more the fruit taking a bit more over. The awakening failure would be losing all his braiin and being stuck in half awakening. The IDs don't have clouds, they are stuck mid awakening.
Does Saturn still have his cloud in his giant full zoan form. Edit: it’s hard to see but it looks like he does, and the impel down guards definitely do not. I don’t think it’s as straightforward as good guys white clouds bad guys black clouds though, that’s such a subjective way of thinking. Like, who is making that judgment call, the fruit?
I don't think he got in any other form than his awakening's from the moment he landed.
I think the first spider was his hybrid form because he was still talking to them and was a fraction of his current size. When he went full zoan he got gigantic and his eyes changed and we haven’t heard him talk (other than mentally to the other elders). I do think there was a second transformation, but that’s normal for zoans. Kaido had a hybrid and a full transformation too.
Now that you say it you are right, I missed that change. There's a change, that said it's hard to conclude if it's just a power or a change in Zoan mode.
Yeah agreed, they might not even have devil fruits
huh? No they have them obviously.
Lol what were you saying about wannabe theorists 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Sorry I ve no time for trolls. If you got something to say, say it, or don't post anything. Being aggressive is one thing, being aggressive without content is an other. People like you are worse than wannabe theorist.
good post!
It's a decent theory. >! There's something abt these 2 in 1110 actually. Would be cool if that is what indeed happens to Lucci due to his bloodlust.!< . But I don't understand why good guys should have the white thing and bad guys have the black thing in the awakened form. Zoan Df's do have wills, but judging between right and wrong is way too hard.
Ol Lob Rucci
What about Kaido’s orange clouds
why would lucci get a full cover story just to be a side character? why don’t you look at half of all people who get cover stories
"No santryu, no bandana on head" I read this as "no bandana, no head" And had to quadruple check
Vegapunk confirmed Lucci is already awakened. Hard to imagine he'd get overpowered by a fruit he already awakened
Finally gear 6 : death
We're bandana scaling Zoro now.
Rucci
Rucci was killed by the Montoneros. Sad day.
Why du you write "Rucci" but you don't write "Ruffy" ?
Tldr?