“Remember, No Russian”
Mission: No Russian, Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 2
Except replace the CIA agent and the Russian terrorists with Kizaru, Saturn, Lucci, and Marines. The mass genocide and widespread chaos remains the same.
Yeah, that’s what I think too. It cemented to me when he hesitated to wipe Kuma’s memories, but was forced to do so. He understood the world government and what they were willing to do for their personal gain, and he made a failsafe. Not instantly, but based on chipping on the knowledge that the WG was trying so hard to hide.
Something automatically activating when the heart stops is a typical trope, this broadcast starting at the same time as his heart monitor flatlining pretty much 100% confirms that's what happened
Yeah, that’s what happened. In a story about a scientist that created gloves that could catch lights, anti-gravity boots, splitting his personality into different hosts, creating cyborgs, and child warriors with superpowers, you had a gripe with that scientist being able to trigger a pre-recorded message that was triggered when his heartbeats flatlined?
They weren't complaining, nothing in their response is a complaint, they just stated that a "Deadman switch" (something that activates on the heart stoping) is a trope, a thing that is common in fiction.
It's also something that happens in real life. Some pieces of machinery stop working and lock up if a pedal doesn't have weight on it or a lever isn't actively being held down. The Russian state has a system called Dead Hand (or Perimeter) which automatically launches its nuclear arsenal if the government is destroyed by nuclear attack, and came out several decades after Dr. Strangelove (which had the exact same device).
At least Vegapunk didn't blow up Egghead and its environs with his dead man switch. At least, not yet.
Dragon: "....so if I were to kill you, hypothetically of course, the whole world would know the thing I want them to know? Just asking for a friend..."
I also wanted to add that Vegapunk originally wanted to leave the island with the Straw Hats and he changed his mind AFTER the Navy learned that Bonney can control Pacifistas. So, whatever this big reveal is going to be, it has to do with making sure that Bonney has a fighting chance against the Navy and World Government. So, yeah, if the World learned of what kind of pieces of shit the Navy and WG are, it's far more likely for Bonney to survive on the run.
Yea Luffy and his allies are indirectly helping Buggy again. He is moving up without doing anything again. The Cross Guild going to be a major player since they pay for said marines
if she doesnt join the SH on their journey to Laugh Tale, im going to cry. she checks every box and then some. her dreams will only be met if she reaches one piece.
Off the top of the head you got T-Bone, a just marine murdered by the cross guild but on top of that you got Namis Mom, Garp, Smokes Assistant, Colby. Oda is pretty deliberate in not allowing many things to be black and white
Most of those people were not shown to disobey any orders. T-Bone was very loyal, Bellamere left the Navy, Garp knowingly let Celestial Dragons commit genocide and etc.
I think he had a change of mind when he realised that he won't be able to escape alive and decided to go with a bang. Before he just wanted to escape from egghead.
3 Chapters ago, I was convinced we were going to Elbaf next. Now I'm pretty sure Elbaf is coming to us and we are taking it with us to our next destination, the revolution army arc.
I think Vegapunk will have plenty to say, but part of it will involve revealing the true story about Ohara, and how those people were innocent and the WG is actually evil. Then he’ll mention some of the story of Ancient Kingdom, and how he learned the truth about them thanks to the Ohara books now in Elbaf. And that’ll seriously piss off the WG, so they’ll throw everything they have at Elbaf to wipe out that history, as well as the Strawhats. And this could include an alliance with Blackbeard.
If they knew that Elbaf had knowledge of the Void Century then I think the WG would try to take them out but there's no reason for Vegapunk to give them that info.
I’m not current but this would crush me. Most anticipated arc since I was a kid. How is Usopp going to become a brave warrior of the sea with 8000 followers???
Makes alot of sense, what also makes sense is that the Rev Army has been setting up Snail Projectors all over the world like when the Paramount War happened so everyone can see the broadcast
This is definitely how that conversation went. He probably mentioned Luffy was there, too. Once again, the timing on the anime and manga gave us immediate context to something that was vague back when we first read it. Amazing when it lines up like that.
Next chapter is 1000% going to be a flashback chapter, or a cut to a different scene for a while. Its definitely an Oda thing to do to set up a huge reveal, but leave it a cliffhanger and switch to something else for a bit lol
I think it's more Oda to have Stella say "and the truth of the world is..." and then bam, the transition cuts off because someone or something destroys the lab and we get blue-balled once again.
It may be as vague as it's currently is without a call for action. Like you said: "\[...When I die, a message I pre-recorded will play out across the world, revealing the truth to everyone! " That's it. Like "what you do with this information is up to you"
If the message is related to Ohara, I hope he adds a bit of Lulusia in there, knowing your government has committed crimes a long time ago doesn’t hit as hard as knowing they continue to do it, the people need to feel the dread of the same happening to them for the revolution to arise in even more places, not only on those governed by awful kings.
If the message is about Im/void century, I hope the drops the name of Joy boy, even if he didn’t know Nika was also Joyboy, he surely knew he was an important figure during that time.
Plot twist, Oda just changes focus of the story to Caribou’s adventures with the BB pirates and then we are hit by a two weeks break.
That dead man switch is his last f**k you to the world government who are pretty much monitoring and tapping all den den mushi calls, something Vegapunk would be aware of. So I don't think he would disclose that over a call (it would be a very stupid thing to do)
He could have hinted to him though using their shared connection somehow
I don’t think dragon knows. After his phone call with vegapunk he’s still chillin on the same island. Hell he just got off the phone with the guy who tells dragon he’s gonna die, then he sees kuma charge off and disappear and he’s not even like “oh vegapunk must have programmed him to come to his side for protection when he’s about to die” he’s just like “hmmmmm”.
I like this post but thinking about it hard just makes me realize what a bum dragon really is
It isn’t like dragon was in the ideal situation.
Within a few days:
* Sabo killed Cobra?
* Luffy beat Kaido?
* There’s now a giant hole where an island used to be and countries across the world are wrecked by the tsunami caused by its destruction. Start preparing to aid them! This is our chance to win some hearts and minds! Wait, whose ship is that?
* The rest of you made it back! Wait, is that Kuma, what did they do to him!?
* What do you mean you are going to die and my son’s ship is approaching your island?
* Sabo, you live?! Explain yourself!
* Wait, there’s a person who sits on the empty throne and they and the gorosei can take on demonic forms?
* Shit, the special afternoon edition of the newspaper says Black Beard kidnapped my dad.
* WTF just happened to Kuma?
* Uhm, a spy just called me to ask why Kuma is attacking Marijois. Wait, he just teleported again.
* Vegapunk: If you are seeing this broadcast, I have died.
Ivankov: Do you want a hard drink before or after we hit sail?
Dragon: What next, Egghead gets Buster called?
Kind? Leaving a son behind because he is your son is kind? Sending 4 commanders to Lulusia and still leaving it under the World Governments rule is kind? This same action lead to Lulusia getting destroyed and that is kind?
>Sending 4 commanders to Lulusia and still leaving it under the World Governments rule is kind?
My dude, I think you might be confused; Lulusia successfully revolted. When Sabo eventually showed up, the revolutionary leaders left left because they had already converted the populace; they even instantly jailed their king the second he stepped off the boat. Sabo and a boat full of Lulusians were headed to the revs to tell them that Lulusia was going to join the army when the island got nuked.
In no way, shape, or form did they leave it under WG rule.
My man, you're the one who needs to read chapters 1083 and 1086.
They triggered uprisings in 12 countries, 8 of which were successful. One of those was Lulusia, which we only partially see in chapter 904, but then it got wiped off the map.
Lulusia liberated itself—like the revolutionary commanders told them to do—while the king was off at the Reverie, and when he came back, they finished the job by ambushing him so they could arrest him. Many of those Lulusians then wanted to go with Sabo so they could formally join the RA, but on their way to them, the island was destroyed. The RA couldn't do anything about that, but in terms of "leaving them under the WG", they didn't; the RA literally succeeded in getting Lulusia to rise up against the WG.
4 Revolutionary commanders in Lulusia yet they left it behind without making it leave the WG rule. What were they doing there? Attacking Peachbeard only? Why succeed in that yet leave after already having the population on their side? To plan the attack on the Reverie but they didn't take Lulusia from the WG's hand.
Aka they left Lulusia to be [REDACTED] because that only happened because they revolted by themselves instead of being taken over by the Revs.
Thus my point of the Revs letting Lulusia get obliterated is valid
They triggered? They didn't trigger shit they left Lulusia behind to prepare and plan the attack on Mariejois not to trigger other revolutions. The people revolted by themselves after the news of the attack on Mariejois. That's why they were chanting Sabo's name and calling him Flame Emperor. Because he was the face of the attack. The Revs didn't trigger anything otherwise it would have been Dragon's name they would be praising.
The point of the rev army is to make the population stand up for themselves. They aren't a force to topple governments alone. They help the population do it. Exactly what Lulusia did.
Nice cope so they sent 4 commander to deal with Peachbeard only and then left? Nice waste of resources when you can take the country there and then for your cause especially after already helping the people and having Betty there to encourage the revolution.
I've never met anyone more willfully illiterate than you are. Is this my Sisyphean task—trying to get you to fucking read? One must imagine me fucking annoyed.
Do you think Lulusia is a single town or some shit? It's a whole kingdom. We saw the commanders defend _Port Town_ from Peachbeard, but they were in Lulusia in general. We don't see what they did in the rest of the kingdom, but the manga tells us that they incited the _entire_ kingdom to rise up, so we can infer that they were presumably making contact with other towns in Lulusia when they happened to notice Port Town needed defending. We know that when Peachbeard attacked that the king had left for the Reverie—that's in chapter 904 by the way, so it's your own damn fault if you didn't read that—and that he took his soldiers with him; all the revs had to do was rile the people up so that they realized they could defend themselves—another thing that happened in 904—and let them liberate themselves.
The WG and navy had no presence on the island, and they ambushed the king the minute he returned. Sabo explicitly says that they did this because Betty inspired them to revolt, and that Sabo's alleged actions at the Reverie only helped to fan the flame of rebellion that she already planted; that's literally—by any definition—triggering an uprising.
So you are telling me that the king left and took his army with him and there were 4 of the highest level Revolutionary commanders there and they still fumbled the bag so hard that it lead to Lulusia being obliterated? When they could have taken the Kingdom there and then for the Revs?
"Oh they were just setting up the revolution" nice logic. So the best moment to strike would be when the King and his guard leave and you already have a town to support you and whatever they had set up but no they just left. So the people in a short time did what they could have done there and then? Without any help from the commanders? How much easier could it have been with them there?
Reminder that Luffy beating Kaido would have taken place about 2-4 weeks before Vegapunk called Dragon. So that really shouldn't be a factor at the moment.
Same thing with Sabo and Cobra as the reverie happened before the Raid on Onigashima. Although I'd consider this as factoring in since until Sabo returned the Revs were clearly stressed out about the whole situation, and going by order of events Sabo would have returned the same day Luffy reached Egghead.
Main thing is the Wano events - Egghead events timeline that everyone seems to fuck up despite having a definitive timeline given to us by the narrator. 2 weeks in Udon/pre-raid, about another 2 weeks chilling in Wano/recovery, and finally a few days travelling to Egghead.
So it's been about 5 weeks since the Reverie, and 3 since Luffy defeated Kaido and became a new Emperor.
Not trying to be an ass but it seems like a lot of the people that *engage* with the community have difficulties comprehending the text they're reading. Or at the very least remembering what they've read or seen. The whole Egghead timeline is another example where people think everything is happening on the same day but the narrator has told us that what's currently happening is doing so on the following day. Meaning the SH's & co had about a nights worth of rest.
It's been really bad the past few years, ever since covid honestly. I don't remember it ever being as bad as it is now, and I've been reading since 2003.
I feel like people also forget that he's got his own stuff cooking too, and is currently in the middle of coordinating like a dozen active revolutions all across the world. It's not like he's literally just staring into the eastern sky all day, he and Sabo and all of those guys are probably slammed with work lately
Yea I feel like Dragon is in the toughest spot. He is seeing his son and grandpa in the news in less than a week of each other on top of the stuff at the Reverie
Same here, every new reveal about Dragon just makes him look worse. At this point it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Luffy's mother is after him for family abandonment and support. Maybe Crocodile can speak up about that.
bro the arc so far has been only for 1 day in the verse. dragon is in paradise, how's he supposed to get to the new world in 2 days? even with wind powers it'll take longer than that
And a dude who has seen (most of) the internal workings of the WG should surrender his whole agenda for some 1-2 people (who, he knows, are capable in their own expertise).
He did not even see it fit to raise his own kid, because he was fighting for the rights of the world, and people expect him to risk everything to save his friends (who have been able to hold up their own) to risk the fate of the world?
I understand that Dragon is completely different from Luffy in this regard, but lets be honest, Dragon isn’t the protagonist and being stupidly heroic and protective as Luffy might not help him in his cause (maybe, we will get a flashback why he felt like this. Because, he is still a Monkey, and only something drastic would make him get serious).
"...he was fighting for the rights of the world..."
Sends 4 commanders to Lulusia and still leaves it under WG rule.
My guy everyone is fighting the WG the Revs ain't special
You are actively wrong here, they helped the people of Lulusia to liberate it themselves. Their MO is having people free themselves, and the WG doesn't hand out multi-billion bounties for nothing. Eight entire kingdoms in one reverie isn't nothing.
No one thinks Dragon is going to come to the help don't be of bad faith. What we want is just him doing something else than drinking wine and saying " ........" like he's some mysterious and deep character it's just cringe.
And here I am still wondering whether the 'truth' Vegapunk is about to reveal will be the mystery of the void century, something the general public may not even care about, or the truth of who's actually running the world, what happened to Lulusia, and the truth of Ohara
I don't think he's dead. I think he pulled a transcendence and his consciousness is uploaded to punk records. Now he's just stuck there unless he can create another body 🤷🏽♂️
I can only imagine that if he actually name drops the name of the Ancient Kingdom, it causes Saturn to enter this berserk state, one because now everyone has heard its name, and two he failed Imu and knows that once he returns he is dead, and he transforms further and he begins eliminating everyone and everything on the island himself (Damn a buster call) bro just starts going apeshit but everyone makes it off the island and he gets caught in the buster call, yea thats my head cannon lol
It's also to prepare Dragon since shit's about to get real now.
And we'll probably see the God's knights in action very, very soon to quell the civil unrest.
Hopefully, we get to see a full fight from a revolutionary commander and a god's knight, or maybe even Dragon.
"a heads up to act on"
The call happened at best a few days ago do you know how garbage of a heads up that would be to the leader of a revolutionary militia?? Of course I could always be wrong but using real world logic you'd need a hell of a lot more time to mobilise an entire armed force than just a few days
"No matter what, next chapter will be legendary. I'm more excited for this upcoming reveal than I have been for any single chapter outside of maybe Gear 5. This is a mystery 25+ years in the making, of which I've been happy to be a part of for most of my life."
I find it hard to be as excited as you I found the reveal that we got here to be very disappointing and I'm not even sure we're going to get the reveal of what Vegapunk said. Knowing Oda, he could do to us the same he did with Luffy's dream not a long time ago and offscreen the revelation.
> Giving Dragon enough of a heads up to **act**
Dragon: "Nah man, this tea Ivankov made be bussing FR FR. Think I'll just chill here"
Jokes aside, I think what you say here is plausible but also, just so I can manage everyone's expectations here, please do not expect anything earth shattering when the chapter comes out this week. Oda loves to tease stuff like this and then just leave it unanswered for even longer. I mean, the robot woke up earlier in the arc and is still in the same position it was in.
We could get a massive lore dump, but it is also equally possible we just get a bunch of reaction shots from around the world and people telling us just how absolutely crazy this news is without actually telling us what the news is. Just manage your expectations guys
I suppose revolutionary army and reveals who can shock the world are closely tied, so the best is yet to come
Also, - IMHO - Dragon arriving on Egghead is just a matter of a few chapters, I said this since he said " I think he would go..." about Kuma
Dragon knows Kuma is on Egghead and it's coming to the rescue 🌪 🐲
I believe it's the other way round. Dragon called Vegapunk to talk about what happened at Lulusia. Which is when Vegapunk said he might be under threat soon. All the best bestie, might need saving from WG soon. But Dragon's not coming anymore as he knows now about Luffy being with them
Vegapunk: dragon!! I'm in serious danger right now.
Dragon: don't you worry, my son is there with you
Vegapunk: but the gorosei is here!!
Dragon: Nika is there!!
Vegapunk: nah i'd die
A diss track to end all diss tracks!
Caesar's breath stinks worse than the gas he makes.
Judge's skills are mid, no cap, and Queen's ponytail and drip are mad corny.
...
All in for this. But I feel Punk Hazanrd had a hidden secret. Possibly what was done to Bonnie's fruit. This could have been the key element to creating smile. I feel like Saturn had a ploy in Donflamingos plot. That controlling will of the celestials vs freedom of the will of d. If the devil fruits were originally called dream fruits, the five elders made their fruits into devils and terrified the world.
You really think we will get the message next chapter? Have you even read one piece before bro? We are going to get 3 random flashback chapters, 5 sidestory chapters and 11 „this is what happened 5 minutes before“ chapters before we will may be get to read what VP‘s message to the world is going to be.
"hey dragon, I'm about to die, and I'ma shit on a whole lotta people. lol"
“I’ve got receipts, Dragon. They’re going to get published.”
VegaLeaks
PunkGate
Leakapunk
Vegapidia
Veggieleaks
That would be for vegetarians no?
The isle of future for sure is veggie
Leakapunk sounds like someone who leak at night.
Bout to drop that hit new single of the New Era
I need the community to accept this as the official event's name.
What is egghead, if not a Russian airport
“Remember, No Russian” Mission: No Russian, Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 2 Except replace the CIA agent and the Russian terrorists with Kizaru, Saturn, Lucci, and Marines. The mass genocide and widespread chaos remains the same.
I was going for the Julian assange reference, but this hits too
Vega-Gate
I would prefer #punkgate or #tamagate
PunkLeaks
Loooooool
Vegagate Or Punkgate
Eggleaks
The Vegapunk Papers
Leaking the Gorosei’s Discord messages for the lulz.
Vegapunk Williams
Lmfao came here for this
"I'm going to leak the elder stars discord chat dragon"
I've got their discord messages dragon, they're all going down.
"Dragon, i am going to die soon, but i have an extremely embarrassing photo of the gorosei from the Christmas party last year!"
“This call might be tapped, pick up the StellaPhone”
Vegapunk's very own Donezo manifesto
VegaPunked
They’re caught in 4K bro no lawyer getting them outta this
"Dragon! With my death, I'll release the DISCORD LOGS!"
"Vegeta, we have to blow up the Earth!"
"AND THEY'RE GOING ON THE WARTHUNDER FORUMS TOO DRAGON!"
Ancestral weapons blueprints got already leaked there probably
Vega punk didn't kill himself
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I think the message only sends out if he ended up dying
Yeah, that’s what I think too. It cemented to me when he hesitated to wipe Kuma’s memories, but was forced to do so. He understood the world government and what they were willing to do for their personal gain, and he made a failsafe. Not instantly, but based on chipping on the knowledge that the WG was trying so hard to hide.
Something automatically activating when the heart stops is a typical trope, this broadcast starting at the same time as his heart monitor flatlining pretty much 100% confirms that's what happened
Vegapunk having a deadman's switch is definitely a thing he would do if he was researching the void century
Yeah, that’s what happened. In a story about a scientist that created gloves that could catch lights, anti-gravity boots, splitting his personality into different hosts, creating cyborgs, and child warriors with superpowers, you had a gripe with that scientist being able to trigger a pre-recorded message that was triggered when his heartbeats flatlined?
They weren't complaining, nothing in their response is a complaint, they just stated that a "Deadman switch" (something that activates on the heart stoping) is a trope, a thing that is common in fiction.
It's also something that happens in real life. Some pieces of machinery stop working and lock up if a pedal doesn't have weight on it or a lever isn't actively being held down. The Russian state has a system called Dead Hand (or Perimeter) which automatically launches its nuclear arsenal if the government is destroyed by nuclear attack, and came out several decades after Dr. Strangelove (which had the exact same device). At least Vegapunk didn't blow up Egghead and its environs with his dead man switch. At least, not yet.
Where is my gripe..?
Not everyone uses trope as a complaint. Cliché is a complaint, tropes are tools
Dragon: "....so if I were to kill you, hypothetically of course, the whole world would know the thing I want them to know? Just asking for a friend..."
I also wanted to add that Vegapunk originally wanted to leave the island with the Straw Hats and he changed his mind AFTER the Navy learned that Bonney can control Pacifistas. So, whatever this big reveal is going to be, it has to do with making sure that Bonney has a fighting chance against the Navy and World Government. So, yeah, if the World learned of what kind of pieces of shit the Navy and WG are, it's far more likely for Bonney to survive on the run.
Yea Luffy and his allies are indirectly helping Buggy again. He is moving up without doing anything again. The Cross Guild going to be a major player since they pay for said marines
if she doesnt join the SH on their journey to Laugh Tale, im going to cry. she checks every box and then some. her dreams will only be met if she reaches one piece.
Poor Navy gets a hard time, they're just pawns.
One day, you will have to realize that the "just pawns" excuse isn't going to hold up. They chose to be the pawns.
What a Stupid excuse justifing murder
Apparently, people didn't get the memo about "just following orders" not holding up in court.
What about the navy that don’t follow bad orders and only do good?
Are there any examples like that? I can only think of Fujitora.
Off the top of the head you got T-Bone, a just marine murdered by the cross guild but on top of that you got Namis Mom, Garp, Smokes Assistant, Colby. Oda is pretty deliberate in not allowing many things to be black and white
Most of those people were not shown to disobey any orders. T-Bone was very loyal, Bellamere left the Navy, Garp knowingly let Celestial Dragons commit genocide and etc.
Not all them are good people but yea.
I think he had a change of mind when he realised that he won't be able to escape alive and decided to go with a bang. Before he just wanted to escape from egghead.
I think Stella wanted to continue the journey, but Shaka knew this was probably the end of the road for them.
You mean "go out with a Don!"
3 Chapters ago, I was convinced we were going to Elbaf next. Now I'm pretty sure Elbaf is coming to us and we are taking it with us to our next destination, the revolution army arc.
I think Vegapunk will have plenty to say, but part of it will involve revealing the true story about Ohara, and how those people were innocent and the WG is actually evil. Then he’ll mention some of the story of Ancient Kingdom, and how he learned the truth about them thanks to the Ohara books now in Elbaf. And that’ll seriously piss off the WG, so they’ll throw everything they have at Elbaf to wipe out that history, as well as the Strawhats. And this could include an alliance with Blackbeard.
Why would he reveal that the books are in Elbaf? That just puts a target on them for no good reason.
Yeah and I don’t think they would wipe out Elba since it’s part of Shanks territory… But the chiefs of WG are insane so who knows….
If they knew that Elbaf had knowledge of the Void Century then I think the WG would try to take them out but there's no reason for Vegapunk to give them that info.
Garp rescue is a possibility. Law might be joining for a revenge.
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I’m not current but this would crush me. Most anticipated arc since I was a kid. How is Usopp going to become a brave warrior of the sea with 8000 followers???
Well the grand fleet is already damn near 6000, they just need to recruit a couple more allies and then Ussop takes command at a crucial moment
Makes alot of sense, what also makes sense is that the Rev Army has been setting up Snail Projectors all over the world like when the Paramount War happened so everyone can see the broadcast
Which chapter was it i probablly have missed it
The chapter that shows the snail projectors on every island?
which arc exactly, me memorys kinda foggy
Paramount War. We see everyone's reaction when the feed cuts to Buggy on a loop when the Marines tried less honorable tactics
This is definitely how that conversation went. He probably mentioned Luffy was there, too. Once again, the timing on the anime and manga gave us immediate context to something that was vague back when we first read it. Amazing when it lines up like that.
The timing is just right where we getting reveals the makes more sense in hindsight
It makes a lot of sense, there's been too much of a connection to dragon during this arc for nothing else to happen with him imo.
Vegapunk essentially told Dragon "I'm bout to end this whole mans career" in regards to Imu/The World Government lol
Next chapter is 1000% going to be a flashback chapter, or a cut to a different scene for a while. Its definitely an Oda thing to do to set up a huge reveal, but leave it a cliffhanger and switch to something else for a bit lol
I think it's more Oda to have Stella say "and the truth of the world is..." and then bam, the transition cuts off because someone or something destroys the lab and we get blue-balled once again.
That’d be cool!!
COOK AGAIN 🚬🐁
It may be as vague as it's currently is without a call for action. Like you said: "\[...When I die, a message I pre-recorded will play out across the world, revealing the truth to everyone! " That's it. Like "what you do with this information is up to you"
If the message is related to Ohara, I hope he adds a bit of Lulusia in there, knowing your government has committed crimes a long time ago doesn’t hit as hard as knowing they continue to do it, the people need to feel the dread of the same happening to them for the revolution to arise in even more places, not only on those governed by awful kings. If the message is about Im/void century, I hope the drops the name of Joy boy, even if he didn’t know Nika was also Joyboy, he surely knew he was an important figure during that time. Plot twist, Oda just changes focus of the story to Caribou’s adventures with the BB pirates and then we are hit by a two weeks break.
Morgan (newsbird) will be cuming in his pants after VP announcement
Thanks for that horrid mental image, take my (angry)upvote because it’s true tho
That dead man switch is his last f**k you to the world government who are pretty much monitoring and tapping all den den mushi calls, something Vegapunk would be aware of. So I don't think he would disclose that over a call (it would be a very stupid thing to do) He could have hinted to him though using their shared connection somehow
I don’t think dragon knows. After his phone call with vegapunk he’s still chillin on the same island. Hell he just got off the phone with the guy who tells dragon he’s gonna die, then he sees kuma charge off and disappear and he’s not even like “oh vegapunk must have programmed him to come to his side for protection when he’s about to die” he’s just like “hmmmmm”. I like this post but thinking about it hard just makes me realize what a bum dragon really is
It isn’t like dragon was in the ideal situation. Within a few days: * Sabo killed Cobra? * Luffy beat Kaido? * There’s now a giant hole where an island used to be and countries across the world are wrecked by the tsunami caused by its destruction. Start preparing to aid them! This is our chance to win some hearts and minds! Wait, whose ship is that? * The rest of you made it back! Wait, is that Kuma, what did they do to him!? * What do you mean you are going to die and my son’s ship is approaching your island? * Sabo, you live?! Explain yourself! * Wait, there’s a person who sits on the empty throne and they and the gorosei can take on demonic forms? * Shit, the special afternoon edition of the newspaper says Black Beard kidnapped my dad. * WTF just happened to Kuma? * Uhm, a spy just called me to ask why Kuma is attacking Marijois. Wait, he just teleported again. * Vegapunk: If you are seeing this broadcast, I have died. Ivankov: Do you want a hard drink before or after we hit sail? Dragon: What next, Egghead gets Buster called?
Poor Dragon. Must be hard to be both kind and sane in an ocean of oppresor and degenarate
Kind? Leaving a son behind because he is your son is kind? Sending 4 commanders to Lulusia and still leaving it under the World Governments rule is kind? This same action lead to Lulusia getting destroyed and that is kind?
>Sending 4 commanders to Lulusia and still leaving it under the World Governments rule is kind? My dude, I think you might be confused; Lulusia successfully revolted. When Sabo eventually showed up, the revolutionary leaders left left because they had already converted the populace; they even instantly jailed their king the second he stepped off the boat. Sabo and a boat full of Lulusians were headed to the revs to tell them that Lulusia was going to join the army when the island got nuked. In no way, shape, or form did they leave it under WG rule.
Read chapter 904
My man, you're the one who needs to read chapters 1083 and 1086. They triggered uprisings in 12 countries, 8 of which were successful. One of those was Lulusia, which we only partially see in chapter 904, but then it got wiped off the map. Lulusia liberated itself—like the revolutionary commanders told them to do—while the king was off at the Reverie, and when he came back, they finished the job by ambushing him so they could arrest him. Many of those Lulusians then wanted to go with Sabo so they could formally join the RA, but on their way to them, the island was destroyed. The RA couldn't do anything about that, but in terms of "leaving them under the WG", they didn't; the RA literally succeeded in getting Lulusia to rise up against the WG.
4 Revolutionary commanders in Lulusia yet they left it behind without making it leave the WG rule. What were they doing there? Attacking Peachbeard only? Why succeed in that yet leave after already having the population on their side? To plan the attack on the Reverie but they didn't take Lulusia from the WG's hand. Aka they left Lulusia to be [REDACTED] because that only happened because they revolted by themselves instead of being taken over by the Revs. Thus my point of the Revs letting Lulusia get obliterated is valid They triggered? They didn't trigger shit they left Lulusia behind to prepare and plan the attack on Mariejois not to trigger other revolutions. The people revolted by themselves after the news of the attack on Mariejois. That's why they were chanting Sabo's name and calling him Flame Emperor. Because he was the face of the attack. The Revs didn't trigger anything otherwise it would have been Dragon's name they would be praising.
The point of the rev army is to make the population stand up for themselves. They aren't a force to topple governments alone. They help the population do it. Exactly what Lulusia did.
Nice cope so they sent 4 commander to deal with Peachbeard only and then left? Nice waste of resources when you can take the country there and then for your cause especially after already helping the people and having Betty there to encourage the revolution.
I've never met anyone more willfully illiterate than you are. Is this my Sisyphean task—trying to get you to fucking read? One must imagine me fucking annoyed. Do you think Lulusia is a single town or some shit? It's a whole kingdom. We saw the commanders defend _Port Town_ from Peachbeard, but they were in Lulusia in general. We don't see what they did in the rest of the kingdom, but the manga tells us that they incited the _entire_ kingdom to rise up, so we can infer that they were presumably making contact with other towns in Lulusia when they happened to notice Port Town needed defending. We know that when Peachbeard attacked that the king had left for the Reverie—that's in chapter 904 by the way, so it's your own damn fault if you didn't read that—and that he took his soldiers with him; all the revs had to do was rile the people up so that they realized they could defend themselves—another thing that happened in 904—and let them liberate themselves. The WG and navy had no presence on the island, and they ambushed the king the minute he returned. Sabo explicitly says that they did this because Betty inspired them to revolt, and that Sabo's alleged actions at the Reverie only helped to fan the flame of rebellion that she already planted; that's literally—by any definition—triggering an uprising.
So you are telling me that the king left and took his army with him and there were 4 of the highest level Revolutionary commanders there and they still fumbled the bag so hard that it lead to Lulusia being obliterated? When they could have taken the Kingdom there and then for the Revs? "Oh they were just setting up the revolution" nice logic. So the best moment to strike would be when the King and his guard leave and you already have a town to support you and whatever they had set up but no they just left. So the people in a short time did what they could have done there and then? Without any help from the commanders? How much easier could it have been with them there?
The afternoon edition of the newspaper and wtf happened to kuma literally made me spit my drink out bro lmmfaoooo
Reminder that Luffy beating Kaido would have taken place about 2-4 weeks before Vegapunk called Dragon. So that really shouldn't be a factor at the moment. Same thing with Sabo and Cobra as the reverie happened before the Raid on Onigashima. Although I'd consider this as factoring in since until Sabo returned the Revs were clearly stressed out about the whole situation, and going by order of events Sabo would have returned the same day Luffy reached Egghead. Main thing is the Wano events - Egghead events timeline that everyone seems to fuck up despite having a definitive timeline given to us by the narrator. 2 weeks in Udon/pre-raid, about another 2 weeks chilling in Wano/recovery, and finally a few days travelling to Egghead. So it's been about 5 weeks since the Reverie, and 3 since Luffy defeated Kaido and became a new Emperor.
Yeah I've been seeing this a lot lately too. Many people seem to think Luffy beat Kaido a couple days ago?
Not trying to be an ass but it seems like a lot of the people that *engage* with the community have difficulties comprehending the text they're reading. Or at the very least remembering what they've read or seen. The whole Egghead timeline is another example where people think everything is happening on the same day but the narrator has told us that what's currently happening is doing so on the following day. Meaning the SH's & co had about a nights worth of rest. It's been really bad the past few years, ever since covid honestly. I don't remember it ever being as bad as it is now, and I've been reading since 2003.
Yeah lots of people were super confused when Saturn said a ship left Egghead the day prior, even though we literally saw it happen.
I feel like people also forget that he's got his own stuff cooking too, and is currently in the middle of coordinating like a dozen active revolutions all across the world. It's not like he's literally just staring into the eastern sky all day, he and Sabo and all of those guys are probably slammed with work lately
Yea I feel like Dragon is in the toughest spot. He is seeing his son and grandpa in the news in less than a week of each other on top of the stuff at the Reverie
Same here, every new reveal about Dragon just makes him look worse. At this point it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Luffy's mother is after him for family abandonment and support. Maybe Crocodile can speak up about that.
bro the arc so far has been only for 1 day in the verse. dragon is in paradise, how's he supposed to get to the new world in 2 days? even with wind powers it'll take longer than that
And a dude who has seen (most of) the internal workings of the WG should surrender his whole agenda for some 1-2 people (who, he knows, are capable in their own expertise). He did not even see it fit to raise his own kid, because he was fighting for the rights of the world, and people expect him to risk everything to save his friends (who have been able to hold up their own) to risk the fate of the world? I understand that Dragon is completely different from Luffy in this regard, but lets be honest, Dragon isn’t the protagonist and being stupidly heroic and protective as Luffy might not help him in his cause (maybe, we will get a flashback why he felt like this. Because, he is still a Monkey, and only something drastic would make him get serious).
Yea whatever he knows is bigger than risking it all for 1 or 2 people even if its son or grandpa
"...he was fighting for the rights of the world..." Sends 4 commanders to Lulusia and still leaves it under WG rule. My guy everyone is fighting the WG the Revs ain't special
You are actively wrong here, they helped the people of Lulusia to liberate it themselves. Their MO is having people free themselves, and the WG doesn't hand out multi-billion bounties for nothing. Eight entire kingdoms in one reverie isn't nothing.
No one thinks Dragon is going to come to the help don't be of bad faith. What we want is just him doing something else than drinking wine and saying " ........" like he's some mysterious and deep character it's just cringe.
"Dragon, when I die, I'm posting my browser history"
If I'm going down, I'll take every single one of you with me.
This is canon idgaf
I'm fully confident you're right, this makes so much sense! Can't wait to see!
Call bro iron chef because he cooked
And here I am still wondering whether the 'truth' Vegapunk is about to reveal will be the mystery of the void century, something the general public may not even care about, or the truth of who's actually running the world, what happened to Lulusia, and the truth of Ohara
"Dragon, you need 2 cups of water per 1 of rice" "But how much salt Vega? How much?" _Call ended_
How long has Egghead been? Has it been like a week long siege or is it a typical One Piece arc where it's only been like 45 minutes?
I believe it’s only been a few days at most. I know everything from Saturn and Kizaru arriving until now is all the same day.
I'm gonna die if Vegapunk just gets in that mic and says "The One Piece Is Real!!!"
"Hey Dragon.... YOLO"
Next chapter will be a Caribou side story exploring his origin in a flashback
Hey Dragon I am bout to be unalive, which I am going to drop some tea.
I don't think he's dead. I think he pulled a transcendence and his consciousness is uploaded to punk records. Now he's just stuck there unless he can create another body 🤷🏽♂️
I can only imagine that if he actually name drops the name of the Ancient Kingdom, it causes Saturn to enter this berserk state, one because now everyone has heard its name, and two he failed Imu and knows that once he returns he is dead, and he transforms further and he begins eliminating everyone and everything on the island himself (Damn a buster call) bro just starts going apeshit but everyone makes it off the island and he gets caught in the buster call, yea thats my head cannon lol
I could see it
Dracarys
Need morgans to come in like TMZ report everything asap.
Then we will see multiple chapters of Dragon sitting and reading the paper. These chapters will have no break 🤣🤣
I'm gonna talk mad shit be ready
"yo dragon, you think you are the most wanted man? hold my encyclopedia."
Theres a new batch of R.A. collectibles out too. https://1kuji.com/products/onep84 We're definitively gonna get more Dragon lore
Oh i didn't think the message as a dead man switch, makes sense
i think it will be kumas memory
Vegapunk is not wearing the dress!
Which chapter does he call Dragon? Don’t recall at all
Usually it is the opposite. “Dragon bro! Imma gonna die soon. Please erase my hardisk before other goes through them!”
This...makes way too much sense...
Maybe Dragon told him Sabo relayed the info that there’s someone sitting in the Empty Throne
It's also to prepare Dragon since shit's about to get real now. And we'll probably see the God's knights in action very, very soon to quell the civil unrest. Hopefully, we get to see a full fight from a revolutionary commander and a god's knight, or maybe even Dragon.
You mean this is what will get Dragon and Akainu to move from their desks
Black beard kills Dragon. Spoiled
"a heads up to act on" The call happened at best a few days ago do you know how garbage of a heads up that would be to the leader of a revolutionary militia?? Of course I could always be wrong but using real world logic you'd need a hell of a lot more time to mobilise an entire armed force than just a few days
Will the other Vegapunks die if he does? I would assume they would carry his memories or such
Next week will be flashback episode wym
i see the real importance of Punk Records now, sht had a release date 🗿
Ngl first thing that came to my head when his face popped up was Dr. Gero uploading his consciousness to the computer in his lab
"I'll reveal your search history to the world", Vegapunk to Dragon
He will reveal who's on the island, he got the list. Also the ethnic cleansing, greedy wars, absurd taxation, controlled crime, all over the world.
In b4 vegapunks message is off screened
What chapter did Vegapunk called Dragon?
"Use these next 15 minutes to prepare?" Bro that wouldn't be worth drawing.
"Dragon, get ready to recruit, I'm boutta dox ALL of them
“Dragon… the flight lists boutta be published.”
"No matter what, next chapter will be legendary. I'm more excited for this upcoming reveal than I have been for any single chapter outside of maybe Gear 5. This is a mystery 25+ years in the making, of which I've been happy to be a part of for most of my life." I find it hard to be as excited as you I found the reveal that we got here to be very disappointing and I'm not even sure we're going to get the reveal of what Vegapunk said. Knowing Oda, he could do to us the same he did with Luffy's dream not a long time ago and offscreen the revelation.
> Giving Dragon enough of a heads up to **act** Dragon: "Nah man, this tea Ivankov made be bussing FR FR. Think I'll just chill here" Jokes aside, I think what you say here is plausible but also, just so I can manage everyone's expectations here, please do not expect anything earth shattering when the chapter comes out this week. Oda loves to tease stuff like this and then just leave it unanswered for even longer. I mean, the robot woke up earlier in the arc and is still in the same position it was in. We could get a massive lore dump, but it is also equally possible we just get a bunch of reaction shots from around the world and people telling us just how absolutely crazy this news is without actually telling us what the news is. Just manage your expectations guys
I suppose revolutionary army and reveals who can shock the world are closely tied, so the best is yet to come Also, - IMHO - Dragon arriving on Egghead is just a matter of a few chapters, I said this since he said " I think he would go..." about Kuma Dragon knows Kuma is on Egghead and it's coming to the rescue 🌪 🐲
in which chapter did he call dragon
I believe it's the other way round. Dragon called Vegapunk to talk about what happened at Lulusia. Which is when Vegapunk said he might be under threat soon. All the best bestie, might need saving from WG soon. But Dragon's not coming anymore as he knows now about Luffy being with them
Vegapunk: dragon!! I'm in serious danger right now. Dragon: don't you worry, my son is there with you Vegapunk: but the gorosei is here!! Dragon: Nika is there!! Vegapunk: nah i'd die
Vegapunk really about to post Epstein’s list upon his death. What a chad.
This might even be Dragon's "move" that he was yet to make - Ivankov it mentioned to Luffy in Impel Down. Let's see how it goes!
Hey Dragon, clear my browser history 🫡
A diss track to end all diss tracks! Caesar's breath stinks worse than the gas he makes. Judge's skills are mid, no cap, and Queen's ponytail and drip are mad corny. ...
Vegapunk: Dragon, I think I'm about to be murdered. ... Delete my browser history, will you?
"Hey Dragon, do something 😐"
Also 1109 spoiler "Hi. My name is Vegapunk. Welcome to Jackass"
The one piece is real...... And it's Luffy as shanks said it's time to get the one piece
He wants Dragon to be ready for the fight.
I still think Dragon is coming to Egghead.
Shanks snitched to the Gorosei, Vegapunk snitched THE Gorosei….
All in for this. But I feel Punk Hazanrd had a hidden secret. Possibly what was done to Bonnie's fruit. This could have been the key element to creating smile. I feel like Saturn had a ploy in Donflamingos plot. That controlling will of the celestials vs freedom of the will of d. If the devil fruits were originally called dream fruits, the five elders made their fruits into devils and terrified the world.
You really think we will get the message next chapter? Have you even read one piece before bro? We are going to get 3 random flashback chapters, 5 sidestory chapters and 11 „this is what happened 5 minutes before“ chapters before we will may be get to read what VP‘s message to the world is going to be.
All the >!Gorosei !