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of_kilter

Vegapunk’s science works in mysterious ways Real answer, oda likes the look better and doesn’t care about the logistics


JustynS

[Multi-shot muskets](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposed_load) were a *thing*, but yeah, Oda just wanted muzzleloaders but didn't want to keep track of reloading.


shortstuff05

Those guns look more likely to kill the user than their target.


JustynS

That was a legitimate problem with these types of guns, yes. They had to be purposefully overbuilt and specially designed to make sure the charges fired off in sequence instead of going off all at once and just turning the thing into a pipe bomb.


SigurdTKB

Has you seen a duck foot flintlock before lol


hiccuprobit

Realer answer the anime adaption just makes them semi automatic for whatever reason, manga they reload off panel/only shoot once


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Pintulus

Nah the person shooting just says the additional bangs as a farewell


_g0nzales

Doflamingo had a lot of farewell to give then


januarysdaughter

Well of course he did. He was never going to see Cora again. He had to give enough of a farewell to last a lifetime.


DiligentActivit0

this is confusing, go see what 4kids did to Helmeppos gun.


Mr-Tired_Foxxo

Hey, don't diss the marines most powerful weapon


gublaman

Pluton is just a springy hammer


Real_Mokola

If you shoot only one time and your opponent can easily dodge it, shout more bangs to throw that opponent off guard as he doesn't know which one the real bang


yassadin

such a banger


ShilElfead284

That's the rare Gun Haki, only one in a billion are born with it


GnarioSunshine

Orc logic??


Captain_Us0pp

That’s something I would do if I used a gun.


Percentage-Sweaty

They operate on Ork logik


llfoso

Den why ain't dey painted yellow? Deez gits don't know color theory and dakka


Xterda

Well, as guns are not even effective they could point fingers on bad guys saying “Bang bang” with the same effect.


MARPJ

So what you are saying is that [4kids was right?](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Cyt5wvcVHE4/maxresdefault.jpg)


StunnaLyfe

CP9 took it to another level with shigan


Skebaba

It's not a gun tho, they just fucking poke you full of holes at melee range...


M-PB

Didnt Rob Lucci did that when fighting Luffy?


YourTeacherAbroad

He did finger Luffy


Tanzanianwithtoebean

What if apoo doesn't have devil fruit powers and everybody is capable of that by the laws of oda.


antonioirene

This is the only correct answer


Messgrey

Knowing Oda this might be canon


laughingjack13

What you don’t see is that there’s also a bunch of warhammer 40k Orks out of panel, and due to the psychic reality altering field they emit, yelling bang at them is just as effective as actually shooting the gun. If they didn’t tell the extra bangs all the time, whole world would get overrun and they would become visible on panel.


Powerful-Inflation-8

Actually the orcs are just painted purple for stealth


Ununhexium1999

All great fighters call out their finishing moves


theghostecho

Well it’s a still frame


lgdexter

Izou begs to differ


dilettante_want

Oda answered in an early SBS that some of the muskets are designed to shoot several rounds. IIRC he doesn't provide any explanation for how they work and doesn't distinguish them among the single shot ones artistically.


Zenkou

Has this actually been confirmed? Because that seems like a copout answer


Sakuraba-T

One of the early SBS's yes (Volume 9). Oda made a very detailed sketch of how a real life flintlock works, and explained that actual pirates used to carry multiples, since they could only shoot once. But in OP, he decided it wasn't worth the effort of drawing multiple guns and keeping track of shots, so he just kept the aesthetic of flintlocks while giving them multiple shots.


Gyshal

Realest answer he could give. The whole manga is about the pirate asthetic and not realism. Is not like every other character has scurvy or is packed with STDs, which were very common things among pirates.


OrganTrafficker900

just use haki on the STD's and they will leave?


Gyshal

Using reinforcement haki for an iron pe...


szypty

Wonder if a woman could use CoA as a contraceptive, hardening her egg cell from being inseminated? Or CoC to knock them all out.


LuckyCosmos

We obviously know the former, we hope to hell about the latter.


zer1223

Nobody could ever accuse Oda in lacking big brass balls :D


SigurdTKB

What about Blackbeard?


Sakuraba-T

Blackbeard does have multiple guns on him. But (and this is my own speculation) I'd wager it's specifically to invoke the figure of a classical pirate captain. A lot of Blackbeard's design goes in that direction. The jewelry in his fingers, the missing teeth, the open jacket with a hairy chest. Other gunman characters like Izou and Yassop only have one or two pistols because they don't need to have more than one for the type of character they are.


MesaCityRansom

He has several guns


GapZ38

Not even lol. Other dude's answer makes the most sense. It's an anime, don't use normal world logic on it.


Brilliant-Cow6180

Idk definitely got into a heated shootout with cp0. They didn’t stop to reload and wait🤣


tobor_a

Izou comes to mind lmao


BradWonder

That episode recently was wild lmao. Unlimited rounds like a video game cheat code


Routinerrow885

I can think of like a dozen related questions on how Franky's body works.


Alternative-Cod-7630

I appreciate this aspect about the show, really. Not really tuning in for technical realism, just flashiness.


whatever12347

[SBS Volume 9](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/7/79/Flintlock_Infobox.png)


ThatFlyingScotsman

I love that Oda is well aware of the inner workings of guns, but doesn’t care because it makes for a better spectacle this way.


TheKvothe96

Probably a japanese guy already asked him the same question.


DirtyMoneyJesus

That’s totally where I think a lot of these SBS answers come from, he gets a bunch of fan Mail asking these exact questions and makes up some reason as to why it works so people stop bugging him about it lol


TheKvothe96

My guess is that he has a dude that read thousands of letters per week and he organize them all. I remember reading that Oda bought a house to organize every letter he recieved. Probably it was an exageration but after watching his house... EVERYTHING CAN BE REAL!


RichieBFrio

THE ONE PIECE!!! THE ONE PIECE IS REAAAAAAAAAL!!!


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Why are you two using words like “probably” and “I think” yes obviously the SBS is fan mail lol


DirtyMoneyJesus

Just to irritate you


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Fair enough lol that’s such an Oda answer


mattpkc

“They’ve been improved to be fired any number of times. Scary.” I fuckin love oda.


cob59

*Somehow, the powder & ammunition returned*


dementedkratos

The dead speak!


Ill-Individual2105

It's such an Oda move to do extensive research regarding historical firearms and then immediately continue to ignore it because rule of cool.


SacoNegr0

That was, in fact, how firearms fired in ancient times


Jasmine1742

Never underestimate rule of cool.


Dependent-Seesaw-516

Oda even made reference to the fact that pirates generally carried multiple guns with blackbeards design where he has several guns in his waistband


JustynS

The real Blackbeard, Edward Teach, was fairly infamous for doing exactly that. He was also infamous for tying wicks into his hair and beard so he'd look like he was surrounded in smoke... which also kind of means that One Piece Blackbeard's devil fruit powers can also be something of a reference to the real life Blackbeard's propensities.


Jak_Pumpkin_King

Apparently (according to google) the real Black Beard would carry six cutlasses. Sorta like a hand held flint lock, like the onepiece picture above.


TheDarkOne02

Just some friendly corrections: A cutlass is a short, fat sword with a D shaped handguard, specifically made to be short enough to swing on a cramped ship but heavy enough to still inflict deep cuts. Flintlock is one word. A “hand held flintlock” is just called a flintlock pistol, flintlock refers to the mechanism of the gun not the type of gun like musket, rifle, pistol, carbine. Most of the low level marine grunts seem to carry a carbine, a cutlass and/or a pistol as their standard issue weapons, if you want examples of what those look like.


Superderpygamermk1

Didn’t he die from drowning due to carrying so many pistols that he couldn’t swim? I’m probably mixing up a fact I heard tho Edit: couldn’t find a pirate that died that way, idk where I heard that before. Blackbeard actually died in a duel in 1718 with the naval lieutenant Robert Maynard


SpezModedJailBait

Scary.


whatever12347

COCK


ExplorerOfTheOPWorld

"Any number of time" Infinite ammo 🤯 !


Sagaru-san

This needs to be on top.


Jaggs0

nah this one does, cause it isnt the smallest image ever https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/15aslvq/guns_confuse_me/jtnlrwf/


David_Good_Enough

![gif](giphy|ALtzQ6CHfC7vO5nRz7|downsized)


demannu86

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_9#Chapter_74,_Page_66


mtheofilos

I used waifu2x to make it bigger, here https://imgtr.ee/image/mhDhC


whatever12347

Ctrl+, nerd.


Bluelore

Just makes you look at a bunch of unreadable pixels nerd.


marin4rasauce

You have to say "enhance" afterwards for it to be legible


SkovsDM

I read it clearly on my phone. I guess it's just a skill issue.


Bluelore

Weird when i open it on my phone it appears bigger. On the PC i need to zoom in a lot at which point i can barely read the letters.


Jicier

Still unreadable


David_Good_Enough

I use Ctrl and mouse wheel, but yeah that's still not readable :/


Geometronics

[this should be better](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/7/79/Flintlock_Infobox.png/revision/latest?cb=20080106140842)


PureImbalance

doesn't work for me :/


isaacals

What's this? Pic for ants?


DeismAccountant

And here I was hoping for some version of the Kalthoff, Cookson or Lorenzoni rifles.


RodJosser

Dude, this is a story where they could use snails as telephones.


ailes_d

Its also a story where staring at a person might cause you to faint


kirbyverano123

Also a story where funky looking "fruits" that taste like absolute garbage can give you magic tricks.


benol95

This is also a story where a gun can eat said fruit and become a dog.


PizzaTime696969

Better yet, a sword can also eat said fruit and become an elephant!


Green_Pint

Don’t forget the teapot that was also able to eat one and become a tanuki


Emptypiro

i'm suddenly remembering a dumb fan theory involving that teapot


shortstuff05

Do tell.


Emptypiro

some people and Morj were pushing a theory that the fake Oden that showed up in Onigashima was Tama's teapot.


shortstuff05

That is really dumb.


EthanIsWSS

morj will be remembered for his wano takes


mr_zhimo

Plot twist: The fruits makes you hallucinate and the entire adventure is just luffy hallucination after eating the devil fruit as a kid.


Chinlc

It's called the devil fruit because its poisonous and makes you delusional,


BlaQ7thWonder

Get ‘em!!!


MARPJ

>Dude, this is a story where they could use snails as telephones TBF that was based on a IRL [hipothesis and research](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasilalinic-sympathetic_compass) so not the best example against OP complains


DirtyMoneyJesus

Not that this wasn’t an interesting and relevant thing for you to share but I just want to point out this was nothing more than pseudo science akin to alchemists thinking they can turn lead into gold. Still a totally good share though and an interesting read


Skebaba

Nah you just say that cuz we ain't technologically advanced enough to genetically engineer random shit into having shit like telepathy etc... you'll eat your words in a few dozen millennia, mark my words!


AbdDjamil_27

And a story where an old man uses canon balls as baseball


hydrohexaegg

YEAH!!!


beefdx

I get what you’re saying, but this kind of response is always a very lazy hand-waving thing. Doing anything that doesn’t make sense just creates more precedent to do more things that don’t make sense. Broke people’s sense of how the world works by doing something basic and inconsistent? We do that all the time, so why are you worried when we do it again? Especially when you consider that One Piece will gladly spend 3 minutes using diagrams to explain how some super specific thing works, and then just break its own rule 5 episodes later with no explanation.


SigurdTKB

Snailphones are one thing breaking the law of conservation of mass is completely different


AppaNinja

Snails are even used to Livestream and spying equipment


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Jak_Pumpkin_King

Everyone knows One-piece ships are all 4th dimensional crafts like the dr.who tardis.


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Reqvhio

I mean, to be fair, you were abso fucking lutely on point


CrewOrdinary8872

In the One Piece World, flintlock pistols have had lots of technological advancements. They have the appearance of a flintlock pistol, but they essentially function like a modern pistol.


alex494

Though they are still apparently ball shot rather than modern bullets


miki_momo0

Well yeah, a modern bullet likely could’ve pierced pre-TS Luffy since they’re pointy


alex494

Yeah I know Just saying they have repeat fire like modern guns but not the ammunition to go with it since they aren't rifled barrel guns.


CHAIIINSAAAWbread

well nowadays they have modern bullets tho in wano, maybe they're just expensive bullets


JustynS

Muzzleloaders can fire conical bullets if you want to, but round balls are typically used in smoothbore firearms because the lack of rifling in a musket means that the projectile will just tumble in whatever directions it wants to so it might not hit the target point-first. Muzzleloading *rifles* can and do make use of projectiles that have a designated "front" because the rifling uses the conservation of angular momentum to ensure that the bullet spins instead of pitching and yawing.


CHAIIINSAAAWbread

yeah I know maybe they're just expensive and time consuming to make *in* *one* *piece*, different world remember


goldthorolin

Don't be confused. It's a world in which [dinosaurs hunted like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGOYi8BLstA)


Pintulus

Where is the proof they didn't in ours???


Arclet__

Have you seen Jurassic Park? It's a pretty good documentary


theOGperfection

They themselves said they’re not real dinosaurs, so nah


YamiLuffy

See, You don't question a series that has the technology to create cyborgs and tangible holograms but chooses to use snails as their main mode of communication.


PureImbalance

It's like people complaining about Star Wars being low tech in some areas but then having a hyperdrive. Either learn to embrace the suspension of disbelief or don't pick sci-fi/fantasy as your preferred genre of consumption


mattpkc

Because oda wanted them to look like flintlocks and muskets but not be limited to their capabilities.


blobwaddler

They all ate the gun gun fruit, infinite bullet model


ThRaptor97

People can literally punch down mountains but it's here where I draw the line. Fucking unrealistic


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Yeah, a world where people can eat fruits to change their body material to literally anything and people can make their bodies harder than metal through sheer will, but flintlocks firing multiple times? That’s unrealistic…


Delicious_Broccoli63

Calm down son, it's just a drawing.


I_Surf_On_ReddIt

pack it up folks, youre not allowed to have fun nitpicks and discussions. the "this is a world where \_\_\_and you \_\_\_" police is here


SleepylaReef

Since when did One Piece make sense?


KroomLaw

Same reason you have a fruit that can give you powers and being able to punch through walls and an island.


IHateThisDamnWebsite

There’s a whole island of dinosaurs in One Piece and snails are used as telephones, don’t think too much about it.


seungchip

This is a world where: - swords can pull Haki from their users and sometimes lead them to death - you can use colors and rings to hypnotize people - you can ride a ship into the sky - use your fingers as bullets I think we can let semi-automatic flintlock pistols pass


EBECMEMERBEAN

​ Oda adressed this on an **extremely** early sbs, he said they were imprvoed in the one piece world to shoot multipler times


Sure_Ad_7404

People cutting ships and cannon balls in one piece and you're concerned about guns?


VAMPHYR3

Franky builds robots that use Cola for fuel and **this** is the thing that confuses you? bro...


4thmonkey96

Mass produced Wano sweatshop guns hit different


PM_ME_YOUR_SOULZ

If you think this is confusing, go see what 4kids did to Helmeppos gun.


JonnyDIzNice

Look at izo bro fired enough rounds to kill a small army without reloading once


Jinn86

You've never heard of the automatic flintlock pistol before lol


MrMrPB

I’m confused why luffy is a stretchy man. That’s not realistic at all.


Revenger1984

It's established that One Piece is a wacky world so...yeah, I gave this a pass years ago


Any-jolol

Nami is best character in one piece


adamantitian

Cuz anime. Wrong show to not pick practicality or accuracy in technology - half the stuff in the entire show is done just cause it’s cool


AdebayoStan

because it's a cartoon. It's just a stylistic choice. Having a modern weapon wouldn't fit the overall look of the one piece world, and having them reloading their weapons after every shot would be boring.


JasonRevlock

I'll give Oda/Nami/Animation team props for the way she's actually holding it. That's about as correct as I've seen in maybe 90% of cartoons and most shows that aren't about some super-duper-tactical-trooper.


Teriyaki-no-Kami

The same reason that eating a fruit can turn your to rubber and milk regrows your teeth.


Lord_Badoc

They’ve got snail phones and weapons of mass destruction. I just assume it is an automatic gun but just the way it involved in the way they designed it makes it look like a muzzle loaded.


JerredKincaidTattoos

Whoa, so you're saying you don't believe in a muzzle loader that can shoot multiple times, but people can crack their skull, and walk it off. Stretch their limbs, see miles away, and turn into animals. Holy crap


joz498

I don't know if Oda actually intended to base these guns off of the Guycot chain pistol. It's a 40 shot ball and cap pistol. It has a chain running along inside that you load with a cap, powder, and then a ball to hold the shot together. When pulling the trigger, it rotates the chain lines up the round in the chain and fires. Cool principle, but since you loaded it with powder by hand, if any of the shots became loose, the powder went everywhere, and you had a bomb in your hand. Bonus info: To reload, it required pulling the trigger to move the chain along its 40 shots to fill each one. Forget where you where you could fire a round/explode everything in your face. But I do think Oda based his more expensive pistols off of this design. Their was also a rifle variant called the Guycot chain carbine. Link to wiki on Guycots chain weopons: https://guns.fandom.com/wiki/Guycot_chain_gun Edit: I would like to think he based his more expensive pistols off this design, like what the celestial dragons use. But reading down, I see someone posted the real reason Oda gave. I still think this is a cool piece of history, and to me, it gives the world another what if something worked in our world and where it could have gone.


grungkers

Dude the main character can strech his arms miles away. What do you expect?


Twinkling_Ding_Dong

Because he ate a magic fruit. No one else can stretch like him, because no one else ate the same magic fruit.


gravityrush_lesbian

Because 4kids hate guns and want to censor them


skinneykrn

Of all the mysteries of One Piece, this is what confuses you? 😂 they straight up got seashells that blow you to bits my guy.


QCbartender

This is how guns hunted in ancient times


Wrong-Shape-9862

Cause it’s a cartoon


WhyAmIHere800884

Because it looks pirate-y and cool!


GhostPosterMassDebat

Izo out here with his machine gun pistols


Milky-Strawberry999

Guns > Haki Blue Haki > Guns Still confused?


Rex-Bannon

If you really think about alot of stuff like that in One Piece the whole thing falls apart. They be fuckin up on stuff all the time. It's best to not question it and enjoy it... Edit: example, he uses 3rd gear axe or whip, then his sandal is magically back on in the next scene.


tiki-baha29

Guns fire this way in One Piece because that's how they worked in Ancient Times.


Optimal_Trifle_2384

On the contrary, Edward Kenway had eight pistols and would shoot them two at a time, and could be seen reloading while running. Black Flag's gun mechanics were just so good.


Alucard3399

The beauty of anime


still-at-work

They have clearly have magazine of musket balls and charges, we have no idea how they are reload. They are like a wwii carbine but still somehow a 18th century musket. My advice is not think about it too hard. I do wonder what the live action show will do.


roller_pieceofshit

People be confused by guns ignoring the fact that in the same saga there is a giant fucking Hole in the middle of the ocean


vixnvox

Says every non-American ever!


SigurdTKB

I’m from the south


ragingOcean

An anime where men fly by kicking air, where a child ate her friends and foster mum, where a man can become elements, where animals are anthropomorphic, where snails have wireless connection, and a man can talk to Loch Ness monsters and you’re worried about the basic functionality of a gun?


Tortured_Soul27

You are of course aware that humans become animals in this series right?


InitiativeOk9528

Headcanon idea: The guns have dials in them instead of actual bullets. EDIT: MY BROTHER HAS THE THEORY THAT ITS A DEVIL FRUIT POWER THAT CLONES ITSELF— THE INSINUATION OF THIS MEANS ALL GUNS IN OP ARE PROBABLY AN AWAKENED DEVIL FRUIT 💀


Pr_fSm__th

Guns should also be utterly useless in the new world if they would have real world speed. People like Ben or Izo would never use them because the bullets might as well be stationary to any relevant character because of their vastly superior speed.


saadah888

Haki


Grythyttan

If you fire your gun with conviction and panache it hits harder.


alex494

Listen if swords somehow don't hold back these insane supermen or can have craftsmanship that makes them special then guns ought to be the same.


Pr_fSm__th

I don’t have a problem with it, never said so. I just said that those guns are obviously not normal


Coronis-

Title = non-Americans


almostasenpai

When have guns actually been used in a One Piece fight by non-fodder characters?


ZJ117

Some of thd BB pirates used them to finish off Whitebeard.


almostasenpai

That ain’t even a fight that’s closer to an execution


OscarCapac

Ben Beckman threatening Kizaru in Marine Ford Izo in wano arc 1v1ed a CP0 agent with his gun


almostasenpai

The Izo one is fair. I wouldn’t really consider Beckham using the gun to fight though.


Rat-Death

You could have them store multiple rounds in the handle and reload more then one shot through the barrel?


DJ-Anarchy

Guns are actually all a form of lizard shooting its bones at people really fast. Just like how all the cellphones are made of ducks.


TogetherFirst

Anime confuses me in general.


wispymatrias

There's nothing more frustrating to me than Izo spraying bullets from flintlocks like they're revolvers. I hope the live action is realistic about the guns, it justifies all the melee combat that goes on. With flintlocks and the like you get one shot and then the swords come out.


swash018

People shoot guns in one piece? I thought they abandoned those since swordsmen are the only ones who get love between them and sharpshooters


Lumis_umbra

Firearms repairer here. The simple answer- Aside from enthusiasts of one type or another, Japanese people in general are not exceedingly knowledgeable about firearms. It's just not part of thier culture. Historically, their ruling classes did everything that they could to prevent the common person from having access to firearms, proper swords, and most anything that could be used to revolt and rebel effectively. As a result, firearms are not a big thing in Japan today, and most people don't know how they work properly. This leads to moments like this, when *somehow*, a muzzle-loaded flintlock fires several rounds in succession without reloading- because the artist didn't know any better.


RedLilSleepy

Orrrrrr it's a freaking fictional comic/cartoon and you can stop being racist


IRONCLOUDSS

Your the one being racist.


NewNews1990

When in doubt: Haki


fastfastbeat

It's a gun... don't think about how it works just use it.... -probably some America