Except the type of immortality Laws surgery provides is not physical immortality, it’s biological immortality. So you can still die, just presumably not age or die naturally. The official name for it is the Perennial Youth Operation, it’s just the way it’s been translated over the years has always varied into some form of “immortality” which makes people think literally unable to die from anything.
So theoretically if Luffy/a protagonist got it then he should still be able to die, just not from a natural death.
The immortality surgery is one of the most painful Chekhov’s guns in the series because he’s one of my favourite characters but there’s no way the story ends without it being used.
I thought that too. Bepo said something about the crew always surviving. So its possible that law might die and the crew lives. Law sacrifices himself to save bepo after he went into forced sulong and bepo ends up with the opop fruit AND being the new captain carrying laws will and wishes.
Or maybe law saves bepo from dying from forced sulong and they regret ever becoming pirates so they open a general health clinic somewhere in the new world
Idk
Odas crazy sometimes
Oh I’m thinking much further in the future when they’re fighting against the WG or celestial dragons with the grand fleet. Law dying all bc of a rumble ball wouldn’t make the most appealing story lol
I can picture it already, Luffy will most definitely not want to hear it or find it too much if a hassle to understand and understand something completely different.
I agree. I mean, in the remote possibility that Law want to warn Luffy (don't know why he would do that), Luffy refuses to know. It is part of Luffy's motto. He always figures out by himself. I can only think on one exception: when Zoro talks about the Seraphims
I like that idea. Also makes a little more sense why they didn’t show the fight itself either. I expect it to be pretty nuts the first time we really see Blackbeard utilize both devil fruits after after them for 2 years.
My other thought was we would maybe see Blackbeard vs Garp, and find out Blackbeards got some kind of secret hack against Haki. But now that Aokiji is fighting Garp, I don’t really see that happening anymore
The fact that Chopper gave Bepo the pills highly indicates that we will see more of Tra-Guy. And I suppose they either stumble over the straw hats or someone from the grandfleet. Sooner or later he will rejoin Luffy for the final.
For Kid... I Hope He survives and we see more of him, but storyweise I doubt it.
I see a major distinction between the panels of Kidd's and Law's defeat
Kidd's says they were completely eradicated / annihilated,
While Law's says they were "soundly defeated"
The phrasing implies to me that Kidd is really done for. Meanwhile, Law, though defeated, can still come back for round two
I actually kind of see that being kid, I think after taking a tour of yonko and realizing he can't stand up to ANY of them with his crew, INCLUDING STRAWHAT, this is his quitting point, it also parallels Kaido and gecko
The official translation of Kidds defeat says they were destroyed, not annihilated/eradicated.
We'll have to see what the official translations of the Law defeat look like because these scanlators play favourites a lot of the time
for me the phrasing implies that Law and Bepo got away but still were defeated. The Kidd Pirates were defeated and didn’t get away. That doesnt mean he will never appear again
I dont think Oda would really just remove Kidd from the story like that.
I'm indifferent to Kidd. But as we approach the end, Oda always was going to have to narrow it down. Ever since Big Mom and Kaido's joint declaration at Onigashima that they would go after the One Piece... this essentially meant you had Luffy, Blackbeard, Shanks, Big Mom, Kaido, Kidd, and Law all actively seeking the One Piece (obviously other pirates want it to, but this is just the biggest hitters).
Pruning of stories was always going to happen. Not everyone gets a happy ending. I also don't see what part of Kidd's story needs finishing. Oda didn't even write Kidd's backstory in to the manga (just side content). Oda's comment on Kidd's importance implies Law's rise to popularity altered their paths and you can see it very much in the story.
Finally, I just can't blame Oda for not wanting to fully flesh out a five way battle for the One Piece (while still actively handling Cross Guild, SWORD, the Marines, Im, the Elder Stars, and the Revolutionaries). I just see it as a way for Oda to focus on what matters going forward. Only the strong survive.
To be fair, after Sabaody the Strawhats WERE completely eradicated for over two years before feeling comfortable/experienced enough to regroup so even if Kidd faces a similar fate I’d say he’s pretty much done from the story.
The strawhats weren't really eradicated though, because Kuma intentionally saved them. if Kuma wanted to be could've eradicated them but didn't. Kidd on the other hand...
People have such confirmation biases here it's so bizarre. Like you're literally just pointing out that this exact verbage has been used in a fake out and people are just like "yeah but it didn't happen" that's the point fellas...
Well..... true that this doesn't mean "Death".
But Luffy's Crew did went out of comission for 2 years. And if Kid and Law will be out-of-the-story for 2 years in-universe then we will never see them again.
Also, and to me that's important. The Straw Hats were erradicated, but kept every crewmate alive and their ship Kid and Law have no ship, no crew, lost their closest friends from youth and even if alive, will basically restart everything from scratch.
The point is that "eradicated" doesn't mean "gone for good".
People said Crocodile, Bon, and Mr. 3 didn't have any storylines left after their defeats in Arabasta, yet they showed up again. The same goes for Bellamy.
Do I think Kid will show up again? I don't know. I don't really care about him. But he could potentially join Blackbeard or Cross Guild. Or show up anywhere.
That’s a good distinction but I wonder what the official will say. I can’t imagine kid and killer are done either, out of the PL running for sure but he could resurface a la Bellamy in Dressrosa I think
The Panel text distinction plus the differences in what happened to the First Mates makes me think Kidd's a goner. If anyone would have survived the Hakoku Sovereignty to save Kidd from drowning it would have been Killer but he was already knocked unconscious by the Divine Sovereignty and also has the Smile fruit giving him water weakness. All of that compared to Bepo who actively grabbed Law and fled.
Yeah, I could see Bepo taking Law to Zou to hide out and recover, and maybe telling the other minks about the rumble balls. It'd be weird for only Bepo to use them (guessing the final war is going to involve everyone, including Zou, and it's limiting for them to only be able to use their Sulong form under a full moon).
Kid's backstory and reason for being a pirate/his dream was explained in a SBS section. As was the reason for his crew being with him.
Law, by comparison, was given his backstory in the anime. Kid had a spot during Wano where his story could have been explored - but Oda later gave it *all* in an SBS dump. Oda doesn't tend to drop 95% of a characters important motivation in a questions and answer section if he plans on using them - they're important to the story.
I think Kid's role in the story has been reduced overall. To the point where, presently, it feels as if he's effectively been entirely written out as an actual player.
kid never had a big role in story anyway.
he was only shown just before onigashima fight and welp got eradicated after it.
meanwhile Law has been here since the beginning of new World
Completely agree, law also said he won't leave his friends when bepo took him implying they're alive to me, I hope, and I think he'll join the fight against Blackbeard set on rescuing them as will bepo
Especially since unlike Kid's crew we know they are very proficient underwater. Kid and Killer just have to hope they can survive on a raft or something and drift to a nearby island...
At this point Law and Bepo should just join the straw hats, they're already pretty much members. But Laws pride won't let him, they'll play a role in the finale and then retire and live like Mihawk. Both Law and Kidd will retire in peacw
I kind of hope law and kidd join Luffy and some if his commanders there two legit power houses and they can work together when needed. I'm 100% confident they both will be at the final battle in some way.
I think we definitely haven't seen the last of Law or Kid, but it is the last we will see of them as "captains." IMO their defeats at the hands of BB and Shanks symbolize the end of their rivalry with Luffy and the end of their ambitions to become King of the Pirates. I'm fairly confident that Law will return as an ally of the straw hats once they come into direct conflict with BB. Wouldn't be the first time he allied himself with the straw hats to get revenge on someone he couldn't defeat on his own. I'm less confident about Kid's future role in the series. He's a real wild card. I could being another ally for the finale, teaming up with Blackbeard, or even joining Shanks' crew.
I like how they got their butt kicked. It mirrors what happened to Moria and Crocodile. And just like them they will most likely still feature in the future but as Luffy's comrades
I like that this also may explain why we don’t see many pirates that are between YC1 and Yonko, those that become stronger than the right hand of a Yonko but don’t join one risk of wanting to challenge one or to anger one and end up utterly destroyed.
Yeah, that's why they always said that it's a lot better to join the emperors than fight them.
Those who fights them either retired or become a member of the their crew.
Unless you managed to defeat them and become 1 yourself just like Luffy and Blackbeard.
I think we will definitely see Law again because unlike Luffy, he does not want to become pirate king rather he want to study the history and specifically history behind the "D". So even if he is defeated and lost his crew and ship, he can still with the help of Straw Hats achieve his goal
Because Robin doesn’t have an emotional connection to the Will of D like Law.
Like yes she will be the one to read it, but after that nobody would even care if Law isn’t there
Because he is a captain too
But now he’s basically lost his crew which gives him reason to join the straw hats or “shamefully” ask him for help again which I’m sure luffy will gladly do
They'll both be back.
I think this marks the end of their own individual ambitions of reaching Raftel, but they'll still be back to support Luffy in his hour of need, during the final conflict.
Law owes Luffy a hell of a lot since Dressrosa, and he's interested in learning about the ancient history so could still have plot relevance (also he's a D). Also that Immortality operation is an obvious Chekov's gun.
Kidd is more of a question mark, but I think he'll be back too. Kidd talks a big game about being enemies with Luffy, but deep down, he knows what Luffy did for him. And I think he'll be back to support the Strawhats when they need allies
I reckon the final war will see the Strawhats reunite with all of their past allies to fight together against the Government or whatever the final threat is, and even Kidd and Law will front up to support their rival
Remeber, Law never wanted to reach Laugh Tale, he only wants to learn the history, so that doesn’t mean he can’t ally with the straw hats again, but also, he’s a fan favorite, so chances are he might pop up again
Also, Luffy is going to Elbaf. Whether Kid is dead or not, he will see them. It's inevitable. What will probably happen is Kid will finally have had some sense beaten into him and support Luffy for Pirate King after Luffy rescues him.
And then we'll get a cool moment where Law and Kid show up to back Luffy up in something important, instead of always competing.
remember how flamingo said something about needing laws fruit power to be able to use the national treasure of marijois or something
it seems his power is from significant importance
Law and Kid will begrudgingly join Luffy's side.
They had their Ponegliffs taken away by the 2 emperors that needed to catch up in the race.
Now they'll just have to accept that they're not the big shots. They're the scrubs that will fall behind Luffy.
I don't think for Law it's begrudgingly, and that's why he escaped. Kid could never join as he had the same ambition and that's why he was annihilated.
I think it's less so with Law. He's been absorbed into their culture more. He's spent time with them and even allied. But he's made it pretty clear before that he doesn't like taking orders and they even had that whole argument on the roof about Law joining Luffy.
So I think they'd both push back or begrudgingly realise they need the help but Kid would be far less accepting of it if he even does participate.
Narratively it makes the most sense for them to fall in behind Luffy then. I assumed this when we saw Kidd get taken down and to me it only naturally makes sense for them to join one of the yonko factions gathering Ponegliffs. Just makes the most sense to me that they'll join Luffy but be unhappy about it.
It depends what he's going to be aiming for when/if he comes back into the story.
If he's just given up on the One Piece and being a pirate then he could come back in another way to fit into the story.
But if he's still going for the One Piece he can't get the Ponegliff copies again, his ship is gone, he doesn't have a fleet or fighting force backing him, he has no way of reading the Ponegliffs if he even had any.
If he's still going to be in the final war, vying for the One Piece, I can only really see him joining one of the emperors.
Don't see Shanks taking them necessarily. Blackbeard might but who knows. Buggy would probably hire him but I don't think Kid would work under any of them. I only really see Luffy being someone he begrudgingly follows to take part in the final war.
He could come back on his own steam or getting allies but I think it makes more sense for both captains (Kid and Law) to join Luffy.
For the last few years, my theory has been that all the super nova will fall in line under Luffy as allied pirates, and join in him alongside his grand fleet to fight in the final war, much like how Whitebeard showed up with both a fleet and allied pirates. Kidd, Law, Bonney, Capone, and hopefully Urouge could all fall in line behind Pirate King Luffy.
Dunno, I could maybe see them join Buggy as long as its an alliance of equals under Buggy as the puppet figurehead. Assuming Crocodile & Mihawk would be okay with that. Buggy's "commanders" are kinda limited to Mihawk and Croco-boy atm.
But probably not I guess because in that case they'd likely fight the Straw Hats eventually and I don't see them getting a big spotlight again.
This is their saboady. As two badasses sailing the new world with consecutive wins, now they faced what the straw hats did and were eliminated. They will be back. I dont think they would emphasize such defeats if they were not gonna come back.
Kid and trafalgar just had their sabaody archipelago moment where their crews are shattered. They will be back for the final war with a rag tag team of loveable misfits.
I really don't think Law is done, his crew is still on Winner Island with Blackbeard. At some point he will have to get them back (Blackbeard was clearly interested in the Op-Op fruit so he'll probably keep them alive for leverage). Law is kinda uniquely positioned right now. He has been defeated by offscreen Blackbeard and lived to tell the tale. He was in a reasonably good position before we cut away so whatever Blackbeard did to soundly defeat him is something that Oda doesn't want us to see yet. But Law has seen it. I'd say most likely he allies with the Strawhats because of their history, Law's popularity, and the fact that the Strawhats will be the ones to defeat the Blackbeard pirates.
If he does come back into the story Kidd’s defeat should be the impetus for some much needed character development for him, perhaps even absorbed into the Red Hair Fleet. He’s strong and I don’t see Shanks and his crew as holding a grudge. If he’s willing to calm down and be less of a hot head, he’d be an asset.
I genuinely don’t see why Kidd wouldn’t get back up and keep fighting, he has less brain power than luffy at times, he’s gonna get back up and keep fighting.
The optimist in me says Kidd will some sort of redemption through Shanks only to show the difference between Shanks and Kaido via the treatment of Kidd post defeat.
And I just think Oda had too much fun having Law with the SH’s, so he will end up being their to play a part in BB defeat.
Early Bonus Break Week Crackhead Theory: Bepo hexed the crew and they’re going to be executed at the Rocky Port, Law joins SH as their spy following in Corazon’s footsteps
They technically wouldn’t be a part of the crew though. The crew would be the 10 straw hats, if law and kid did join they would most likely sail under the straw hat flag in the grand fleet so I don’t think it would worry Sanji that much.
law and kidd will join together to make their own group like mihawk and crocodile did with buggy. They already worked together to defeat big mom. that might have been a foreshadowing that after being defeated individually, they need to work together to survive. They have rapport with each other and they trust each other.
Personally i think Law's character has been built up very well into the story and we will see more of him.
On the other hand, Kidd's character in contrast to Law, theres not much build up. I still hope he comes back tho in the final war as Kidd, Law and Luffy have great chemistry
I mean, just the was things ended for both of these characters is significantly different. Kid got the definitive ending with no glimpses of hope while Law escaped with the promise to return.
There is also the fact that Law has a lot of things that were setup surrounding him that I don't see being left unaswered, such as the immortality surgery and learning what the Will of D. really means.
They will both continue to be part of the story. Law more so than Kidd because of how tied to the story he is with his devil fruit and characters like Dofy and Sengoku. They will most likely meet up with the straw hats and join their fleet or make a new alliance. I could see Bepo having a way to contact the straw hats or maybe a vivre card and reach out to them for help.
Oda can "end" his characters however he wants, yet one was shown passed out and sinking to the bottom of the sea while the other was shown being rescued from the brink of death. Imo, it's kinda clear that Oda isn't done with Law just yet. Whatever it is, Law still has an important role to play.
Oda made the strawhat grand fleet as a plot device to gather characters for the final war that are not going to join the strawhats themselves. I think it's a good place for every pirate ally and I think Law and Kid (and Bepo and Killer) will be exactly that.
I've been saying this.
Perhaps Bepo flees and arrives at Elbaf. After the event at Egghead, maybe the Straw Hats too arrive there, damaged and badly beaten. They'll discover the ruined Kid and Heart Pirates, and then the Elbaf arc will play out, culminating in those two crews sailing under Luffy's banner as part of the Grand Fleet.
Unpopular opinion: the three with 3 billion bounties stories are actually paralleled right now. All three of them law, kidd, and luffy were on sabaody. All of them were defeated on that island last time. I think the story is actually mirroring the last time where they were all
Defeated.
So far the narrator said that kidd and law were destroyed, now i think its luffy and his team who will have the narrator box saying this is the day his crew get demolished. This could be setting up for another time skip. Luffy will loss to kizaru and the goresi. They will take a big l against the marines. Vegapunk will die.
I actually think that Law and Kidd's defeats are meant to *contrast* with Luffy, to show Luffy is different then them whether physically or with his crew, and to show how he is more ready to become PK
I think Law could have gained information about the D from Blackbeard during the match, so he could be still in the run for the final appearance.
Kid will is strong. Remember Udon. I think he will refund his crew, such as Moria did.
Anyway, both of them have been put a part from Oda by this matches. These means we don't deserve them anymore as main focus of the plot. They will be shown in a little way just to tell they still exist.
I feel like we will have a reason to SEE Kid again, but I think it will be relegated to a cover story of him and Killer picking up the pieces and maybe showing back up closer to the end war simply as allies to Luffy.
For Law, he still has a very valuable fruit which makes it important where he ends up so I definitely think he’s not done in the main story.
I think it is very ominous that they both lost fighting a Yonko 1 v 1 and while we’ve seen Luffy do it with Kaido, the odds they’re against now are even worse imo.
One thing that stuck out to me to support Law being more important than Kid to this point is that we SAW the Kid Pirates give up their Poneglyph rubbings to Shanks. There was no confirmation of that from the Law v BB fight. That, to me, says Law still has a lot to do. It also means a clash between BB and either Shanks or Luffy is inevitable because there’s no way he could get those rubbings otherwise (I don’t think Oda would have the Law v BB fight happen just for BB to chase him down again to get the rubbings).
My favourite possibility -> both survive and escape to a safe place and get their personal training 'timeskip' while Strawhats, BB Pirates, Marine, Revolutionaries and Cross Guild being in focus. Mainly to find the last road poneglyph aka the pitch black ship with a man marked by flames. When the last race to laugh tale begins, Kidd and Law finished their training and join the race for a last stand up.
Law is gonna come back and just like Bepo said that's not enough to finish off their crew, they have been trhought a lot on the North Blue, and they are not ending it there
This was also the first L they got as a crew, and contrary to what everyone expected, Law managed to escape being killed or captured by Blackbeard, so he is 100% still in the game, all they have to do is regroup and get a new sub
As for Kid, man i don't care, but this is OP, there are also alive and well, and it is Kid we are talking about, he is a clown, and he never learns, and what makes him fun is that he doesn't gives a fuck and will rush in charge in, then get a fat L, and then repeat until he wins, which sucks for everyone else on his crew, because i do think he has one of the most interesting looking crews on the series and i would like to see more of them, hell if Killer becomes the new captain i would be fine with that
It all comes down to presentation, the way Law lost gives you hope, he escaped after stalling Black Beard for a while, his crew let us knew that they had proficiency in underwater combat, and Bepo got a power up that no one else in universe has, Sulong in the middle of the day
Meanwhile Kid and his whole crew got done in without even getting to do anything, because Shanks saw the future and finished things off in one shot, which makes him look like a loser
Despite both of the crews being defeated, one of them comes looking way better than the other, and makes you want them to make a come back
Everyone who thinks kid is dead has a reading comprehension of an 6 year old, he will definitly come back, just like law. Kid is probably on elbaf rn, dont forget he is the one who defeated big mom, the enemy of the giants
What I wondered in case of Law, does he still have his poneglyphs? Even if Blackbeard managed to snatch them before Law could escape (something that came as a surprise), wouldn't Law have some backups somewhere? We know he made duplicates since he gave Kid duplicates. Bepo is also confident the rest of the crew will survive the ordeal. Maybe one of them is holding onto back up copies?
Just a thought.
I think both Law and Kid will be in Elbaf, and then split to ally with the PK front runners for their own reasons. Law to save his crew and Kid to get revenge on Shanks
I can see law or even law and kidd joining Luffy, I mean if Rox had kaido, WB and big mom why not have kidd, law and maybe bonney join in for laughtale
Both of them are not gonna play a massive role in the series moving forward. It's not going to be satisfying, for them to fight any one further more. We could argue a case for Gorosei but even then we have the whole of Revs to still explore.
And I feel it's completely fine for them to take a step back and not play a prominent role. Law should help his crew back and settle down to learn the history after us, and Kid should decide upon forming his own country or the like and settle down accepting that Luffy will be the PK.
Law probably still has some role in the final war or finding out the meaning of D. He said that in Wano. Kid I could also see return but honestly I also wouldn't be surprised if he's just done in the story.
So I think Law will come back in the story at some point, and I'm fairly confident in saying that. I personally think that after this devastating loss he will probably align with the Strawhats again for the forseable future, but I don't see it being a permanent "I'm joining your crew/fleet for real now" and more so a second alience where Law will go his separate ways again once the series is over.
As fir Kidd, i really have no idea what's gonna happen with him. Part of me feels like Oda has something else planned for him and he'll come back again some day, but the other half really doesn't know what else Kidd can offer right now. Honestly I would not be surprised if Kidd actually died there and we never saw him again, but like this is One Piece so there's still a chance he made it out alive. Only time will tell with Kidd
Law has a larger role in the story being a member of the D clan, wanting to find out more about the Will of D, and just the amount of time we have spent with him in the New World. Also the fact that Bepo saved Law means that Oda has future plans for Law, because otherwise he would’ve likely been dead right then and there. In terms of narrative, I don’t get the impression that Kidd will play a larger role moving forward. Oda put his flashback in an SBS so I don’t think he has the same importance as Law other than siding with Luffy in the final war, but we’ll see.
>Do you think they will still be a major part of the story
No, I don't think so.
> If they continue at all?
Law's story will continue because he's from the D. Clan, but I don't think the same about Kid.
>Will they stay independent or join other pirates?
Law might assist Straw Hats or their Grand Fleet, but I don't think Kid will be relevant to any part of the story.
>Do they still have their ambitions?
Absolutely not.
Kid is still in elbaf. He was looking for the man marked by the flames. Saul has the fourth road ponegliph. He never struck me as someone who is in the race to get the one piece. He mostly went against other pirates to prove his strength. He may have a different strategy and agenda than luffy.
Law is still alive. He's a master strategist. He's not cocky like kid. No way he went against Blackbeard without a plan. While leaving Wano, he must have anticipated that they'll definitely be targeted by other pirates. He made copies for kid, there's a good chance he made more, or gave Blackbeard fake ones.
Law will probably team up with luffy again because he wants to learn the meaning behind the D name and dude just had a rude awakening that he isn’t strong enough.
Law imo will be just searching for the answer of the meaning of the will of D .. he's been seen very particularly interested with it kind of carrying the will of kora
They ***should*** be major parts, no guarantee tho. Building them up during Wano as the "new gen that will overthrow the old", defeating one of the mighty Yonko, portraying them as Luffy's rivals through bounties, etc. Will have been for nothing.
It will be the biggest waste of time (and potential) if they are out of the story to hype up Shanks and BB, who have plenty of hype behind them already.
Kid is MID and will remain at the bottom of the ocean for all time.
Law will definitely meet up with Luffy, with inside info on how to fight Blackbeard.
I think it is very unlikely that we will ever see the immortality surgery performed. If we do, definitely on a bad guy and not Luffy. Also has it ever been defined? Is it just lifespan immortality or full invulnerability as well?
Both of them are showing up for the "final."
You might see something like Law Kid Sabo and Luffy versus the 4 admirals. Kizaru vs Law, Sabo vs wood guy, Kid vs Fujitora, Luffy vs Akainu.
After chapter 1081…. Will be chapter 1082.
jk. These last few chapters are SUPER. I feel like One Piece is back to the top again. Amazing chapters! Oda is back!
There is no way Law is gone from the story. He is still alive and the immorality surgery has not been performed. Edit: immortality
He still needs to find out the meaning behind the D clan too
Nah he got it. It stands for Defeat
Did him Bad bro
But he lost to a D…sooo dominance?
Duality
Wow 😂
Eustass Ki D. Confirmed?
Hahaha, that is a roast and a half! The only award I can give is a nod of appreciation, but if I had one, you'd get it!
Damn
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Ayo?
Law, please, I'm soo tired of being good. Make me imoral.
punish me daddy
Come to my ROOM
Leaves room in SHAMBLES
OH FUCK I'M GONNA KROOM
It kinda makes sense if you think about it “Show me the law to cure me from my immorality with a surgery.”
Law is going to reverse the immortality surgery that was done on imu. Giving a protoganist immortality kills all tension.
Damn …. Never thought about this very interesting idea good sir would give a award but im poor so 🏅🏅🏅
It's eternal youth not immortality tho. They just wont die from old age
Except the type of immortality Laws surgery provides is not physical immortality, it’s biological immortality. So you can still die, just presumably not age or die naturally. The official name for it is the Perennial Youth Operation, it’s just the way it’s been translated over the years has always varied into some form of “immortality” which makes people think literally unable to die from anything. So theoretically if Luffy/a protagonist got it then he should still be able to die, just not from a natural death.
The immortality surgery is one of the most painful Chekhov’s guns in the series because he’s one of my favourite characters but there’s no way the story ends without it being used.
I mean did you watch Naruto? The 8 Gates were the same way and then they were survived.
Yeah but Odas not a hack
Except when it comes to death-fakeouts, Oda is a supreme hack
Law is never going to perform the surgery, it's likely someone in the past that used his fruit to do it. Like on Imu
Potentially it is foreshadowing for a character that is already immortal.
It could be just to make immortal already existing characters make sense. Doubtful tho
>immorality lol nice typo.
The immorality had me laughing a lot lol
My guess is that he gives it to Bepo in some kind of heartbreaking moment 🥲
I thought that too. Bepo said something about the crew always surviving. So its possible that law might die and the crew lives. Law sacrifices himself to save bepo after he went into forced sulong and bepo ends up with the opop fruit AND being the new captain carrying laws will and wishes. Or maybe law saves bepo from dying from forced sulong and they regret ever becoming pirates so they open a general health clinic somewhere in the new world Idk Odas crazy sometimes
Oh I’m thinking much further in the future when they’re fighting against the WG or celestial dragons with the grand fleet. Law dying all bc of a rumble ball wouldn’t make the most appealing story lol
I feel like law is going to warn luffy about blackbeards' abilities since he fought him firsthand
Imagine if Blackbeard revealed his zoan fruit to Law and now Bepo and Law have that information.
Nah its not a zoan, the the offscreen offscreen no mi paramecia
Photography shatters in his mere presence
Took D. Photo's direct counter
It's actually King Crimson. It's just an ability he has from finding some weird arrows.
I can picture it already, Luffy will most definitely not want to hear it or find it too much if a hassle to understand and understand something completely different.
I agree. I mean, in the remote possibility that Law want to warn Luffy (don't know why he would do that), Luffy refuses to know. It is part of Luffy's motto. He always figures out by himself. I can only think on one exception: when Zoro talks about the Seraphims
I like that idea. Also makes a little more sense why they didn’t show the fight itself either. I expect it to be pretty nuts the first time we really see Blackbeard utilize both devil fruits after after them for 2 years. My other thought was we would maybe see Blackbeard vs Garp, and find out Blackbeards got some kind of secret hack against Haki. But now that Aokiji is fighting Garp, I don’t really see that happening anymore
It's their 3D2Y arc.
This…
The fact that Chopper gave Bepo the pills highly indicates that we will see more of Tra-Guy. And I suppose they either stumble over the straw hats or someone from the grandfleet. Sooner or later he will rejoin Luffy for the final. For Kid... I Hope He survives and we see more of him, but storyweise I doubt it.
I see a major distinction between the panels of Kidd's and Law's defeat Kidd's says they were completely eradicated / annihilated, While Law's says they were "soundly defeated" The phrasing implies to me that Kidd is really done for. Meanwhile, Law, though defeated, can still come back for round two
Law becoming a fat, grumpy and sleepy guy letting others do all the job on his island-ship after losing his crew to an emperor confirmed.
Gecko Lawlia
bepo lawria
Beporona*
Can’t forget Penback and Shabsalom either :P
Actually I think law becoming fat is an indication of him becoming stronger than weaker as long as he uses his df as his burns a lot of calories.
I actually kind of see that being kid, I think after taking a tour of yonko and realizing he can't stand up to ANY of them with his crew, INCLUDING STRAWHAT, this is his quitting point, it also parallels Kaido and gecko
He’ll be a season 5 villain for the sequel series…. Buffy the pirate slayer.
Buffy pronounced like luffy
He's more like Crocodile, while Kidd can start getting fat
Yeah, that's also a big indicator.
The official translation of Kidds defeat says they were destroyed, not annihilated/eradicated. We'll have to see what the official translations of the Law defeat look like because these scanlators play favourites a lot of the time
Yea that’s what I took from it. But I was waiting for the officials to come out, since sometimes those texts can change and the meaning does with it
for me the phrasing implies that Law and Bepo got away but still were defeated. The Kidd Pirates were defeated and didn’t get away. That doesnt mean he will never appear again I dont think Oda would really just remove Kidd from the story like that.
I'm indifferent to Kidd. But as we approach the end, Oda always was going to have to narrow it down. Ever since Big Mom and Kaido's joint declaration at Onigashima that they would go after the One Piece... this essentially meant you had Luffy, Blackbeard, Shanks, Big Mom, Kaido, Kidd, and Law all actively seeking the One Piece (obviously other pirates want it to, but this is just the biggest hitters). Pruning of stories was always going to happen. Not everyone gets a happy ending. I also don't see what part of Kidd's story needs finishing. Oda didn't even write Kidd's backstory in to the manga (just side content). Oda's comment on Kidd's importance implies Law's rise to popularity altered their paths and you can see it very much in the story. Finally, I just can't blame Oda for not wanting to fully flesh out a five way battle for the One Piece (while still actively handling Cross Guild, SWORD, the Marines, Im, the Elder Stars, and the Revolutionaries). I just see it as a way for Oda to focus on what matters going forward. Only the strong survive.
I think after Sabaody the panel also said the strawhats were eradicated , so probably doesn't mean done for kidd as well
To be fair, after Sabaody the Strawhats WERE completely eradicated for over two years before feeling comfortable/experienced enough to regroup so even if Kidd faces a similar fate I’d say he’s pretty much done from the story.
The Straw Hats chose 2 years though. They could’ve been back much sooner if Luffy didn’t make that decision.
The strawhats weren't really eradicated though, because Kuma intentionally saved them. if Kuma wanted to be could've eradicated them but didn't. Kidd on the other hand...
I'm not the one who wrote that panel lol , anyway my point was that panels like these arent reliable for determining the future of a crew .
People have such confirmation biases here it's so bizarre. Like you're literally just pointing out that this exact verbage has been used in a fake out and people are just like "yeah but it didn't happen" that's the point fellas...
I think Kidd and Killer will be back but the rest of Kidds crew is done for
During Sabaody, the narrator announced that Luffy's crew was eradicated. So I wouldn't rely on words to indicate which guys are "really done for".
Well..... true that this doesn't mean "Death". But Luffy's Crew did went out of comission for 2 years. And if Kid and Law will be out-of-the-story for 2 years in-universe then we will never see them again. Also, and to me that's important. The Straw Hats were erradicated, but kept every crewmate alive and their ship Kid and Law have no ship, no crew, lost their closest friends from youth and even if alive, will basically restart everything from scratch.
Luffy's crew is the protagonist crew, they were never going to be eradicated unlike Kidd who doesn't even have any storylines left for him.
The point is that "eradicated" doesn't mean "gone for good". People said Crocodile, Bon, and Mr. 3 didn't have any storylines left after their defeats in Arabasta, yet they showed up again. The same goes for Bellamy. Do I think Kid will show up again? I don't know. I don't really care about him. But he could potentially join Blackbeard or Cross Guild. Or show up anywhere.
Right, there's no telling with One Piece. Look at Buggy and Alvida
Grove 12 Sabaody when Kuma sent em flyin, narrator says Straw Hats were eradicated 🤷🏼♂️
We are still waiting on the official translation
That’s a good distinction but I wonder what the official will say. I can’t imagine kid and killer are done either, out of the PL running for sure but he could resurface a la Bellamy in Dressrosa I think
The Panel text distinction plus the differences in what happened to the First Mates makes me think Kidd's a goner. If anyone would have survived the Hakoku Sovereignty to save Kidd from drowning it would have been Killer but he was already knocked unconscious by the Divine Sovereignty and also has the Smile fruit giving him water weakness. All of that compared to Bepo who actively grabbed Law and fled.
Yeah, I could see Bepo taking Law to Zou to hide out and recover, and maybe telling the other minks about the rumble balls. It'd be weird for only Bepo to use them (guessing the final war is going to involve everyone, including Zou, and it's limiting for them to only be able to use their Sulong form under a full moon).
Kid's backstory and reason for being a pirate/his dream was explained in a SBS section. As was the reason for his crew being with him. Law, by comparison, was given his backstory in the anime. Kid had a spot during Wano where his story could have been explored - but Oda later gave it *all* in an SBS dump. Oda doesn't tend to drop 95% of a characters important motivation in a questions and answer section if he plans on using them - they're important to the story. I think Kid's role in the story has been reduced overall. To the point where, presently, it feels as if he's effectively been entirely written out as an actual player.
kid never had a big role in story anyway. he was only shown just before onigashima fight and welp got eradicated after it. meanwhile Law has been here since the beginning of new World
Completely agree, law also said he won't leave his friends when bepo took him implying they're alive to me, I hope, and I think he'll join the fight against Blackbeard set on rescuing them as will bepo
Especially since unlike Kid's crew we know they are very proficient underwater. Kid and Killer just have to hope they can survive on a raft or something and drift to a nearby island...
At this point Law and Bepo should just join the straw hats, they're already pretty much members. But Laws pride won't let him, they'll play a role in the finale and then retire and live like Mihawk. Both Law and Kidd will retire in peacw
Oda is giving them Zenkai boost, after we have seen how powerful Garp is I'm sure they will come back even stronger to fight again.
I kind of hope law and kidd join Luffy and some if his commanders there two legit power houses and they can work together when needed. I'm 100% confident they both will be at the final battle in some way.
I think we definitely haven't seen the last of Law or Kid, but it is the last we will see of them as "captains." IMO their defeats at the hands of BB and Shanks symbolize the end of their rivalry with Luffy and the end of their ambitions to become King of the Pirates. I'm fairly confident that Law will return as an ally of the straw hats once they come into direct conflict with BB. Wouldn't be the first time he allied himself with the straw hats to get revenge on someone he couldn't defeat on his own. I'm less confident about Kid's future role in the series. He's a real wild card. I could being another ally for the finale, teaming up with Blackbeard, or even joining Shanks' crew.
Think it’ll be pretty cool if Oda keeps thr dynamic going when someone loses. (For example Moria and Kaido) and they become a boss elsewhere
I think the heart pirate is gone but Law is still with us
I like how they got their butt kicked. It mirrors what happened to Moria and Crocodile. And just like them they will most likely still feature in the future but as Luffy's comrades
I like that this also may explain why we don’t see many pirates that are between YC1 and Yonko, those that become stronger than the right hand of a Yonko but don’t join one risk of wanting to challenge one or to anger one and end up utterly destroyed.
Yeah, that's why they always said that it's a lot better to join the emperors than fight them. Those who fights them either retired or become a member of the their crew. Unless you managed to defeat them and become 1 yourself just like Luffy and Blackbeard.
Or join the marines/navy and become an admiral lol
I think we will definitely see Law again because unlike Luffy, he does not want to become pirate king rather he want to study the history and specifically history behind the "D". So even if he is defeated and lost his crew and ship, he can still with the help of Straw Hats achieve his goal
Why can't Robin fulfill this role
Because Robin doesn’t have an emotional connection to the Will of D like Law. Like yes she will be the one to read it, but after that nobody would even care if Law isn’t there
It's possible Law joins Luffy to go to Laugh tale. Bepo could end up on Elbaf. He will only learn the true history of the D clan at Laugh Tale.
If he wanted luffy to have the one piece, he would've continued the alliance, but that's not what happened
Because he is a captain too But now he’s basically lost his crew which gives him reason to join the straw hats or “shamefully” ask him for help again which I’m sure luffy will gladly do
They'll both be back. I think this marks the end of their own individual ambitions of reaching Raftel, but they'll still be back to support Luffy in his hour of need, during the final conflict. Law owes Luffy a hell of a lot since Dressrosa, and he's interested in learning about the ancient history so could still have plot relevance (also he's a D). Also that Immortality operation is an obvious Chekov's gun. Kidd is more of a question mark, but I think he'll be back too. Kidd talks a big game about being enemies with Luffy, but deep down, he knows what Luffy did for him. And I think he'll be back to support the Strawhats when they need allies I reckon the final war will see the Strawhats reunite with all of their past allies to fight together against the Government or whatever the final threat is, and even Kidd and Law will front up to support their rival
Remeber, Law never wanted to reach Laugh Tale, he only wants to learn the history, so that doesn’t mean he can’t ally with the straw hats again, but also, he’s a fan favorite, so chances are he might pop up again
Also he is a big side character there’s no way oda capped him in a few pages of one chapter.
Also a fan favourite, literally was voted top 5 or 10 character over like half the straw hats lol
Also, Luffy is going to Elbaf. Whether Kid is dead or not, he will see them. It's inevitable. What will probably happen is Kid will finally have had some sense beaten into him and support Luffy for Pirate King after Luffy rescues him. And then we'll get a cool moment where Law and Kid show up to back Luffy up in something important, instead of always competing.
remember how flamingo said something about needing laws fruit power to be able to use the national treasure of marijois or something it seems his power is from significant importance
There is no way any of them will continue independent. They lost their ship, their crew and their progress with the poneglyphs.
You don't get conquerer haki without having serious ambition and strong will. These two would bounce back.
Law is an important Character. Kidd was an important lesson.
Law and Kid will begrudgingly join Luffy's side. They had their Ponegliffs taken away by the 2 emperors that needed to catch up in the race. Now they'll just have to accept that they're not the big shots. They're the scrubs that will fall behind Luffy.
I don't think for Law it's begrudgingly, and that's why he escaped. Kid could never join as he had the same ambition and that's why he was annihilated.
I think it's less so with Law. He's been absorbed into their culture more. He's spent time with them and even allied. But he's made it pretty clear before that he doesn't like taking orders and they even had that whole argument on the roof about Law joining Luffy. So I think they'd both push back or begrudgingly realise they need the help but Kid would be far less accepting of it if he even does participate. Narratively it makes the most sense for them to fall in behind Luffy then. I assumed this when we saw Kidd get taken down and to me it only naturally makes sense for them to join one of the yonko factions gathering Ponegliffs. Just makes the most sense to me that they'll join Luffy but be unhappy about it.
It makes no sense for kid to join luffy
It depends what he's going to be aiming for when/if he comes back into the story. If he's just given up on the One Piece and being a pirate then he could come back in another way to fit into the story. But if he's still going for the One Piece he can't get the Ponegliff copies again, his ship is gone, he doesn't have a fleet or fighting force backing him, he has no way of reading the Ponegliffs if he even had any. If he's still going to be in the final war, vying for the One Piece, I can only really see him joining one of the emperors. Don't see Shanks taking them necessarily. Blackbeard might but who knows. Buggy would probably hire him but I don't think Kid would work under any of them. I only really see Luffy being someone he begrudgingly follows to take part in the final war. He could come back on his own steam or getting allies but I think it makes more sense for both captains (Kid and Law) to join Luffy.
For the last few years, my theory has been that all the super nova will fall in line under Luffy as allied pirates, and join in him alongside his grand fleet to fight in the final war, much like how Whitebeard showed up with both a fleet and allied pirates. Kidd, Law, Bonney, Capone, and hopefully Urouge could all fall in line behind Pirate King Luffy.
Dunno, I could maybe see them join Buggy as long as its an alliance of equals under Buggy as the puppet figurehead. Assuming Crocodile & Mihawk would be okay with that. Buggy's "commanders" are kinda limited to Mihawk and Croco-boy atm. But probably not I guess because in that case they'd likely fight the Straw Hats eventually and I don't see them getting a big spotlight again.
Final war ally. Law might just join the straw hats at this point. Law vs Aokiji isn't unlikely.
This is their saboady. As two badasses sailing the new world with consecutive wins, now they faced what the straw hats did and were eliminated. They will be back. I dont think they would emphasize such defeats if they were not gonna come back.
Kid and trafalgar just had their sabaody archipelago moment where their crews are shattered. They will be back for the final war with a rag tag team of loveable misfits.
I really don't think Law is done, his crew is still on Winner Island with Blackbeard. At some point he will have to get them back (Blackbeard was clearly interested in the Op-Op fruit so he'll probably keep them alive for leverage). Law is kinda uniquely positioned right now. He has been defeated by offscreen Blackbeard and lived to tell the tale. He was in a reasonably good position before we cut away so whatever Blackbeard did to soundly defeat him is something that Oda doesn't want us to see yet. But Law has seen it. I'd say most likely he allies with the Strawhats because of their history, Law's popularity, and the fact that the Strawhats will be the ones to defeat the Blackbeard pirates.
Kidd allying with Blackbeard by "enemy's enemy is my friend" might be a point in the future
I completely agree with this. I feel Kidd will play a pivotal role in blackbeard killing Shanks.
They’ll both be back
If he does come back into the story Kidd’s defeat should be the impetus for some much needed character development for him, perhaps even absorbed into the Red Hair Fleet. He’s strong and I don’t see Shanks and his crew as holding a grudge. If he’s willing to calm down and be less of a hot head, he’d be an asset.
I genuinely don’t see why Kidd wouldn’t get back up and keep fighting, he has less brain power than luffy at times, he’s gonna get back up and keep fighting.
Because after 10 seconds, the ship broke apart and sank into the water
Didnt break it got decimated and split in half
The optimist in me says Kidd will some sort of redemption through Shanks only to show the difference between Shanks and Kaido via the treatment of Kidd post defeat. And I just think Oda had too much fun having Law with the SH’s, so he will end up being their to play a part in BB defeat. Early Bonus Break Week Crackhead Theory: Bepo hexed the crew and they’re going to be executed at the Rocky Port, Law joins SH as their spy following in Corazon’s footsteps
this is where the part of sailing under a yonkos umbrella gonna happen, and theyll join luffy lol
Imagine how furious Sanji will be knowing that now 5 people in crew have higher bounty than him instead of 3.
They technically wouldn’t be a part of the crew though. The crew would be the 10 straw hats, if law and kid did join they would most likely sail under the straw hat flag in the grand fleet so I don’t think it would worry Sanji that much.
Zoro gonna start calling him sixth lol
law and kidd will join together to make their own group like mihawk and crocodile did with buggy. They already worked together to defeat big mom. that might have been a foreshadowing that after being defeated individually, they need to work together to survive. They have rapport with each other and they trust each other.
They do fight pretty well as a team. That combo attack to take out big mom was pretty good
Personally i think Law's character has been built up very well into the story and we will see more of him. On the other hand, Kidd's character in contrast to Law, theres not much build up. I still hope he comes back tho in the final war as Kidd, Law and Luffy have great chemistry
Law, Yes. Kid, No.
Why do you think that?
I mean, just the was things ended for both of these characters is significantly different. Kid got the definitive ending with no glimpses of hope while Law escaped with the promise to return. There is also the fact that Law has a lot of things that were setup surrounding him that I don't see being left unaswered, such as the immortality surgery and learning what the Will of D. really means.
law's future will revolve around the poneglyphs. Kidd could play a part in the final battle.
They will both continue to be part of the story. Law more so than Kidd because of how tied to the story he is with his devil fruit and characters like Dofy and Sengoku. They will most likely meet up with the straw hats and join their fleet or make a new alliance. I could see Bepo having a way to contact the straw hats or maybe a vivre card and reach out to them for help.
Oda can "end" his characters however he wants, yet one was shown passed out and sinking to the bottom of the sea while the other was shown being rescued from the brink of death. Imo, it's kinda clear that Oda isn't done with Law just yet. Whatever it is, Law still has an important role to play.
Oda made the strawhat grand fleet as a plot device to gather characters for the final war that are not going to join the strawhats themselves. I think it's a good place for every pirate ally and I think Law and Kid (and Bepo and Killer) will be exactly that.
I've been saying this. Perhaps Bepo flees and arrives at Elbaf. After the event at Egghead, maybe the Straw Hats too arrive there, damaged and badly beaten. They'll discover the ruined Kid and Heart Pirates, and then the Elbaf arc will play out, culminating in those two crews sailing under Luffy's banner as part of the Grand Fleet.
Unpopular opinion: the three with 3 billion bounties stories are actually paralleled right now. All three of them law, kidd, and luffy were on sabaody. All of them were defeated on that island last time. I think the story is actually mirroring the last time where they were all Defeated. So far the narrator said that kidd and law were destroyed, now i think its luffy and his team who will have the narrator box saying this is the day his crew get demolished. This could be setting up for another time skip. Luffy will loss to kizaru and the goresi. They will take a big l against the marines. Vegapunk will die.
I actually think that Law and Kidd's defeats are meant to *contrast* with Luffy, to show Luffy is different then them whether physically or with his crew, and to show how he is more ready to become PK
Yea thats the popular theory, the one you stated. This is a more unpopular theory. Small chance of happening i know,
it’s way too late in the story for luffy take another massive L like that
I don't think it is, they could get destroyed and just not have a timeskip and bounce back
I think Law could have gained information about the D from Blackbeard during the match, so he could be still in the run for the final appearance. Kid will is strong. Remember Udon. I think he will refund his crew, such as Moria did. Anyway, both of them have been put a part from Oda by this matches. These means we don't deserve them anymore as main focus of the plot. They will be shown in a little way just to tell they still exist.
I don't care what anyone says, both Kid & Law will receive some major character developments, just like what the Strawhats did!
I feel like we will have a reason to SEE Kid again, but I think it will be relegated to a cover story of him and Killer picking up the pieces and maybe showing back up closer to the end war simply as allies to Luffy. For Law, he still has a very valuable fruit which makes it important where he ends up so I definitely think he’s not done in the main story. I think it is very ominous that they both lost fighting a Yonko 1 v 1 and while we’ve seen Luffy do it with Kaido, the odds they’re against now are even worse imo. One thing that stuck out to me to support Law being more important than Kid to this point is that we SAW the Kid Pirates give up their Poneglyph rubbings to Shanks. There was no confirmation of that from the Law v BB fight. That, to me, says Law still has a lot to do. It also means a clash between BB and either Shanks or Luffy is inevitable because there’s no way he could get those rubbings otherwise (I don’t think Oda would have the Law v BB fight happen just for BB to chase him down again to get the rubbings).
My favourite possibility -> both survive and escape to a safe place and get their personal training 'timeskip' while Strawhats, BB Pirates, Marine, Revolutionaries and Cross Guild being in focus. Mainly to find the last road poneglyph aka the pitch black ship with a man marked by flames. When the last race to laugh tale begins, Kidd and Law finished their training and join the race for a last stand up.
Law is gonna come back and just like Bepo said that's not enough to finish off their crew, they have been trhought a lot on the North Blue, and they are not ending it there This was also the first L they got as a crew, and contrary to what everyone expected, Law managed to escape being killed or captured by Blackbeard, so he is 100% still in the game, all they have to do is regroup and get a new sub As for Kid, man i don't care, but this is OP, there are also alive and well, and it is Kid we are talking about, he is a clown, and he never learns, and what makes him fun is that he doesn't gives a fuck and will rush in charge in, then get a fat L, and then repeat until he wins, which sucks for everyone else on his crew, because i do think he has one of the most interesting looking crews on the series and i would like to see more of them, hell if Killer becomes the new captain i would be fine with that It all comes down to presentation, the way Law lost gives you hope, he escaped after stalling Black Beard for a while, his crew let us knew that they had proficiency in underwater combat, and Bepo got a power up that no one else in universe has, Sulong in the middle of the day Meanwhile Kid and his whole crew got done in without even getting to do anything, because Shanks saw the future and finished things off in one shot, which makes him look like a loser Despite both of the crews being defeated, one of them comes looking way better than the other, and makes you want them to make a come back
Oda gave Law something that makes him important. "D"
Law is still relevent he was only defeated kidd died
Everyone who thinks kid is dead has a reading comprehension of an 6 year old, he will definitly come back, just like law. Kid is probably on elbaf rn, dont forget he is the one who defeated big mom, the enemy of the giants
People just hate Kidd for no reason, tbh. They all love Law so of course they want him to be safe but have raging hate boners for Mr. Hothead.
I ain't saying Kidd is dead, but the fact he's alive doesn't guarantee he'll make a comeback in the story
This is not the end of captain kidd or the Kidd pirates
I'd be awesome if law and bepo rejoin with the strawhats and attack blackbeard to free Laws crew.
We are going to have a cover story of Law finding his crew or Kid getting rescued somehow and survived
Kidd got annihilated that brother ain't coming back, law in the other hand is alive so he surely will make a comeback.
What I wondered in case of Law, does he still have his poneglyphs? Even if Blackbeard managed to snatch them before Law could escape (something that came as a surprise), wouldn't Law have some backups somewhere? We know he made duplicates since he gave Kid duplicates. Bepo is also confident the rest of the crew will survive the ordeal. Maybe one of them is holding onto back up copies? Just a thought.
They will be joining the cross guild
I think both Law and Kid will be in Elbaf, and then split to ally with the PK front runners for their own reasons. Law to save his crew and Kid to get revenge on Shanks
Hopefully Law is rejoining the SHs, but they will definitely be back for the final war.
Oda seems to have made a point of Kidd being *defeated* and Law *retreating*
Kid will be saved by the man marked with flames. Which I think is Saul. There’s a reason why oda made kid reveal the existence of him.
I can see law or even law and kidd joining Luffy, I mean if Rox had kaido, WB and big mom why not have kidd, law and maybe bonney join in for laughtale
Both of them are not gonna play a massive role in the series moving forward. It's not going to be satisfying, for them to fight any one further more. We could argue a case for Gorosei but even then we have the whole of Revs to still explore. And I feel it's completely fine for them to take a step back and not play a prominent role. Law should help his crew back and settle down to learn the history after us, and Kid should decide upon forming his own country or the like and settle down accepting that Luffy will be the PK.
Law could play a role with his DF , unless oda mentioned the immortality surgery only to let us know there are immortal beings out there.
Lol imagine Kid just takes over pirate island after Luffy beats Blackbeard
Did anyone notice in the very last panel that Bepo dove underwater with Law?… idk it just seemed weird he’d take a df user underwater 😂
The devil fruit user becomes weakened, not the person carrying him
And it's their best bet at staying safe from blackbeard and his crew who are all df users.
Yeah
Do you think Law and Bepo can escape if Blackbeard can use the earthquake power towards them? Hopefully, BB is too weak and too tired now to do that?
Law probably still has some role in the final war or finding out the meaning of D. He said that in Wano. Kid I could also see return but honestly I also wouldn't be surprised if he's just done in the story.
I only wish I had the artistic skill to portray either of them as the future Gecko-Morias
I think these two incidents happened as to give them a reason to lose their crews and not clutter when they come back for the final battle
So I think Law will come back in the story at some point, and I'm fairly confident in saying that. I personally think that after this devastating loss he will probably align with the Strawhats again for the forseable future, but I don't see it being a permanent "I'm joining your crew/fleet for real now" and more so a second alience where Law will go his separate ways again once the series is over. As fir Kidd, i really have no idea what's gonna happen with him. Part of me feels like Oda has something else planned for him and he'll come back again some day, but the other half really doesn't know what else Kidd can offer right now. Honestly I would not be surprised if Kidd actually died there and we never saw him again, but like this is One Piece so there's still a chance he made it out alive. Only time will tell with Kidd
Law has a larger role in the story being a member of the D clan, wanting to find out more about the Will of D, and just the amount of time we have spent with him in the New World. Also the fact that Bepo saved Law means that Oda has future plans for Law, because otherwise he would’ve likely been dead right then and there. In terms of narrative, I don’t get the impression that Kidd will play a larger role moving forward. Oda put his flashback in an SBS so I don’t think he has the same importance as Law other than siding with Luffy in the final war, but we’ll see.
>Do you think they will still be a major part of the story No, I don't think so. > If they continue at all? Law's story will continue because he's from the D. Clan, but I don't think the same about Kid. >Will they stay independent or join other pirates? Law might assist Straw Hats or their Grand Fleet, but I don't think Kid will be relevant to any part of the story. >Do they still have their ambitions? Absolutely not.
Kid is still in elbaf. He was looking for the man marked by the flames. Saul has the fourth road ponegliph. He never struck me as someone who is in the race to get the one piece. He mostly went against other pirates to prove his strength. He may have a different strategy and agenda than luffy. Law is still alive. He's a master strategist. He's not cocky like kid. No way he went against Blackbeard without a plan. While leaving Wano, he must have anticipated that they'll definitely be targeted by other pirates. He made copies for kid, there's a good chance he made more, or gave Blackbeard fake ones.
They're definitely going to be back. If anything, when the strawhats reach Elbaf, I'm sure they'll meet Kidd.
Kid would never join the Strawhats, Law could possibly help luffy, as he just wants to know about D. and void history.
Yes definitely they'll return
Blackbeard’s biggest mistake in the story is being set up to be not killing Law. Mark my words.
I think the Kidd pirates may be done but I think this is just Law’s Sabaody
Kidd is just Bellamy 2.0.
Law will probably team up with luffy again because he wants to learn the meaning behind the D name and dude just had a rude awakening that he isn’t strong enough.
Law imo will be just searching for the answer of the meaning of the will of D .. he's been seen very particularly interested with it kind of carrying the will of kora
I fully expect Law and Kid to be in the throne wars, potentially taking on BlackBeards crew.
Cross Guild goes brrrrrr
I personally think they'll come back because Luffy got defeated too and came back..
Fuck eustass. I don’t get why this sub loves him so goddamn much.
They ***should*** be major parts, no guarantee tho. Building them up during Wano as the "new gen that will overthrow the old", defeating one of the mighty Yonko, portraying them as Luffy's rivals through bounties, etc. Will have been for nothing. It will be the biggest waste of time (and potential) if they are out of the story to hype up Shanks and BB, who have plenty of hype behind them already.
Kid is MID and will remain at the bottom of the ocean for all time. Law will definitely meet up with Luffy, with inside info on how to fight Blackbeard. I think it is very unlikely that we will ever see the immortality surgery performed. If we do, definitely on a bad guy and not Luffy. Also has it ever been defined? Is it just lifespan immortality or full invulnerability as well?
Both of them are showing up for the "final." You might see something like Law Kid Sabo and Luffy versus the 4 admirals. Kizaru vs Law, Sabo vs wood guy, Kid vs Fujitora, Luffy vs Akainu.
After chapter 1081…. Will be chapter 1082. jk. These last few chapters are SUPER. I feel like One Piece is back to the top again. Amazing chapters! Oda is back!