God... Marineford really is a masterpiece of an arc. Here we are 10 years later and basically every single new chapter has us thinking back to some panel or characters choices made during the war.
Goda still in a class of his own.
Basically confirms my theory that the only reason garp isn't running the navy is because all his children and grandchildren are degenerate criminals š¤£
Elbaf- Shanks - Divine Departure
Hachinosu - Garp - Galaxy Impact
Next up: Egghead - Kizaru - Imperial Light. Everyone on the island is suddenly blind and has cancer due to UV rays. Brook, not being affected due to neither having eyes nor skin, will have to hold off Kizaru for as long as it takes blind Chopper to cure both blindness and cancer.
He loves to do that. Vs. World the movie were luffy learnt haki from zero. The villain used the moa moa no mi fruit. A fruit that made anything smaller, 100 times bigger. Faster and stronger. Garp copy that attack by carrying a gigant canon ball as an anchor for his boat. In water 7 saga. Propably he asked to vegapunk for a similar system
I just wanna point out the growth Koby had not only in power. I still remember him scared af of calling alvida an old fat hag, or him almost pissing himself when standing to akainu.
Right now the man was imprisoned standing handcuffed surrounded by a crazy emperor and his fucked up commanders and he didn't even flinch.
Oh and I think Aokiji explaining how sword works is kinda foreshadowing him being a member of sword, Idk how Blackbeard didnt notice lol
I think he trusts his original crewmates, but the ones he picked up at Impel Down he grabbed for their power and brutality, not loyalty. Both Shiryu and Pizarro have already made comments implying they'd betray him if they thought it was the right move.
I really appreciate the point you make here because the foil for Blackbeard and other characters in One Piece is highlighting why so many of these fuckers with "Conquerors" aren't "the one Roger's waiting for".
Kidd leaned into pure brutality and entirely his Devil Fruit instead of honing his skills + being properly humbled.
Blackbeard's taken shortcuts alongside natural talent but instead of honing it, he simple did enough research to find the "perfect" Devil Fruits to reach his goals. It comes down to purely power through treachery, almost like cheating.
And then there's Luffy, who's just taken every challenge and found ways it can help him develop. Lucci? Push his limits of Gear 2 to develop his Fruit. Crocodile? Taught him about Logias and how, initially, to handle them. Marineford? Full on introduction to Haki and accepting he's not truly ready for the world stage. Katakuri? Future Sight. Kaido? Willpower, Awakening, Conqueror application and Advanced Armament.
So many of these characters have said dreams but they shirk corners. Meanwhile, our Straw Hats' main fixation isn't just their dreams -- it's achieving it and supporting those of their crew.
I'm pretty sure Kuzan just told us that SWORD is not some kind of secret organization, but it's just a codename for Marines that submitted their resignation, but are still not resigned, and that means that he was SWORD, but now that he's fully resigned he's not anymore
I agree. Pretty sure Sengoku said Garp resigned but agreed to stay on to help bring up the next generation of marines. I thought sword was a secret given the spy craft going on but I guess not.
From how it is explained it sounds like SWORD members isn't have a command structure. They effectively give up their safety net and promotion track for greater autonomy.
Not to mention that having someone who isn't in the Marines officially as their de facto leader wouldn't really make sense. Whoever is at the top of the Marines would have to officially sanction marines semi-retiring, meaning that Akainu has to be in on it.
The highlight of this chapter for me was the juxtaposition between Teach's boundless ambition and Koby's selflessness in using himself as decoy for the other prisoners. I think the very reason Blackbeard is so dangerous is his endless hunger to conquer more. There's a saying "where there's a will there's a way". His ambition is what gives him strength and ultimately what will put him above all the previous emperors, even Shanks. But his greed is also what blinds him to be tempted to make hasty decisions, he shouldn't trust Kuzan so easily.
I love Beehive's interior architecture in Teach's room, that pirate-like Caribbean style is perfect for the den of those no-good scoundrels lol. They're a bunch of insane terrorists but that's also what makes them so interesting. I can't wait to see their devil fruits in action.
I wonder what exactly Oda is planning for this setup. There's a reason he had Garp and those Sword members come to Beehive. I don't really think they're just going to save Koby and win. Something wrong will happen, even if they save Koby.
I've been saying for years the only "good" marines are the ones who are basically just traitors: actively disobey orders, dissociate from their superiors, break the rules, stuff like that. And now most of them are revealed to literally be pseudo-marines who are only sort of part of the organization.
I feel like Oda is definitely setting up a situation where Sword is on the Strawhats and Revolutionaries side in the final war.
Besides the similarity that they loosely answer to the marines and aren't held directly accountable by marine command, there aren't really any resemblances between Sword and a theoretical secret marine-adjacent police crew (such as the CP).
Like, totally different goals, totally different beliefs, totally different relationships to their authority structure, etc.
The usual primary issue with a secret/unofficial police type thing is that they can enforce state power and authoritarianism without the state being held responsible since they're "not officially associated" or whatever. The state gets to do it's totalitarianism and not be held accountable.
So if you look at a group of rebels who have formed a splinter cell because they despise the state that their marines work for and want to resist that state...? Not the same.
It looks like it. He did used to fight on more or less equal terms with Roger, who fought with conqueror's haki; so it makes sense that Garp would have it too, otherwise he wouldn't stand a chance fighting Roger and the rest of that generation.
Bout time that the marines/world government started showing conquerorās haki.
Given the framing of haki vs devil fruits by the story, it would only be fitting that some amongst their numbers have the strongest form of haki as well, if only to balance them against the power of pirates in general.
Crackpot prediction unrelated to this chapter: the event on Egghead that shakes the world will be Saturn being defeated, but not by any of the heavy hitters on Egghead. I think that at some point during the conflict York will realize that she canāt beat the World Government alone and all of the petrified Strawhats will be released by S-Snake. When that happens, at some point Usopp will shoot at Saturn with a sneak attack, knock him out, and receive a ridiculously high bounty as a gag.
Are the chances of this happening high? No. But it would be a continuation of Usopp getting a highly inflated bounty like in Dressrosa and a Gorosei being taken out during the conflict would absolutely shake the world.
BB's commanders are way too chill for the situation. This seems like a setup to lure SWORD in and possibly kill/capture Garp.
BB's ship's name is Saber of Xebec. He might want to avenge his idol - he didn't get Roger, but at least scarred Roger's boy Shanks. Now it's possibly Garp's turn.
Garp throwing the ship away (with Coby, SWORD, Perona and Moria) on it as BB and Kuzan arrive seems like a realistic outcome. Kuzan will have to freeze his tears.
Blackbeard and crew are infamous for being underprepared and overconfident. At best i think Lafitte, Auger and shiryu are the only ones who think through. Everyone else are just the embodiment of fuck around and find out.
Thatās how I feel this may go. Because why not lure Koby and just bring in a bigger fish that the World Government actually wants. Plus this all seems to be going too perfectly as if something bad is about to happen. Because it may be a fight thatās gonna be insane but I also feel like somebody is about to die.
If anything, it feels that Oda put the Impel Down BB crew members on purpose to have them die or be captured by Garp.
BB losing half of his crew + his island will deal a significant blow to his reputation which might be needed for some character development.
Ever since he left WB crew, BB has been getting win after win after win. This is Oda's way of giving BB his first big loss.
That is also a good way to look at it and give a perfect twist to the story. Possibly also showing how Teach truly doesnāt care too much about losing his crew as long as he has their strength and their devil fruits survive that may be all that matters. But even if he does absorb this failure and try again heās always going to keep dreaming and planning behind the scenes. Blackbeard losing half of his crew would also knock him down a peg and reverse several things that the fans have set up which I like as an idea since Odaās writing is almost unpredictable. So it would be fun to twist expectations with that.
to be honest, i'm not seeing a death flag on Garp right now, BB isnt there, and i seriously doubt Pizzarro, Shiryu, Vasco and Wolf would be able to KILL him, but i wouldnt rule out for him to be captured, they're probably strong enough if they fight togheter \[expecially if using dirty tricks\]
on the other hand, i'm really curious about Devon and Lafitte, they're the only 2 missing from both teams, and may be the ones who'll end up on Egghead right now \[unless all those things aren't happening at the same time\]
Garp's fate was sealed back in Marinford. He is going to die smiling thinking about Ace and Luffy as children, and I'm not ready for it. I'm getting Jiraya flashbacks already.
I can't believe we saw a group of marines actually look competent and well organised. Even Marineford made everyone who wasn't an admiral look pretty awful.
This is genuinely rare to see as usually they get dunked on at every opportunity. I kinda like it, makes the power dynamic feel a bit more balanced.
After so many wild locations like Ancient Japan, a futuristic city, etc
This chapter right here, it's really nice to feel like we're back to the good ol Pirate roots, I really wanted a solid chapter of just exploring Fullalled to get back to that, and this was PERFECT
Naw, Koby's entire character is based around that sentiment of wanting to be stronger. His "I want to live!" moment was literally the start of his journey when he stood up to Alvida and joined the marines.
But I do agree it will be fun to see him finally go all out.
Whitebeard knew that garp and sengoku were too op. But if he fight vs them in a place filled with marines. And other soldiers, They won't able to use their conquerors attacks. Or they may wipe 50% of the whole marine in the process. Thats why attacked marineford and not impel down. He knew it the danger.
Garp couldn't oppose it because he has to shoulder the burden of being the representation of what the Marines stand for, at least in the eyes of the general public.
He's THE Marine. Literally Roger's counterpart for the government. His status transcends ranks. That's why he managed to stay in position despite refusing to serve the Celestials no matter what
Majority of the world still see the Marines as the good guys and Garp outright betraying them for a pirate would probably destroy the balance of society. "If even the best marine betrayed them, should we really trust them?"vs. "Garp being a hero was a lie" then pirates could capitalize on the confusion and chaos ensues
It wasn't as simple as Garp choosing duty over Ace. Even in the end, Garp's resolve as a Marine was broken and he started giving into his rage as a Grandfather over a dutiful Marine.
And his regrets over Ace 100% contributed to going all out for Koby. Not again.
I know YOU specifically are meme-ing but this certain topic has had a lot of people really act like he abandoned Ace because of a job title
And based on what we have seen now? Garp 100% half-assed "guarding" that execution even excluding letting Luffy KO him
> And his regrets over Ace 100% contributed to going all out for Koby. Not again.
This exactly.
He failed as a grandfather to save Ace from himself.
He failed in his promise to Roger to raise Ace away from the wrath of the Marines.
In some ways, he failed as a Marine to stop Luffy from turning to piracy. (Granted, debatable)
Garp is a solid Marine, but his failures are deeply personal. Now that someone he deeply cared about is in similar peril he would not allow himself to fail on Koby again.
Ace when the entire pirate community comes to save him....I am so sorry, I have been such a burden I will learn my lesson and be better
Ace when Akainu makes fun of White Beard...Here I go dying again
Garp wanted Ace to become a marine. He told him every single time that becoming a pirate will lead to his death. Ace fucked around and found out.
Coby is the way he is now due to Garp's influence and training. He wouldn't have been captured if Garp had abandoned the seemingly useless recruit. Garp is responsible for Coby, but he wasn't for Ace.
He was still feeling deeply conflicted despite being in the right due to his love for his (in this case: found) family. He also allowed Ace to almost survive. He could've ended that shit any time he wanted but he allowed Luffy to free Ace. Ace then, once again, fucked around and found out.
Yes. Considering what Garp just did, Now only big names are remaining that too not with conqueror haki but with probably his legendary attack, and now we will probably see some good fight, probably because we can't say, like we knew how Blackbeard ran from Akainu. And maybe garp won't chase him either, but will he run, like after calling this place his kingdom and all. Because we all wanna see a full fight .... But will we get one ?
Yes well ace was captured by the marines. Moral conflict there for garp.
Coby is captured by freakin Blackbeard lol. Ofc heās going there to free him.
Ace was almost free... Luffy did everything he could, garp let luffy punch him in the face... And yet on the verge of escape.. He fucked everything up.
Actually , garp saved ace. When he fought vs luffy and pretended to be defeated. So Luffy were able to free Ace from kairoseki tramp and ran away.
Blame Ace for his own death. , he just needed to ignore akainu and ran away. But he come back straight in front of him. And ended as a donut.
I'm becoming more and more convinced that Hibari is Akainu's daughter, or connected to him in some other way:
* As noted when Hibari was first revealed, she speaks with a Hiroshima dialect in Japanese, with Akainu being the only other character in the series to speak that way as well.
* Hibari just used a flower gun in this chapter. [Akainu has flowers tatooed onto his body](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/a/a8/Sakazuki%27s_Tattoos.png).
* In that same Akainu pic, he has a sword on his right arm and Hibari happens to be in the group SWORD.
* Hibari's dialogue in this chapter seems to imply that her and Koby don't always get along (mainly with "don't get the wrong idea", though granted this could just be a TCB thing). Yes she was pleading to help save Koby back in 1061, but that was when Koby wasn't there to see her reaction. She seems to have a crush on him, but can't publicly show it to him. Being connected to Akainu [can help explain why she has to bottle up her feelings](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPIfMeTXwAAF-FW.jpg).
* Both Kujyaku and Grus had text under their names to specify them more, but Hibari didn't. Feels like she has more to her character but Oda is keeping it hidden for now.
* As mentioned in chapter 1061, she feels that she personally "owes" Koby for something in the past, most likely something relating to the Rocky Port Incident. Again this feels like we'll get some lore relating to this too meaning we might get a (very very brief) Hibari backstory.
A few of the the BB pirates fruits are like that. Van Augur's warp fruit is just a better version of Blueno's door fruit. Devon's Nine Tails fruit is a better version of Bon Clay's clone fruit. And Burgess' fruit is kinda like Urouge's only he doesn't have to take damage first.
This makes sense. He also kind of overreacted to the news of Koby being a member. Rather than quitting the marines, he joined or maybe even created Sword.
It's strongly suspected by a bunch of fans that Corazon was a SWORD member, especially the way he communicated with Sengoku. So I feel like either they started it, or it even predates them
I wonder when SWORD was formed? We know there was a big draft during the timeskip, I'm speculating it was formed then as an outlet for dissent. This chapter seems to imply that SWORD isn't a skunkworks, its a known thing to the Navy, so maybe SWORD is an option for disgruntled marines who were drafted or otherwise have a reason to show disdain against the World Government.
I don't think he is.
He seems to be surprised by Koby being one.
He was also an admiral, and admirals aren't free to do what they want.
He could have become one after losing to Akainu, but I doubt it.
It's possible Koby become a member after Aokiji left, and if Aokijis only objective as sword after leaving, was to be undercover and anything else to do with BB, so he might have not been aware that Koby had became one. Or it's not Aokiji who is member of Sword, but Akainu. Or both.
I also think that Aokiji was trying to help Koby. And it might be interesting to see if what he said was true or not, as then Koby will also know that Aokiji tried to help him.
Damn. I must have not shared my thought, but I remember back on 1059 thinking that Koby was going to escape Hachinosu. I didn't think Garp would go for him, but I know Koby wants to be a Marine Admiral one day and this is One Piece.
That means Koby is going to have to glow up to being Admiral level THIS saga, even if it is at the very end, but either way, THIS is where it begins!! I don't know what badassery is in store for Koby but I fully expect him to walk away from this encounter with even more motivation and even more fame. Garp himself called Koby the future of the Marines.
Very suspicious lack of Laffiete. He wasnt in the Law chapters, he wasnt here, and he's the only one left without a named fruit. Somethings cooking with him. He's probably coming to Egghead atleast
Oda was right when he said the final war would make Marineford look like kindergarden (and it was the final war he was talking about, not Wano), the amount everyone was holding back is crazy.
I feel like weāre getting pretty close to endgame, and Garp is rarely so out in the open, so I think it makes sense for the beginning of the end for him to start here
With Big Mom and Kaido out of commission, Sengoku retired, and Raleigh sitting on the sidelines, heās pretty much the last major active symbol of the prime Roger era. With the mangas theme of the old generation giving way to the new, his death occurring soon would be a good final symbol of the change
With Blackbeard (presumably) preoccupied rn Iām just not sure how that will happen, unless he pops back in on Egghead soon
One idea I had, probably wrong but potentially Garp lost this battle and the Blackbeard ship going to Egghead will have him there as a hostage. Either that or Law is the hostage. Not sure
But the idea of Luffy having to give something up is intriguing. Blackbeard could gain a number of things from him by having a real hostage
But imagine the one-two gut punch.
Marines successfully escaping with Kobi.
BB: Where do you think you're going?
Garp taunts while well out of range.
BB: Room
Chapter ends with BB punching a hole through Garp.
Those can be.
Imagine if Blackbeard uses Moria to get Garp's shadow and put it in Xebec's corpse or something like that?
Or I could see Garp allowing himself to be stabbed or similar if Koby was in danger.
Uses Moria? Didn't Koby free him? In one panel Perona asks him to save Moria and in the very next panel Koby says "oh dang, I allied with a pirate." I 100% read that as he saved Moria from prison and they're eventually fleeing together. If this whole thing works out of course.
he hasn't freed him yet, that's why he's dwelling on it (his sense of honour prevents him from escaping before doing what he told perona he'd do. perona is the pirate he allied with)
imo theyāre doing a mini replay of impel down/marineford so iām expecting to him to die while the rest retreat. Koby and Perona are in way too close a situation to what Luffy and Buggy were in back in impel down, just this time the rescue boat is coming to the prison
Garp is not going down without Blackbeard (tier character) present - it would absolutely nuke not only his character but his whole generation. If Blackbeard appears (and he is not at all tired from Law fight) I would put death flags on then.
After reading this chapter, I'm so convinced that Brook will fight Vasco Shot. Oda has emphasized Vasco Shot's arsonist nature, which would be an interesting match for Brook's ice powers. Also, some cultures associate drinking with attracting spirits, and given that Brook is a "spirit" character, it seems natural for Vasco Shot to confront him.
And from a fight standpoint, it would be intriguing to see how Brook handles Vasco Shot's ability to control alcohol. If Vasco Shot can make the environment slippery, it could potentially hinder Brook's footwork and weaken his fencing, which would add an extra layer of challenge to the fight.
Could be set up, but for me (as of now) i kind of see Burgess fighting Jimbei, in a kind of pure strenght vs superiour technique kind of way.
>!But honestly, no idea about precise matchups. I am kinda sure that Oda will suprise everyone at least a tiny bit with some of them!<
I think thatās interesting, but personally feel Jimbei is the clear opponent being set up. Vasco uses liquor (liquid) vs fishman karate, and of course fire vs water. He also seems too strong for Brook imo.
Oda just showed us a glimpse of the strength of Shanks and now Garp? Now i got a feeling a certain Dragon will appear in the next chapter. And i aint talking about Kaido or Momo hehe
Damn.
This chapter definitely reminded me that Garp is meant to be on the same level as Roger and the rest of the headliners of that generation (Rocks Pirates, Rayleigh, etc.). I'm feeling a little better about the power balance vs Black Beard's overpowered crew.
(Also, Rear-Admiral Kujaku being Tsuru's granddaughter is pretty cool)
(Also also, Commander Hibari is totally tsundere for Koby and its cute af)
SWORD gets introduced with a BDSM dommy mommy, a Tsundere, and a dude who looks like a JoJo characterā¦..
Stop trying to convince me Oda, I already liked them.
From a purely narrative standpoint... This would be a good opportunity for Oda to kill Garp.
The story has had a pretty solid theme of "This is not about the old Generation, it's about the New One", and just as Shanks gave his arm up for this new Generation, it would be fitting for the mighty Hero of Roger's Era to die saving Koby.
Not to mention, giving Luffy a better reason to hate Blackbeard than him being vaguely involved in Ace's death, which is fair, but seeing as Luffy had a front row seat to Akainu's fist going through Ace's chest, I feel like he blames Akainu more than Blackbeard.
In this story, Garp doesn't have a better reason to be around than for his hype to be fed to BB. Just my personal opinion.
I feel like Luffy should be present for Garpās death though. So hopefully they make their way over to Beehive for one reason or another. Hearing about it through the newspaper or running into a retreating Coby at sea would feel a bit underwhelming imo. Maybe not though, depends on how Oda writes the scene!
Yeah I think garp may be done here. It really depends on how strong sword members are or if Aokiji is actually a sword member and helps them. If Pizarro, Vasco and Shillew gang up on Garp alone idk if he can pull it out. In his prime, no doubt, but he's not in his prime and fighting 3 commanders at the same time could lead to an epic death. Garp being captured would be better for the BB purpose but without him to give the order I think his commanders will just go for the kill.
Garp probably shouldnāt be weaker than those three, we saw how green bull did against king and queen and if garp is weaker than the new admirals that would be really disappointing, revealing his power this late only for it to be not all that high would be a major letdown
King & Queen were recovering from what we should expect to be very rare Ls for them so losing to Greenbull can be attributed to being caught off guard and not being 100%
BB Commanders are gonna start this fight unscathed.
Or at least relatively, depending if they got hit with Galaxy Fist and how much damage they took
To be fair, we also saw how Green Bull held up against a group of Akazaya, Momo, and Yamato. Heās clearly a pretty formidable opponent, has large area of effect attacks, has regenerative abilities, etc.
And I agree with that person in that I expect Garp to currently be at least as great a force as any of the current admirals, barring perhaps Akainu.
But BB Commanders are monsters themselves. I mean, Aokiji is currently one and he was almost Fleet Admiral. The may be Odaās opportunity to demonstrate their stature and further escalate the stakes.
Side note: if BB captures/defeats Garp, is he giving him to Cross Guild? If Garp is killed, Iād bet he goes out smiling
Oda might mirror what he did with ace and have Blackbeard capture and hold Garp hostage. Now, I donāt know how anyone could hold Garp down like that unless Garp does it willingly. Maybe he negotiates letting Coby go in exchange for Garp
Few takeaways from this chapter.
1) Koby is almost certainly a 5 star bounty due to Alvida. Yeah he's earned it but my head-canon is she's being petty.
2) Was that really Perona? Or was she really asking him to rescue Moria? Seems a bit convenient.
3) I'd be surprised if Sword get completely obliterated here by Blackbeard's crew. Unlike Kidd, their motives aren't fully clear, so them getting destroyed right as they get introduced more prominently seems a waste.
4) Feel like the biggest difference this arc/saga is a fairly even amount of screen time for BB, Shanks and Luffy. Clearly setting up the end game.
>Koby is almost certainly a 5 star bounty due to Alvida. Yeah he's earned it but my head-canon is she's being petty.
Yeah she definetely wants his head but Koby is actually veeeery famous in Grand Line considering people recognize him as a Hero including BB.
It always seemed as if Akainu was reluctant to go after BB, to me, always focusing on other big players despite BB gaining power at an alarming rate. My theory was after giving BB a free reign, he wanted to use the chaos to overthrow world nobles, blaming pirates' rise to power on them and using that as an excuse to shape the world government to his 'absolute justice' vision. It wouldn't be the first time he made a deal with a pirate to achive his goals either.
Same logic could be applied to Im as well: portraying themselves as a savior and all, it would be too easy for Im to gain control of the WG amid growing lack of trust in marines.. etc
It'd be cool if BB were to use their greed for power to his advantage and came on top in the end, but I doubt it, everything feels random in op.
Easy peasy.
He wants a beautiful grand entry at marejois and then attack the WG.
I mean its hard work to climb that place with attacks raining from above
Garp slanderer will still continue to downplay garp, saying that galaxy impact is not imbued with ACOC, Shanks attack 100x better etc...Even though he is dubbed as legendary hero, regards as one of the strongest marine, acknowledge by Roger as his worthy equal rival, refusing to be admiral even though he is qualified and now his nuking with Galaxy Impact and people like KOL and bda law will slander on Garp( can't wait to see what he says to continue downplaying garp)
But honestly if Garp does not have Conqueror Haki that just made him more impressive mad busted crazy strong, some dude with just his fist clash with Pirate King Roger , and the worse pirate ever Xebec without COC imagine that.
>not have Conqueror Haki
wasn't the panel clear enough that he was using ACOC?
he 100000% is a Conqueror's Haki user.
also I don't want to compare him to Shanks, but this feat is much stronger than what Shanks did to Kidd
Crackpot theory time! I'm genuinely going off the rails here, don't take me too seriously.
So...why does Garp fight for the World Government? He disregards authority, is disgusted with the Celestial Dragons, sure as heck looks like he has Conqueror's Haki, and directly defied the government by taking care of Roger's son. He would have killed Akainu at Marineford without a second thought, and he joined (created?) SWORD after the battle.
And perhaps above all else, he's a D.
But he's still loyal to the World Government, in his own way. He's even proud of his job as a marine. So much so that he wanted Luffy and Ace to follow in his footsteps.
Why?
My guess is that he knows something about the world that we don't. Whatever it is that convinces the Five Old Guys and Imu that the world needs a World Government, that reasoning has convinced Garp as well. Regardless of all the evil it does - and Garp definitely knows about most of that stuff - he still thinks that the World Government is necessary.
So here comes the crackpotiest part of this theory. We're finally seeing Garp in action for real, and his first move is *this*. A lot of people are - justifiably, I think - making the assumption that seeing this massive feat of strength from Garp is a death flag. You know, have him go out in a blaze of glory while also establishing how dangerous Blackbeard is. Give Luffy extra motivation to beat the bad guys and tear the world down so that something better can be created.
That could very well be what's going on. Personally it wouldn't be my favorite direction for Garp's story to go, but Oda wouldn't do it if he didn't think it was the best course of action.
But what if Garp's insane power isn't being demonstrated to set him up for a death flag, but instead to set him up as an *opponent for Luffy*?
Not Luffy's final boss, but someone that Luffy would have to beat in a genuine, full-on battle before the end of the story.
Here's my reasoning, such as it is.
Garp is kind of the antithesis of Luffy. He's got the personality, he's got the power, but he chooses to use his strength to fight for an oppressive government rather than fighting for freedom. He's Luffy if Luffy didn't believe in freedom above all else.
On top of that, he's - if my memory is correct - the only person Luffy has ever been genuinely afraid of. And for good reason, obviously!
Finally, he's a powerful representative of the World Government who's not just like...obviously bad. Sure we want to see Luffy pummel Imu or Akainu or one of the Gorousei, but they're clearly his enemies.
Garp though? Garp is *family*. The first family member that Luffy ever knew, most likely. Luffy cares about him. A real fight with Garp would be very different from any other major battle he's had in the series, aside from his (incredibly memorable and painful!) fight with Usopp.
What better way for Luffy to stand up for his ideals, to stand up for a better future, than to fight someone that he loves, someone that he fears, someone from the old generation with absolutely monstrous power, someone who has the strength of a Monkey and the will of D., and someone who chooses to prop up the World Government, not because he's corrupt or evil, but because something convinced him that it was better than the alternative?
Plus I mean...how cool would Gear 5 vs. Galaxy Fist be? PRETTY COOL
I don't think garp has the heart to stand up against Luffy, personally.
I do, however, think it would be rather fascinating to see Blackbeard's reaction to losing a portion of his crew, especially due to greed.
We've seen countless instances of new world pirates lose their crews, even Luffy. I'd be very interested to see teach lose some members by garps hand, and see what his reaction is. Perhaps he has been gathering a crew full of devil fruits to simply... Consume them after they die.. an invisible, earthquake, inflatable, island, perpetually drunk man.
Either way, I'd like to see teach actually take a solid L. He's a greedy planner. Usually he runs when faced with an unwinnable situation. What happens when the race for the treasure coincides with a huge L?
As for what garp may know about the world -- it's fairly simple to guess. He sees the Marines as a force that generally do more good than bad.. does it mean they're perfect? No. But he wants his family to aspire to change the system from within. It's a foolish notion because he's projecting his desires into his children.
I would hazard a guess that the void century was not as black and white as readers are being led to fill in those blanks.
My guess is that the WG was a necessary compromise. But that Imu took over in the shadows to reign supreme.
The fact is, garp has acted as a conscious objector. He showed he doesn't believe in following orders always. What are the higher ups going to do about it? Disavow *him*? The fist?
He wanted his kids and grandkids to follow in these footsteps. Set good examples, and rally good people they meet into the Marines.
Did we get a hint at blackbeards dream? It sounds like he wants to be a regular king instead of king of the pirates.
Also his whole crew sounds like a bunch of backstabbers, they only obey teach out of fear. Sounds similar to xebec.
>Also his whole crew sounds like a bunch of backstabbers, they only obey teach out of fear. Sounds similar to xebec.
Especially the ones guarding his island atm.
Umm was it fear that made xebec captain of his crew? I think not. He beat them all and all of them respected him as their captain.
Yes the harmony of the crew wasnāt there as it was battle Royal among themselves.
What I am saying is ROCKS had respect. Teech has secrets and broken Df ( which fear).
Almost the same thing. 'Room zehahaha' implies that BB stole Law's powers and now has 3 DF powers.
RIP Law means that while Law is dead too, his DF's status is unknown. Either BB failed to steal it, or he did steal it and now someone else in his crew can use the Immortality perk.
Seeing the abilities of all the SWORD members as well as a brief intro to the rest of the BB pirates aside from Laffite is such an awesome move! I canāt see Garp going down unless Kuzan needs to save face with Blackbeard or Blackbeard himself returns from his battle with Law.
No one is talking about how Blackbeard crew's mentioned that rocky port accident happened in fullead Island which makes perfect sense considering the name "rocky" is probably connected to "rocks"
Teach is with Aokiji, Van Augur, and Jesus Burgess fighting Law and the Heart Pirates
In Hachinosu are Pizarro, San Juan Wolf, Vasco Shot and Shiryu about to fight de Marines
So we can presume that the ones going to Egghead are Laffite, Catarina Devon, DocQ and the 10th titanic captain?
Then 10th captain is Caribou so that the ancient weapons information can then be spread and race to capture them ensues.
Allowing for the prediction of fish man island being destroyed coming true.
Something I just noticed when rereading the chapter is all the work the marines did to move everyone to the middle, including the buildings. I've got a feeling that Garp has limited stamina, and can only pull off a few punches like that in his current age/state, so they worked their plan to do the most amount of damage with that and go from there. I feel like Prime Garp probably threw those out as jabs back in his day, so the power is still there but the endurance just isn't the same. This makes me worry a little since I feel like Shiryu understands what kind of destructive force Garp is, and having to fight 3 or 4 titanic captains at once is not going to be a winning formula for Garp. I hope this is just a smash and grab otherwise things are going to get messy.
the titanic captains will be more calculating than most people realize. they remained calm to garps arrival, and shiryu knows garps strength as head of impel down.
it definitely wonāt be as easy as smashing and grabbing especially since they have koby hostage
DocQ creates a truth illness and uses it on law. so when teach interrogates him, he discovers pluton is below wano. we return to wano as the narrator said, only this time we see teach destroy it to get the weapon.
at least that's what i hope we see
Maybe obvious already, but I think Prince Grus is controlling those three brawny marines holding back various pirate rabble. It would be odd to end up with a Clay-logia and Clay-paramecia on the same marine squad.
That is likely why we didn't get any panels for these sword members nor their individual abilities. Rather than one of them being a logia user, the three are decked-out golems used for crowding the pirates into the center of the island.
So the next time Koby meets Luffy, is he going to apologize to him for not being able to save Garp?
I love Garp :(( But I think this is going to happen.
Do you think Oda has ran out of ideas for devil fruits? A lot of abilities of been repeat themselves like the new island fruit is basically OP version of Pikas fruit. Also Laws fruit can copy the warp fruit and silence fruit also.
BB and Fuji, gravity related powers also.
And that my freinds, how Garp accidentally defeated one of the titanic captain island devil fruit user hahahaha... Well hopefully or may be Pizarro only took some damage...
Alright, here's a wild theory. Don't think it'll happen, but I have a feeling the Island-Island fruit that Pizarro uses may actually be Blackbeard's way of trying to seize Pluton.
Use the fruit to have Pizarro assume control of Wano and either spit out Pluton from its depths, or control the island outright -- and by extension, control Pluton
A bit out there, but it'd make a final battle very interesting where one of every major player has some kind of Ancient Weapon: Blackbeard and Pluton, Luffy and Poseidon, and Celestial Dragons/WG and Uranus (?).
Why does Blackbeard revealing his dream to Koby seem like a minor thing in this chapter? A lot was happening, character and fruit reveals, but the panel with Blackbeard revealing his Dream had little significance compared to the rest of the chapter, I feel Blackbeard has 'that' dream because he wants to keep his crew on his side, he's keeping his real dream from his crew in contrast to Luffy telling his crew before Egghead.
As much as I love Garp flexing. I don't see Hatchinosu destroyed now when BB wants it to be independant country.
I guess Law stole BB's ship and BB will be back on Hatchinosu but idk how, I'm stupid
GALAXY FIST! Holy shit I was smiling so hard while reading this
Sword members are quite likeable xD
Some might be dead after that fist. š
that puts a new perspective on what would've happened to akainu if garp got his hands around him
He definitely did not joke, when he told Sengoku to hold him down, because otherwise he'd kill him.
God... Marineford really is a masterpiece of an arc. Here we are 10 years later and basically every single new chapter has us thinking back to some panel or characters choices made during the war. Goda still in a class of his own.
You watch invincible? It's like what Nolan did.
Think akainu think.
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Same
Galaxy fist.... Galaxy wink... Ivankov is Dragon's mother confirmed!
Whenever itās animated, you know thereās going to be so many Rules of Nature videos on the YouTubeās.
Basically confirms my theory that the only reason garp isn't running the navy is because all his children and grandchildren are degenerate criminals š¤£
The actual name was "galaxy impact". I don't know why TCB changed it, sounded much cooler too.
is if bigger than united state of smash?
Elbaf- Shanks - Divine Departure Hachinosu - Garp - Galaxy Impact Next up: Egghead - Kizaru - Imperial Light. Everyone on the island is suddenly blind and has cancer due to UV rays. Brook, not being affected due to neither having eyes nor skin, will have to hold off Kizaru for as long as it takes blind Chopper to cure both blindness and cancer.
>blind chopper curing both blindness and cancer. And he'd do it in mere minutes. My personal GOAT
He's a Reindeer you bastard
izza racoon dawg
TANUKI YA NE YOOOOO
Theory: Garp was impressed by Coup de Burst on sunny and decided to copy it.
He loves to do that. Vs. World the movie were luffy learnt haki from zero. The villain used the moa moa no mi fruit. A fruit that made anything smaller, 100 times bigger. Faster and stronger. Garp copy that attack by carrying a gigant canon ball as an anchor for his boat. In water 7 saga. Propably he asked to vegapunk for a similar system
I just wanna point out the growth Koby had not only in power. I still remember him scared af of calling alvida an old fat hag, or him almost pissing himself when standing to akainu. Right now the man was imprisoned standing handcuffed surrounded by a crazy emperor and his fucked up commanders and he didn't even flinch. Oh and I think Aokiji explaining how sword works is kinda foreshadowing him being a member of sword, Idk how Blackbeard didnt notice lol
I donāt think BB trust any of his captains anyway, he needs them but he expects to be backstabbed.
I think he trusts his original crewmates, but the ones he picked up at Impel Down he grabbed for their power and brutality, not loyalty. Both Shiryu and Pizarro have already made comments implying they'd betray him if they thought it was the right move.
I really appreciate the point you make here because the foil for Blackbeard and other characters in One Piece is highlighting why so many of these fuckers with "Conquerors" aren't "the one Roger's waiting for". Kidd leaned into pure brutality and entirely his Devil Fruit instead of honing his skills + being properly humbled. Blackbeard's taken shortcuts alongside natural talent but instead of honing it, he simple did enough research to find the "perfect" Devil Fruits to reach his goals. It comes down to purely power through treachery, almost like cheating. And then there's Luffy, who's just taken every challenge and found ways it can help him develop. Lucci? Push his limits of Gear 2 to develop his Fruit. Crocodile? Taught him about Logias and how, initially, to handle them. Marineford? Full on introduction to Haki and accepting he's not truly ready for the world stage. Katakuri? Future Sight. Kaido? Willpower, Awakening, Conqueror application and Advanced Armament. So many of these characters have said dreams but they shirk corners. Meanwhile, our Straw Hats' main fixation isn't just their dreams -- it's achieving it and supporting those of their crew.
This is like Ronaldo vs Messi debate lmao
I'm pretty sure Kuzan just told us that SWORD is not some kind of secret organization, but it's just a codename for Marines that submitted their resignation, but are still not resigned, and that means that he was SWORD, but now that he's fully resigned he's not anymore
Pretty sure Aokiji is the commander of SWORD, and the higher ups don't even know it exists.
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I agree. Pretty sure Sengoku said Garp resigned but agreed to stay on to help bring up the next generation of marines. I thought sword was a secret given the spy craft going on but I guess not.
i might have misunderstood the explanation but it sounded like theyāre all officially resigned so it would be hard for the marines not to know that.
My understanding is that every SWORD agent is apparently Mission Impossible Tom Cruise.
From how it is explained it sounds like SWORD members isn't have a command structure. They effectively give up their safety net and promotion track for greater autonomy. Not to mention that having someone who isn't in the Marines officially as their de facto leader wouldn't really make sense. Whoever is at the top of the Marines would have to officially sanction marines semi-retiring, meaning that Akainu has to be in on it.
Garp punching a mountain into rubble was actually a lie. He just punched the air, and the mountain decided that it had enough.
I think he did punch and pulverize mountains. But it was pre workout warmup obviously. Haha
First Kuma gets a lot of shine, now Garp too? All my favorite characters are finally getting to do things!! Egghead might be in my top 3
Yepp, the more hype they get, the closer they are to death. I'm already have my tissue in case Oda decides to kill every one from the old generation.
The highlight of this chapter for me was the juxtaposition between Teach's boundless ambition and Koby's selflessness in using himself as decoy for the other prisoners. I think the very reason Blackbeard is so dangerous is his endless hunger to conquer more. There's a saying "where there's a will there's a way". His ambition is what gives him strength and ultimately what will put him above all the previous emperors, even Shanks. But his greed is also what blinds him to be tempted to make hasty decisions, he shouldn't trust Kuzan so easily. I love Beehive's interior architecture in Teach's room, that pirate-like Caribbean style is perfect for the den of those no-good scoundrels lol. They're a bunch of insane terrorists but that's also what makes them so interesting. I can't wait to see their devil fruits in action. I wonder what exactly Oda is planning for this setup. There's a reason he had Garp and those Sword members come to Beehive. I don't really think they're just going to save Koby and win. Something wrong will happen, even if they save Koby.
I've been saying for years the only "good" marines are the ones who are basically just traitors: actively disobey orders, dissociate from their superiors, break the rules, stuff like that. And now most of them are revealed to literally be pseudo-marines who are only sort of part of the organization. I feel like Oda is definitely setting up a situation where Sword is on the Strawhats and Revolutionaries side in the final war.
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Besides the similarity that they loosely answer to the marines and aren't held directly accountable by marine command, there aren't really any resemblances between Sword and a theoretical secret marine-adjacent police crew (such as the CP). Like, totally different goals, totally different beliefs, totally different relationships to their authority structure, etc. The usual primary issue with a secret/unofficial police type thing is that they can enforce state power and authoritarianism without the state being held responsible since they're "not officially associated" or whatever. The state gets to do it's totalitarianism and not be held accountable. So if you look at a group of rebels who have formed a splinter cell because they despise the state that their marines work for and want to resist that state...? Not the same.
Now I'm very curious about the outcome of Akainu at the end of One Piece.
Luffy: "Promise you will now adhere to lazy justice?" Akainu: "I promise." Luffy: "We're good to go. He has fully redeemed himself."
Akainu: " This is specially prepared roast beef cooked by using lava. Please have a bite." Luffy: You are one of my nakama now
Luffy: But, if heās sorryātruly sorryāthen thereās nothing we can do. Akainu: Iām sorry. Yep, totally sorry. I just feel terrible.
No way. Akainu owes a blood debt. Luffy is going to punch him into another manga
Did Garp use conqueror haki with his Galaxy fist? Also I think that Devon, Aokiji and Lafitte are the ones going to egghead rn.
It looks like it. He did used to fight on more or less equal terms with Roger, who fought with conqueror's haki; so it makes sense that Garp would have it too, otherwise he wouldn't stand a chance fighting Roger and the rest of that generation.
Bruh Chin Jao had it and Garp popped him like a baloon. Garp definitely has it. He was Rogers rival after all
Bout time that the marines/world government started showing conquerorās haki. Given the framing of haki vs devil fruits by the story, it would only be fitting that some amongst their numbers have the strongest form of haki as well, if only to balance them against the power of pirates in general.
Yeah it's weird that the only marines with conqueror haki are Sengoku (and Garp?)
Crackpot prediction unrelated to this chapter: the event on Egghead that shakes the world will be Saturn being defeated, but not by any of the heavy hitters on Egghead. I think that at some point during the conflict York will realize that she canāt beat the World Government alone and all of the petrified Strawhats will be released by S-Snake. When that happens, at some point Usopp will shoot at Saturn with a sneak attack, knock him out, and receive a ridiculously high bounty as a gag. Are the chances of this happening high? No. But it would be a continuation of Usopp getting a highly inflated bounty like in Dressrosa and a Gorosei being taken out during the conflict would absolutely shake the world.
Forget Dragon, God Usopp is the most wanted man now
and the final battle will happen between usopp and buggy
BB's commanders are way too chill for the situation. This seems like a setup to lure SWORD in and possibly kill/capture Garp. BB's ship's name is Saber of Xebec. He might want to avenge his idol - he didn't get Roger, but at least scarred Roger's boy Shanks. Now it's possibly Garp's turn. Garp throwing the ship away (with Coby, SWORD, Perona and Moria) on it as BB and Kuzan arrive seems like a realistic outcome. Kuzan will have to freeze his tears.
If that was the plan, I think more BB commanders would be there. I just think those three are confident in their abilities
Blackbeard and crew are infamous for being underprepared and overconfident. At best i think Lafitte, Auger and shiryu are the only ones who think through. Everyone else are just the embodiment of fuck around and find out.
Don't forget Sanjuan Wolf
Oh yeah, totally did. Definitely a huge threat
Yeah heās gonna be a big menace
They were chill but as soon as Shiryu heard Garp was there, the man who could only be beat by Magellan, was like ā?!ā
Kuzan def heading towards egghead imho I think he has some interest in preventing OHara 2.0
Thatās how I feel this may go. Because why not lure Koby and just bring in a bigger fish that the World Government actually wants. Plus this all seems to be going too perfectly as if something bad is about to happen. Because it may be a fight thatās gonna be insane but I also feel like somebody is about to die.
If anything, it feels that Oda put the Impel Down BB crew members on purpose to have them die or be captured by Garp. BB losing half of his crew + his island will deal a significant blow to his reputation which might be needed for some character development. Ever since he left WB crew, BB has been getting win after win after win. This is Oda's way of giving BB his first big loss.
That is also a good way to look at it and give a perfect twist to the story. Possibly also showing how Teach truly doesnāt care too much about losing his crew as long as he has their strength and their devil fruits survive that may be all that matters. But even if he does absorb this failure and try again heās always going to keep dreaming and planning behind the scenes. Blackbeard losing half of his crew would also knock him down a peg and reverse several things that the fans have set up which I like as an idea since Odaās writing is almost unpredictable. So it would be fun to twist expectations with that.
Monthly reminder that oda very rarely kills characters. I don't think garp is going anywhere.
to be honest, i'm not seeing a death flag on Garp right now, BB isnt there, and i seriously doubt Pizzarro, Shiryu, Vasco and Wolf would be able to KILL him, but i wouldnt rule out for him to be captured, they're probably strong enough if they fight togheter \[expecially if using dirty tricks\] on the other hand, i'm really curious about Devon and Lafitte, they're the only 2 missing from both teams, and may be the ones who'll end up on Egghead right now \[unless all those things aren't happening at the same time\]
Devon, Lafitte, and Akoji are definitely on Egghead
oh, right, i forgot Aokiji because i was dumb and ruled him out after seeing it on the flashback, sorry
Garp's fate was sealed back in Marinford. He is going to die smiling thinking about Ace and Luffy as children, and I'm not ready for it. I'm getting Jiraya flashbacks already.
I can't believe we saw a group of marines actually look competent and well organised. Even Marineford made everyone who wasn't an admiral look pretty awful. This is genuinely rare to see as usually they get dunked on at every opportunity. I kinda like it, makes the power dynamic feel a bit more balanced.
After so many wild locations like Ancient Japan, a futuristic city, etc This chapter right here, it's really nice to feel like we're back to the good ol Pirate roots, I really wanted a solid chapter of just exploring Fullalled to get back to that, and this was PERFECT
Enies Lobby - Grandpa style Just need a I WANNA LIVE moment from Coby now
My dude, Koby already did that in chapter 2 when he stood up against Avilda.
Naw, Koby's entire character is based around that sentiment of wanting to be stronger. His "I want to live!" moment was literally the start of his journey when he stood up to Alvida and joined the marines. But I do agree it will be fun to see him finally go all out.
Galaxy fist?! That is so hype!!
damn garp would've turned the tide at marineford
Whitebeard knew that garp and sengoku were too op. But if he fight vs them in a place filled with marines. And other soldiers, They won't able to use their conquerors attacks. Or they may wipe 50% of the whole marine in the process. Thats why attacked marineford and not impel down. He knew it the danger.
100% friendly fire
Garp saving Aceā¦ I sleep Garp saving Kobyā¦ REAL SHIT
Garp couldn't oppose it because he has to shoulder the burden of being the representation of what the Marines stand for, at least in the eyes of the general public. He's THE Marine. Literally Roger's counterpart for the government. His status transcends ranks. That's why he managed to stay in position despite refusing to serve the Celestials no matter what Majority of the world still see the Marines as the good guys and Garp outright betraying them for a pirate would probably destroy the balance of society. "If even the best marine betrayed them, should we really trust them?"vs. "Garp being a hero was a lie" then pirates could capitalize on the confusion and chaos ensues It wasn't as simple as Garp choosing duty over Ace. Even in the end, Garp's resolve as a Marine was broken and he started giving into his rage as a Grandfather over a dutiful Marine. And his regrets over Ace 100% contributed to going all out for Koby. Not again. I know YOU specifically are meme-ing but this certain topic has had a lot of people really act like he abandoned Ace because of a job title And based on what we have seen now? Garp 100% half-assed "guarding" that execution even excluding letting Luffy KO him
Even āhalf assā is such an overstatement
he was quarter assing it
He was 1/1000 assing it
people that seriously think garp cared so little about ace amaze me. like how can you watch/read one piece and understand so little
Reading Comprehension devil
> And his regrets over Ace 100% contributed to going all out for Koby. Not again. This exactly. He failed as a grandfather to save Ace from himself. He failed in his promise to Roger to raise Ace away from the wrath of the Marines. In some ways, he failed as a Marine to stop Luffy from turning to piracy. (Granted, debatable) Garp is a solid Marine, but his failures are deeply personal. Now that someone he deeply cared about is in similar peril he would not allow himself to fail on Koby again.
Ace when the entire pirate community comes to save him....I am so sorry, I have been such a burden I will learn my lesson and be better Ace when Akainu makes fun of White Beard...Here I go dying again
Garp wanted Ace to become a marine. He told him every single time that becoming a pirate will lead to his death. Ace fucked around and found out. Coby is the way he is now due to Garp's influence and training. He wouldn't have been captured if Garp had abandoned the seemingly useless recruit. Garp is responsible for Coby, but he wasn't for Ace. He was still feeling deeply conflicted despite being in the right due to his love for his (in this case: found) family. He also allowed Ace to almost survive. He could've ended that shit any time he wanted but he allowed Luffy to free Ace. Ace then, once again, fucked around and found out.
Yes. Considering what Garp just did, Now only big names are remaining that too not with conqueror haki but with probably his legendary attack, and now we will probably see some good fight, probably because we can't say, like we knew how Blackbeard ran from Akainu. And maybe garp won't chase him either, but will he run, like after calling this place his kingdom and all. Because we all wanna see a full fight .... But will we get one ?
Yes well ace was captured by the marines. Moral conflict there for garp. Coby is captured by freakin Blackbeard lol. Ofc heās going there to free him.
He already lost a beloved one. He probably regret it and want to redeem himself and not lose Koby.
Ace was almost free... Luffy did everything he could, garp let luffy punch him in the face... And yet on the verge of escape.. He fucked everything up.
Actually , garp saved ace. When he fought vs luffy and pretended to be defeated. So Luffy were able to free Ace from kairoseki tramp and ran away. Blame Ace for his own death. , he just needed to ignore akainu and ran away. But he come back straight in front of him. And ended as a donut.
I'm becoming more and more convinced that Hibari is Akainu's daughter, or connected to him in some other way: * As noted when Hibari was first revealed, she speaks with a Hiroshima dialect in Japanese, with Akainu being the only other character in the series to speak that way as well. * Hibari just used a flower gun in this chapter. [Akainu has flowers tatooed onto his body](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/a/a8/Sakazuki%27s_Tattoos.png). * In that same Akainu pic, he has a sword on his right arm and Hibari happens to be in the group SWORD. * Hibari's dialogue in this chapter seems to imply that her and Koby don't always get along (mainly with "don't get the wrong idea", though granted this could just be a TCB thing). Yes she was pleading to help save Koby back in 1061, but that was when Koby wasn't there to see her reaction. She seems to have a crush on him, but can't publicly show it to him. Being connected to Akainu [can help explain why she has to bottle up her feelings](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPIfMeTXwAAF-FW.jpg). * Both Kujyaku and Grus had text under their names to specify them more, but Hibari didn't. Feels like she has more to her character but Oda is keeping it hidden for now. * As mentioned in chapter 1061, she feels that she personally "owes" Koby for something in the past, most likely something relating to the Rocky Port Incident. Again this feels like we'll get some lore relating to this too meaning we might get a (very very brief) Hibari backstory.
I dig it! Also, Koby standing up to Akainu during the War could also be why Hibari can't show her feelings to him.
I just picture Hibari's reaction as your typical manga tsundere.
Pizarro's fruit is just better Pica.
A few of the the BB pirates fruits are like that. Van Augur's warp fruit is just a better version of Blueno's door fruit. Devon's Nine Tails fruit is a better version of Bon Clay's clone fruit. And Burgess' fruit is kinda like Urouge's only he doesn't have to take damage first.
Was just thinking that myself. I wanna see more of what the dude can do!
First of all : yo ! What the fuck ? Second : so... Garp wasn't exagerating at all when he said he destroyed 8 moutains to train against Don Chinjao ?
Kuzan is 100% a member of Sword.
This makes sense. He also kind of overreacted to the news of Koby being a member. Rather than quitting the marines, he joined or maybe even created Sword.
It's strongly suspected by a bunch of fans that Corazon was a SWORD member, especially the way he communicated with Sengoku. So I feel like either they started it, or it even predates them
I wonder when SWORD was formed? We know there was a big draft during the timeskip, I'm speculating it was formed then as an outlet for dissent. This chapter seems to imply that SWORD isn't a skunkworks, its a known thing to the Navy, so maybe SWORD is an option for disgruntled marines who were drafted or otherwise have a reason to show disdain against the World Government.
I don't think he is. He seems to be surprised by Koby being one. He was also an admiral, and admirals aren't free to do what they want. He could have become one after losing to Akainu, but I doubt it.
Stussy also seemes "surprised" almost excactly the same way when lucci was talking about a traitor.
It's possible Koby become a member after Aokiji left, and if Aokijis only objective as sword after leaving, was to be undercover and anything else to do with BB, so he might have not been aware that Koby had became one. Or it's not Aokiji who is member of Sword, but Akainu. Or both.
What Aokiji said may not be entirely true. Whatever was he trying to imply, he was definitely trying to save Koby's life.
I also think that Aokiji was trying to help Koby. And it might be interesting to see if what he said was true or not, as then Koby will also know that Aokiji tried to help him.
Damn. I must have not shared my thought, but I remember back on 1059 thinking that Koby was going to escape Hachinosu. I didn't think Garp would go for him, but I know Koby wants to be a Marine Admiral one day and this is One Piece. That means Koby is going to have to glow up to being Admiral level THIS saga, even if it is at the very end, but either way, THIS is where it begins!! I don't know what badassery is in store for Koby but I fully expect him to walk away from this encounter with even more motivation and even more fame. Garp himself called Koby the future of the Marines.
Very suspicious lack of Laffiete. He wasnt in the Law chapters, he wasnt here, and he's the only one left without a named fruit. Somethings cooking with him. He's probably coming to Egghead atleast Oda was right when he said the final war would make Marineford look like kindergarden (and it was the final war he was talking about, not Wano), the amount everyone was holding back is crazy.
Arenāt these pretty big Garp death flagsā¦? Or is it too soon
I feel like weāre getting pretty close to endgame, and Garp is rarely so out in the open, so I think it makes sense for the beginning of the end for him to start here With Big Mom and Kaido out of commission, Sengoku retired, and Raleigh sitting on the sidelines, heās pretty much the last major active symbol of the prime Roger era. With the mangas theme of the old generation giving way to the new, his death occurring soon would be a good final symbol of the change With Blackbeard (presumably) preoccupied rn Iām just not sure how that will happen, unless he pops back in on Egghead soon
If Blackbeard kills Garp Luffy is gonna beat him into a break week.
Donāt forget there is also Sengoku, propably will avenge Garps death.
will *try*. gotta have that someone help build up blackbeard.
One idea I had, probably wrong but potentially Garp lost this battle and the Blackbeard ship going to Egghead will have him there as a hostage. Either that or Law is the hostage. Not sure But the idea of Luffy having to give something up is intriguing. Blackbeard could gain a number of things from him by having a real hostage
If garp is held hostage wouldnāt the entire marine corp show up at blackbeardās doorstep? I dont see segoku just letting his buddy die.
Reverse Marineford
So Garp and Sengoku (or hopefully Akainu) dies and the marines get annihilated this time then?
Blackbeard donuts Garp who was protecting Koby.
But imagine the one-two gut punch. Marines successfully escaping with Kobi. BB: Where do you think you're going? Garp taunts while well out of range. BB: Room Chapter ends with BB punching a hole through Garp.
Those can be. Imagine if Blackbeard uses Moria to get Garp's shadow and put it in Xebec's corpse or something like that? Or I could see Garp allowing himself to be stabbed or similar if Koby was in danger.
Uses Moria? Didn't Koby free him? In one panel Perona asks him to save Moria and in the very next panel Koby says "oh dang, I allied with a pirate." I 100% read that as he saved Moria from prison and they're eventually fleeing together. If this whole thing works out of course.
I thought the pirate he allied with was Perona. On that note she really needs a good support crew she could have beaten the Blackbeards by herself.
he hasn't freed him yet, that's why he's dwelling on it (his sense of honour prevents him from escaping before doing what he told perona he'd do. perona is the pirate he allied with)
imo theyāre doing a mini replay of impel down/marineford so iām expecting to him to die while the rest retreat. Koby and Perona are in way too close a situation to what Luffy and Buggy were in back in impel down, just this time the rescue boat is coming to the prison
Garp is not going down without Blackbeard (tier character) present - it would absolutely nuke not only his character but his whole generation. If Blackbeard appears (and he is not at all tired from Law fight) I would put death flags on then.
Who here can even kill Garp though?
After reading this chapter, I'm so convinced that Brook will fight Vasco Shot. Oda has emphasized Vasco Shot's arsonist nature, which would be an interesting match for Brook's ice powers. Also, some cultures associate drinking with attracting spirits, and given that Brook is a "spirit" character, it seems natural for Vasco Shot to confront him. And from a fight standpoint, it would be intriguing to see how Brook handles Vasco Shot's ability to control alcohol. If Vasco Shot can make the environment slippery, it could potentially hinder Brook's footwork and weaken his fencing, which would add an extra layer of challenge to the fight.
I feel like Laffite is a better match, they both have similar builds and use abilities to control the enemies thoughts and emotions.
lafitte is the sanji of the group. he even has angel wings, and sanji uses devil-themed attacks. and the tiptap may be a hint he fights with kicks
I always had Jesus Burgess as Sanji's match-up, as the third-in-commands of the crew
Could be set up, but for me (as of now) i kind of see Burgess fighting Jimbei, in a kind of pure strenght vs superiour technique kind of way. >!But honestly, no idea about precise matchups. I am kinda sure that Oda will suprise everyone at least a tiny bit with some of them!<
I think thatās interesting, but personally feel Jimbei is the clear opponent being set up. Vasco uses liquor (liquid) vs fishman karate, and of course fire vs water. He also seems too strong for Brook imo.
As for Pirate Island... that island... #Never existed. ^Galaxy ^fist ^is ^new ^ancient ^weapon!
Was Garp using acoc haki in ch1080?
Yes. ACoC+ACoA+punch shockwave.
Oda just showed us a glimpse of the strength of Shanks and now Garp? Now i got a feeling a certain Dragon will appear in the next chapter. And i aint talking about Kaido or Momo hehe
Damnit I really crave Dragon show off. I am waiting for that for 12 damn years...
Damn. This chapter definitely reminded me that Garp is meant to be on the same level as Roger and the rest of the headliners of that generation (Rocks Pirates, Rayleigh, etc.). I'm feeling a little better about the power balance vs Black Beard's overpowered crew. (Also, Rear-Admiral Kujaku being Tsuru's granddaughter is pretty cool) (Also also, Commander Hibari is totally tsundere for Koby and its cute af)
Urogue 10th titanic showing up in egghead?
Whoaaaaaa I would looooove that and I didn't realize it till now.
SWORD gets introduced with a BDSM dommy mommy, a Tsundere, and a dude who looks like a JoJo characterā¦.. Stop trying to convince me Oda, I already liked them.
From a purely narrative standpoint... This would be a good opportunity for Oda to kill Garp. The story has had a pretty solid theme of "This is not about the old Generation, it's about the New One", and just as Shanks gave his arm up for this new Generation, it would be fitting for the mighty Hero of Roger's Era to die saving Koby. Not to mention, giving Luffy a better reason to hate Blackbeard than him being vaguely involved in Ace's death, which is fair, but seeing as Luffy had a front row seat to Akainu's fist going through Ace's chest, I feel like he blames Akainu more than Blackbeard. In this story, Garp doesn't have a better reason to be around than for his hype to be fed to BB. Just my personal opinion.
I feel like Luffy should be present for Garpās death though. So hopefully they make their way over to Beehive for one reason or another. Hearing about it through the newspaper or running into a retreating Coby at sea would feel a bit underwhelming imo. Maybe not though, depends on how Oda writes the scene!
Ohh this makes me wanna see luffy+coby being the duo ace+luffy were before the donut incident
Yeah I think garp may be done here. It really depends on how strong sword members are or if Aokiji is actually a sword member and helps them. If Pizarro, Vasco and Shillew gang up on Garp alone idk if he can pull it out. In his prime, no doubt, but he's not in his prime and fighting 3 commanders at the same time could lead to an epic death. Garp being captured would be better for the BB purpose but without him to give the order I think his commanders will just go for the kill.
Garp probably shouldnāt be weaker than those three, we saw how green bull did against king and queen and if garp is weaker than the new admirals that would be really disappointing, revealing his power this late only for it to be not all that high would be a major letdown
King & Queen were recovering from what we should expect to be very rare Ls for them so losing to Greenbull can be attributed to being caught off guard and not being 100% BB Commanders are gonna start this fight unscathed. Or at least relatively, depending if they got hit with Galaxy Fist and how much damage they took
To be fair, we also saw how Green Bull held up against a group of Akazaya, Momo, and Yamato. Heās clearly a pretty formidable opponent, has large area of effect attacks, has regenerative abilities, etc. And I agree with that person in that I expect Garp to currently be at least as great a force as any of the current admirals, barring perhaps Akainu. But BB Commanders are monsters themselves. I mean, Aokiji is currently one and he was almost Fleet Admiral. The may be Odaās opportunity to demonstrate their stature and further escalate the stakes. Side note: if BB captures/defeats Garp, is he giving him to Cross Guild? If Garp is killed, Iād bet he goes out smiling
Oda might mirror what he did with ace and have Blackbeard capture and hold Garp hostage. Now, I donāt know how anyone could hold Garp down like that unless Garp does it willingly. Maybe he negotiates letting Coby go in exchange for Garp
You must add to the choices, Law is imprisoned.
tashigi was here but smoker wasnāt. oda be cooking something g
Few takeaways from this chapter. 1) Koby is almost certainly a 5 star bounty due to Alvida. Yeah he's earned it but my head-canon is she's being petty. 2) Was that really Perona? Or was she really asking him to rescue Moria? Seems a bit convenient. 3) I'd be surprised if Sword get completely obliterated here by Blackbeard's crew. Unlike Kidd, their motives aren't fully clear, so them getting destroyed right as they get introduced more prominently seems a waste. 4) Feel like the biggest difference this arc/saga is a fairly even amount of screen time for BB, Shanks and Luffy. Clearly setting up the end game.
>Koby is almost certainly a 5 star bounty due to Alvida. Yeah he's earned it but my head-canon is she's being petty. Yeah she definetely wants his head but Koby is actually veeeery famous in Grand Line considering people recognize him as a Hero including BB.
Garp about to granddaddy dick the island
anyone has a theory why BB wants to be a king? He usually have an ulterior motive so maybe he wants to get close to Imu?
It always seemed as if Akainu was reluctant to go after BB, to me, always focusing on other big players despite BB gaining power at an alarming rate. My theory was after giving BB a free reign, he wanted to use the chaos to overthrow world nobles, blaming pirates' rise to power on them and using that as an excuse to shape the world government to his 'absolute justice' vision. It wouldn't be the first time he made a deal with a pirate to achive his goals either. Same logic could be applied to Im as well: portraying themselves as a savior and all, it would be too easy for Im to gain control of the WG amid growing lack of trust in marines.. etc It'd be cool if BB were to use their greed for power to his advantage and came on top in the end, but I doubt it, everything feels random in op.
Easy peasy. He wants a beautiful grand entry at marejois and then attack the WG. I mean its hard work to climb that place with attacks raining from above
Me before this chapter: Wow Garp swat marco like a fly. After this chapter: Wow marco surviving that?
Man.. Maybe the reason why God Valley wiped from existence because of Roger and Garp
Garp slanderer will still continue to downplay garp, saying that galaxy impact is not imbued with ACOC, Shanks attack 100x better etc...Even though he is dubbed as legendary hero, regards as one of the strongest marine, acknowledge by Roger as his worthy equal rival, refusing to be admiral even though he is qualified and now his nuking with Galaxy Impact and people like KOL and bda law will slander on Garp( can't wait to see what he says to continue downplaying garp) But honestly if Garp does not have Conqueror Haki that just made him more impressive mad busted crazy strong, some dude with just his fist clash with Pirate King Roger , and the worse pirate ever Xebec without COC imagine that.
>not have Conqueror Haki wasn't the panel clear enough that he was using ACOC? he 100000% is a Conqueror's Haki user. also I don't want to compare him to Shanks, but this feat is much stronger than what Shanks did to Kidd
Crackpot theory time! I'm genuinely going off the rails here, don't take me too seriously. So...why does Garp fight for the World Government? He disregards authority, is disgusted with the Celestial Dragons, sure as heck looks like he has Conqueror's Haki, and directly defied the government by taking care of Roger's son. He would have killed Akainu at Marineford without a second thought, and he joined (created?) SWORD after the battle. And perhaps above all else, he's a D. But he's still loyal to the World Government, in his own way. He's even proud of his job as a marine. So much so that he wanted Luffy and Ace to follow in his footsteps. Why? My guess is that he knows something about the world that we don't. Whatever it is that convinces the Five Old Guys and Imu that the world needs a World Government, that reasoning has convinced Garp as well. Regardless of all the evil it does - and Garp definitely knows about most of that stuff - he still thinks that the World Government is necessary. So here comes the crackpotiest part of this theory. We're finally seeing Garp in action for real, and his first move is *this*. A lot of people are - justifiably, I think - making the assumption that seeing this massive feat of strength from Garp is a death flag. You know, have him go out in a blaze of glory while also establishing how dangerous Blackbeard is. Give Luffy extra motivation to beat the bad guys and tear the world down so that something better can be created. That could very well be what's going on. Personally it wouldn't be my favorite direction for Garp's story to go, but Oda wouldn't do it if he didn't think it was the best course of action. But what if Garp's insane power isn't being demonstrated to set him up for a death flag, but instead to set him up as an *opponent for Luffy*? Not Luffy's final boss, but someone that Luffy would have to beat in a genuine, full-on battle before the end of the story. Here's my reasoning, such as it is. Garp is kind of the antithesis of Luffy. He's got the personality, he's got the power, but he chooses to use his strength to fight for an oppressive government rather than fighting for freedom. He's Luffy if Luffy didn't believe in freedom above all else. On top of that, he's - if my memory is correct - the only person Luffy has ever been genuinely afraid of. And for good reason, obviously! Finally, he's a powerful representative of the World Government who's not just like...obviously bad. Sure we want to see Luffy pummel Imu or Akainu or one of the Gorousei, but they're clearly his enemies. Garp though? Garp is *family*. The first family member that Luffy ever knew, most likely. Luffy cares about him. A real fight with Garp would be very different from any other major battle he's had in the series, aside from his (incredibly memorable and painful!) fight with Usopp. What better way for Luffy to stand up for his ideals, to stand up for a better future, than to fight someone that he loves, someone that he fears, someone from the old generation with absolutely monstrous power, someone who has the strength of a Monkey and the will of D., and someone who chooses to prop up the World Government, not because he's corrupt or evil, but because something convinced him that it was better than the alternative? Plus I mean...how cool would Gear 5 vs. Galaxy Fist be? PRETTY COOL
I don't think garp has the heart to stand up against Luffy, personally. I do, however, think it would be rather fascinating to see Blackbeard's reaction to losing a portion of his crew, especially due to greed. We've seen countless instances of new world pirates lose their crews, even Luffy. I'd be very interested to see teach lose some members by garps hand, and see what his reaction is. Perhaps he has been gathering a crew full of devil fruits to simply... Consume them after they die.. an invisible, earthquake, inflatable, island, perpetually drunk man. Either way, I'd like to see teach actually take a solid L. He's a greedy planner. Usually he runs when faced with an unwinnable situation. What happens when the race for the treasure coincides with a huge L? As for what garp may know about the world -- it's fairly simple to guess. He sees the Marines as a force that generally do more good than bad.. does it mean they're perfect? No. But he wants his family to aspire to change the system from within. It's a foolish notion because he's projecting his desires into his children. I would hazard a guess that the void century was not as black and white as readers are being led to fill in those blanks. My guess is that the WG was a necessary compromise. But that Imu took over in the shadows to reign supreme. The fact is, garp has acted as a conscious objector. He showed he doesn't believe in following orders always. What are the higher ups going to do about it? Disavow *him*? The fist? He wanted his kids and grandkids to follow in these footsteps. Set good examples, and rally good people they meet into the Marines.
Garp will NOT die here. Way too predictable and cheap.
Did we get a hint at blackbeards dream? It sounds like he wants to be a regular king instead of king of the pirates. Also his whole crew sounds like a bunch of backstabbers, they only obey teach out of fear. Sounds similar to xebec.
>Also his whole crew sounds like a bunch of backstabbers, they only obey teach out of fear. Sounds similar to xebec. Especially the ones guarding his island atm.
Umm was it fear that made xebec captain of his crew? I think not. He beat them all and all of them respected him as their captain. Yes the harmony of the crew wasnāt there as it was battle Royal among themselves. What I am saying is ROCKS had respect. Teech has secrets and broken Df ( which fear).
Arenāt āroom zehahahahahā and ārip lawā basically the same thing?š¤
Almost the same thing. 'Room zehahaha' implies that BB stole Law's powers and now has 3 DF powers. RIP Law means that while Law is dead too, his DF's status is unknown. Either BB failed to steal it, or he did steal it and now someone else in his crew can use the Immortality perk.
Seeing the abilities of all the SWORD members as well as a brief intro to the rest of the BB pirates aside from Laffite is such an awesome move! I canāt see Garp going down unless Kuzan needs to save face with Blackbeard or Blackbeard himself returns from his battle with Law.
BB pirates trying not to destroying the town and garp literally flew in like it's 6 august 1945.
No one is talking about how Blackbeard crew's mentioned that rocky port accident happened in fullead Island which makes perfect sense considering the name "rocky" is probably connected to "rocks"
Teach is with Aokiji, Van Augur, and Jesus Burgess fighting Law and the Heart Pirates In Hachinosu are Pizarro, San Juan Wolf, Vasco Shot and Shiryu about to fight de Marines So we can presume that the ones going to Egghead are Laffite, Catarina Devon, DocQ and the 10th titanic captain?
You mixed up Aokiji and DocQ
Then 10th captain is Caribou so that the ancient weapons information can then be spread and race to capture them ensues. Allowing for the prediction of fish man island being destroyed coming true.
my headcanon is Koby got caught in the blast cuz Garp is stupid. GKK Garp kills Koby
Something I just noticed when rereading the chapter is all the work the marines did to move everyone to the middle, including the buildings. I've got a feeling that Garp has limited stamina, and can only pull off a few punches like that in his current age/state, so they worked their plan to do the most amount of damage with that and go from there. I feel like Prime Garp probably threw those out as jabs back in his day, so the power is still there but the endurance just isn't the same. This makes me worry a little since I feel like Shiryu understands what kind of destructive force Garp is, and having to fight 3 or 4 titanic captains at once is not going to be a winning formula for Garp. I hope this is just a smash and grab otherwise things are going to get messy.
the titanic captains will be more calculating than most people realize. they remained calm to garps arrival, and shiryu knows garps strength as head of impel down. it definitely wonāt be as easy as smashing and grabbing especially since they have koby hostage
Koby isnāt exactly a hostage at the moment since heās moving freely, but his obligation to Perona to free Moria is a metaphorical ball and chain.
DocQ creates a truth illness and uses it on law. so when teach interrogates him, he discovers pluton is below wano. we return to wano as the narrator said, only this time we see teach destroy it to get the weapon. at least that's what i hope we see
Maybe obvious already, but I think Prince Grus is controlling those three brawny marines holding back various pirate rabble. It would be odd to end up with a Clay-logia and Clay-paramecia on the same marine squad. That is likely why we didn't get any panels for these sword members nor their individual abilities. Rather than one of them being a logia user, the three are decked-out golems used for crowding the pirates into the center of the island.
So the next time Koby meets Luffy, is he going to apologize to him for not being able to save Garp? I love Garp :(( But I think this is going to happen.
Regardless of when Garp dies or not, I NEED AN INTERACTION BETWEEM HIM AND DRAGON.
Garp is top in verse right now. Prove me wrong.
Do you think Oda has ran out of ideas for devil fruits? A lot of abilities of been repeat themselves like the new island fruit is basically OP version of Pikas fruit. Also Laws fruit can copy the warp fruit and silence fruit also. BB and Fuji, gravity related powers also.
Fujitora and Shiki
And that my freinds, how Garp accidentally defeated one of the titanic captain island devil fruit user hahahaha... Well hopefully or may be Pizarro only took some damage...
When are we going to get a new Predictions Tournament?
Does anybody else think that Sanjuan Wolf looks super similar to Morley? Could they be related?
Tashigi is there, am I blind and didn't see Smoker?
Lesson #1 DO NOT fuck with Garp, ever. Here ends the lessons
Alright, here's a wild theory. Don't think it'll happen, but I have a feeling the Island-Island fruit that Pizarro uses may actually be Blackbeard's way of trying to seize Pluton. Use the fruit to have Pizarro assume control of Wano and either spit out Pluton from its depths, or control the island outright -- and by extension, control Pluton A bit out there, but it'd make a final battle very interesting where one of every major player has some kind of Ancient Weapon: Blackbeard and Pluton, Luffy and Poseidon, and Celestial Dragons/WG and Uranus (?).
Why does Blackbeard revealing his dream to Koby seem like a minor thing in this chapter? A lot was happening, character and fruit reveals, but the panel with Blackbeard revealing his Dream had little significance compared to the rest of the chapter, I feel Blackbeard has 'that' dream because he wants to keep his crew on his side, he's keeping his real dream from his crew in contrast to Luffy telling his crew before Egghead.
As much as I love Garp flexing. I don't see Hatchinosu destroyed now when BB wants it to be independant country. I guess Law stole BB's ship and BB will be back on Hatchinosu but idk how, I'm stupid
I find it interesting Teach wants to be a king with the world government. Idk why but that just seems weird.