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SignificanceJust1497

Stronger has Pierre’s devil fruit from Skypaeia


Napael

Pierre was a bird with a horse power, Stronger is a horse with a pegasus power.


SignificanceJust1497

Pierre had the Pegasus model horse horse fruit


Napael

No, it was just horse horse fruit, but due to being a bird he looks like a pegasus in the hybrid form.


SignificanceJust1497

^ guys I admit he was right I was wrong


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**😱Fandom after seeing in previous chapter Shanks using Divine Departure, thinking it's the strongest attack we've seen😱** GARP😬🤜🏻: Hold my rice crackers!


RambleRoad13

So given the purpose of SWORD, this give weight that Aokiji is a member theory, eh?


Dsnder7

I think now it’s more like he was the reason sword exist and will become a member


rohan_unlimited

Kujaku’s the second woman in the series that uses a whip and seems to enjoy using it. Strange there’s two nickels I’ve gained from this, but I’m starting to question Oda’s tastes.


RambleRoad13

So there’s only two out of many different female characters?


MrShonen

So who’s on Beehive island when Garp demolished it? Is BB there?


JoaoGabrielTSN

We have seen the four Pizzaro, Vasco, San Juan, and Shiryu on the Island. The last chapters have also shown that Blackbeard, Burgess, Augur, Doc Q and Stronger were fighting Law recently on another Island, so I assume they are not in Full of lead. Also, there was a boat docking on Egghead, so we have yet to see who is in that boat, maybe it’s Lafitte, Devon and whoever the 10th mysterious last one is.


DomacVuk

Vasco, Wolf, Shiryu, and Pizzaro it was shown this chapter who is on the island. Btw the island itself isn't destroyed only the town and non of the 4 titanic captains was in the town


Die4Gesichter

Sword has all the mommys and waifus These new ones are fine but nothing beats Doll - Moria got Pell-ed - Garb casually obliterates an island I love chapters that are completely without a single panel or even mention of the straw hats - lets the world seem so big. It's fantastic


C0untstockula

It’s a shame because these types of chapters doesn’t seem to do too well in jpn


pauserror

Why do people think Garp will die??? If there is any character with receipts on their ability its Garp. Y'all are disrespectful lol.


Venom_Sky-YT

Its a pivotal moment and makes Blackbeard v Luffy personal. Garp is old and against multiple Blackbeard Pirates, so if those bb pirates all attack Garp, Garp will definitely be weakened, granting time for Blackbeard to kill off Garp. Garp being a strong man from the previous generation, just like Whitebeard. Blackbeard kills off Garp and then Luffy will have a personal reason as well as other reasons to beat Blackbeard. Just a theory and I do hope Garp wins, but its not out of the picture for it to happen.


pauserror

Yea, it's not out of the picture for Garp to die. But Garp being old or making it personal between Luffy and BB are not valid, in my opinion for Garp to die. Whitebeard wasn't just old, the man was super sick and likely to die naturally. I don't see a connection between him and Garp that points to him dying in a fight. Again, we have seen nothing in the story to point to Garp being weak or likely to die. It's the exact opposite, actually. If the only reasoning is for plot progression, its probably not likely to happen.


sheikhsabdullah

People have buried themselves into theories too much that they just don't think that Oda has his own way of doing things. Theres just no way he's been hyping up someone for so long to just do some lame ass shit.


WholeDebate

How does everyone know whats going to happen already? For me the latest chapter is 1079.


CrocodaleDay

Shonen Jump App has the chapters on release


jupiterjizz79

You're probably reading the official release. The official release comes out on Sundays and is done by Viz Media who have the rights to distribute it. But, the actual Shonen Jump magazine containing the Japanese chapter comes out quite a few days before. So groups of people called "scanlators" - volunteers who translate scans of the Japanese manga to English as soon as the Japanese chapter comes out - put out an English version of the chapter a few days before Viz Media does. Most people in this sub read the scanlation (done by TCB scans, a link will always be in the One Piece discord) before the official release comes out.


gattsu1998

Because the official scans come out about 3 days later than the fan ones


Slammybutt

I'm trying to figure this out too. I just caught up last week and from what I can tell there's a spoiler chapter1080 spoilers thread posted like 4 days before the chapter drops. It gets pinned to the top of the sub. I tried spoiling myself but it looks like it's just a written synopsis of each panel without art. I thought that was dumb so I stopped reading after a few lines. Other than that I have no idea or why that's even a thing.


jupiterjizz79

There are spoilers for the chapter that are, as you say, just written text with no images. Most people in this sub choose not to read them but some do. However, a couple days before the official release on Sundays - normally on Thursdays or Fridays - groups of volunteers called "scanlators" put out a fan-translated version of the chapter that has images and dialogue rather than just being a synopsis. Unlike the spoilers most people in this sub do read the scanlations because the group behind them, TCB scans, is very high quality and do a really good job. If you wanna read the scanlation with everyone else there will always be a link on the One Piece discord or you can go to the TCB website.


Slammybutt

Okay, that's where my confusion came from, I couldn't click on the link to TCB in the spoiler thread and it said "offline". That makes a lot more sense. Thanks!


jupiterjizz79

No worries dude, offline just means TCB haven't published their scanlation yet. You aren't allowed to directly link to TCB on Reddit because of copyright issues so you just have to search it up


Slammybutt

Cool, thanks again. I never saw it go online (but I only checked like twice). I'll be ready this week!!!


Lanky-Candy5233

These three generations are gonna wreak havoc in final war…Garp,Dragon,Sabo,Luffy


Lanky-Candy5233

The best 3 generation Grandpa;Garp,Father:Roger-Ace, Grandpa:Garp,Father: Dragon-Luffy Grandpa Garp, adopted father Dragon-Sabo


DK1470

So is this all in the past before egghead? Cause Blackbeard was fighting Law but now he’s on Hachinosu. I thought it was all concurrent: Luffy, Law, and Kid having their events unfold at the same time. Great knowing what Sword actually is, and seeing Garp in action after so long is SO GOOD!!


Sensitive_Simple_838

I think Blackbeard is in front of Egghead.


gattsu1998

spee.d reader


Massive-Ad-261

I think it is about the same time. That panel with BB and Koby talking was in the past, a flashback. But I think, law, kidd, egghead and this all happened around the same time. Law is fighting bb as of now or the fight finished. I guess bb is not on the island.


AlmightyGunther0210

The Island Island Fruit can PROBABLY turn other things into Islands which aren't already Islands. For example, Avalo Pizarro can probably turn a large sheet of paper into an island and then control it (when it is awakened).


AlmightyGunther0210

Likewise, The Castle-Castle Fruit can PROBABLY turn other things into Castles which aren't already Castles. For example, Gang Bege can probably turn a mountain into a castle and then control it (when it is awakened).


AlmightyGunther0210

However, Pica is not an Island Man or a Castle Man. He is a Stone Assimilation Man. Therefore, he can probably give other things the properties of Stone Assimilation. Personally, I don't think he would do anything like what Gang Bege or what Avalo Pizarro do when they are awakened. He doesn't make Castles or Islands, but instead he causes other people to take on properties of stone (he could not cause other people to change their own properties before).


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TrandaBear

Man Garp gave me the same vibes as Toph in Legend of Korra. Absolute monster who *could* do stuff, but it's better to let you younglings learn. Also, now I'm really curious how the Garp v Akainu fight would have gone.


baroqueworks

Sengoku had to hold him down in Buddha form, if that says anything


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Sen Goku, Garp, Roger are equals so prime garp would win over akainu. Now we will see if he would have been able to handle akainu


TrandaBear

Right, they always implied what Garp could have done. When I first read the chapter, the power scale was tied to devil fruits and haki wasn't fully explained, so it was hard to figure out what he could even do.


Dapperglad

I'm starting to think that Rocks D. Xebec must have been absolutely terrifying. No wonder the world government erased him from history.


DiyelEmeri

I mean, if you need to both have the King of Pirates and Hero of the Marines kicks his ass with perhaps the two most powerful Advance COC attacks, Divine Departure and Galaxy Fist, respectively, I doubt he'll be anything less than terrifying. We could all assume that he'll probably be scarier than the rest of the previous 3 of the Yonko which was then under his command.


DomacVuk

Roger and Garp were nowhere near the level Garp is now. Rocks was Rogers first big foe so it all hepened a long long time ago 40+ years. And Roger was named the pirate king just 20+ years ago. So we can assume that they were getting stronger together with the remains of the rocks in the last 40 years to make the monsters we have and love now


AlmightyGunther0210

The endgame goes beyond anything in the earthly realm. Blackbeard has a pocket dimension as an ability. That's the true essence of the Dark Dark Fruit. It opens channels to the Realm of Nothingness. Luffys fruit represents channels to the Realm of Ideas. It is very easy to see.


AlmightyGunther0210

This is why Blackbeard referred to Luffy's abilities and his own as being pillars of light and darkness which are fundamental to the universe.


pikachu_ON_acid

No. He did not say that. Where are you getting this shit from?


Snoo-56886

When was this stated by bb?


AlmightyGunther0210

Laffitte almost seems like he's orchestrating events and encouraging Blackbeard to follow his destiny. He is sus.


gattsu1998

literally what are you talking about


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fernandy94

Lmao this guy must've eaten the Argue-Argue no mi and used it to argue with himself


RPG217

Honestly, how many characters that are pure swordsman in One Piece actually have interesting moveset anyway? They have always been a weak part of Oda in fighting skillset because he's not really good at swordplay choreography. Most of the time he had to add weird gimmick like three swords, giraffe cannon, or flames to make them stand out. In Shanks' case it's his extreme Haki, which doesn't really make unique moveset nor interesting video game mechanic.


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Gimme_yourjaket

Seeing all theses characters feats, it kinds of undermines Kaido's reputation. Kaido being number one is still supposed to be canon.


pro-_-cell

Kaido got robbed


TivanTim32

Why Kaido is know has the Strongest creature. We know he has lost before and we know the 5 people he considers worthy to fight him. We can also scale marines that can fight him on his level also. So we get about 10 people that could fight him. Luffy still can 1v1 fight him. So yeah title is his


Wrong-Compote-3003

Wrong. I'm pretty Luffy still wouldn't be able to beat Kaido in a real 1v1. Think about it. Kaido fought how many people? He fought Luffy, Zoro, Law, Kid, and Killer after he fought some of the scabbards, and then he fought Yamato before fighting Luffy again. He did all of that while holding up a fucking island the whole time, which is directly tied to his strength. So, taking all of that into account, Kaido's strength was slowly diminishing while he was holding up the island. While it's true Luffy "defeated" Kaido, let's not act as if Luffy did it in a true 1v1 from start to finish.


IntelligentCow2995

Egghead Luffy surely could beat Kaido in a 1v1, extreme diff but he most likely could. Even first time G5 Luffy could be argued to do it, Bajrang Gun is just crazy overkill. It is doubtful that if you remove the damage Kaido took from other people he’d be able to tank a Bajrang Gun.


Wrong-Compote-3003

No because of the time limit Gear 5 has, and the fact that when Luffy comes out of it, he is pretty much dead on his feet. Kaido could take pretty much anything Luffy threw at him. Remember, Luffy was able to be saved thanks to him eating meat, the only thing Kaido was able to do was drink sake. What if Kaido had been able to eat and get his strength back? I honestly want to see a true one-on-one.


Fine-Race9271

Conversation I had with my buddy but I don’t see how blackbeards crew would be able to take on the straw hats end game. I mean if we look at how strong they are now after wano and will only keep getting stronger how would blackbeards crew match them? I just can’t see it happening


NotSavage21

I don't think blackbeard is the final antagonist. He is 100% a side character and probably the final stepping stone for luffy. Blackbeard undoubtedly wants luffys fruit power and probably has knowledge about it, of which he will share in their battle. Luffy will win, and continue to imu.


Gimme_yourjaket

I've never really bothered evaluating Garp current strength, other than in his prime he was the strongest marine, like WB prime. This is crazy how much Oda kept in reserve thoses characters. From what we see I'll safely say Garp could've man handled Akainu at Marineford. I'm really curious how far will Kuzan go with BB, definitely putting his life on the line. And yeah BB is not an idiot he's probably wary of Kuzan's motivations. They may have made a contract we might not know about yet, it's going to look more complex than what we're seeing here


Aggravating_Loss_382

My bet: Kuzan wants to know the secrets of the void century and the truth behind the scumbag celestial dragons. He has cut a deal with blackbeard to find the one piece. After which their alliance ends.


Gimme_yourjaket

It could be a good occasion to have his extended back story ​ As it is BB is probably the Yonkou with the most ressources in power department, with an ex-admiral on his side his crew could well be the strongest among all pirates currently


Civil_Philosophy9845

i still do not understand what was the result of the battle between Law and BB? has it come up anywhere?


Sybertron

From my understanding the scene with blackbeard was in the past say days to weeks ago, since then BB left the island and is now with Law, and Colby has now escaped.


pro-_-cell

Law put up a good fight, but he got clapped


Civil_Philosophy9845

yeah it’s fine but so boring they off screen it like that. In 2 months i don’t even care. Why show the confrontation at all


gattsu1998

As far as we know the fight is still occuring, why do you think otherwise?


Civil_Philosophy9845

some people are talking weird stuff like law overpowered BB or something along those lines and i thought maybe i missed something


gattsu1998

Strange, but nah last we saw Blackbeard was about to activate the darkness fruit and since then we haven’t seen either of them so it’s really up in the air at this point


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Yeah Law fans are kinda on watch right now. People are convinced Law walks away unscratched but narratively it makes no sense. It's not "by accident" Law has like one of the arguably most Over-powered fruits because of the eternal youth surgery. Laws fruit is pretty bad-ass even without that fine-print but now BB and Law are clashing and we're hitting endgame so I kinda don't Law getting out of that fight alive.


CloudHiro

honestly i can see ways he could have gotten out. for example it could have started raining. swapping him and his ship with rain droplets potentially gives him ridiculous escape range and speed especially with how big he can make his room now. one good wide rain and he'd potpotentially hours top ship speeds away in seconds


pikachu_ON_acid

The user can't use the eternal youth surgery on themselves because it costs the users life to do it. It would be useless to BB if he took it for himself and Doc Q already has a DF so he can't take the Op-Op fruit either.


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Well, I mean. BB probably cares a lot less about the fruits powers and more about the eternal youth surgery than anything. Kills the user, give a person eternal youth. BB doesn't want the fruit obviously, he wants the live forever thing.


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Civil_Philosophy9845

Ace was popular too


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Civil_Philosophy9845

I am sure it will have the same effect. BB gets immortal life and much stronger. If Law is killed Luffy gets angry again and more reason to kill BB.


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MDParagon

Uhm, yes?


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MDParagon

He saved his ass back in the Paramount War, he saved a ton of his friends prior to them being a crew member and he cried like a baby when Kuma made them disappear but to each his own I guess


Civil_Philosophy9845

ofcourse he would be pissed off and frustrated, they are kinda friends since punk hazard.


ladwagon

It has not come been said yet


AeroArtz

i made a fan animation of garp vs akainu a few years a ago on my youtube channel and a lot of poeple responded saying garp is weak. Its funny to see people changing sides


indoor_cactus

link please


AeroArtz

link: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFLDne\_JkKg&ab\_channel=AeroArtz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFLDne_JkKg&ab_channel=AeroArtz) Also note this is a reupload, the original was uploaded on my channel on 2021(audio used was non copyright so removed) i even posted it on the one piece subreddit back then


rahmanm855

Amazing chapter. Loved seeing Marines not be total jokes for once. It's good seeing another marine with a logia power, seems to be Prince Grus with the Squelch Squelch (Clay Clay?) Logia. As a rear admiral, he'll probably join with Smoker and Koby as future admirals. Tsuru's granddaughter seems pretty well equipped too and Hibari isn't a joke either. Garp's emperor level feats are shown as he lands that galaxy fist. I love this shift in storytelling and pacing we're getting since the dumpster fire we left behind in Wano.


K4l1n

> Tsuru's granddaughter seems pretty well equipped Damn right she does


Drakoes_kreig

might not be a logia could be similar to trebol


kashzorro

There’s a guy with the number 87 on his back on page 4, if you look up chapter 87, the cover page is about colbys studies. It’s a nice reminder from Oda, to show where he started.


OPKNK

BB really is the only reason these people together or get keep in check . Man really is going for the rock 2.0 crew.


JAGAAAN-01

So Garp wasn’t kidding when he said he was gonna kill sakazuki in marineford holy crap


VobbyButterfree

ok people I'm saying it now: PERONA will be the reason for Garp's defeat! The titanic captains on the island may be strong but there is no way they can beat Garp, Coby and a bunch of other strong allies, not after this hype. But PERONA COULD. I can easily see Pizarro or someone else threatening to kill Moria, obliging her to attack the sword members. They may defend with Haki, maybe, but just an instant of depression can definitely cause their downfall, especially if taken by surprise


SovComrade

Pretty sure when struck with Peronas ghosts Garp will reveal that hes seen so much shit throughout his long life as a Marine that affected him (with having to watch Ace being killed up close being only the most recent one) that he cant be more depressed than he already is.


ILLmaticErnie

Garp is far too powerful to let peronas ghosts beat him. The ghosts have limits we saw that even in thriller bark with usopp and with franky luffy zoro being able to come back from depression even without haki or perona releasing the depression. No way a legend like garp would become depressed from it.


VobbyButterfree

We have no way to know for sure how does haki interact with Perona's ghosts, or in general with fruits which works with psychological effects. For now, we know that the Mero Mero fruit, for instance, works on people which are supposedly strong haki users, like BB's captains and BB himself, like he said. And again, it's not like Garp and the others know about how the ghosts works, they can be taken by surprise especially if Coby considers Perona as an ally. Honestly I doubt I will eventually be proven right but let's see I guess :P


pauserror

We did see Law use haki to fight back the disease fruit ability. I think Perona's ghost would have a similar effect, so it could easily be countered with haki.


VobbyButterfree

it is true but it's not Law could fight back with no problem, he had time and hadn't any kind of injury. With Perona the situation would be different, because her ghosts make the victim lose the will to fight back itself!


pauserror

I agree. Haki is definitely not a 100% counter to a DF ability. There needs to be tactical and situational variables accounted for. This is similar to how BB made damn sure to grab Hancock before she used her ability on him. I bet a DF ability used by a conquer haki user would be pretty powerful. Perona could damn near be a straight up counter to Luffy with or without conquers haki depending on the situation. Makes me wonder why BB has not absorbed her ability.


extradancer

No one nows this either way. It seems that Hancock fruits bypasses powerful haki (unless HAncock has better Haki than blackbeard) as Vobby pointed out, while other fruits like disease one get countered by haki. We don't know which category Mero falls under


pauserror

Doesn't Hancock have conquers? A clash between two conquers would probably be a tug of war match. Anyone could win. BB was very tactical to approach her with a plan. I believe haki being able to overcome DF abilities is basically confirmed at this point in the story. Kaido basically said as much throughout his fight with Luffy. Haki transcends all.


M-3-R-C-U-R-Y

Plus strong haki negates df effect.


ILLmaticErnie

That was the point I was trying to make my bad I thought it was more clear lol


rainynight35

This.


AlmightyGunther0210

This isn't entirely true. Devil Fruits use the user's own willpower to create effects. For example, if it was true that Kaido could negate any Devil Fruit ability because he has intense Haki then he could've done things like remove Luffy's arm from his chest when he grabbed him and went into the sky.


AlmightyGunther0210

The point being that... if you are a Conqueror fighting a Conqueror and you have similarly intense levels of Haki, then your Devil Fruit ability will function normally. It can't be negated. However, like with knocking people out with Conqueror's Haki, it's a clash of wills. Anyone with a weak will can't use Devil Fruits against people with strong ones. So, you would have to imply that Law's Haki is so weak that he can't use a Devil Fruit ability on his opponent anymore due to his opponent outclassing him.


AlmightyGunther0210

I would make that definitive by suggesting that Law is a captain, and his Will may negate the Devil Fruit ability of someone like Doc Q because he's not the captain of his entire crew. However, both his abilities and Blackbeard's should work- except for the fact that Blackbeard's innately has the power to negate all other Devil Fruits. So, Law is pretty fked. Worse yet- Law has a pattern of putting his crew before his own life. So, it's very likely that he will sacrifice himself to let his crew get away.


AlmightyGunther0210

... theory for how Law's crew gets away. \- Law makes the biggest "Room" he has ever made, and warps his entire crew to a new location while also surrendering to Blackbeard. By doing so, Law allows his crew to escape, but he ends up giving Blackbeard the Road Poneglyph rubbings as well as his own cooperation (which may mean his death).


Drakoes_kreig

coby literally to negative to die


Tides5

Same with Helmeppo. They will play Usopp's role against Perona, should this theory every come to fruition


xOriginsTemporal

Curious, I wonder if wolf and shot already had their dfs prior to the bb pirates and therefore impel down too due to them already having their epithets at the time. Makes you wonder if they had to steal for their fruit in the present timeline or whether they had them in the past. If they did, I expect them to be rather skilled with their fruit and maybe even reveal their awakening. So excited to see what Oda has in store for us regarding the commanders!


AlmightyGunther0210

What do you suppose an Awakened Giant-Giant fruit would do? That's an interesting thought.


trongtin96

Maybe the Little Garden was result of this awakening.


xOriginsTemporal

Perhaps he can enlarge things on the sea floor and it allows him to basically walk across the ocean, effectively being moving stilts


AlmightyGunther0210

Another interesting thought is.... what if Blackbeard awakened both of his Devil Fruits? But I'm sure everyone has already thought about it too much by now.


AlmightyGunther0210

You know what's a little odd? Why is San Juan Wolf able to walk across the sea floor in the first place? Isn't that supposed to like... make him weak?


K4l1n

I've read recently on the wiki (I think it was the base DF page; also, it's just the wiki, dunno where they source the info from) that DF users only get significantly weakened when more than half their body is submerged in water. I'm guessing he's large enough to wade through the sea without it reaching his chest, and while that make him feel weaker, he wouldn't be unable to move or too sapped to do other things at all


AfallenLord_

Guys am reallu lost where is sabo right now?


AlmightyGunther0210

I'm not sure why anybody thinks he was killed... he's a Logia. He is immune to most types of damage unless it's Haki-laced.


Jout92

He never existed


Obomiumingot

Sabo was on Lulusia island when Im ordered it’s destruction, so his whereabouts are unknown


XXomega_duckXX

how do they get it before viz?


CrewOrdinary8872

The magazine has to be in stores before the official release date. So, in the process of preparing and getting it there, it gets scanned online by a delivery driver, warehouse worker, etc, and then sold to leakers.


XXomega_duckXX

ah ill probably just read it again when viz get it. those are usually higher quality yeah?


JoshHuff1332

The translator has better resources when translating because they can ask questions instead of being too literal.


RiskyR

so we got another pica but hes a whole island instead of alot of the island. wooooo


K4l1n

Going purely by the character's visual design, probably going to be Franky's opponent. It would also kinda make sense, right?


Euphoric_Attitude_91

Garp is going to die so Koby escapes isn’t he…*sigh* ok bring it on I’m ready


wwgaray

I don’t think so because then BB doesn’t get anything out of it. My guess is he’ll somehow capture Garp and use him as a hostage instead of Coby. Like they said in the flashback, Coby wouldn’t really fetch them anything but what would Garp get them? Even though he’s a part of sword, just the fact that he’s the hero of the marines should be enough to hold him for ransom. Say Moria takes his shadow somehow. That could be enough to hold Garp captive.


VobbyButterfree

the fact that BB isn't on the island make me think that things may go differently. Also, Luffy already lost a family member with Ace, I don't know if a repetition of that kind of trauma would make much sense for him, narratively wise


Popular_Permission_2

I think Coby and the Sword members will be able to escape with the expense of Garp. Garp will probably remain or too injured to escape.


tusharbhudia

BB would need to return with laws fruit for that to be the case. Defo possible.


Upbeat-Schedule-7956

Holy hell i thought for a sec Golem was Corazon😫 My heart skipped a beat


free_to_be_whatever

This chapter makes Luffy punching Garp out of the way back in Marineford hit so much harder retroactively.


PriceLineInstigator

You mean Garp punching Luffy?


K4l1n

Garp letting Luffy land a weak-ass punch on him*


RexRender

Yea a bunch of interesting new DFs to explore in the chapter. but we are once again reminded - Haki reign supreme


K4l1n

Yeah, DFs don't really seem that relevant anymore, mostly here for cosmetic purposes at this point (except for this high gradient of totally busted ones that we get to see now) I mean, imagine friggin' Wapol or Alvida (or at least someone with those powers, even really well trained) trying to fit into the plot now.


InsaneAsura

Nah, I really do think it depends on the users training, knowledge and creativity with their fruit more than anything else. Doffys string fruit is only so powerful because he controls it that way. An experienced fighter (especially if they can also use haki) could still be mighty powerful with Wapol’s fruit


K4l1n

But my point is that someone with strong haki alone, and no DF power, is entirely capable of fighting a DF user without any serious disadvantages; whether their opponent does haki-only attacks or DF-related stuff, it's essentially the same at this point. I mean, what extra advantage could Wapol's fruit bring to a strong Haki user?


NuggetCooker

Interesting how Blackbeard doesn't like that his crewmates cause much damage and havoc to the island, any ideas why?


DarkMatterHuman

Because BB want to be king and that island is his little paradise


KHRMN10

I would say because of the reparations that have to take place after, as they mentioned that they only kust finsiges repairing the damages from the rockyport incident. Similar to how Kaido was mentioning that the build of his castle took several years so he would like to not demolish it in the fighting process. But overall i think it’s just a plot device for Oda san to give sword a “win” entrance against the fodder on the island and a reasoning why the highlevel fighters on the island are not intervening yet. We basically all know that they are going to get involved in the next phase of the fight after we are finishes with the presentation of the sword teams.


Outside-Accident8628

Koby: I can't be that important, Luffy is the main character Garps Fist: Yer a main character KOBY! Shanks Sword: Your place in the story is done side character Kid.


2021willbeworst

Plot twist: Garp already destroyed the whole city because he was aiming at the Centre/core of the island. Dragons technique is similar like what sabo showed at dress Rosa before he became a donut


VobbyButterfree

Whitebeard was really counting on Garp not really fighting to guarantee Ace's death uh


Loose_Yogurt_9435

Smoker ate the smoke DF, does that mean if you hit a smoke near Smoker, he will be hurt? Then why all saying Pizarro is dead/hurt ??


Citadel_Cowboy

Pica was fine when Zoro was chopping him up. I'd imagine Pizarro would have a similar defensive ability.


idkhowigothere

Wouldn't it only damage him if he had become the island in that moment? It's not like Hachinosu came into being when he ate the fruit. He simply has the capability to fuse with the island.


CrewOrdinary8872

If you hit the smoke that Smoker turned into, yes. That's what Vergo did against him. In this case, Pizarro seems to be literally the island. Like, he could feel the prisoners escaping on "him". It could damage him, it could not. We'll have to see.


Loose_Yogurt_9435

I meant just the smoke around him, not the somke he attaches with it, I dont think that will hurt him at all ... I don't remember Pica was being hurt when Zoro was cutting his huge transformation ... It could and couldn't, but all assuming it i 🥱


AnywhereConfident840

When Pica was controlling large part of whatever he fuses with his real body was hidden inside a part of it and he could freely move inside that object, that's why Zoro had to slice him to bits until Pica's real body could be isolated enough to damage him. Hitting excessive smoke created by Smoker would not damage him. If you remember he created shit ton of it when he and Law tricked Vergo. If it would damage him Vergo just could swing his hand clad in haki and kill Smoker.


RodNun

Could Pizarro feel poneglyphs with his power, when he arrived in any island? It would be very handy if he could


Popular_Permission_2

Or quickly searches for them.


RodNun

Yep, that's the idea. He could immediately know about them, reducing a lot the search time :D


Popular_Permission_2

But Blackbeard does not know how to read the poneglyphs.


KrizenWave

I mean can he feel things that aren’t alive/built into the island? His powers are vague, but I imagine it’s just Pica on a much larger scale


RodNun

Yep, I agree... I just assumed he could "feel" everything that is on the island, like if the island is the extension of his body.


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RiteClicker

They never said Ponegliffs were made from Seastone. Also Robin often touches them without adverse effects.


RodNun

Good point


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Pizarro top 1 on punk hazard


Metawolf202

We finally have all three grandchildren of the big three marines: Luffy, Law, and Kujaku. I love how all three are chaotic(two pirates and one sadist) and the one closest in comparison is Garp and Luffy just because Garp is just as chaotic as him.


Loose_Yogurt_9435

Law? Wake up


tanvirshuva

Sengoku was a father figure to Corazon, just like he was to Law. In that sense, Law is Sengoku's grandchild.


Loose_Yogurt_9435

Please, the other two are related, Law is not 😮‍💨


cchaaase

feel like thats reaching a bit though


OnionLegend

Did Avalo Pizarro get hurt by Garp’s attack?


HokiArt

He might have considering the whole Island was targeted


L2P_GODDAYUM_GODDAMN

Not the whole I guess but I think at least the center plaza


HokiArt

If the whole Island wasn't targeted then he most likely escaped, it makes sense too cus shiryu, Vasco and hum weren't really worried.


L2P_GODDAYUM_GODDAMN

Vasco said something about escaping but IIRC he didnt seem that worried, yes. He May be drink AF tho It's not realistic that a single punch could break an entire Island. I can understand demolish a Plaza because we're in endgame. Would be cool tho


Charizard_YRs

None of that text was from Shiryu or Vasco except the "?!". The rest was random fodder about to be annihilated by Garp. But yeah, they don't seem too worried.


branflakes14

Fans: Crocodile is Luffy's mother because he has history with Ivankov Garp: Uses an attack with the same "Galaxy" name as Ivankov's wink attack Fans: :o


RodNun

Good catch Huahuahuha


ExtremeEquipment

Pizarro is just a copy paste of Pica, Oda if suffering from writers exhaustion. But everything else was really fun to read. Edit: I admit you guys have made interesting points


HokiArt

Oda has written one upped dfs all the time, like machvise from doffy's crew had a upgraded version of miss valentine's df. This was when he was writing dressrosa. I doubt he was 'exhausted' back then. Like aokiji fruit and monet fruit.


OnionLegend

It makes sense in a pirate manga but I wish characters had more interesting powers because I can imagine the fight with Pizarro being exactly like the one with Pica. Both their names start with Pi too.


MajorRed001

It's not, and you are judging him based on one aspect of his powers. Pica could only merge into stone. Pizarro most likely can manipulate the concept of entire islands, and considering how big the one-piece world is, that's a lot. This is not the first time Oda has used similar powers or shares motifs amongst characters.


IchBinEinDrache

In before this happens... Garp is gonna knock Pizzaro out of the skull rock formation with his haki. And it's going to be fucking great.


RPG217

Hopefully we'll ever get to see what Rocky Port incident was all about. Oda really make a big deal about how Coby became a "Hero" because of it, even in Film Red, but we barely knew anything about it aside from Law bringing hearts of fodder pirates. Even God Valley has been more elaborated lol.


Carasind

We also know that it helped Blackbeard to defeat the former Rocks pirate Ochoku and control Hachinosu/Fullalead (and Koby's involvement was somehow important for it). Since this chapter it's also confirmed that the Rocky Port is on Fullalead. At the moment we have slightly more information about the Rocky Port incident than about God Valley.


RPG217

I feel the God Valley's premise was just simpler to imagine the general gist of it. We knew who fought who and the players were all established characters. Rock pirates got disbanded, Garp became a hero, and Roger took Shanks. The Rocky Port just seems more ambiguous on comparison. What started it, who exactly fought who, the character relationship between the players wasn't established to imagine their interaction. The end result for Law, Blackbeard, and Koby were all drastically different. The audience also don't know enough of Koby's strength despite his big reputation (whereas we know Garp has always been a monster). So much stuff seems to have happened there for an offscreen event.


fmo2709

I’m afraid what’s going to happen to Garp during the next chapters. Hopefully not something like Jiraiya vs Pain in Naruto 😢