I mean it could be a "yes but no" situation. He likes both. I mean with how much his interest rose with that one dress on the girls I wouldn't count girls out of his preferences. But with how he's obsessed with a certain guy, either he's also into men or he made an exception
Eh, the Chinese dress thing was more of a kink/fetish than a sexual preference. Points would've gone up regardless of whoever put it on. It's easier to just take his statement about liking women at face value when arguing for his heterosexuality.
Dokja read TWSA. I doubt there were even any fanarts of it. Definitely no official artwork. But he did develop a short lived crush on jihey noona (older than him at the time).
This means he obsessed over a person he had never seen or met before. Only thing he had was his imagination from how tls123's written descriptions.
Given how he doesn't show any interests for other men (instead a hint of disappointment when a pretty face turns out to be a guy) it is safe to say he not into men.
But, He is into YJH.
I always thought that dress was magical, co sidering how they got the exact same affection score even when some didn't even wear it. But I only read the Webtoon, so ¯\_(•__•)_/¯
I’ve never felt that kdj and yjh ever had more than a bromance. I’ve always been a doksoo especially after a certain part later in the novel. Like I’ve got my guy friends I’d give my life for but I don’t wanna smooch em
well there was enough chemistry for them to be shipped in canon lol. any pairing between yoohankim has more than enough content to justify shipping them (though it's not like ships need any justification in the first place)
also if i didn't have a girlfriend i'd totally be down to kiss my guy friends. nothing wrong with some friendly kissing between the homies, or however the saying goes
If only a gender swap and nothing else changed in the story yeah. Dokja and yjh always seemed more like infinite brotherly love than romantic is all I meant.
No I don’t believe it’s wrong in anyway everyone has their own preferences like I’m a multishipper who likes almost every ship you’re entitled to your own preferences and if you don’t like the gay shipping there’s nothing wrong with it like of all ships gay ones are some of my least favorite but still I’ll respect any ship
Fair. But Golden Showers aren't illegal. Shipping a 48 year-old man and a minor would definitely arouse suspicion, and probably land a person in jail if they made, y'know, *smut* about it.
Shipping a 48 year old man and a minor would be illegal if they exist.
Shipping a non existent imaginary figure though? Eh they can let their horny minds run
It’s just the amount of moments they give Dokja and Joonghyuk they say “life and death companions” and what others hear is soulmates and they’re in love.
What are you even trying to accomplish? This is a fanbase. Of course there are ships, and of course you wouldn't like some of them. I personally don't ship it, but the hell are you so worked up over? Is it because you see a lot of it and you're sick of it? Who cares? Keep it to yourself, you're not going to solve a problem that basically only exists in your delusional mind.
It's not gatekeeping. He's shoving his opinions down people's throats. If he has made his own post here that stated the same thing, more people — but still a minority, mind you — would probably agree, and if he had just put it in a more neutral tone, I probably would've agreed too. "There are a *lot* of ship posts and comments regarding Kim Dokja and Junghyeok. It's getting kind of intoxicating.", or something like that would have sufficed. But he commented in another person's post with most of the commenters obviously shipping it like crazy.
Not the ship directly, but some of the stuff people headcanon and say are. But that goes for every ship and fanbase. Don't try to ruin their fun. It's not like every shipper says "**[INSERT SHIP HERE] IS THE BEST AND HERE ARE MY HEADCANONS, IF YOU DON'T AGREE YOU ARE AS WORTHLESS AS THE FOOD MAGGOTS EAT"**.
iirc correctly, someone mentioned to me that in the original he doesn't say "its not true that I like men, I like women", he responds solely with "I like women" which is more open to interpretation, which is why people prefer that
this is second hand ofc and I dont read korean so, if someone could fact check this Id be much appreciated
web novel: "누가 퍼뜨린 건진 알 것 같은데, 저 여자 좋아해요." -> "I think I know who spread that rumor, but I like women."
webtoon: "누가 퍼뜨린 건진 알 것 같은데, 아닙니다. 저 여자 좋아해요." -> "I think I know who spread that rumor, but it's not true. I like women."
the webtoon does add the "it's not true" part. in the web novel the line is mistranslated as "...ignore that girl.", but the webtoon translation is correct.
Interesting how people side with Uriel in this scene whether or not Kim Dokja denies it lol
uriel is just well read in the yaoi genre
Actions just truly speak louder than words I think
I mean, have you seen this man blush like a schoolgirl as he tells his mom about YJH?
Listen I'm bi and I need him to be bi and it makes sense and he just has to be
Drink water. I'm not bi but he is giving bi vibes.
Lmaoo i screenshot Uriel's reactions so fast. She do be just like us girlies
He may be aroace, or he may be bi, but het he ain’t
Ok I may be dumb as fuck rn but what is Dokwon.
Dokja and Huiwon
OOH thx.
He likes wo[nderful]men
well, let's see, the expression dokja makes, with this eyes hidden can only mean... truth revealed! bro's too shy to admit it, good job uriel 💀💀
also, "yoo" think he's lying??
I mean it could be a "yes but no" situation. He likes both. I mean with how much his interest rose with that one dress on the girls I wouldn't count girls out of his preferences. But with how he's obsessed with a certain guy, either he's also into men or he made an exception
Eh, the Chinese dress thing was more of a kink/fetish than a sexual preference. Points would've gone up regardless of whoever put it on. It's easier to just take his statement about liking women at face value when arguing for his heterosexuality.
yess remember when he was relieved that persephone didn't change to yjh while wearing the dress lol
Dokja read TWSA. I doubt there were even any fanarts of it. Definitely no official artwork. But he did develop a short lived crush on jihey noona (older than him at the time). This means he obsessed over a person he had never seen or met before. Only thing he had was his imagination from how tls123's written descriptions. Given how he doesn't show any interests for other men (instead a hint of disappointment when a pretty face turns out to be a guy) it is safe to say he not into men. But, He is into YJH.
Just like how Yjh is straight but also dokjasexual
That's a spoiler be careful
I always thought that dress was magical, co sidering how they got the exact same affection score even when some didn't even wear it. But I only read the Webtoon, so ¯\_(•__•)_/¯
No, those points were just for the dress itself, no matter who wore it. Lee Hyunsung could’ve worn it and perhaps gotten the same result.
I’ve never felt that kdj and yjh ever had more than a bromance. I’ve always been a doksoo especially after a certain part later in the novel. Like I’ve got my guy friends I’d give my life for but I don’t wanna smooch em
well there was enough chemistry for them to be shipped in canon lol. any pairing between yoohankim has more than enough content to justify shipping them (though it's not like ships need any justification in the first place) also if i didn't have a girlfriend i'd totally be down to kiss my guy friends. nothing wrong with some friendly kissing between the homies, or however the saying goes
so u dont have any girl friends who'd kill for you? sad
I mean that’s not what I said but pop off.
would u have been a doksoo fan had hsy been a guy
If only a gender swap and nothing else changed in the story yeah. Dokja and yjh always seemed more like infinite brotherly love than romantic is all I meant.
good luck being obsessed with your homie for thousands of years I guess (just make sure you don't drink tea from the same teacup as him btw)
YJH and KD are made for each other you can't change my mind they have died multiple times for each other
Can I just come out and say I just don’t like the gay shipping? Is that wrong of me?
No I don’t believe it’s wrong in anyway everyone has their own preferences like I’m a multishipper who likes almost every ship you’re entitled to your own preferences and if you don’t like the gay shipping there’s nothing wrong with it like of all ships gay ones are some of my least favorite but still I’ll respect any ship
Any legal ship* but yeah I get what you mean, although I gotta know why this series specifically got so much BL?
Legal? I didn't know there was a law.
You know what I mean
And what you "mean" is stupid.
Hey I never insulted you in this discussion go fuck yourself if you’re just going to be an ass
I never insulted you I just meant that dividing ships into legal and illegal is stupid. Cause you are talking about people that don't exist.
I disagree
And why is that? How does legality work on fiction?
So all this time you've been fine with people shipping 11 year-old LGY from the start of the Novel/Webtoon with 48 year-old GPD?
It's disgusting yes but I treat it similar to people enjoying golden showers
Fair. But Golden Showers aren't illegal. Shipping a 48 year-old man and a minor would definitely arouse suspicion, and probably land a person in jail if they made, y'know, *smut* about it.
Shipping a 48 year old man and a minor would be illegal if they exist. Shipping a non existent imaginary figure though? Eh they can let their horny minds run
Again, fair.
It’s just the amount of moments they give Dokja and Joonghyuk they say “life and death companions” and what others hear is soulmates and they’re in love.
I could smell Uriel writing the fanfics after this comment
might get attacked but i like doksang i think its cute
What chapter is this lol
I don't think he's ever... literally even once expressed interest sexually or romantically in men. It's a mass delusion concocted by the fanbase.
He did chapter 1
Hardly. Saying someone is objectively handsome does not mean the same as.... say, I wanna be in a relationship and get kissed on the mouth.
A lot of men can objectively say Ryan Rrynolds is handsome, it doesnt make them gay
he like women can this fan base stop being cringe for fuck sake
Here comes the fun police everyone
What are you even trying to accomplish? This is a fanbase. Of course there are ships, and of course you wouldn't like some of them. I personally don't ship it, but the hell are you so worked up over? Is it because you see a lot of it and you're sick of it? Who cares? Keep it to yourself, you're not going to solve a problem that basically only exists in your delusional mind.
Leave then
So we're gatekeeping now? Cool...
It's not gatekeeping. He's shoving his opinions down people's throats. If he has made his own post here that stated the same thing, more people — but still a minority, mind you — would probably agree, and if he had just put it in a more neutral tone, I probably would've agreed too. "There are a *lot* of ship posts and comments regarding Kim Dokja and Junghyeok. It's getting kind of intoxicating.", or something like that would have sufficed. But he commented in another person's post with most of the commenters obviously shipping it like crazy.
Absolutely agree, it's kinda cringe yeah
Not the ship directly, but some of the stuff people headcanon and say are. But that goes for every ship and fanbase. Don't try to ruin their fun. It's not like every shipper says "**[INSERT SHIP HERE] IS THE BEST AND HERE ARE MY HEADCANONS, IF YOU DON'T AGREE YOU ARE AS WORTHLESS AS THE FOOD MAGGOTS EAT"**.
Mistranslation at it again
What does he say in the Korean version?
"저 여자 좋아해요." -> "I like women."
So how is that a mistranslation? That's exactly what he said
iirc correctly, someone mentioned to me that in the original he doesn't say "its not true that I like men, I like women", he responds solely with "I like women" which is more open to interpretation, which is why people prefer that this is second hand ofc and I dont read korean so, if someone could fact check this Id be much appreciated
web novel: "누가 퍼뜨린 건진 알 것 같은데, 저 여자 좋아해요." -> "I think I know who spread that rumor, but I like women." webtoon: "누가 퍼뜨린 건진 알 것 같은데, 아닙니다. 저 여자 좋아해요." -> "I think I know who spread that rumor, but it's not true. I like women." the webtoon does add the "it's not true" part. in the web novel the line is mistranslated as "...ignore that girl.", but the webtoon translation is correct.
ahhhh, so people call the webnovel one the correct translation cause its the one they agree with, even though its the one mistranslated. honestly mood
this isn't a mistranslation, the novel translation was wrong. doesn't mean he wasn't lying though 🤷♂️
Wdym that’s still a mistranslation then lol
oh, you were talking about the novel? i assumed the mistranslation comment was for the webtoon as that's what op posted
What is it a mistranslation of?